Absolutely. I don't understand Korean, but even then I could still see that the season 1's cast absolutely wrecked their counterparts in season 2. Goes to show how much better season 1 was. At this pace Sangmin is almost guaranteed a spot in the final now.
It's also refreshing to see the familiar faces of season 1 again. Kyungran, Yuram, Jungmoon, Changyeop, Sunggyu and Junseok FTW
Absolutely. I don't understand Korean, but even then I could still see that the season 1's cast absolutely wrecked their counterparts in season 2. Goes to show how much better season 1 was. At this pace Sangmin is almost guaranteed a spot in the final now.
It's also refreshing to see the familiar faces of season 1 again. Kyungran, Yuram, Jungmoon, Changyeop, Sunggyu and Junseok FTW
Kyungran was considered one of the 'worse' in season 1 because she destroyed her lovely image by getting angry, bursting out at other people, acting like she knew something when she didn't, etc. But she's been re-evaluated after Season 2.
I also love how Junseok fucked up everyone in Season 1 by going by his own rules at the end, not giving the kill to Sangmin.
I'll also note here: Just watched 7 and 8. While their deathmatches can be easily exploited by the person who has more garnet, that's also part of the player's strategy. On Korean forums, I do understand why people are mad at the casts who knocked out YellOw and why the 8th deathmatch wasn't fair, but those weren't rule breaking at all compared to the complete fuck-up we had in episode 6.
On February 02 2014 20:51 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: Hi guys, not sure if this was asked yet (didnt want to read thru the thread and risk spoilers), but regarding ep8 main match: + Show Spoiler +
The rules say that the winner is the one with the lowest negative number. Couldnt the first person just have taken all the numbers to win? At the end, he would be the only one with a negative number (everyone else would be positive). There is a very small chance he also winds up with a positive number depending on the missing block, but even then technically no one wins.
Lowest negative number, U have to take away the negative sign. Then it all make sense
they kind of explained it weirdly, but basically you wanted the HIGHEST number...basically the closest to zero as possible
I'm confused now.. so does that mean i'm right? The first person could get a -30 and he'd still win because everyone else's score is +9?
Highest integer wins.
9 > -30. Whoever had -30 would lose and everyone else would be co-winners
So the translation of lowest negative number is wrong? Just clarifying.. sometimes it's small things like this that is the "trick" to an episode... In the 2nd to the last ep of season1, when they had to meet all those strangers, I knew what yellow did was the "solution".. He forgot to ask a very easy bonus question though.. "I answered yes to the last question"
I think you are right. The winner of the game has the highest NEGATIVE number (closest to zero). This is repeated two times in the explanation of the game. (specifically @13:20) If the first person buys all the cubes (they are basically free), they would stack up excluding the hidden cube. The only hidden cubes that could destroy this tactic would be a -3,-4,-5 or a -35, since that would make the total positive. It would have been the right choice to buy them all, unless I made a mistake in understanding the rules
Probably the rules not being explained correctly. An answer like this gives too much power to the first person in the auction. I imagine the rule was stated as highest negative number because if the game is actually played out, no one can earn a positive score.
On February 02 2014 20:51 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: Hi guys, not sure if this was asked yet (didnt want to read thru the thread and risk spoilers), but regarding ep8 main match: + Show Spoiler +
The rules say that the winner is the one with the lowest negative number. Couldnt the first person just have taken all the numbers to win? At the end, he would be the only one with a negative number (everyone else would be positive). There is a very small chance he also winds up with a positive number depending on the missing block, but even then technically no one wins.
Lowest negative number, U have to take away the negative sign. Then it all make sense
they kind of explained it weirdly, but basically you wanted the HIGHEST number...basically the closest to zero as possible
I'm confused now.. so does that mean i'm right? The first person could get a -30 and he'd still win because everyone else's score is +9?
Highest integer wins.
9 > -30. Whoever had -30 would lose and everyone else would be co-winners
So the translation of lowest negative number is wrong? Just clarifying.. sometimes it's small things like this that is the "trick" to an episode... In the 2nd to the last ep of season1, when they had to meet all those strangers, I knew what yellow did was the "solution".. He forgot to ask a very easy bonus question though.. "I answered yes to the last question"
I think you are right. The winner of the game has the highest NEGATIVE number (closest to zero). This is repeated two times in the explanation of the game. (specifically @13:20) If the first person buys all the cubes (they are basically free), they would stack up excluding the hidden cube. The only hidden cubes that could destroy this tactic would be a -3,-4,-5 or a -35, since that would make the total positive. It would have been the right choice to buy them all, unless I made a mistake in understanding the rules
Probably the rules not being explained correctly. An answer like this gives too much power to the first person in the auction. I imagine the rule was stated as highest negative number because if the game is actually played out, no one can earn a positive score.
but that's kind of the point of the genius...exploiting the rules. BUT i believe that if the first person took all the numbers that would end with them being the loser (but as i said before it would give them the perfect opportunity to force sangmin to give up his token of immortality since everybody else would be tied for first and theoretically the person who lost could then pick anyone to go to the deathmatch)
meh, I don't really see why this has to do with praising season 1 people vs season 2 people--even though obviously season 2 people have been worse.
it was just a 7 man alliance, but a slight exchange of players at the end so that jiwon & other dude made it through instead of the CEO because of salary stuff.
nothing particularly glorious about it, but at least the season 1 people did (a) read the situation right (b) formulate a plan and (c) succeed with said plan, except for minor details at the end. Still, the game was designed a bit better than the animal chain.
Death match was pretty good. A decent mental war, really about reading your opponent though than just "genius". Which is most of the games should be (either mental/"metagame" wars & some luck, like poker, or raw skill like a balanced memory game or chess or something [the pattern matching game is a bit biased in score keeping since the final award is +3 points compared to +1 per right answer])
anyways, will be boring that sangmin will just auto go to the finals basically, but meh. Wish the token of immortality required more than just the right hint to get the combo at the right time (like a puzzle to get the combo)
to be honest... season 2 was boned to begin with this episode. not only were they hopelessly outnumbered (7-4) but sangmin hit the jackpot and got the director card. the ending was a bit unfortunate for yuram and changyeop not being able to share in the victory but season 2 never really had a chance. great to see yuram and kyungran again
It felt as though Jungmoon played better as a guest than she ever did as a contestant in season 1. One of the highlights of the episode was watching the office couple run away from her the whole time. As a whole the season 1 cast definitely outplayed the newer cast but I'm unsure how much that just came down to pure distribution of the roles. It's hard to tell if the other players actually did nothing or if was just deemed not interesting enough for tv.
On another note I hope that Yohwan learns how to be a team player enough to actually convince people to execute strats, sometime soon or Sangmin stops getting lucky breaks.
I am still at season 1 so can someone tell me if boxer and yellow are still in the game at episode 9 ? (that seems to be the latest one you are talking about)
On February 05 2014 21:36 Tufas wrote: I am still at season 1 so can someone tell me if boxer and yellow are still in the game at episode 9 ? (that seems to be the latest one you are talking about)
On February 05 2014 21:36 Tufas wrote: I am still at season 1 so can someone tell me if boxer and yellow are still in the game at episode 9 ? (that seems to be the latest one you are talking about)
On February 05 2014 21:31 vflux wrote: Does anyone know the song that starts playing in ep8 after sangmin's 3rd throw? Or the "Here we go!" song that's been used a few times now.
If there's a full soundtrack list somewhere that's even better.
Are you referring to Ep7 instead? According to Soundhound, it's "Addicted to Bass Mix 3 (Bonus Continuous Mix)" from the <Addicted to Bass 2009> album.
There's a youtube user who has been compiling playlists of the music used in The Genius, but this song is not among them.
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