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Woongjin Releases 6 Core Players - Page 6

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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 01 2013 11:49 GMT
#101
Why couldn't you have at least given me one Proleague title?

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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 01 2013 11:52 GMT
#102
On October 01 2013 19:19 aslejoh wrote:
oh my?.. What´s going on?

**Could you please translate the whole text?


Come on guys we all knew every KeSPA team was downsizing from the updated rumor mill and it's fairly obvious when you see a lot of pro gamers state they're retiring.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1923 Posts
October 01 2013 11:59 GMT
#103
Why are ther no huge lans/weekend events in Korea? Those seem to do really well in Europe.

To me, looking ar the pro-league strem numbers, the huge amount of teams and players, and the struggle to find sponsors, it has been obvious that it could not remain that way. Esf and Kespa need to find a way to create excitement for their team leagues, we need drama and stroylines, bad boys and heroes. A "super bowl" between the 2 league winners and inviting more foreign teams would be a good place to start.
Buff the siegetank
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 01 2013 12:02 GMT
#104
And so the KeSPA's plan to transition into LoL went successful with everyone blaming everyone but KeSPA.
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 12:07:44
October 01 2013 12:05 GMT
#105
On October 01 2013 21:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
And so the KeSPA's plan to transition into LoL went successful with everyone blaming everyone but KeSPA.


What would you blame KeSPA for regarding SC2? They abandoned BW, completely transitioned to SC2 and held OSL and ProLeague for it, despite being anything but sustainable.

If you want to "blame" anyone, blame the Korean public, because they just don't like SC2 very much. What can KeSPA do? Pump more money into a bloated scene? Their sponsors want ROI, that's just how the world works...
domisama
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland46 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 12:07:17
October 01 2013 12:06 GMT
#106
On October 01 2013 20:49 hoemuffin wrote:
Yes, this is the death of SC2. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the title sponsor declared bankruptcy and the CEO on trial for massive financial fraud. Nothing at all.

We don't care about your silly facts, SC2 is dying because we say so!

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although, could you maybe provide some proof or a source?
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
October 01 2013 12:09 GMT
#107
Whoa, wtf? Wasn't ZerO their ace from BW?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 01 2013 12:09 GMT
#108
On October 01 2013 21:06 domisama wrote:
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On October 01 2013 20:49 hoemuffin wrote:
Yes, this is the death of SC2. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the title sponsor declared bankruptcy and the CEO on trial for massive financial fraud. Nothing at all.

We don't care about your silly facts, SC2 is dying because we say so!

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although, could you maybe provide some proof or a source?

Slasher provided one some time ago on reddit. And yes, woongjin group was in financial problems, granted i still do not understand why they are left with sOs (who does not even bother to wear uniform at foreign events it seems /sarcasm), Soulkey and essentially C-team, kicking out free, ZerO, Bravo and Aria.
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Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
October 01 2013 12:10 GMT
#109
It's weird that they let Mekia/Impact go because he was being overshadowed by Soulkey and Zero. And now they're like, nah we don't need zero. Would that have been a better pickup had Axiom waited one day?
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
October 01 2013 12:12 GMT
#110
WHAT THE HELL!? ZerO is my favorite player, and brought so many fans to Woongjin (and WTF one of the 6 dragons, how can they just get rid of Free like that?!) . He just made it into Challenger too! >. I can't believe this, I will never forget.

I really hope ZerO finds a good team to join, maybe one day I'll be able to meet him at a foreign event .
VOD finder guy for sc2ratings.com/ ! aka: ogndrahcir, a9azn2 | Go ZerO, Stork, Sea, and KawaiiRice :D | nesc2league.com/forum/index.php | youtube.com/watch?v=oaGtjWL5mZo
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 01 2013 12:14 GMT
#111
On October 01 2013 21:10 Sjokola wrote:
It's weird that they let Mekia/Impact go because he was being overshadowed by Soulkey and Zero. And now they're like, nah we don't need zero. Would that have been a better pickup had Axiom waited one day?

ZerO probably would ask more than Mekia. Also, i suppose Axiom was aware of the fact that Mekia was released from roster and picked him up on the spot.
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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 01 2013 12:18 GMT
#112
Wow, I cna't believe they're just released like that. Especially ZerO and free. Holy shit.
hoemuffin
Profile Joined September 2010
United States72 Posts
October 01 2013 12:19 GMT
#113
On October 01 2013 21:06 domisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 20:49 hoemuffin wrote:
Yes, this is the death of SC2. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the title sponsor declared bankruptcy and the CEO on trial for massive financial fraud. Nothing at all.

We don't care about your silly facts, SC2 is dying because we say so!

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although, could you maybe provide some proof or a source?


http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2013/08/07/0200000000AEN20130807005751315.html

Its been in receivership since I think late 2012? A lot of mid-size Chaebols (like STX) got stomped in the 2008 crisis. Its likely that Woongjin is being sold off in parts, and its also highly likely that the court and creditors would not look kindly on them spending money to support an e-sports team.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1977 Posts
October 01 2013 12:21 GMT
#114
Did they retire or do they change teams?
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 01 2013 12:22 GMT
#115
I find it ironic that 3 years earlier the same thing happened Woongjin removing 6 players at once
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=153705

Anyway it's sad for the players I hope they find new teams and I wish them luck if they decide to retire and move onto something else in life.
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
October 01 2013 12:22 GMT
#116
Hanbin, Aria and Organ are B-team players but ZerO, free, BrAvO aren't. This looks very grim for WJS and an now unlikely participation in PL.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 01 2013 12:24 GMT
#117
To SSL with you!
always good news.
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Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
October 01 2013 12:25 GMT
#118
No ZerO vs Soulkey in WJS... Well that just sucks
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
October 01 2013 12:26 GMT
#119
aria zero bravo and especially free are players with proleague experience so foreign teams should look to get them. Probably will end up sone retired some on esf teams
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 12:27:31
October 01 2013 12:26 GMT
#120
On October 01 2013 21:22 Otolia wrote:
Hanbin, Aria and Organ are B-team players but ZerO, free, BrAvO aren't. This looks very grim for WJS and an now unlikely participation in PL.

Yeah, that seems highly unlikely for 'em to be able to participate in PL with their current roster with 3 B (or even C) teamers and 2 aces. In fact, they may end up being NSHS of PL, should they participate with such a roster. But yeah, i expect at least 3 (or 4) of them to get picked up by some other team. Or retire /
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