BoxeR and YellOw appearing on The Genius season 2! - Page 51

Nice to see the bully pair finally fall. Also hilarious to see Sangmin save BoxeR because he's a free win in the next round. XD

Boxer for the first time made the same move that I thought he should do. I am really impressed with JungHyun. The win over Hongchul was easy but from ep 9 he actually plays really well.

Think Junghyun has played this season very well. Early on pretended to never understand and only win with luck. But winning 3 death matches in a row is pretty sick. He obviously is smarter than he pretended. Hoping for him to go to the finals at least. Made the show interesting after Duhee and Jinho got eliminated.

Also, does anyone else feel like the token of immortality only made the season more boring than it made it exciting? That idea sure backfired. Making Sangmin not a target because of it was pointless was boring.

Boxer has been the biggest disappointment this season. He is literally the most boring participant of all from the start. Everyone else has made the show more fun but him. He hasn't done anything apart from the deathmatch really...

Lastly I wished they would have used EXO instead of Super Junior cause Baekhyun is so cute :3

Man, Junghyun is so clutch

All of boxer's plays reek of not thinking ahead more than one step. They're all the best at that immediate moment but don't leave much room for anything to go wrong. All along he must've known that he and Junghyun couldn't both be winners. I agree with the above poster that Boxer tends to ruin the games by pushing them towards landslide victories or races to the bottom.

Speaking of Junghyun, you could tell that he had some poker experience. He mixed up his plays to be less predictable and didn't making the rookie mistake of needing to be in on every pot. It would've been nice to see some card counting though.

A question for the rest of TL, who do you think will be eliminated next week? My money is on Sangmin.

i think yohwan panicked a little when he thought/felt that junghyun was taking all the points for himself and felt maybe he was too far behind to catch up to take first place

i'm just glad that jinho will be back next episode

Junghyun is a clutch baller. I'm glad that at least this episode was way better than the others.

Also glad that we get to see the revenge of Jinho next episode.

The structure of the game gives too much power to the 3 guests. From the preview, the game looks similar to the rock paper scissor death match whereas the three remaining contestants are the like the 2 death match players.

My guess is Sangmin as well. I can see a pattern emerging: Sangmin + newscaster + former pro-gamer.

About E10, the thing about BoxeR swinging to either extremes is rather disconcerting to watch. Other players could only just watch on jaw-dropped as he single-handedly ruined the gameplay. Shindong's chance at the ₩5m pot was destroyed by BoxeR's destructive and disruptive play, so he was quick to save himself before 3R started by striking up deals with both Sungmin and Kyuhyun to get a share.

Good to see Jinho back for E11, but not sure if it is best for the programme to include eliminated players who look like they wield a certain level of influence over the main match. Last season's 5-v-5 game involving total strangers was a better gauge of the strength of the three remaining players.

I think it might be Sangmin going out too. Junghyun seems to have finally stopped just enjoying a free ride to the finals, and is actually playing to win now, and I think boxer has a decent shot too.

As much as everyone likes to shit on Boxer, his game sense and overall strategy have been pretty solid. Almost every episode he's come up with a pretty good plan to win, it's just his complete lack of understanding of the human element which keeps screwing him, whether it's not even trying to network at all, and getting rolled over by an alliance (like that mineral game) or accounting for betrayal/people playing selfishly and basing his entire strategies on multiple unstable alliances, and inevitably having everything fall apart.

Depending on how the next games work, he could potentially get a lot stronger. I'm not sure what to make of the preview, but last season the last two episodes were very much a test of individual reasoning and logic, with no real chance for networking or betraying, which definitely plays to boxers strengths. However having no garnets is almost definitely going to bite him HARD at some point in the next episode or two.

Junghyun seems really really cool under pressure, which is very important at this point. The main way i see him not making the finals is if Sangmin and Boxer decide to try and kill him off in the semis, because if you just look at the last few episodes, he's definitely been one of the strongest players.

Sangmin just hasn't really done anything in a while, he somehow got himself an aura of invincibility (plus then also picking up the actual invincibility boost), and everyone's just avoided him since then. Unless he gets going again, he's going to be hard pressed next week.

But fk it, Sangmin out next week, boxer wins finals.
ggnore

I think boxer made by far the best play he could have in that situation, I'm almost certain it wasn't a random panic move the shift to sangmin. Lets look at the options available from the outset of the game. Sangmin has the immortality thingy, and has implied he will use it to save boxer if the situation arises.

Now there are four possible winners.
Boxer wins: He's safe.
Sangmin wins: Boxer knows there is a pretty good chance sangmin will save him with the token. Both because the token likely won't be useable in the next episode (as that would be broken as fuck, main game literally pointless) plus Sangmin has indicated he'd save boxer with it if the situation arose, due to boxer helping him find it. So boxer is probably safe.
Jiwon wins: The only way Sangmin could save boxer is by sending himself to the deathmatch, likewise, no matter who picks who, either boxer is going to the deathmatch, or sangmin will use the token to save himself, sending boxer there anyway. Boxer 99% going to deathmatch. (unless sangmin literally kills himself to save boxer.)
Junghyun wins: Same as above, 99% chance of boxer in deathmatch.

So the game starts, and his primary objective is to win, secondary objective is for sangmin to win/the other two to lose. He gets one of the two blue pieces, so decides to try and use junghyun to play for the win. His best shot of acheiving his primary objective, winning, is by teaming up with junghyun and hoping junghyun misplays and lets Boxer win (both of them know that their alliance isn't stable, because only one of them can win, and if one of them does, the other is 99% going to the deathmatch,) so he tries out the alliance, but as soon as it becomes clear that junghyun is going to play it safe and just take all the points, he recognises that his primary objective is impossible, so immediately switches to the secondary one, make sure jiwon and junghyun lose/sangmin wins, which is by far his best chance of survival.

He then ups this chance even more by openly stating to sangmin that he's helping him, adding a bit of guilt tripping to all the other reasons why sangmin should give him the token, and then secures sangmin the win, and himself immunity.

He recognized what options were available to him, tried a low risk/high reward strat in potentially being able to play off of junghyun, then as soon as he saw that it wouldn't work he took the low reward/almost no risk strat and secured himself a place in the semi finals.

Tbh, strategically he played the situation this week by far the best out of anyone. Sangmin didn't need to do anything, he had the token. Jiwon did nothing, and got eliminated for it, and Junghyun tried to play off boxer, but boxer recognised this and reacted properly, sending junghyun to the deathmatch.

If you look past the words people say (which are no indication of their actual plans/skill at all) and look at their actions, this was an episode which boxer controlled the entire way through, entirely to his benefit. Of course it would have been nice to get some garnets (I'm still afraid having 0 is going to get him killed next episode) but once it was clear that junghyun wasn't going to give him anything at all, I fail to see a more optimal, or more reliable play then how he played it out.

Boxer, plz lose

I agree, I think Boxer played this episode out correctly once Junghyun decided to nullify the alliance.

In my opinion people have been way too harsh on Boxer. Most eps he's actually had a solid plan despite some sloppy execution, and in the early eps failure couldn't be helped: Doohee's betrayal in the King's game, Eunkyul's betrayal in blackout, the broadcaster alliance in Monopoly, the bill game, etc.

Boxer is embarassing... No pride. Who plays a game to try to intentionally lose, even if it might be the "best" option at the time. That's like some1 playing scII and intentionally losing in a tournament to get easier opponents through seeding. Sure, it's the best possible option/outcome for the player, but it's fking boring for the viewers, and leaves a bad taste in their mouths.(For those who maybe had to pay to go watch that match/tournmanet live) and for the player's fans too.