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Drew34000
Profile Joined July 2010
United States7 Posts
October 19 2013 14:48 GMT
#921
Aligulac fixed that recently by giving Koreans a starting rating of "1200" and foreigners a "1000". Vortix is playing the best starcraft of his life, I think a 1/8 chance is accurate.
youngkrazz
Profile Joined October 2013
United States14 Posts
October 19 2013 15:03 GMT
#922
This makes me feel better about Mvp chances. The whole reason I bought a virtual ticket
Becuse he could. He did it because he could.Go Mvp
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
October 19 2013 15:54 GMT
#923
Are these simulations with the WCS NA brackets set?
SooYoung-Noona!
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
October 19 2013 17:00 GMT
#924
it's looking pretty good that the current top 16 will hold. soo, dear and vortix are next in line but they'd have to place top 4 to displace naniwa/revival. of course there's still WCS AM to finish up but half the ro8 have started off with such low point totals that they'd pretty much qualify and then win it all at the season 3 finals
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
October 19 2013 17:09 GMT
#925
O man, who needs a drama series or movie when you got the WCS (Blizzcon) top 16 to worry about. Love it, keeps the interest levels very high!
....
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
October 19 2013 17:44 GMT
#926
On October 20 2013 02:00 asongdotnet wrote:
it's looking pretty good that the current top 16 will hold. soo, dear and vortix are next in line but they'd have to place top 4 to displace naniwa/revival. of course there's still WCS AM to finish up but half the ro8 have started off with such low point totals that they'd pretty much qualify and then win it all at the season 3 finals


Still, the chances add up. For the foreign hope it would be best if Jaedong, MacSed, Polt and Hero win. This could help Naniwa and Vortix (and MacSEd's little chance stays).
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
October 19 2013 18:12 GMT
#927
There seems to be a mistake with the WCS Ro8


Oz starts in the round of 8 in America Premier facing Hack
Oz loses this match 57.844% of the time, which decreases Oz's chances to 2.997%.
Oz wins this match 42.156% of the time, which increases Oz's chances to 21.286%.



Instead of playing Hack, he faces HerO. This should reduce interdependence, Hack and Oz could meet up in the finals, both bringing in more points.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 18:39:30
October 19 2013 18:38 GMT
#928
On October 20 2013 03:12 Ghanburighan wrote:
There seems to be a mistake with the WCS Ro8

Show nested quote +

Oz starts in the round of 8 in America Premier facing Hack
Oz loses this match 57.844% of the time, which decreases Oz's chances to 2.997%.
Oz wins this match 42.156% of the time, which increases Oz's chances to 21.286%.



Instead of playing Hack, he faces HerO. This should reduce interdependence, Hack and Oz could meet up in the finals, both bringing in more points.

The WCS AM ro8 has not been put in yet since they were released late and I didn't get a chance to do it. I just woke up(GSL finals lol) so I'll do it before they start.
The OP right now is actually with random ro8 and Oz vs Hack is from just 1 of the brackets that it used.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
October 19 2013 19:17 GMT
#929
Update posted with GSL completed and WCS AM ro8 brackets set.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Dalnore
Profile Joined May 2013
Russian Federation66 Posts
October 19 2013 19:23 GMT
#930
On October 20 2013 04:17 Die4Ever wrote:
Update posted with GSL completed and WCS AM ro8 brackets set.

I think you have the incorrect GSL finals results where soO is assumed to be the winner. For example, you have the following statement:
-------------------------------------------soO gets 8th place in Season 3 Finals
This happens 25.310% of the time. When it does, it increases soO's chances to 96.157%.

Actually, if soO gets 8th place his chances are zero as he'll be on just 2800 points.
Also, soO chances can't be several times higher than Dear's as they have pretty much the same amount of points (2250 and 2300).
VyingsP
Profile Joined December 2011
France174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 19:24:06
October 19 2013 19:23 GMT
#931
kinda weird, sounds like you used the scenario where soo won the finals ? I'm confused at your numbers

edit : so ninja'd
Corrections of my bad english are much welcome
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
October 19 2013 19:28 GMT
#932
On October 20 2013 04:23 Dalnore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 04:17 Die4Ever wrote:
Update posted with GSL completed and WCS AM ro8 brackets set.

I think you have the incorrect GSL finals results where soO is assumed to be the winner. For example, you have the following statement:
Show nested quote +
-------------------------------------------soO gets 8th place in Season 3 Finals
This happens 25.310% of the time. When it does, it increases soO's chances to 96.157%.

Actually, if soO gets 8th place his chances are zero as he'll be on just 2800 points.
Also, soO chances can't be several times higher than Dear's as they have pretty much the same amount of points (2250 and 2300).

arg, haha running again.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
October 19 2013 19:53 GMT
#933
Ok fixed.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
October 19 2013 20:31 GMT
#934
Everyone ready for Ro8?
Jaedong vs Hack
MacSed vs ByuL
Polt vs Heart
Oz vs HerO
Gonna be fun!
oblivion awaits- dark archon (aka best unit ever)
Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 21:02:59
October 19 2013 21:01 GMT
#935
On October 19 2013 23:13 Sobienski wrote:
I made a maybe easier to read post for people that want to know how is NaNiwa's situation right now.

+ Show Spoiler +
ByuL has 600 points, he can pass NaNiwa if:
    1st place in WCS NA and 2nd place in Season 3 Finals (3600 points)
    6th place in WCS NA and 1st place in Season 3 Finals (3600 points)

Hackhas 700 points, he can pass/tie NaNiwa if:
    1st place in WCS NA and 4th place in Season 3 Finals (3200 points)
    2nd place in WCS NA and 2nd place in Season 3 Finals (3200 points)
    6th place in WCS NA and 1st place in Season 3 Finals (3700 points)

Heart has 750 points, he can pass NaNiwa if:
    1st place in WCS NA and 4th place in Season 3 Finals (3250 points)
    2nd place in WCS NA and 2nd place in Season 3 Finals (3250 points)
    6th place in WCS NA and 1st place in Season 3 Finals (3750 points)

MacSed has 1200 points, he can pass/tie NaNiwa if:
    1st place in WCS NA and 8th place in Season 3 Finals (3200 points)
    2nd place in WCS NA and 4th place in Season 3 Finals (3200 points)
    6th place in WCS NA and 2nd place in Season 3 Finals (3200 points)

Genius has 1300 points, he can pass NaNiwa if:
    1st place in Season 3 Finals (3800 points)

Trap has 1450 points, he can pass NaNiwa if:
    1st place in Season 3 Finals (3950 points)

Oz has 1600 points, he can pass NaNiwa if:
    1st place in WCS NA and 12th place in Season 3 Finals (3350 points)
    4th place in WCS NA and 4th place in Season 3 Finals (3350 points)
    6th place in WCS NA and 2nd place in Season 3 Finals (3600 points)

Vortix has 2150 points, he can pass NaNiwa if:
    2nd place in Season 3 Finals (3650 points)

Dear has 2250 points, he can pass/tie NaNiwa if:
    4th place in Season 3 Finals (3250 points)

soO has 2300 points, he can pass/tie NaNiwa if:
    4th place in Season 3 Finals (3300 points)

Revival has 3175 points, he can tie NaNiwa if:
    2th place in his Group in Challenger League (3200 points)


For today's Ro8 in WCS NA, the best would be for Jaedong > Hack, ByuL > MacSed, Polt > Heart, HerO > Oz, and then Hack and Heart to grab the 5th and 6th place.

Also, a lot of ties are possible, I wonder what Blizzard will do if that happens...


Thank you sir. Very helpful.

On October 19 2013 23:48 Drew34000 wrote:
Aligulac fixed that recently by giving Koreans a starting rating of "1200" and foreigners a "1000". Vortix is playing the best starcraft of his life, I think a 1/8 chance is accurate.


...... Vortix doesn't have a chance. Have you looked at the players that are going to be there?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 19 2013 21:24 GMT
#936
This make the frist game of WCS AM ro8 pretty interesting. Should Hack fall out, Naniwa will have much easier time. Obviously, there are still 2 extra season finals places for grabs for Ro8 losers, but anyway, everyone around the 16th place must be painting rainbow sheeps everywhere.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 22:05:26
October 19 2013 22:05 GMT
#937
So Hack just lost to JD in WCS AM ro8. He now needs to win season finals to go past Naniwa. This is good
hundred thousand krouner
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 19 2013 22:06 GMT
#938
On October 20 2013 07:05 Zheryn wrote:
So Hack just lost to JD in WCS AM ro8. He now needs to win season finals to go past Naniwa. This is good


He needs to get there in the first place ...
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 22:23:51
October 19 2013 22:23 GMT
#939
dat non existing storyline
yo
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
October 19 2013 22:28 GMT
#940
Update posted with Hack vs Jaedong result. Also I made it weighted to show WCS AM events more.
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