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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 16 2013 02:36 GMT
#801
So basically Naniwa is rooting for anyone ranked above him to hoard the points so those ranked below can't pass him. soO, Dear, Oz, etc.?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 16 2013 02:37 GMT
#802
yea pretty much. You don't want a bunch of low pointers making heroic runs at the season finals if you're a Naniwa fan
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
October 16 2013 03:12 GMT
#803
Just realized something really interesting: Revival is at 3175 points while Naniwa is at 3200. Revival currently has 25 points guaranteed for challenger, but if he wins his challenger group stage then he can earn another 25 points, tying with Naniwa. So if 3200 is the points needed for 16th place, we might have a tie breaker match between Revival and Naniwa :o
very illegal and very uncool
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
October 16 2013 03:14 GMT
#804
On October 16 2013 12:12 argonautdice wrote:
Just realized something really interesting: Revival is at 3175 points while Naniwa is at 3200. Revival currently has 25 points guaranteed for challenger, but if he wins his challenger group stage then he can earn another 25 points, tying with Naniwa. So if 3200 is the points needed for 16th place, we might have a tie breaker match between Revival and Naniwa :o

Yep Revival is still in the running. We don't yet know how the tie breakers will be done, but right now it's doing 50/50 odds on the tie breaker of Revival vs Naniwa if it happens.
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
October 16 2013 03:23 GMT
#805
On October 16 2013 12:14 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 12:12 argonautdice wrote:
Just realized something really interesting: Revival is at 3175 points while Naniwa is at 3200. Revival currently has 25 points guaranteed for challenger, but if he wins his challenger group stage then he can earn another 25 points, tying with Naniwa. So if 3200 is the points needed for 16th place, we might have a tie breaker match between Revival and Naniwa :o

Yep Revival is still in the running. We don't yet know how the tie breakers will be done, but right now it's doing 50/50 odds on the tie breaker of Revival vs Naniwa if it happens.

Cool, I'm actually kind of excited if that actually happens. It'd be a duel to the death with everything on the line for that much coveted 16th spot to Blizzcon.
very illegal and very uncool
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
October 16 2013 03:31 GMT
#806
Nooooooo, how is it possible that life has a 0% chance
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 16 2013 03:32 GMT
#807
He unfortunately had a rough year in the main WCS seasons
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doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
October 16 2013 03:33 GMT
#808
On October 16 2013 12:23 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 12:14 Die4Ever wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:12 argonautdice wrote:
Just realized something really interesting: Revival is at 3175 points while Naniwa is at 3200. Revival currently has 25 points guaranteed for challenger, but if he wins his challenger group stage then he can earn another 25 points, tying with Naniwa. So if 3200 is the points needed for 16th place, we might have a tie breaker match between Revival and Naniwa :o

Yep Revival is still in the running. We don't yet know how the tie breakers will be done, but right now it's doing 50/50 odds on the tie breaker of Revival vs Naniwa if it happens.

Cool, I'm actually kind of excited if that actually happens. It'd be a duel to the death with everything on the line for that much coveted 16th spot to Blizzcon.


If Revival ends up taking Naniwas spot to Blizzcon it would really piss me off. IEM for some reason gave a qualifier spot to someone who wasnt even close to qualifying from what I can find. I know there where invites aswell but ForGG forfited a qualifier spot and therefore it should really have gone to someone else imo.

IEM really had no business giving someone free WCS points especially in such a tight situation. Atleast put him in the open bracket. Oh well, we will see what happens I guess it just feels a bit unfair.
Kheve
Profile Joined May 2013
323 Posts
October 16 2013 04:02 GMT
#809
nuuuu scarlett is out -_-.
Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
October 16 2013 04:13 GMT
#810
-------------------------------------------VortiX gets 1st place in Season 3 Finals
This happens 6.010% of the time. When it does, it increases VortiX's chances to 100.000%.

-------------------------------------------VortiX gets 2nd place in Season 3 Finals
This happens 7.174% of the time. When it does, it increases VortiX's chances to 99.999%.


I thought this was kind of comical. The realistic chances of VortiX getting these results are pretty much 0. It must really, really suck to be Naniwa right now. He's so close and can do nothing but watch and pray...
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 16 2013 04:24 GMT
#811
So results of GSL finals don't matter for Naniwa?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 04:40:46
October 16 2013 04:30 GMT
#812
Well I guess technically it would all hinge on how people do in the Season 3 finals but I would think that it would be worse for Naniwa to have Dear win the GSL finals because he has the bigger gap to make up compared to soO in order to pass Nani making it more likely that they could both pass nani with decent results in the season finals. Or will that not even matter based off how points are bracketed for the season finals?


edit
Let me see. If Dear wins the GSL he'll move up to 2250 points (950 less than Nani) and soO will stay at 2300 points (900 less than Nani). This means they would both need Ro4 (grants an additional 1000 on top of the 500 they already earned) finishes to pass him in the standings since the 500 from the season final qualification is already factored in so that's 900/950 additional points

If soO wins the GSL he'll move up to 2800 points (400 less than Nani) and Dear will stay at 1750 (1450 less than Nani). This would mean that soO would need a Ro8 finish and Dear would need to get top 2 for 1500 more points (in addition to the 500 he's already earned for the season finals).

I guess overall it looks like it doesn't matter too much.
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lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
October 16 2013 04:55 GMT
#813
So scarlett is officially out of blizzcon? T_T
Startale forever.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 16 2013 05:06 GMT
#814
unfortunately yes
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 05:42:22
October 16 2013 05:41 GMT
#815
On October 16 2013 12:33 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 12:23 argonautdice wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:14 Die4Ever wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:12 argonautdice wrote:
Just realized something really interesting: Revival is at 3175 points while Naniwa is at 3200. Revival currently has 25 points guaranteed for challenger, but if he wins his challenger group stage then he can earn another 25 points, tying with Naniwa. So if 3200 is the points needed for 16th place, we might have a tie breaker match between Revival and Naniwa :o

Yep Revival is still in the running. We don't yet know how the tie breakers will be done, but right now it's doing 50/50 odds on the tie breaker of Revival vs Naniwa if it happens.

Cool, I'm actually kind of excited if that actually happens. It'd be a duel to the death with everything on the line for that much coveted 16th spot to Blizzcon.


If Revival ends up taking Naniwas spot to Blizzcon it would really piss me off. IEM for some reason gave a qualifier spot to someone who wasnt even close to qualifying from what I can find. I know there where invites aswell but ForGG forfited a qualifier spot and therefore it should really have gone to someone else imo.

IEM really had no business giving someone free WCS points especially in such a tight situation. Atleast put him in the open bracket. Oh well, we will see what happens I guess it just feels a bit unfair.


Revival definitely lucked out with the IEM NY thing, but he did make it to the finals of WCS NA S1 and won IEM Shanghai, both of which are things NaNiwa hasn't achieved this year. Not really fair to say he "wasn't close to qualifying"--definitely been a career year for the Zerg.
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
October 16 2013 05:54 GMT
#816
On October 16 2013 14:41 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 12:33 doffe wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:23 argonautdice wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:14 Die4Ever wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:12 argonautdice wrote:
Just realized something really interesting: Revival is at 3175 points while Naniwa is at 3200. Revival currently has 25 points guaranteed for challenger, but if he wins his challenger group stage then he can earn another 25 points, tying with Naniwa. So if 3200 is the points needed for 16th place, we might have a tie breaker match between Revival and Naniwa :o

Yep Revival is still in the running. We don't yet know how the tie breakers will be done, but right now it's doing 50/50 odds on the tie breaker of Revival vs Naniwa if it happens.

Cool, I'm actually kind of excited if that actually happens. It'd be a duel to the death with everything on the line for that much coveted 16th spot to Blizzcon.


If Revival ends up taking Naniwas spot to Blizzcon it would really piss me off. IEM for some reason gave a qualifier spot to someone who wasnt even close to qualifying from what I can find. I know there where invites aswell but ForGG forfited a qualifier spot and therefore it should really have gone to someone else imo.

IEM really had no business giving someone free WCS points especially in such a tight situation. Atleast put him in the open bracket. Oh well, we will see what happens I guess it just feels a bit unfair.


Revival definitely lucked out with the IEM NY thing, but he did make it to the finals of WCS NA S1 and won IEM Shanghai, both of which are things NaNiwa hasn't achieved this year. Not really fair to say he "wasn't close to qualifying"--definitely been a career year for the Zerg.


I mean not close to qualifying to IEM NY. Im not saying hes not good or has had a good year. My point being only that Naniwa went through a qualifier to get there and he suddenly gets a free spot. Hardly seems fair when so much is on the line. Sure Im very biased cause I so want a non korean at blizzcon.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 05:55:14
October 16 2013 05:54 GMT
#817
On October 16 2013 14:41 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 12:33 doffe wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:23 argonautdice wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:14 Die4Ever wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:12 argonautdice wrote:
Just realized something really interesting: Revival is at 3175 points while Naniwa is at 3200. Revival currently has 25 points guaranteed for challenger, but if he wins his challenger group stage then he can earn another 25 points, tying with Naniwa. So if 3200 is the points needed for 16th place, we might have a tie breaker match between Revival and Naniwa :o

Yep Revival is still in the running. We don't yet know how the tie breakers will be done, but right now it's doing 50/50 odds on the tie breaker of Revival vs Naniwa if it happens.

Cool, I'm actually kind of excited if that actually happens. It'd be a duel to the death with everything on the line for that much coveted 16th spot to Blizzcon.


If Revival ends up taking Naniwas spot to Blizzcon it would really piss me off. IEM for some reason gave a qualifier spot to someone who wasnt even close to qualifying from what I can find. I know there where invites aswell but ForGG forfited a qualifier spot and therefore it should really have gone to someone else imo.

IEM really had no business giving someone free WCS points especially in such a tight situation. Atleast put him in the open bracket. Oh well, we will see what happens I guess it just feels a bit unfair.


Revival definitely lucked out with the IEM NY thing, but he did make it to the finals of WCS NA S1 and won IEM Shanghai, both of which are things NaNiwa hasn't achieved this year. Not really fair to say he "wasn't close to qualifying"--definitely been a career year for the Zerg.

I mean, if he "wasn't close to qualifying" he wouldn't be threatening Nani's spot for Blizzcon lol

ah, clarified
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doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
October 16 2013 05:59 GMT
#818
On October 16 2013 14:54 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 14:41 Yakikorosu wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:33 doffe wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:23 argonautdice wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:14 Die4Ever wrote:
On October 16 2013 12:12 argonautdice wrote:
Just realized something really interesting: Revival is at 3175 points while Naniwa is at 3200. Revival currently has 25 points guaranteed for challenger, but if he wins his challenger group stage then he can earn another 25 points, tying with Naniwa. So if 3200 is the points needed for 16th place, we might have a tie breaker match between Revival and Naniwa :o

Yep Revival is still in the running. We don't yet know how the tie breakers will be done, but right now it's doing 50/50 odds on the tie breaker of Revival vs Naniwa if it happens.

Cool, I'm actually kind of excited if that actually happens. It'd be a duel to the death with everything on the line for that much coveted 16th spot to Blizzcon.


If Revival ends up taking Naniwas spot to Blizzcon it would really piss me off. IEM for some reason gave a qualifier spot to someone who wasnt even close to qualifying from what I can find. I know there where invites aswell but ForGG forfited a qualifier spot and therefore it should really have gone to someone else imo.

IEM really had no business giving someone free WCS points especially in such a tight situation. Atleast put him in the open bracket. Oh well, we will see what happens I guess it just feels a bit unfair.


Revival definitely lucked out with the IEM NY thing, but he did make it to the finals of WCS NA S1 and won IEM Shanghai, both of which are things NaNiwa hasn't achieved this year. Not really fair to say he "wasn't close to qualifying"--definitely been a career year for the Zerg.



I mean, if he "wasn't close to qualifying" he wouldn't be threatening Nani's spot for Blizzcon lol

ah, clarified

Honestly I wouldnt have minded if it atleast was so that groupplay didnt guarantuee points. simply the fact that revival got invited to the group forcedd Nani to get ro4 instead of r08 to pass him.. it was a huge deal and the biggest tourney this whole year on the line. Its a bit much imo
WallieP
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands425 Posts
October 16 2013 06:41 GMT
#819
I hear you all about revival, the eg zerg rigth.. but i dont get that.. he is allready out of CL NA/forfeit right so he cannot pass naniwa anymore?
(http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_America/Challenger#Bracket_Stage)
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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
October 16 2013 06:54 GMT
#820
Looking more closely at the following situations.



-------------------------------------------Dear STX gets 16th place in Season 3 Finals
-------------------------------------------soO gets 8th place in Season 3 Finals
-------------------------------------------Dear STX gets 2nd place in Korea Premier
-------------------------------------------soO gets 1st place in Korea Premier
This happens 6.883% of the time. When it does, it increases soO's chances to 70.898%.

-------------------------------------------soO gets 8th place in Season 3 Finals
-------------------------------------------Maru Prime gets 2nd place in Season 3 Finals
-------------------------------------------HyuN gets 2nd place in America Placement
-------------------------------------------soO gets 1st place in Korea Premier
This happens 0.100% of the time. When it does, it increases soO's chances to 70.302%.



Who is Soo actually competing with? He will be on 3300 points, tied with Duckdeok, passed Naniwa. And it lists results from Maru, Dear and Hyun. So who is he actually competing against? I thought Revival cannot get passed 2300 points.

Is it Vortix?
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