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Woongjin Releases 6 Core Players - Page 5

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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 01 2013 11:17 GMT
#81
What stinks is people are going to say "This is really nothing to worry about". StarCraft 2 is going into serious decline and instead of trying to fix the problems, most people are just saying "stop saying StarCraft 2 is dying! its fine!". The community is turning into a US government clone.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
October 01 2013 11:19 GMT
#82
Pretty sure this is going to happen to all the Kespa teams. Clide already tweeted that he's not a KT coach any more just now.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
October 01 2013 11:21 GMT
#83
On October 01 2013 20:17 LongShot27 wrote:
What stinks is people are going to say "This is really nothing to worry about". StarCraft 2 is going into serious decline and instead of trying to fix the problems, most people are just saying "stop saying StarCraft 2 is dying! its fine!". The community is turning into a US government clone.


At this point you have to differentiate between the korean sc2 scene and the foreign scene. I think nobody will disagree with you when you say the korean scene is on a serious decline.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51703 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 11:25:39
October 01 2013 11:21 GMT
#84
Remember that all hope is not lost of some of these players. They are on the waiver wire so other KeSPA teams can pick them up if they want them. However, the catch is though that the team who picked them up have to pay their Woongjin salary amount. I won't be surprised if teams purposely let them go through the 14 day waiver period to negotiate lower salaries.

Sadly though, I do think Free and PianO will retire. Free is really old and has military service to do. PianO got out of the military and was only given another chance because he was a former Woongjin player.
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MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
October 01 2013 11:21 GMT
#85
Woongjin is definitely going bankrupt. They are losing alot of player that actually has a load of potential.I think a disband is imenient its a sad thought but ..... I guess it happens
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 01 2013 11:21 GMT
#86
On October 01 2013 20:19 Conti wrote:
Pretty sure this is going to happen to all the Kespa teams. Clide already tweeted that he's not a KT coach any more just now.


This is the worst news of all. Cliiiiiiiide
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
October 01 2013 11:24 GMT
#87
I can't think of them as Woongin Stars without Zero or free.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
October 01 2013 11:25 GMT
#88
maybe its for the better. switching things up a bit.

their roster was pretty big anyways.
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Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
October 01 2013 11:27 GMT
#89
what a bummer
"See you space cowboy"
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 11:28:46
October 01 2013 11:28 GMT
#90
Free, BravO and, he who used BW queens versus protoss and mech, ZerO!
ㅠ____ㅠ
I can't believe they're really going ahead with this stupid new system with very small teams. Fucking KeSPA/WCS/whatever else is to blame.

EDIT: IM_ZerO please!
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
October 01 2013 11:28 GMT
#91
I actually want more koreans to retire because there are too many players but not enough tournaments.

The korean scene needs to shrink quite a bit,stabilize and then we'll see what we can do to slowly expand it once again(if that's possible).
All I do is Stim.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 01 2013 11:29 GMT
#92
On October 01 2013 20:17 LongShot27 wrote:
What stinks is people are going to say "This is really nothing to worry about". StarCraft 2 is going into serious decline and instead of trying to fix the problems, most people are just saying "stop saying StarCraft 2 is dying! its fine!". The community is turning into a US government clone.


From what point is it declining? Seems to me alot of people are comparing to brood war just because kespa switched to sc2. They came into sc2, not the other way around. You have a scene that is fine. You add 100 players. Some of these players drop off and all of the sudden the scene is dying?
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
October 01 2013 11:32 GMT
#93
releasing zerO is a huge deal. I wonder if we will get some further explanation on why he was released
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
October 01 2013 11:32 GMT
#94
if Im reading correctly from KeSPA site, Hammer (aka Rudy) retires. That leaves Stars with 2 players, 2 B-teamers
But this is also a scheme to re-sign players at lower salary after the "waiver" period
viasacra89
Profile Joined January 2012
United States134 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 11:37:13
October 01 2013 11:35 GMT
#95
Prediction: Woonjin absorbs Prime; MVP and and IM join Kespa. Kespa is once again eight teams.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 01 2013 11:37 GMT
#96
Wtf, zero? Really???
flashimba
Profile Joined May 2011
225 Posts
October 01 2013 11:38 GMT
#97
Everyone is overreacting. There are plenty of teams left that can still hire them.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 01 2013 11:39 GMT
#98
O man hope the korean scene stabilizes :/ imo the future is the eu scene
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 01 2013 11:48 GMT
#99
On October 01 2013 20:17 LongShot27 wrote:
What stinks is people are going to say "This is really nothing to worry about". StarCraft 2 is going into serious decline and instead of trying to fix the problems, most people are just saying "stop saying StarCraft 2 is dying! its fine!". The community is turning into a US government clone.

Well, when kespa joined sc2; player pool got double. You say thats good?


But one thing is sure. Korean sc2 tournaments are in decline. Is this blizzards fault? 3 GSL per year?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
hoemuffin
Profile Joined September 2010
United States72 Posts
October 01 2013 11:49 GMT
#100
Yes, this is the death of SC2. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the title sponsor declared bankruptcy and the CEO on trial for massive financial fraud. Nothing at all.
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