The HomeStory Cup VIII champion talks about the future.
Interview has been condensed and edited.
Waxangel: You won your seventh major tournament at HomeStory Cup VIII, but you didn't seem to be excited. What were you thinking when you won?
TaeJa: My games the previous day had ended late, so I was tired from lack of sleep and didn't feel much at that time. All I could think about was going back to the hotel and sleeping. But when I lay down, it hit me that I had won it all and I had trouble going to sleep.
Incontrol made some funny comments about your lack of emotions after winning. Any response to that?
Nothing in particular, but the lack of an audience made it feel like I was playing a regular game. If there was an audience, maybe I would have done something special?
Does that mean you and Nazgul are going to work on ceremonies for the next two weeks?
If there's a fun idea, then sure. If I win a game, I think it's possible.
You said that you had lost interest in the game for a period, and even thought about retiring. What made you think that way?
My health has gotten worse again lately, my wrists and just overall I don't feel that great. I think it's because I haven't had time to rest lately.
Recently, a lot of players have retired and a teams have disbanded, and it felt like the StarCraft 2 scene was shrinking. Naturally, it made me think about my future, and I was conflicted on the inside.
Combined, it made it hard for me to focus on the game.
Is there any field you've thought of going into in particular? Or something you're interested in?
When I was in high school, I was thinking of becoming a social studies teacher if I didn't make it as a pro-gamer. I read books on social studies and history since an early age, and I really liked those subjects. They were the subjects I got the best grades on in school as well.
Has winning HomeStory given you new motivation?
I'm not sure yet. I'll have to talk about it with my family when I return home.
Is the game still fun for you?
The game is always fun.
Have you talked to other progamers about your future? What kind of advice have they given you?
I talked to Symbol at HomeStory Cup. He told me "it would be such a shame if someone with your skill retired."
You're still young, even for a pro-gamer. It seems strange that you'd worry about this sort of thing already.
I think that a progamer's future is an unsure thing. Because of that, I think that earning a lot early and leaving early isn't a bad approach.
You made a popular tweet after winning the tournament. Is prize money something that's on your mind a lot?
Yes a gamer has to earn as much as possible when he can. So I always play thinking about the prize money.
Are you confident in your play lately? What did you think of the DreamHack group you got with many strong Terrans?
I'm not that confident lately, and I think I got the hardest group at DreamHack. I'm very lacking in TvT confidence these days, while I'm most confident against Zerg.
If I manage to make it through the group stage in the top two spots, I think my chance of winning the tournament is around 50%.
You're at the new TL-HQ in the Netherlands until DreamHack. How's living there?
It's all good, but I've ended up only eating microwavable Korean food and ramen. I've had so much of it I could throw up. Victor's girlfriend comes over sometimes and makes us dinner. It's really good, and I'm thankful to her.
I haven't had a chance to see the Netherlands, and I don't really plan to. I think I will just keep playing.
How's playing on Europe?
There are some good players, but compared to the Korean ladder it's easy.
Who's good?
For Terran, Happy. Zerg, I don't know. For toss, Elfi, kekekeke.
Any final comments?
Thanks to my fans for cheering for me, and I'll do my best to get good results at my final tournament this year, DreamHack Winter!
You're at the new TL-HQ in the Netherlands until DreamHack. How's living there?
It's all good, but I've ended up only eating microwavable Korean food and ramen. I've had so much of it I could throw up. Victor's girlfriend comes over sometimes and makes us dinner. It's really good, and I'm thankful to her.
I haven't had a chance to see the Netherlands, and I don't really plan to. I think I will just keep playing.
They should really feed him better. No wonder hes kind of feeling unhealthy!
You're at the new TL-HQ in the Netherlands until DreamHack. How's living there?
It's all good, but I've ended up only eating microwavable Korean food and ramen. I've had so much of it I could throw up. Victor's girlfriend comes over sometimes and makes us dinner. It's really good, and I'm thankful to her.
I haven't had a chance to see the Netherlands, and I don't really plan to. I think I will just keep playing.
They should really feed him better. No wonder hes kind of feeling unhealthy!
tbh this interview made me kinda sad. it reminds me a lot of that depressed interview flash gave a couple of months ago.
taeja just seems to be living .... a relatively joyless life atm. he's staying in the netherlands, but doesnt even plan on going outside and seeing the netherlands or europe? come on ...
but maybe this state of latent depression and insecurity is characteristic for the current sc2 scene.
I like his point about leaving gaming early. Ofcourse it is always sad when talented players stop early, but I find it even more sad to have players waste their chance at chasing another career in order to stay in gaming for 2-5 years more. That is one of the things I respect most about Stephano, he had a successful career, but he didn't linger to waste his chance at another career that will most likely be what he does his entire life.
You're at the new TL-HQ in the Netherlands until DreamHack. How's living there?
It's all good, but I've ended up only eating microwavable Korean food and ramen. I've had so much of it I could throw up. Victor's girlfriend comes over sometimes and makes us dinner. It's really good, and I'm thankful to her.
I haven't had a chance to see the Netherlands, and I don't really plan to. I think I will just keep playing.
They should really feed him better. No wonder hes kind of feeling unhealthy!
Eating a balanced and healthy diet is indeed important for your body's health. Not sure that is a problem for TaeJa, though it's generally not a good sign if your food only requires micro-waving ;-).
Don't think you can look past that comment about the lack of an audience. It's something that doesn't really dawn on you as one of 50,000 people watching a stream - but to him it must have just felt like every other game he played that weekend. There was no real reaction from anyone else there, why would there be one from him?
TaeJa please don't retire!!! You even made me switch to Terran in Lings of Liberty!! Truly inspirational play, super consistent throughout his carrer... Just one or two more years, you have the time!
Thanks Wax for the interview, it's always awesome to get insight into the lives of the players.
Hopefully he doesn't quit. He was the first pro player i started following when i got into watching pro sc2. his play has always been spectacular and is one of the best terrans in the world along with being one of the consistent ones. Also its cool that he is such a simple guy, very straight forward.
Hopefully we get one more summer of taeja at least
Based TaeJa I'm happy to hear pros and even korean pros talk about prizemoney and their future overall. Players retiring is always sad for us, but I feel sometimes most of them have no idea what to do with their life and are just riding the tides of prog-aming day after day.
Reading that TaeJa has plans, even vague, for his life is a goof thing to see.
You're at the new TL-HQ in the Netherlands until DreamHack. How's living there?
It's all good, but I've ended up only eating microwavable Korean food and ramen. I've had so much of it I could throw up. Victor's girlfriend comes over sometimes and makes us dinner. It's really good, and I'm thankful to her.
I haven't had a chance to see the Netherlands, and I don't really plan to. I think I will just keep playing.
They should really feed him better. No wonder hes kind of feeling unhealthy!
it's more an issue of him not liking western food
get hotbid to learn how to cook Korean food via youtube. The future of team liquid winning things depends on it!
I need to give Victor my recipe for 'Eggs with stuff in it.' It's quick to make, ridiculously healthy, quite filling and in a pinch you can make a huge batch and freeze/refrigerate it for later consumption. A healthy feeling Taeja would be scary considering how good unhealthy Taeja is.
You're at the new TL-HQ in the Netherlands until DreamHack. How's living there?
It's all good, but I've ended up only eating microwavable Korean food and ramen. I've had so much of it I could throw up. Victor's girlfriend comes over sometimes and makes us dinner. It's really good, and I'm thankful to her.
I haven't had a chance to see the Netherlands, and I don't really plan to. I think I will just keep playing.
They should really feed him better. No wonder hes kind of feeling unhealthy!
it's more an issue of him not liking western food
I imagined going from eating Korean food everyday to eating Northern European food and just shuddered. I might have nightmares tonight.
He's gotta be one of the dullest stars in SC2. Hard to warm to him when he doesn't even want to go out and explore a foreign country, instead staying inside eating microwaved shit. The way he won the final then just sat there cleaning his glasses, without even smiling, was a real downer (saved only by Incontrol's humour).
"The game is always fun." Really? That's why you were thinking of retiring just because the community shrunk a little bit? I doubt these guys really love the game as much as they say they do. They like winning at the game, but I'm not sure they like the game itself.
You're at the new TL-HQ in the Netherlands until DreamHack. How's living there?
It's all good, but I've ended up only eating microwavable Korean food and ramen. I've had so much of it I could throw up. Victor's girlfriend comes over sometimes and makes us dinner. It's really good, and I'm thankful to her.
I haven't had a chance to see the Netherlands, and I don't really plan to. I think I will just keep playing.
They should really feed him better. No wonder hes kind of feeling unhealthy!
On November 19 2013 13:30 lystier wrote: I'm not sure if it's appropriate to state that the prize money is not good enough AFTER you took that money...i won't be happy if i were HSC host.
And doesn't Take operate HsC at a loss too? I mean, I get that the ecosystem of professional SC2 is tough, but he can always decline to go to these "low money" tournaments.
I do not think that Taeja is boring, on the contrary. His game play play is comparable to a barbarian, dual wielding diesel powered drills going trough some peasants. IRL... who cares, I like SC2 for its games, not for seeing some party hard winner.
The fact he could not care less for culture, foreign food just adds to his devotion to the game IMO. (and I am from the Netherlands!)
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote: Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans
Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.
They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.
He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.
I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.
Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.
On November 19 2013 13:23 Scarecrow wrote: He's gotta be one of the dullest stars in SC2. Hard to warm to him when he doesn't even want to go out and explore a foreign country, instead staying inside eating microwaved shit. The way he won the final then just sat there cleaning his glasses, without even smiling, was a real downer (saved only by Incontrol's humour).
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote: Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans
Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.
They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.
He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.
I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.
Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.
sort of agree with you but its kinda antisocial to visit a country so far far far away and you might never visit again and not explore the country a little.
On November 19 2013 13:23 Scarecrow wrote: He's gotta be one of the dullest stars in SC2. Hard to warm to him when he doesn't even want to go out and explore a foreign country, instead staying inside eating microwaved shit. The way he won the final then just sat there cleaning his glasses, without even smiling, was a real downer (saved only by Incontrol's humour).
What did Incontrol say?
He joked around because Teaja was not engaged at all after winning 10.000 $ and making Hyun looking like a Diamond player. He just cleaned his glasses, unplugged his stuff and doesn´t gave a fuck which was way more fun and more entertaining to watch as a huge celebration dance. InControle was the right person at the right place because i found it pretty funny.
A Korean SC2 players gives a standard interview that reveals nothing about his personal life and/or opinions on the game:
"Wow, another terrible interview, why do these guys do nothing but spew platitudes?"
Taeja gives an interview where he talks earnestly about some of the problems/challenges he faces:
"Wow, what a lame person, how can he possibly believe that X and Y are true."
There's also "option c," of being a PartinG/MC style entertainer, but honestly the more of those players there are the less interesting they are as individuals.
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote: Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans
Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.
They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.
He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.
I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.
Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.
How is it disrespectful to Taeja to say he's not an outwardly entertaining personality? That doesn't mean Taeja has to be giddy, it's just a stated opinion based on an observation. Calm the fuck down.
On November 19 2013 15:57 braller wrote: A Korean SC2 players gives a standard interview that reveals nothing about his personal life and/or opinions on the game:
"Wow, another terrible interview, why do these guys do nothing but spew platitudes?"
Taeja gives an interview where he talks earnestly about some of the problems/challenges he faces:
"Wow, what a lame person, how can he possibly believe that X and Y are true."
There's also "option c," of being a PartinG/MC style entertainer, but honestly the more of those players there are the less interesting they are as individuals.
You can respect someone's honesty while disliking their answers. They're not mutually exclusive you know.
On November 19 2013 13:52 Havik_ wrote: "The game is always fun." Really? That's why you were thinking of retiring just because the community shrunk a little bit? I doubt these guys really love the game as much as they say they do. They like winning at the game, but I'm not sure they like the game itself.
I mean TaeJa is probably at the end of his school time atm I guess (he's 18 so he should be finshed already or will be soon) and ofc for everyone in that age there is the big question of "What am I going to do with my life?". You can love the game all you want, but still if we're being realistic here, how much of a future prospect does a life as an SC2 pro really hold? I'm sure he likes the game, but worrying about your future is normal in his age.
On November 19 2013 15:57 braller wrote: A Korean SC2 players gives a standard interview that reveals nothing about his personal life and/or opinions on the game:
"Wow, another terrible interview, why do these guys do nothing but spew platitudes?"
Taeja gives an interview where he talks earnestly about some of the problems/challenges he faces:
"Wow, what a lame person, how can he possibly believe that X and Y are true."
There's also "option c," of being a PartinG/MC style entertainer, but honestly the more of those players there are the less interesting they are as individuals.
You can respect someone's honesty while disliking their answers. They're not mutually exclusive you know.
My point isn't that people are hypocrites (especially because the people who think that interviews are too boring and who are criticizing Taeja aren't necessarily the same), it's that "Koreans need to show more personality if they want more fans" is a more problematic statement than a lot of people seem to realize.
On November 19 2013 13:23 Scarecrow wrote: He's gotta be one of the dullest stars in SC2. Hard to warm to him when he doesn't even want to go out and explore a foreign country, instead staying inside eating microwaved shit. The way he won the final then just sat there cleaning his glasses, without even smiling, was a real downer (saved only by Incontrol's humour).
Well you're going too far but truth be told I'm surprised non-korean food is so much of an issue and that he is so indifferent about places he travels that he doesn't bother to make a trip while living in a place.
On November 19 2013 15:57 braller wrote: A Korean SC2 players gives a standard interview that reveals nothing about his personal life and/or opinions on the game:
"Wow, another terrible interview, why do these guys do nothing but spew platitudes?"
Taeja gives an interview where he talks earnestly about some of the problems/challenges he faces:
"Wow, what a lame person, how can he possibly believe that X and Y are true."
There's also "option c," of being a PartinG/MC style entertainer, but honestly the more of those players there are the less interesting they are as individuals.
You can respect someone's honesty while disliking their answers. They're not mutually exclusive you know.
He's just disappointed that nothing except a Parting/MC style interview will enterain the audience. :o
Nothing in particular, but the lack of an audience made it feel like I was playing a regular game. If there was an audience, maybe I would have done something special?
When has he ever done anything special after a win?
On November 19 2013 13:52 Havik_ wrote: "The game is always fun." Really? That's why you were thinking of retiring just because the community shrunk a little bit? I doubt these guys really love the game as much as they say they do. They like winning at the game, but I'm not sure they like the game itself.
Maybe we can assume there are different grades of fun. I mean he didn't say it was superduperultamega fun
You're at the new TL-HQ in the Netherlands until DreamHack. How's living there?
It's all good, but I've ended up only eating microwavable Korean food and ramen. I've had so much of it I could throw up. Victor's girlfriend comes over sometimes and makes us dinner. It's really good, and I'm thankful to her.
I haven't had a chance to see the Netherlands, and I don't really plan to. I think I will just keep playing.
They should really feed him better. No wonder hes kind of feeling unhealthy!
it's more an issue of him not liking western food
What is it with progamers and cooking that don't seem to work?
It's not the first time I see a young pro-gamer who don't seem to eat healthy, and compared to other sports (even chess) pro-gamer's seems to take bad care of themselves in general. Granted, many of them are young, and I can't say I lived in a very healthy way when I was 18-20 years old but I feel that in part it's why you have coaches and people like that around.
On November 19 2013 13:23 Scarecrow wrote: He's gotta be one of the dullest stars in SC2. Hard to warm to him when he doesn't even want to go out and explore a foreign country, instead staying inside eating microwaved shit. The way he won the final then just sat there cleaning his glasses, without even smiling, was a real downer (saved only by Incontrol's humour).
Hes a champion, he stomped Hyun and there was no crowd. Did you expect him to cry tears of joy? Dullest stars? You must be new to SC2.
You're at the new TL-HQ in the Netherlands until DreamHack. How's living there?
It's all good, but I've ended up only eating microwavable Korean food and ramen. I've had so much of it I could throw up. Victor's girlfriend comes over sometimes and makes us dinner. It's really good, and I'm thankful to her.
I haven't had a chance to see the Netherlands, and I don't really plan to. I think I will just keep playing.
They should really feed him better. No wonder hes kind of feeling unhealthy!
it's more an issue of him not liking western food
What is it with progamers and cooking that don't seem to work?
It's not the first time I see a young pro-gamer who don't seem to eat healthy, and compared to other sports (even chess) pro-gamer's seems to take bad care of themselves in general. Granted, many of them are young, and I can't say I lived in a very healthy way when I was 18-20 years old but I feel that in part it's why you have coaches and people like that around.
Hey hey, it is a little bit inappropriate for a Swede to claim that Korean food is unhealthy... On the other hand, the only thing I know of Swedish food comes from Ikea...
On November 19 2013 13:23 Scarecrow wrote: He's gotta be one of the dullest stars in SC2. Hard to warm to him when he doesn't even want to go out and explore a foreign country, instead staying inside eating microwaved shit. The way he won the final then just sat there cleaning his glasses, without even smiling, was a real downer (saved only by Incontrol's humour).
Hes a champion, he stomped Hyun and there was no crowd. Did you expect him to cry tears of joy? Dullest stars? You must be new to SC2.
How about a cheer to his incredible performance and another 10 000$ on his bank account? Also considering his series against Symbol was relatively close, a little bit of relief?
On November 19 2013 13:52 Havik_ wrote: "The game is always fun." Really? That's why you were thinking of retiring just because the community shrunk a little bit? I doubt these guys really love the game as much as they say they do. They like winning at the game, but I'm not sure they like the game itself.
Its always relative to how hard you have to work for it. Do you even have the slightest idea how hard players like Taeja have to work to stay at the very top? Have you ever played ladder for 8 hours on one day? Show some respect ffs
On November 19 2013 15:57 braller wrote: A Korean SC2 players gives a standard interview that reveals nothing about his personal life and/or opinions on the game:
"Wow, another terrible interview, why do these guys do nothing but spew platitudes?"
Taeja gives an interview where he talks earnestly about some of the problems/challenges he faces:
"Wow, what a lame person, how can he possibly believe that X and Y are true."
There's also "option c," of being a PartinG/MC style entertainer, but honestly the more of those players there are the less interesting they are as individuals.
You can respect someone's honesty while disliking their answers. They're not mutually exclusive you know.
My point isn't that people are hypocrites (especially because the people who think that interviews are too boring and who are criticizing Taeja aren't necessarily the same), it's that "Koreans need to show more personality if they want more fans" is a more problematic statement than a lot of people seem to realize.
Fair enough, my mistake. I sorta glance through the pages and felt the overall reception to this was positive, but I guess you were more responding to the boring Korean comment.
It seems a little odd that someone who just won 10.000$ would eat microwave food, i understand that the TL HQ is probably far away from anywhere that makes fresh Korean food, but he could probably have hired a private cook and still have plenty of money left over from HSC.
I have always liked Taeja, and i don't think everyone needs to have a loud personality. But i find it a little hard to understand that a 18 year old who is basically rich, and who has accomplished so much in a short time, isn't more grateful, or just happy.
On November 19 2013 18:57 IvorYchef wrote: I didnt get more Tajea fanboy after this interview... I hate money I have plenty myself ... it doesnt make you happier
A lot of people here complaining about TaeJa's reaction to winning the HSC and how dull he is etc...normally his reactions are decent for a Korean, he smiles/smirks, seems rather happy with his work then goes and claps himself I quite enjoy it. Maybe he just isn't in a great place right now mentally, and that is why he reacted the way he did after the win, I dunno. .
Do people seriously think that Taeja's attitude about money is somehow unique among Korean programers? For most of them, it's how they sustain themselves, not a personal quest for glory. Progamers have very short careers and the majority of them have passed up on the opportunity to get a university education at the regular age, something that has a very negative effect on future earnings.
I feel like Taeja's reactions after winning a tournament are often like in this interview, kinda saying "my wrists are broken, I've lost motivation, things are not going well for me, etc..." while he's just been slaying nerds here and there ez pz. What the hell should happen then if everything's going well for him ?
On November 19 2013 20:57 samurai80 wrote: I feel like Taeja's reactions after winning a tournament are often like in this interview, kinda saying "my wrists are broken, I've lost motivation, things are not going well for me, etc..." while he's just been slaying nerds here and there ez pz. What the hell should happen then if everything's going well for him ?
Be glad that it's the way it is. If everything would be going well for him he would destroy the universe. The Taej is aware of his power ! And I probably need to go to sleep.
Man Taeja, he doesn't seem happy. Please take him out and make some BBQ or something. They are always fine with meat^^. I really don't understand why he isn't enjoying the whole experience a bit more. He even enjoys the game it seems. Jaedong for example looks forward to every new country he can visit but maybe it's because of the age. He should start drinking :D. I hope he finds new motivation and can enjoy his time as a progamer.
This is the problem for some Chinese students where I study as well. They keep eating their own meals and don't explore other cultures. Shame on TaeJa for sticking with Korean food only and not having a walk in the Netherlands.
Hmmm, I don't like the way how it seems that he's depressed.. But as for the fatique was reason - pretty sure it's true..
I mean - even as a stream-viewer was feeling like as if the tourney was held somewhere in the US (despite me being an European and the tourney held in EU)..
Like - day1 - up to 2.45am, then day2 up to 4am or sth crazy like that.. :o The final day was up to 1am or sth, not sure.. Didn't watch finals, rofl.. Was expecting for jjakji to close it out and be a TvT final so didn't bother..
However - I imagine how it must've felt to the players as well - like - having like 90% of their time being idle or playing card-games or sth.. And when they finally get to play - not feeling tired ? - pretty sure it's mission impossible.. Or perhaps partially maybe Taeja's attitude himself - having it seriously and not being able to have fun..
I hope he stays at EU a week more or sth after the DH, just to feel more free to explore more overall..
On November 19 2013 13:52 Havik_ wrote: "The game is always fun." Really? That's why you were thinking of retiring just because the community shrunk a little bit? I doubt these guys really love the game as much as they say they do. They like winning at the game, but I'm not sure they like the game itself.
I'm never sure whether to be exhausted or amused by the constant negativity in this community.
Progamer says he doesn't find the game fun anymore- "Of course he doesn't like it!"
Progamer says he still finds the game fun - "Liar!"
God forbid he might actually still enjoy the game but is making the sensible decision to start thinking about his future.
Taeja strange guy. 0o Can't blame the guy for not wanting to go outside though, there is nothing special to see in the Netherlands. Except after visiting a "Coffee Shop". Then you special things everywhere.
On November 19 2013 21:42 Koshi wrote: Taeja strange guy. 0o Can't blame the guy for not wanting to go outside though, there is nothing special to see in the Netherlands. Except after visiting a "Coffee Shop". Then you special things everywhere.
Who says you only go out to see something special? Simple walk to get some fresh air is good enough, and it may very well cheer you up.
On November 19 2013 21:42 Koshi wrote: Taeja strange guy. 0o Can't blame the guy for not wanting to go outside though, there is nothing special to see in the Netherlands. Except after visiting a "Coffee Shop". Then you special things everywhere.
oh come on, Im pretty sure there are some interesting things you can see in holland. I think it's kinda waste of opportunity :3. But i guess it's Taeja's decision and I can respect that.
On November 19 2013 21:42 Koshi wrote: Taeja strange guy. 0o Can't blame the guy for not wanting to go outside though, there is nothing special to see in the Netherlands. Except after visiting a "Coffee Shop". Then you special things everywhere.
oh come on, Im pretty sure there are some interesting things you can see in holland. I think it's kinda waste of opportunity :3. But i guess it's Taeja's decision and I can respect that.
Utrecht actually, if I recall rightly from Hot_Bid's blog. Still, I'd love to be able to visit Europe someday, and it's a shame he doesn't plan to go exploring.
Good luck Taeja, congratulations! I hope you can find something you like to eat over there!
I doubt the game is "fun" for any serious progamer, regardless of what they say. Nothing you do for 10+ hours a day is "fun". Fun implies a contrast to the ordinary daily grind.
What's gotta be depressing for a player is the shrinking fan and player enthusiasm. A couple years ago there was so much promise. Now reality has hit and the game is just in a slow decline. Ironically, it was Korean participation in events like MLG that killed off the NA scene and a lot of American fan/sponsor interest. The Koreans reaped the short term benefits in prize money, but the people that propped up the sport as a whole eventually walked away and now everyone's screwed.
How come some people are saying that TaeJa is a boring guy? He even said in interview, "all I was dreaming of is to get some sleep". Do you understand what it means? He was exausted after fly and 3-day marathon. How could he smile if he just wanted to go to bed?
Let's see how much exploring you guys do when you travel looks like Korea-US-Korea-US-Netherlands-Germany-Netherlands-Sweden-Korea in a span of six weeks while trying to keep your play up to par because you're playing the biggest tournaments against the best in the world
On November 19 2013 22:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Let's see how much exploring you guys do when you travel looks like Korea-US-Korea-US-Netherlands-Germany-Netherlands-Sweden-Korea in a span of six weeks while trying to keep your play up to par because you're playing the biggest tournaments against the best in the world
Well, he can just browse through all the sights on the internet and later on say to his friends "Oh, xyz? Yes I know that, I've been to the netherlands".
Really depressing interview. There we have the best player on a foreign team, winning assloads of tournaments and still he seems so miserable. He lives in a beautiful, strange country and just keeps practising. He has wrist problems and keeps practising. He thinks of quitting and keeps practising...
Actually looking into further about this interview and his answers. He loves the game so much he just keeps wanting to play. That's a good thing I don't think we will see Taeja quit anytime soon. Yea, Taeja Needs to take a Break for like 2 Weeks and Nazgul you should get him the Wrist Guard things Naniwa has so his Golden Wrists are saved! hahaha
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote: Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans
Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.
They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.
He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.
I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.
Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.
Actually their job is to entertain us. E-sport is entertaiment bisness just like professional football, movies, tv shows.... but question is how they entertain us? With giving great matches? Yeah thats also making entertaiment!
Where money comes? When people are entertaimed they watch it. Companies "buy" exposure to make their products sell better. Sponsoring tournament (asus rog), team (eg), player (twitch)...Esport is same as money.
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote: Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans
Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.
They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.
He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.
I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.
Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.
Actually their job is to entertain us. E-sport is entertaiment bisness just like professional football, movies, tv shows.... but question is how they entertain us? With giving great matches? Yeah thats also making entertaiment!
Where money comes? When people are entertaimed they watch it. Companies "buy" exposure to make their products sell better. Sponsoring tournament (asus rog), team (eg), player (twitch)...Esport is same as money.
This really. It's hard to blame a great player for not being an entertainer, his awesome skill is already entertaining in itself, but this is still a huge plus.
I'm not sure what to think about Taeja's responses. I always see him as a shy, almost-awkward type of person which also reflects on his interviews. I do hope he is having fun amidst all his winnings and travels. What he is doing is something awesome afterall.
On November 20 2013 00:27 bsdaemon wrote: I'm not sure what to think about Taeja's responses. I always see him as a shy, almost-awkward type of person which also reflects on his interviews. I do hope he is having fun amidst all his winnings and travels. What he is doing is something awesome afterall.
I'd be surprised if he enjoys himself. He travels all over the world but for some reason prefers to spend his time sitting inside all the time. He's staying in the Netherlands, for christ's sake. Barely a stone throw from Amsterdam, Brussels, Cologne, Antwerp, Bruges, etc. So much to visit. I get he needs to practice to maintain his current level, but surely he has time to travel around a bit? He's living a life most people can only dream living.
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote: Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans
Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.
They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.
He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.
I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.
Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.
Actually their job is to entertain us. E-sport is entertaiment bisness just like professional football, movies, tv shows.... but question is how they entertain us? With giving great matches? Yeah thats also making entertaiment!
Where money comes? When people are entertaimed they watch it. Companies "buy" exposure to make their products sell better. Sponsoring tournament (asus rog), team (eg), player (twitch)...Esport is same as money.
Its to entertain us its true but they aren't Chimps in Flashy clown outfits. They are respectable humble and nice people that deserve our utmost respect as a person and a extremely talented professional....
On November 20 2013 00:27 bsdaemon wrote: I'm not sure what to think about Taeja's responses. I always see him as a shy, almost-awkward type of person which also reflects on his interviews. I do hope he is having fun amidst all his winnings and travels. What he is doing is something awesome afterall.
I'd be surprised if he enjoys himself. He travels all over the world but for some reason prefers to spend his time sitting inside all the time. He's staying in the Netherlands, for christ's sake. Barely a stone throw from Amsterdam, Brussels, Cologne, Antwerp, Bruges, etc. So much to visit. I get he needs to practice to maintain his current level, but surely he has time to travel around a bit? He's living a life most people can only dream living.
On November 19 2013 22:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Let's see how much exploring you guys do when you travel looks like Korea-US-Korea-US-Netherlands-Germany-Netherlands-Sweden-Korea in a span of six weeks while trying to keep your play up to par because you're playing the biggest tournaments against the best in the world
People should just quote Nazgul until people realise just how tough all that travel is. Its not just any jet lag, it's jet lag upon jet lag upon stress upon high expectations and tons of practise. That's exhausting for anyone and I doubt many would have the energy to explore shit were they in Taeja's position.
yea that on top of winning the whole tournament LOLOLOLOL He's a Boss I would not be able to perform in that situation but I guess thats why he is who he is
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote: Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans
Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.
They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.
He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.
I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.
Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.
Actually their job is to entertain us. E-sport is entertaiment bisness just like professional football, movies, tv shows.... but question is how they entertain us? With giving great matches? Yeah thats also making entertaiment!
Where money comes? When people are entertaimed they watch it. Companies "buy" exposure to make their products sell better. Sponsoring tournament (asus rog), team (eg), player (twitch)...Esport is same as money.
Its to entertain us its true but they aren't Chimps in Flashy clown outfits. They are respectable humble and nice people that deserve our utmost respect as a person and a extremely talented professional....
That's a great way to put. I think it's such a weird criticism too, in most popular sports people always applaud the humble quiet guys and look down on those who make a show about themselves.
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote: Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans
Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.
They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.
He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.
I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.
Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.
Actually their job is to entertain us. E-sport is entertaiment bisness just like professional football, movies, tv shows.... but question is how they entertain us? With giving great matches? Yeah thats also making entertaiment!
Where money comes? When people are entertaimed they watch it. Companies "buy" exposure to make their products sell better. Sponsoring tournament (asus rog), team (eg), player (twitch)...Esport is same as money.
Its to entertain us its true but they aren't Chimps in Flashy clown outfits. They are respectable humble and nice people that deserve our utmost respect as a person and a extremely talented professional....
That's a great way to put. I think it's such a weird criticism too, in most popular sports people always applaud the humble quiet guys and look down on those who make a show about themselves.
Yeah, that's the irony actually.. The more "energetic" sport you're doing in the more people will cheer for you the more "quiet" or at least humble you are.. And vice-versa, though there are not many "quiet" real sports that require people world-wide to know the personality of those who do..
It always blow my mind how unresourceful all those progamers seem to be. How hard is it to learn how to cook basic meals in order to have a balanced diet ? Do they have such a tight schedule that they don't even have time to cook ?
On November 20 2013 01:07 Lylat wrote: It always blow my mind how unresourceful all those progamers seem to be. How hard is it to learn how to cook basic meals in order to have a balanced diet ? Do they have such a tight schedule that they don't even have time to cook ?
They don't have the time or the Brain space to learn it Have to cram in so much SC2 its hard to fit other things <3 More power to them! I know EG is really really good about this as Demuslim always talks about working out good eating habits and how it contributes to a better player.
On November 20 2013 01:07 Lylat wrote: It always blow my mind how unresourceful all those progamers seem to be. How hard is it to learn how to cook basic meals in order to have a balanced diet ? Do they have such a tight schedule that they don't even have time to cook ?
On November 20 2013 01:07 Lylat wrote: It always blow my mind how unresourceful all those progamers seem to be. How hard is it to learn how to cook basic meals in order to have a balanced diet ? Do they have such a tight schedule that they don't even have time to cook ?
I think you just answered your question with another question :D
But really, everyone who has traveled much knows how exhausting it is to travel to another place, especially something as far as Korea-Europe-USA and back. Whenever I am on the plane for half a day, it takes it out of me and I don't feel 100% for a couple of days after that.
It would be so hard to do that AND still expect yourself to play a perfect game at a huge event. Add to that the stress, the nerves... yeah, a lot of us talk about how we wish we could be a pro gamer, but man. Being a pro gamer would suck, in this regard. I have respect for them, and Taeja is no exception.
Symbol seems like such a nice guy. This interview was depressing to me. Seeing a guy be so down when he's having success just bugs me. he sounds picky with food, unwilling to even look for the wonders of netherlands while he's there, even though it's a gorgeous place. Not happy about his wins. I like seeing players who are happy and thankful for wins. Seeing duckdeok cry and smile, or sos pump his fist and jump in the air. Even just a reserved genuine happy smile like symbol does when he wins. Taeja great skills but man personality is a downer.
The way I see it he has no time to enjoy his performance and even then he's not content with it to begin with. He knows that he can play at a higher level, which is encouraging. He's has his priorities in check and his goal is to win a major that's worth a bit more than what he has been making. That's a good mindset to have.
On November 20 2013 03:04 StarStruck wrote: The way I see it he has no time to enjoy his performance and even then he's not content with it to begin with. He knows that he can play at a higher level, which is encouraging. He's has his priorities in check and his goal is to win a major that's worth a bit more than what he has been making. That's a good mindset to have.
i gotta agree somehow. taeja is not satisfied with collecting easy money in small- to mid-size foreign tournaments, he wants to win the really big stuff. contrast that to someone like mc who is happy to grab easy money against inferior opposition whenever possible and then resorts to being an entertainer after he inevitable drops out first round in every tournament with a strong lineup....
On November 19 2013 22:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Let's see how much exploring you guys do when you travel looks like Korea-US-Korea-US-Netherlands-Germany-Netherlands-Sweden-Korea in a span of six weeks while trying to keep your play up to par because you're playing the biggest tournaments against the best in the world
Esports is ruining esports.
We cant get more personality or stories from Taeja because he will not spend time practicing and winning! We want personality in taeja and not some clap-less robot!
On November 19 2013 11:54 MysterySC wrote: Sorry but he's just to boring to bad american teams didn't sign the fun koreans
Really get tired of Americans and Europeans complaining about Koreans not jumping up and down every time they win something like it's American Idol.
They are not monkeys their to entertain you. This is their job, their life line of income on the line. Korean culture is far more respectable in that regard. Taeja is a well mannered fellow and his mind is on the important things in life.
He also said he was dead tired. I seen Taeja show tons of emotion when he played in Korea in the GSL where he feels at home.
I get so upset when I see American/European viewers disrespect Koreans because they are not entertaining them, instead of commenting on their skill.
Hope the best for Taeja, must be hard living in a huge environment change and food change. I don't blame him for not wanting to go out.
Actually their job is to entertain us. E-sport is entertaiment bisness just like professional football, movies, tv shows.... but question is how they entertain us? With giving great matches? Yeah thats also making entertaiment!
Where money comes? When people are entertaimed they watch it. Companies "buy" exposure to make their products sell better. Sponsoring tournament (asus rog), team (eg), player (twitch)...Esport is same as money.
Its to entertain us its true but they aren't Chimps in Flashy clown outfits. They are respectable humble and nice people that deserve our utmost respect as a person and a extremely talented professional....
That's a great way to put. I think it's such a weird criticism too, in most popular sports people always applaud the humble quiet guys and look down on those who make a show about themselves.
Yeah, that's the irony actually.. The more "energetic" sport you're doing in the more people will cheer for you the more "quiet" or at least humble you are.. And vice-versa, though there are not many "quiet" real sports that require people world-wide to know the personality of those who do..
Because fans of sports respect people who are masters of the sport and it's how awesome they are at it that is a joy to watch.
There is a whole other bucketload of retards being retards on reality TV for "personalities".
Taeja just seems like he'd prefer to be home, probably far more comfortable. He's stated in other interviews that he prefers to just practice at home over playing at team houses. There's always going to be fans who find him boring or other Koreans similar to that personality. People like the flamboyant/overt personality as it can be entertaining on another level. Take for example Destiny is a very popular streamer, I don't get it but people enjoy watching his stream. I look at Barry Sanders as a player who is similar in the idea that he didn't really celebrate whenever he scored touchdowns, opting instead to just take the ball over to the ref and go about his business as if that was enough. I don't see why it's such a big deal that he wasn't all that celebratory at HSC when mainly the only people there are actually just players you just competed with. If you've never been apart of a lan tourney that spans over a few days they can be quite taxing.
On November 20 2013 07:15 Incomplet wrote: Taeja just misses Kim Chi. Victor's wife needs to learn how to make Korean food for his underlings.
Well, isn't one of the most interesting points about pro-gaming getting to see different places?
If all their doing is sitting in a room practice, eat, sleep, it is no wonder they either turn into robots or feel bad. If he has no interest in traveling, just pursue other career options and play SC2 at home for fun.
On November 19 2013 22:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Let's see how much exploring you guys do when you travel looks like Korea-US-Korea-US-Netherlands-Germany-Netherlands-Sweden-Korea in a span of six weeks while trying to keep your play up to par because you're playing the biggest tournaments against the best in the world
not to mention the only food you eat is microwavable. That must be pretty tough. No fresh vegetables. No fresh meat.
On November 19 2013 22:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Let's see how much exploring you guys do when you travel looks like Korea-US-Korea-US-Netherlands-Germany-Netherlands-Sweden-Korea in a span of six weeks while trying to keep your play up to par because you're playing the biggest tournaments against the best in the world
not to mention the only food you eat is microwavable. That must be pretty tough. No fresh vegetables. No fresh meat.
No fresh meat? THEY HAVE FRESH MEAT EVERY TIME THEY BOOT UP THE LADDER.
On November 20 2013 07:15 Incomplet wrote: Taeja just misses Kim Chi. Victor's wife needs to learn how to make Korean food for his underlings.
Well, isn't one of the most interesting points about pro-gaming getting to see different places?
If all their doing is sitting in a room practice, eat, sleep, it is no wonder they either turn into robots or feel bad. If he has no interest in traveling, just pursue other career options and play SC2 at home for fun.
It's better to just drop the idea that it is normal to have time and energy to see these different places when you're doing what these guys are doing. The same goes for athletes in other professions it isn't something related to SC2 players. It just doesn't work the way you think it does. When it comes to travel the most valuable experience to me has always been meeting people from all over the world from different cultures.
On November 20 2013 07:15 Incomplet wrote: Taeja just misses Kim Chi. Victor's wife needs to learn how to make Korean food for his underlings.
Well, isn't one of the most interesting points about pro-gaming getting to see different places?
If all their doing is sitting in a room practice, eat, sleep, it is no wonder they either turn into robots or feel bad. If he has no interest in traveling, just pursue other career options and play SC2 at home for fun.
It's better to just drop the idea that it is normal to have time and energy to see these different places when you're doing what these guys are doing. The same goes for athletes in other professions it isn't something related to SC2 players. It just doesn't work the way you think it does. When it comes to travel the most valuable experience to me has always been meeting people from all over the world from different cultures.
You're confused... Being anonymous internet users, we clearly have a better grasp of how a pro-gamers life should optimally lived. Please put us in contact with Taeja and we'll send him a personalized itinerary to maximize his happiness. I don't want to get him too excited, but tell him Thursday will be "Schnitzel day".
On November 20 2013 07:15 Incomplet wrote: Taeja just misses Kim Chi. Victor's wife needs to learn how to make Korean food for his underlings.
Well, isn't one of the most interesting points about pro-gaming getting to see different places?
If all their doing is sitting in a room practice, eat, sleep, it is no wonder they either turn into robots or feel bad. If he has no interest in traveling, just pursue other career options and play SC2 at home for fun.
It's better to just drop the idea that it is normal to have time and energy to see these different places when you're doing what these guys are doing. The same goes for athletes in other professions it isn't something related to SC2 players. It just doesn't work the way you think it does. When it comes to travel the most valuable experience to me has always been meeting people from all over the world from different cultures.
People will hate me for disagreeing with Nazgul, but I think if you have an interest in the world, you make time to see it. After the tournament ofc, so long as there isn't something crucial to be doing the next day or two, you need to wind down and enjoy some "me time" If you don't do that, you're making a vital mistake.
When you make the game your life, you're wasting your time. Making money is cool, but having the freedom to do what you want is the goal isn't it? Money is the basic requirement, not the only reason.
On the other hand, if you don't want to experience the world, then there is no point in doing so.
I was an athlete before an injury ruined my career. I know the importance of preparation, and how traveling wears on a person, but If I didn't take the time to enjoy myself after a tournament, I wouldn't have been an athlete. Even people as serious as I was about the sport need to know when and how to do what you want. It IS normal. And you DO have the time and energy (in many cases).
On November 20 2013 07:25 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: They had some nice Indonesian chicken today. Didn't finish the vegetables though.
let's start a TL manpower threat with dishes somebody *cough* teamowner *cough* could prepare for Taeja so he stays fit and discuss afterwards how Taeja liked it!
On November 20 2013 07:15 Incomplet wrote: Taeja just misses Kim Chi. Victor's wife needs to learn how to make Korean food for his underlings.
Well, isn't one of the most interesting points about pro-gaming getting to see different places?
If all their doing is sitting in a room practice, eat, sleep, it is no wonder they either turn into robots or feel bad. If he has no interest in traveling, just pursue other career options and play SC2 at home for fun.
It's better to just drop the idea that it is normal to have time and energy to see these different places when you're doing what these guys are doing. The same goes for athletes in other professions it isn't something related to SC2 players. It just doesn't work the way you think it does. When it comes to travel the most valuable experience to me has always been meeting people from all over the world from different cultures.
People will hate me for disagreeing with Nazgul, but I think if you have an interest in the world, you make time to see it. After the tournament ofc, so long as there isn't something crucial to be doing the next day or two, you need to wind down and enjoy some "me time" If you don't do that, you're making a vital mistake.
When you make the game your life, you're wasting your time. Making money is cool, but having the freedom to do what you want is the goal isn't it? Money is the basic requirement, not the only reason.
On the other hand, if you don't want to experience the world, then there is no point in doing so.
I was an athlete before an injury ruined my career. I know the importance of preparation, and how traveling wears on a person, but If I didn't take the time to enjoy myself after a tournament, I wouldn't have been an athlete. Even people as serious as I was about the sport need to know when and how to do what you want. It IS normal. And you DO have the time and energy (in many cases).
What happens when you don't have time to see it? It doesn't matter if you are a pro gamer, athlete, entertainer, etc. When the stop is over you pack up your things, travel to the next destination, sound check/rehearse in the space/train/practice and get on with it. There is very little time to enjoy things. When I was a varsity rower it was my life outside of school work. It consumed me. Now that I'm in showbiz it's mostly the same thing. I wouldn't call it wasting time at all because it's part of our goal. Back in my rowing days I wanted to make the Olympic team and that's what we trained towards. You can enjoy that stuff later on in life once you find success. You'll say, "buy you're already there." Yeah, but we have a job to do at the end of the day. They're setting themselves up to be successful man. It isn't just about the prize money, but it helps in negotiating their next contract and staying relevant in the scene. It's good for business. If you are enjoying yourself too much something tells me you aren't placing high enough and your career in the sport might be short-lived. Yeah, being normal is normal and it isn't worth much to be normal. Transcend man.
On November 20 2013 08:37 Shinta) wrote: lol, I can't really bring myself to like any of his responses. Oh well, congratz on the win anyways TaeJa
On November 20 2013 07:48 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On November 20 2013 07:29 testthewest wrote:
On November 20 2013 07:15 Incomplet wrote: Taeja just misses Kim Chi. Victor's wife needs to learn how to make Korean food for his underlings.
Well, isn't one of the most interesting points about pro-gaming getting to see different places?
If all their doing is sitting in a room practice, eat, sleep, it is no wonder they either turn into robots or feel bad. If he has no interest in traveling, just pursue other career options and play SC2 at home for fun.
It's better to just drop the idea that it is normal to have time and energy to see these different places when you're doing what these guys are doing. The same goes for athletes in other professions it isn't something related to SC2 players. It just doesn't work the way you think it does. When it comes to travel the most valuable experience to me has always been meeting people from all over the world from different cultures.
People will hate me for disagreeing with Nazgul, but I think if you have an interest in the world, you make time to see it. After the tournament ofc, so long as there isn't something crucial to be doing the next day or two, you need to wind down and enjoy some "me time" If you don't do that, you're making a vital mistake.
When you make the game your life, you're wasting your time. Making money is cool, but having the freedom to do what you want is the goal isn't it? Money is the basic requirement, not the only reason.
On the other hand, if you don't want to experience the world, then there is no point in doing so.
I was an athlete before an injury ruined my career. I know the importance of preparation, and how traveling wears on a person, but If I didn't take the time to enjoy myself after a tournament, I wouldn't have been an athlete. Even people as serious as I was about the sport need to know when and how to do what you want. It IS normal. And you DO have the time and energy (in many cases).
What happens when you don't have time to see it? It doesn't matter if you are a pro gamer, athlete, entertainer, etc. When the stop is over you pack up your things, travel to the next destination, sound check/rehearse in the space/train/practice and get on with it. There is very little time to enjoy things. When I was a varsity rower it was my life outside of school work. It consumed me. Now that I'm in showbiz it's mostly the same thing. I wouldn't call it wasting time at all because it's part of our goal. Back in my rowing days I wanted to make the Olympic team and that's what we trained towards. You can enjoy that stuff later on in life once you find success. You'll say, "buy you're already there." Yeah, but we have a job to do at the end of the day. They're setting themselves up to be successful man. It isn't just about the prize money, but it helps in negotiating their next contract and staying relevant in the scene. It's good for business. If you are enjoying yourself too much something tells me you aren't placing high enough and your career in the sport might be short-lived. Yeah, being normal is normal and it isn't worth much to be normal. Transcend man.
If you're telling me, that once your competition is done, you don't have 2 days to enjoy yourself before you start your training again, then you're going to end up with a stress related injury or end up burning out for no apparent reason.
Ofc whatever anyone does is their thing, and even though it's not what I would do in some cases, it usually can't be called "wasting time". My point is that people do have time to enjoy themselves. Everyone does. If you don't, then you have bad time management. If you're with a school team or Olympic team, then that's a different story, because you're simply following without any personal choice. That's not the case if you're a pro gamer on Team Liquid, or at least I don't think it should be.
Also, everyone has that time after all is said and done to check off their bucket list. That's not what I'm talking about.
I think the only thing TaeJa did bad in this interview is being too honest. I mean, some people can't stand honesty. They need something, they need TaeJa "The Great". I will do short interview with TaeJa "The Great" right now for you guys who is not entertained enough.
Waxangel: You won your seventh major tournament at HomeStory Cup VIII, but you didn't seem to be excited. What were you thinking when you won?
TaeJa "The Great": I just gather up my energy so I can give all of you guys a blast at Dreamhack. I'm not thinking too much, just winning some throphies as you can see.
Does that mean you and Nazgul are going to work on ceremonies for the next two weeks?
TaeJa "The Great": Yep, sure. We are learning some breakdance now. So next time maybe you'll see me spinning on my own head, just like that.
You said that you had lost interest in the game for a period, and even thought about retiring. What made you think that way?
TaeJa "The Great": I know that some of my fan girls can't live without a drama so I try to be dramatic sometimes and I think I'm pretty good at it. Retiring? For real? Forget it!
You're at the new TL-HQ in the Netherlands until DreamHack. How's living there?
TaeJa "The Great": as you can guess, it's fantastic. Yesterday we got lost at some bar in Amsterdam where hot chick hopped onto my leg. I kissed her and she gave me that look. I wanted to continue at hotel but unfortutately I have to practise Starcraft all the night so I can kill some nerds on next tourney. I just let her do a blow job and then we stopped a taxi. Pretty expensive stuff you know, but as a successful progamer I can certainly afford it.
Who's good? (on Europe ladder)?
TaeJa "The Great": I'm good.
Any final comments?
TaeJa "The Great": That sOs nerd should fall and INNoVatioN is no match for me. I will stomp nerd-lings from my group like roaring thunder makes stray dogs run in a horror and cry. TaeJa "The Great" shall be your new KING!
On November 19 2013 11:09 saltis wrote: Any Toss players are also about to retire or just Terrans and some Zergs ? Please nerf terran more...
... He said he feels least comfortable about TvT and most with TvZ. This has absolutely nothing to do with balance.
just ... dont ... dont even try to argue with such guys they will cry about their race whatever it is are nerfed and THATS the only reason and that their race is the worst (not even caring if they win or lose its just a FACT) so just accept that they are all (cant write what i want without a ban but you guys know what i think about them dont you?) ...
hope he not retires then even more whiners come out of their cellar
On November 20 2013 10:17 StarStruck wrote: Yeah, being normal is normal and it isn't worth much to be normal. Transcend man.
wrong. Being normal is good as long as you are happy. You can be as successfull as you want, if you are not happy your life is worth shit. An honest, good life without fucking others over is worth way more than being the best athlete in the world. if you can't be happy with who you are and need to be the best, there is probably something wrong with you.
out of all the interviews so far, this is one of my favorites. very honest, no beating around the bush… also i can relate to these kind of thoughts. must suck to live in pain for months due to playing and practicing the whole time...
On November 20 2013 10:17 StarStruck wrote: Yeah, being normal is normal and it isn't worth much to be normal. Transcend man.
wrong. Being normal is good as long as you are happy. You can be as successfull as you want, if you are not happy your life is worth shit. An honest, good life without fucking others over is worth way more than being the best athlete in the world. if you can't be happy with who you are and need to be the best, there is probably something wrong with you.
I agree with Taeja. Most player's apm start to dip after they are out of their teens. When you are out of your "prime" or they "figured out your strategy/build" I think players should give it a year, if they can't get back on at least Code S form it is time to retire. Restart your life, continue on from the dream. Whenever you start to sit on the bench more than you are out on the field, it is time to retire.
It is very hard to get a restart on your education after an extended hiatus. Believe me...
To see someone with Taeja's skill and success, on such a stable team, talk like this really shows you just how bad off all the other poor guys are in esports .
I don't know whi his better, people in this thread telling Taeja how to cook and live; or people on the patch thread telling Blizzard how to program their game. Apparently everyone who posts on TL can do everything better than the folks involved with Esports.
On November 20 2013 22:43 TaishiCi wrote: It is very hard to get a restart on your education after an extended hiatus. Believe me...
Why
Maybe because I am restarting my education after 2 years hiatus because of Korean military...
Why would you even ask that? Seems like you are either trying to be a jackass or dim-witted...
I did it after a bigger break than that (three years of working full-time, which I didn't stop doing when I went back to studying). If you are dedicated and intelligent, which I assume Taeja must be to be so goddamn good at Starcraft, it's not so hard.
There is an adjustment period, but it's not a big deal.
On November 20 2013 22:43 TaishiCi wrote: It is very hard to get a restart on your education after an extended hiatus. Believe me...
Why
Maybe because I am restarting my education after 2 years hiatus because of Korean military...
Why would you even ask that? Seems like you are either trying to be a jackass or dim-witted...
I did it after a bigger break than that (three years of working full-time, which I didn't stop doing when I went back to studying). If you are dedicated and intelligent, which I assume Taeja must be to be so goddamn good at Starcraft, it's not so hard.
There is an adjustment period, but it's not a big deal.
It feels like you are implying that I am not dedicated and intelligent. Working isn't the same as being in the military, and Korean military is basically manual labor with cigarettes as compensation... Also, if you are trying to get a REAL degree (actuarial science with finance minor), it is actually difficult as fuck.
Sorry, life-long pro-gammers no matter how smart they are (July with inhuman IQ) have a difficult time getting a good degree and career in Korea. Most that do are almost directly hired by their sponsor companies for marketing ploys. Taeja isn't a "leader" type person to get hired as a coach after retirement or have enough personality to cast. He knows that the clock is ticking and his physical state isn't improving.
On November 21 2013 02:31 Plansix wrote: I don't know whi his better, people in this thread telling Taeja how to cook and live... Apparently everyone who posts on TL can do everything better than the folks involved with Esports.
I'm pretty sure most people can do better than not exploring a foreign country and eating microwaved food all day.
On November 21 2013 02:31 Plansix wrote: I don't know whi his better, people in this thread telling Taeja how to cook and live... Apparently everyone who posts on TL can do everything better than the folks involved with Esports.
I'm pretty sure most people can do better than not exploring a foreign country and eating microwaved food all day.
Those were my thoughts initially too, but considering the fact that he's a top player and he regards his time there to be a business trip for professional training, you can't really fault him for it - especially since whatever he's doing is working.
Still, getting takeout isn't that difficult or time consuming. =P
On November 21 2013 02:31 Plansix wrote: I don't know whi his better, people in this thread telling Taeja how to cook and live... Apparently everyone who posts on TL can do everything better than the folks involved with Esports.
I'm pretty sure most people can do better than not exploring a foreign country and eating microwaved food all day.
Those were my thoughts initially too, but considering the fact that he's a top player and he regards his time there to be a business trip for professional training, you can't really fault him for it - especially since whatever he's doing is working.
Still, getting takeout isn't that difficult or time consuming. =P
Depends on the country and of the food agrees with you. There are several places in the world where I would have trouble eating because I do not react well to spices. Big changes in your diet can kick your ass. People should just like Taeja handle his own diet, rather than being armchair tour guides and food experts. The man can handle his own food.
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