Core Gaming is excited to announce the acquisition of Jeon "Dragon" Yong Soo to our pro roster! Dragon is extremely excited to be a part of Core and we are looking forward to giving him all of the tools he needs to reach his potential as a streamer, starcraft personality, and player.
Background: Clarity Gaming management has been extremely helpful with Dragon's transition from Clarity to Core. Milad and I spoke to Mike, the Chief Operating Officer for Clarity Gaming, prior to contacting Dragon and developed amiable terms to make the transition as smooth as possible. Mike formally released Dragon on September 15th, 2013.
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On September 17 2013 01:41 NerdFace wrote: Used to like Dragon but he's a huge noob now and just team hopes and tries to get as much money as possible, zero respect left for him
he's been like this for a long time. don't know why you're suddenly offended.
On September 17 2013 01:41 NerdFace wrote: Used to like Dragon but he's a huge noob now and just team hopes and tries to get as much money as possible, zero respect left for him
On September 17 2013 01:41 NerdFace wrote: Used to like Dragon but he's a huge noob now and just team hopes and tries to get as much money as possible, zero respect left for him
On September 17 2013 02:21 cCav wrote: I'm a bit confused because Dragon is under contract with us until November IIRC.
We spoke to Mike, the Chief Operating Officer for Clarity Gaming, to discuss the situation with Dragon. As an Officer in Clarity Gaming, he formally released Dragon on September 15th, 2013. There does seem to be a few issues regarding this and we hope to get things resolved soon.
On September 17 2013 02:21 cCav wrote: I'm a bit confused because Dragon is under contract with us until November IIRC.
We spoke to Mike, the Chief Operating Officer for Clarity Gaming, to discuss the situation with Dragon. As an Officer in Clarity Gaming, he formally released Dragon on September 15th, 2013. There does seem to be a few issues regarding this and we hope to get things resolved soon.
Considering there was no announcement from Clarity I understand the initial confusion. I do know he (Dragon) went back to Korea recently. Outside of that, good pickup for Core and Yongsoo is a pleasure to work with.
On September 17 2013 02:21 cCav wrote: I'm a bit confused because Dragon is under contract with us until November IIRC.
We spoke to Mike, the Chief Operating Officer for Clarity Gaming, to discuss the situation with Dragon. As an Officer in Clarity Gaming, he formally released Dragon on September 15th, 2013. There does seem to be a few issues regarding this and we hope to get things resolved soon.
Considering there was no announcement from Clarity I understand the initial confusion. I do know he (Dragon) went back to Korea recently. Outside of that, good pickup for Core and Yongsoo is a pleasure to work with.
Lucas, I explicitly told Nancloud last night, and today, that Brandon is the person to break a contract, not Michael. That is the issue at hand.
On September 17 2013 02:21 cCav wrote: I'm a bit confused because Dragon is under contract with us until November IIRC.
We spoke to Mike, the Chief Operating Officer for Clarity Gaming, to discuss the situation with Dragon. As an Officer in Clarity Gaming, he formally released Dragon on September 15th, 2013. There does seem to be a few issues regarding this and we hope to get things resolved soon.
Considering there was no announcement from Clarity I understand the initial confusion. I do know he (Dragon) went back to Korea recently. Outside of that, good pickup for Core and Yongsoo is a pleasure to work with.
Lucas, I explicitly told Nancloud last night, and today, that Brandon is the person to break a contract, not Michael. That is the issue at hand.
Ah I see. I just thought it was weird considering the no announcement thing but I haven't been involved for awhile so I just chalked it up to premature announcementation xD
On September 17 2013 02:21 cCav wrote: I'm a bit confused because Dragon is under contract with us until November IIRC.
We spoke to Mike, the Chief Operating Officer for Clarity Gaming, to discuss the situation with Dragon. As an Officer in Clarity Gaming, he formally released Dragon on September 15th, 2013. There does seem to be a few issues regarding this and we hope to get things resolved soon.
Considering there was no announcement from Clarity I understand the initial confusion. I do know he (Dragon) went back to Korea recently. Outside of that, good pickup for Core and Yongsoo is a pleasure to work with.
It was actually a very confusing situation and the language barrier didn't help. We contacted Mike, the Chief Operating Officer, and Brandon, the Chief Executive Officer. Mike informed us that Brandon was indisposed due to an injury. After speaking to Mike, he formally released Dragon from Clarity. It's an extremely complex situation, since Dragon is now back in Korea and we were speaking to him through a translator. We did our best to assess the situation and go through all the proper legal channels to make sure that everything transitioned smoothly.
Seeing some great things out of Core. This is another solid pickup. Now with a lineup of: JonnnyREcco, Sonic, DeParture, and now Dragon amongst others. What a promising team filled with talent; Look forward to seeing what this team can do.
We are pretty confused because this seems to be a communication issue between Clarity management and not a Core-to-Clarity issue. We look forward to cooperating with Clarity to remedy the situation.
We are pretty confused because this seems to be a communication issue between Clarity management and not a Core-to-Clarity issue. We look forward to cooperating with Clarity to remedy the situation.
Best of luck and glad to see you guys trying to make it work in SC2.
The one thing I don't understand is how anything is supposed to ever progress with these teams and players and stuff. Without knowing the whole situation (I don't and I don't pretend to) it seems to me that Core did a lot (or say they did a lot) to make all of this stuff go through smoothly.
Using their completely open posts as reference, I tend to feel that what was going on was probably in the best interest of all involved.
Similarly, Clarity has been pretty open about their business practices as well.
From my (albeit little) business experience, the COO usually tends to be the guy who makes decisions when the CEO is indisposed for some reason or another. Is this a case of a COO making a decision prematurely? Is it possible that other members of the organization do not know of the responsibilities of the COO?
I'm just curious mostly. I like both organizations for what they've tried to do. I see both as "good guys" and wonder if maybe this is a huge misunderstanding.
Community has it's Pitchforks ready, we now need a target! Who are we going for? The evil masterthieves of Core? Or the unorganised allstars team of Clarity? Or maybe do a FFA?
Alternatively i would suggest a clanwar between the orgas of both teams (make it like 3 1on1 and one 2on2, if it is drawn there must be a vote on TL who should be lynched) Whoever wins gets the dragon and a shitstorm by the community, the loser only gets a shitstorm.
And Core Gaming is back on SC2 drama central. Dear god you guys have a knack for pissing everybody off except the fanboys and members that flood the first two pages of teamliquid.
As always, I HOPE this is a legit team that WILL improve the NA scene, but every time something like this comes around the amout of hope I have for that occuring shrinks a bunch. But that is the goal, improving the NA scene, improving the talent and skill level of NA players and the validity of NA organizations. However, this looks (and continues to look) extremely sketchy in premise all the way down to execution.
I dont believe its fair to point the full blame on Core here. Given someone inside Clarity gave permission for dragon to be released from Clarity. I think this is more of a Clarity Gaming internal conflict of some sorts. Perhaps we should give them time to address the situation and deal with their internal conflicts before putting blame anywhere.
as a casual follower of pro starcraft, i'm just begging any and every team to stop wasting everyone's time with this kind of drama... solve the issue and THEN post an announcement instead of playing public relations and trying to get everyone to sympathize with you and hate the other team. none of this is good for anyone :/
On September 17 2013 02:21 cCav wrote: I'm a bit confused because Dragon is under contract with us until November IIRC.
We spoke to Mike, the Chief Operating Officer for Clarity Gaming, to discuss the situation with Dragon. As an Officer in Clarity Gaming, he formally released Dragon on September 15th, 2013. There does seem to be a few issues regarding this and we hope to get things resolved soon.
and Core Gaming did not have any reason to believe that "Mike" did not have actual authority then principles of "apparent authority" would apply and Core did nothing wrong (legally at least). the fact that "Mike" is apparently a COO (laughable that such a small organization would have one, but whatever) would weigh heavily in favor of finding apparent authority.
I can't stop myself from laughing a bit about teams signing dragon all over again. Its like this guy changes team every 2 months and teams just sign him because his stream is popular and they can have a better TL coverage for a while.
Seriously...You want to hire korean hopes ? Give the community a service and hire new faces such as Miso,Sorry,JuNi,Aria,Speed,BurNing,Mind...Those are actually potential code S champs and are cheap as fuck.
You guys signed dragon? What ever happen to supporting hopeful NA pros? This seems nothing more than a cheap attention grab. Dragon can't even be considered a serious pro gamer.
He in my opinion is in line with Avilo .... Just not really caring about being a TRULY serious contender more interested in giving People entertainment on stream by acting as dumb as they possibly can........ Essentially he is the britney spears of eSports..... all show, no talent......
Pains me to say it but there it is........ I really hope he proves to be more than that for Core but he has yet to put up any real results so I don't know why you guys are fighting over him so hardcore.....
After reddit thread and EVEN thread on TeamLiquid this is just hurting Clarity Gaming. You are acting like 5yo kids. You make this public, what it should help?
Next time: first talk in private and TRY TO SOLVE THINGS.
On September 17 2013 04:10 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: After reddit thread and EVEN thread on TeamLiquid this is just hurting Clarity Gaming. You are acting like 5yo kids. You make this public, what it should help?
Next time: first talk in private and TRY TO SOLVE THINGS.
I don't see this really as an issue unless it devolves down to TaKe vs Genna Bain kinda stuff. It's perfectly fine if they both openly state their positions and then discuss and conclude matters in private.
On September 17 2013 04:10 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: After reddit thread and EVEN thread on TeamLiquid this is just hurting Clarity Gaming. You are acting like 5yo kids. You make this public, what it should help?
Next time: first talk in private and TRY TO SOLVE THINGS.
I don't see this really as an issue unless it devolves down to TaKe vs Genna Bain kinda stuff. It's perfectly fine if they both openly state their positions and then discuss and conclude matters in private.
This looks more like this:
Boy1 steal candy from Boy2. What Boy2 does? He goes straight way to tell somebody else, not ask first that could he give candy back.
On September 17 2013 04:10 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: After reddit thread and EVEN thread on TeamLiquid this is just hurting Clarity Gaming. You are acting like 5yo kids. You make this public, what it should help?
Next time: first talk in private and TRY TO SOLVE THINGS.
I don't see this really as an issue unless it devolves down to TaKe vs Genna Bain kinda stuff. It's perfectly fine if they both openly state their positions and then discuss and conclude matters in private.
This looks more like this:
Boy1 steal candy from Boy2. What Boy2 does? He goes straight way to tell somebody else, not ask first that could he give candy back.
People are going to be wondering why Clarity released Dragon before his contract was up. Clarity needed to make a statement regarding that anyway.
On September 17 2013 04:10 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: After reddit thread and EVEN thread on TeamLiquid this is just hurting Clarity Gaming. You are acting like 5yo kids. You make this public, what it should help?
Next time: first talk in private and TRY TO SOLVE THINGS.
I don't see this really as an issue unless it devolves down to TaKe vs Genna Bain kinda stuff. It's perfectly fine if they both openly state their positions and then discuss and conclude matters in private.
This looks more like this:
Boy1 steal candy from Boy2. What Boy2 does? He goes straight way to tell somebody else, not ask first that could he give candy back.
On September 17 2013 01:15 ETisME wrote: Dragon is pretty much one of the few streamers that is still doing ok-ish viewership number wise. gratz on the pick
Not many people stream SC2 as much as they used to either
Marketing wise this is great for core. I just hope they retain their players like EG or TL and not give up so easily on them. Too bad SC2 is a dying game.
On September 17 2013 01:41 NerdFace wrote: Used to like Dragon but he's a huge noob now and just team hopes and tries to get as much money as possible, zero respect left for him
he's been like this for a long time. don't know why you're suddenly offended.
Yea, Heaven forbid Dragon try to make a living/be happy with himself at the same time. He was clearly upset while at the Clarity house, even going as far as to type out his feelings to the chat. Almost all sc2 progamers have made little to no money in tournaments, etc, but now we are on the honor system I guess?
Where are all the haters?? Gogo Core...as I've said all along, GL to you and take no heed of the elitist fanboys in these forums. Q: Will you be sending Dragon to tournies?
On September 17 2013 01:41 NerdFace wrote: Used to like Dragon but he's a huge noob now and just team hopes and tries to get as much money as possible, zero respect left for him
he's been like this for a long time. don't know why you're suddenly offended.
Yea, Heaven forbid Dragon try to make a living/be happy with himself at the same time. He was clearly upset while at the Clarity house, even going as far as to type out his feelings to the chat. Almost all sc2 progamers have made little to no money in tournaments, etc, but now we are on the honor system I guess?
Quite hypocritical.
What were dragon's issues with clarity that he typed in chat?
On September 17 2013 01:41 NerdFace wrote: Used to like Dragon but he's a huge noob now and just team hopes and tries to get as much money as possible, zero respect left for him
he's been like this for a long time. don't know why you're suddenly offended.
Yea, Heaven forbid Dragon try to make a living/be happy with himself at the same time. He was clearly upset while at the Clarity house, even going as far as to type out his feelings to the chat. Almost all sc2 progamers have made little to no money in tournaments, etc, but now we are on the honor system I guess?
Quite hypocritical.
What were dragon's issues with clarity that he typed in chat?
Probably had to do with internet issues at the Clarity house.
On September 17 2013 01:41 NerdFace wrote: Used to like Dragon but he's a huge noob now and just team hopes and tries to get as much money as possible, zero respect left for him
he's been like this for a long time. don't know why you're suddenly offended.
Yea, Heaven forbid Dragon try to make a living/be happy with himself at the same time. He was clearly upset while at the Clarity house, even going as far as to type out his feelings to the chat. Almost all sc2 progamers have made little to no money in tournaments, etc, but now we are on the honor system I guess?
Quite hypocritical.
What were dragon's issues with clarity that he typed in chat?
Professionalism, or lack of, I should say. He also missed home (who wouldn't)
Professional teams like EG, TL, and ROOT have large financial commitments to players and provide accommodations that truly shape a player's life for the better (team houses, salaries, lots of exposure, etc), which is why they have solid contracts and regulate the actions of their players. For a semi-professional team like Core, our only goal is to make our players happy and provide them with the basic support they need to further themselves.
If one of our players is unhappy and wants to leave, they can leave! For semi-pro teams, I think it's silly to have a contract that forces a player to stay with a group even when they are unhappy, which is why our Core contracts allow players to leave whenever they want. If any of our players want to leave, they can leave, but we have had no one leave yet or even inquire about leaving. I am fully aware that there will be a day when players want to move on and that's great, all the power to them In fact, we will do our best to work with the other organization to make the player's transition as smooth as possible.
It is my responsibility to provide each player with the support they need to remain happy and reach their potential. If I fail to provide that support, then that player is free to pursue any other avenue. In fact, we will support them and encourage them to do so.
Background: Clarity Gaming management has been extremely helpful with Dragon's transition from Clarity to Core. Milad and I spoke to Mike, the Chief Operating Officer for Clarity Gaming, prior to contacting Dragon and developed amiable terms to make the transition as smooth as possible. Mike formally released Dragon on September 15th, 2013.
EDIT: I need to phrase my original message better. This message is currently misleading. Dragon has not officially been released from his contract with Clarity Gaming yet. Therefore, please remove this message.
On September 17 2013 06:20 [Core] Neurotic wrote: Core Players are free to leave at any time.
Professional teams like EG, TL, and ROOT have large financial commitments to players and provide accommodations that truly shape a player's life for the better (team houses, salaries, lots of exposure, etc), which is why they have solid contracts and regulate the actions of their players. For a semi-professional team like Core, our only goal is to make our players happy and provide them with the basic support they need to further themselves.
If one of our players is unhappy and wants to leave, they can leave! For semi-pro teams, I think it's silly to have a contract that forces a player to stay with a group even when they are unhappy, which is why our Core contracts allow players to leave whenever they want. If any of our players want to leave, they can leave, but we have had no one leave yet or even inquire about leaving. I am fully aware that there will be a day when players want to move on and that's great, all the power to them In fact, we will do our best to work with the other organization to make the player's transition as smooth as possible.
It is my responsibility to provide each player with the support they need to remain happy and reach their potential. If I fail to provide that support, then that player is free to pursue any other avenue. In fact, we will support them and encourage them to do so.
Wow this is a really unprofessional post, extremely vague.
On September 17 2013 06:20 [Core] Neurotic wrote: Core Players are free to leave at any time.
Professional teams like EG, TL, and ROOT have large financial commitments to players and provide accommodations that truly shape a player's life for the better (team houses, salaries, lots of exposure, etc), which is why they have solid contracts and regulate the actions of their players. For a semi-professional team like Core, our only goal is to make our players happy and provide them with the basic support they need to further themselves.
If one of our players is unhappy and wants to leave, they can leave! For semi-pro teams, I think it's silly to have a contract that forces a player to stay with a group even when they are unhappy, which is why our Core contracts allow players to leave whenever they want. If any of our players want to leave, they can leave, but we have had no one leave yet or even inquire about leaving. I am fully aware that there will be a day when players want to move on and that's great, all the power to them In fact, we will do our best to work with the other organization to make the player's transition as smooth as possible.
It is my responsibility to provide each player with the support they need to remain happy and reach their potential. If I fail to provide that support, then that player is free to pursue any other avenue. In fact, we will support them and encourage them to do so.
Wow this is a really unprofessional post, extremely vague.
I'm starting to worry for Dragon
yeah this is fucked up.
''so you guys might have contracts with us but its okay if you wanna wipe your buttocks with it, we dont mind. meanwhile heres your paychceck. Get better plz.''
And btw, hiring Dragon doesnt contribute to create/strenghten the professional image/brand you try to shove down our throats every time you open a thread.
On September 17 2013 06:20 [Core] Neurotic wrote: Core Players are free to leave at any time.
Professional teams like EG, TL, and ROOT have large financial commitments to players and provide accommodations that truly shape a player's life for the better (team houses, salaries, lots of exposure, etc), which is why they have solid contracts and regulate the actions of their players. For a semi-professional team like Core, our only goal is to make our players happy and provide them with the basic support they need to further themselves.
If one of our players is unhappy and wants to leave, they can leave! For semi-pro teams, I think it's silly to have a contract that forces a player to stay with a group even when they are unhappy, which is why our Core contracts allow players to leave whenever they want. If any of our players want to leave, they can leave, but we have had no one leave yet or even inquire about leaving. I am fully aware that there will be a day when players want to move on and that's great, all the power to them In fact, we will do our best to work with the other organization to make the player's transition as smooth as possible.
It is my responsibility to provide each player with the support they need to remain happy and reach their potential. If I fail to provide that support, then that player is free to pursue any other avenue. In fact, we will support them and encourage them to do so.
Wow this is a really unprofessional post, extremely vague.
I'm starting to worry for Dragon
yeah this is fucked up.
''so you guys might have contracts with us but its okay if you wanna wipe your buttocks with it, we dont mind. meanwhile heres your paychceck. Get better plz.''
And btw, hiring Dragon doesnt contribute to create/strenghten the professional image/brand you try to shove down our throats every time you open a thread.
Core is a very strange organization. They have 3 sponsor brands that no one has ever heard of or done business with (apparently they are run by core management). They have several management positions that are exaggerated and pompous (security director?).
On September 17 2013 06:20 [Core] Neurotic wrote: Core Players are free to leave at any time.
Professional teams like EG, TL, and ROOT have large financial commitments to players and provide accommodations that truly shape a player's life for the better (team houses, salaries, lots of exposure, etc), which is why they have solid contracts and regulate the actions of their players. For a semi-professional team like Core, our only goal is to make our players happy and provide them with the basic support they need to further themselves.
If one of our players is unhappy and wants to leave, they can leave! For semi-pro teams, I think it's silly to have a contract that forces a player to stay with a group even when they are unhappy, which is why our Core contracts allow players to leave whenever they want. If any of our players want to leave, they can leave, but we have had no one leave yet or even inquire about leaving. I am fully aware that there will be a day when players want to move on and that's great, all the power to them In fact, we will do our best to work with the other organization to make the player's transition as smooth as possible.
It is my responsibility to provide each player with the support they need to remain happy and reach their potential. If I fail to provide that support, then that player is free to pursue any other avenue. In fact, we will support them and encourage them to do so.
Wow this is a really unprofessional post, extremely vague.
I'm starting to worry for Dragon
yeah this is fucked up.
''so you guys might have contracts with us but its okay if you wanna wipe your buttocks with it, we dont mind. meanwhile heres your paychceck. Get better plz.''
And btw, hiring Dragon doesnt contribute to create/strenghten the professional image/brand you try to shove down our throats every time you open a thread.
Core is a very strange organization. They have 3 sponsor brands that no one has ever heard of or done business with (apparently they are run by core management). They have several management positions that are exaggerated and pompous (security director?).
yeah I know that, I browsed the website once. I just try to stay mannered.
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On September 17 2013 06:57 ThePrince wrote: Guys...please I'm begging you. Where is another pitchfork?? I went to the pitchfork store but they said they had run out. In fact they told me there were 1287 people on the waitlist for pitchforks. Anyone PULEEZ got a spare one? I'll give it back I promise. Gosh, I'm thinking Imma start a pitchfork business after this, gonna be a fucking millionairee!!
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