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Startale head coach to step down at end of GSTL - Page 3

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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
November 04 2013 19:34 GMT
#41
On November 05 2013 03:14 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
stinks for Startale. They'll be okay though.

+ Show Spoiler +
especially when Virus comes out of retirement with a vengeance not seen since the Bubonic plague.


oh i remember that guy. when did he retire anyway? he just fell off the face of the earth
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 04 2013 19:48 GMT
#42
On November 05 2013 04:34 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 03:14 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
stinks for Startale. They'll be okay though.

+ Show Spoiler +
especially when Virus comes out of retirement with a vengeance not seen since the Bubonic plague.


oh i remember that guy. when did he retire anyway? he just fell off the face of the earth


Summer of 2011 according to an editor of Liquipedia.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
November 04 2013 20:18 GMT
#43
As waxangel pointed out, I don't think there really has to be a rhyme or reason for his departure.

Nowadays, it's pretty fashionable to retire in Korean SC2. There are just so many players and coaches all bunched up into one market that hit a bubble. Moreover, some people just get old/tired and retire, or they find other opportunities and move on.

GLHF, <3<3 Startale.
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
November 04 2013 21:11 GMT
#44
holy shit no

He seemed really close to all the players and super positive during the matches.... Will ex-ZeNEX HC be in charge now?
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 04 2013 21:12 GMT
#45
Oh wow didnt expect this. St is still perfectly fine though so np
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
November 04 2013 21:32 GMT
#46
This is unfortunate. I'm waiting for the other show to drop as they say in English on this bit of news.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 22:10:28
November 04 2013 21:51 GMT
#47
Leaving of "youngsters" is more of a big-deal and it's a pretty bad thing.. In KR things tend to work differently guys, though I haven't been there a second, think that most people would understand what I mean..

In Western cultures contracts come-and-go, and they're usually only signed either for personality/stream-viewership or after a certain degree of success in a tourney.. In KR I think that there's more the "home-cook-and-chemistry-between-players" thing.. So teams in order to work need to have B-Teamers as well as the big-guns of the "good ol'" days to say the least..

In fact the success of a B-Teamer or lesser-known player over a captain/favorite is the greatest and most common source of hypes and stories..

That's usually where the knowledge of "neutral" people comes from, that's where the publicity takes place, pride gets born, merchandises and sponsorships arrive.., e.t.c.

o.f.c. I might be talking thrash right now ATM cause I don't get a damn thing about business or how it's run or sth..,

Still - the point is - if majority of the "younger" players from a team disband in such a short time - that might at least mean that the team owner has other plans for the team, or at least not plan further investing in the current business/maintenance program of the team.. The sign of the head-coach leaving is also something for a concern as well for a team-wealth and/or stability, in fact it can just mean confirmation that things haven't gone well for some time already..

So - really hope that those who really tried hard but never got the actual place of a starter in the team find their chance to prove themselves..

And it's not like - ahh, those are mostly the ZeNex guys that ST picked up.. Well - if we remember correctly Life was a ZeNex player before he went to ST, wasn't he ??

Still - B-teamers are always needed for the sake of wealthiness of a future of teams..

Like - take CJ for example (or more precisely talking about Sora for a moment).. The most hype about that team comes from the fact that they have a "new addition" to their team, and it's not a bought one, but rather a carefully-home-cooked player that almost no-one knew about (sorry for those who knew him already), and suddenly he's on the home-pages of articles and tourneys and such things..

Like - that's how a well-in-work team functions, and invests in it's own future.. ST has just "declined" it.. Hope things get settled and get better with the ST team though.. There's quite a bit of history to say the least..
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 04 2013 22:09 GMT
#48
On November 05 2013 06:32 Sumahi wrote:
This is unfortunate. I'm waiting for the other show to drop as they say in English on this bit of news.

The expression would be "other shoe to drop" ^^
jjakji fan
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
November 04 2013 22:16 GMT
#49
On November 05 2013 01:03 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 00:45 Zealously wrote:
On November 05 2013 00:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 04 2013 23:53 DiMano wrote:
Moreover for last 2 months about 10 ST players have retired
What does ''foul-mouthed'' mean here...
Some drama definitely happened to ST.

10!? Now i am seriously confused.

Keep in mind that out of the ten or so that retired, most people probably didnt know half of them

It is actually 8 players:
Hoon
Brain
Balloon
Sparta
Harrier
Sound
SalvatioN
SoN


We shall forever miss Balloon and SoN.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
November 04 2013 23:22 GMT
#50
I think the pickup of Balloon was probably something like "You did well in a qualifier, we'll support you for half a year in our house, then we'll renegotiate."
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
November 05 2013 00:47 GMT
#51
On November 05 2013 04:31 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 03:01 Fusilero wrote:
On November 05 2013 01:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 05 2013 01:03 DiMano wrote:
On November 05 2013 00:45 Zealously wrote:
On November 05 2013 00:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 04 2013 23:53 DiMano wrote:
Moreover for last 2 months about 10 ST players have retired
What does ''foul-mouthed'' mean here...
Some drama definitely happened to ST.

10!? Now i am seriously confused.

Keep in mind that out of the ten or so that retired, most people probably didnt know half of them

It is actually 7 players:
Hoon
Brain
Balloon
Sparta
Harrier
Sound
SoN

Sound was really the only notable one. The others were pretty much ex-Zenex players who transferred over and never did too much :/

Sparta took nestea out of the GSL. Never forget

i remember that game on antiga where Nestea held off his marine rush with just drones & queens was pretty cool


AKA horrible mismicro by Sparta hahaha
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
November 05 2013 00:52 GMT
#52
On November 05 2013 04:48 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 04:34 fishjie wrote:
On November 05 2013 03:14 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
stinks for Startale. They'll be okay though.

+ Show Spoiler +
especially when Virus comes out of retirement with a vengeance not seen since the Bubonic plague.


oh i remember that guy. when did he retire anyway? he just fell off the face of the earth


Summer of 2011 according to an editor of Liquipedia.


Pretty sure he meant Summer of 2012. I remember he dropped out of Code A in 2012 Season 3 and never tried to requalify after that, and his retirement was announced on the Startale Facebook page in September or so.

He was a GSL staple. This series against boxer was so entertaining (usually didn't go well for him though )
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 05 2013 00:59 GMT
#53
Is this the guy who was in charge of eSF when they blacklisted SlayerS?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 01:10:37
November 05 2013 01:04 GMT
#54
On November 05 2013 09:59 Dodgin wrote:
Is this the guy who was in charge of eSF when they blacklisted SlayerS?

No I don't think so, that was Won Jong Wook.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/StarTale#Organization
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QuantumChaos
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada37 Posts
November 05 2013 02:42 GMT
#55
On November 05 2013 01:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
The others were pretty much ex-Zenex players who transferred over and never did too much :/


People always forget the importance of a good B-team for practice partners.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 05 2013 02:53 GMT
#56
On November 05 2013 11:42 QuantumChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 01:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
The others were pretty much ex-Zenex players who transferred over and never did too much :/


People always forget the importance of a good B-team for practice partners.

Well then sOs and Soulkey should be going to shit, but they're not.
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cythaze
Profile Joined June 2011
830 Posts
November 05 2013 03:02 GMT
#57
Fruitdealer to come back as a sc2 coach plz!
VKCA
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 04:01:22
November 05 2013 04:00 GMT
#58
On November 05 2013 00:45 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 00:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 04 2013 23:53 DiMano wrote:
Moreover for last 2 months about 10 ST players have retired
What does ''foul-mouthed'' mean here...
Some drama definitely happened to ST.

10!? Now i am seriously confused.

Keep in mind that out of the ten or so that retired, most people probably didnt know half of them

half?
more like two
and I'm being generous, only sound was really notable, both sparta and brain were sorta seen a bit but really nobody knew of them.

okay balloon had that one nice code b run but really, is it that surprising?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 05 2013 04:10 GMT
#59
On November 05 2013 09:59 Dodgin wrote:
Is this the guy who was in charge of eSF when they blacklisted SlayerS?


That was Coach Won. Sleazy two-faced bastard he was too, trying to pretend to be a good guy publicly to promote eSports, while trying shut down any team that didn't kiss the eSF's ass.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
holladoub
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada32 Posts
November 05 2013 04:26 GMT
#60
On November 05 2013 01:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 01:05 NeThZOR wrote:
Who will lead them to greatness now?

Probably Life.


bomber will win blizzcon and retire to become the coach
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