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Maxilicious
Profile Joined May 2011
221 Posts
September 09 2013 04:25 GMT
#261
More BW players to retire, I guess.
http://terrancraft.com/
Canopus
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada27 Posts
September 09 2013 04:26 GMT
#262
You will be missed by many Bisu. It was players like you that showed me how great a game BW really was. Years from now people will look on the careers of these players as the beginning of esports.

Thanks for the memories
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 09 2013 04:27 GMT
#263
On September 09 2013 13:25 riyanme wrote:
Why was it moved? Bisu is currently an SC2 player..... (before his retirement now)

my guess is that Bisu was firmly rooted in BW history and his influence in SCII is very little if negligible >< I will remember his games against roro and shine back to back. He made roro who was the final WoL champion look silly and base trading shine then hiding his colossi and getting the final extractor, he was so happy XD
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
September 09 2013 04:27 GMT
#264
On September 09 2013 13:21 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 11:17 blade55555 wrote:
Not to surprised, he never really seemed to get how to play sc2 protoss very much or have that much success. I don't blame him, I would have retired to can only take so much frustration and having the pressure from fans/etc a good decision.

Sucks bisu could never really transition well like flash/jaedong.


Bisu's playstyle doesn't exist in SC2. It doesn't reward what he's good at.

it's called terran .
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 04:31:23
September 09 2013 04:28 GMT
#265
Bisu was why I am SKT T1, what to do?

Fan since 2007 and he was THE one I cheered for regardless of how he preformed in the OSL.
I'm not sure if I feel sad so much as nostalgia. I had become too discouraged with Protoss in general to follow him much beyond the Hybrid year so this is a bittersweet ending. Maybe we'll see him in SSL yet, but now is when I most miss the military's Ace team.

This too shall pass.

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Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
September 09 2013 04:29 GMT
#266
On September 09 2013 13:24 BigFan wrote:
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On September 09 2013 13:23 larse wrote:
I have no idea how can SC2 make another legend.

If we go off and ignore BW history and consider SCII as a game seperate from BW, then technically mvp would've been considered one. Maybe nestea and mc to a smaller degree. Either way, doesn't matter much to me lol

I don't think any of them were bonjwa status. Everyone have been come and goes. No one held the aura of invincibility for more than a season like they did in BW. Recent examples... like Life, won a GSL, disappeared. Soulkey won a GSL, can't beat innovation anymore. Innovation won WCS, can't repeat. It's hard for fanboys like me to worship players if they can't reach superstardom. Turnover rate too fast...
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
September 09 2013 04:30 GMT
#267
Sad day for BW fans...
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
September 09 2013 04:32 GMT
#268
well, it's funny. I was upset ones, where a thread relevant to BW was only posted in the sc2 forums. Today i wonder why so much relevant information is cut out from there :>
Broodwar for life!
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
September 09 2013 04:32 GMT
#269
His contribution to the BW scene will be remembered. I feel nostalgic, but not sad. I knew Bisu have been struggling with SC2 for awhile and realized that he could never be as great as he was in BW.
MarkusCZ
Profile Joined November 2011
Czech Republic6 Posts
September 09 2013 04:33 GMT
#270
more bad news....
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 09 2013 04:33 GMT
#271
On September 09 2013 13:29 Spec wrote:
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On September 09 2013 13:24 BigFan wrote:
On September 09 2013 13:23 larse wrote:
I have no idea how can SC2 make another legend.

If we go off and ignore BW history and consider SCII as a game seperate from BW, then technically mvp would've been considered one. Maybe nestea and mc to a smaller degree. Either way, doesn't matter much to me lol

I don't think any of them were bonjwa status. Everyone have been come and goes. No one held the aura of invincibility for more than a season like they did in BW. Recent examples... like Life, won a GSL, disappeared. Soulkey won a GSL, can't beat innovation anymore. Innovation won WCS, can't repeat. It's hard for fanboys like me to worship players if they can't reach superstardom. Turnover rate too fast...

ya turnover fast but mvp stood the test of time for quite a while. GSL while is not an OSL, but was seen as the best equivalent in SCII. Life was considered a prodigy but slipped playing LoL and now he can't make it past RO16, new gatekeeper like curious.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
September 09 2013 04:33 GMT
#272
Heartbreaking. Best of luck in whatever you do, Kim Taek Yong!
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 04:36:34
September 09 2013 04:33 GMT
#273
BW BW BW
Flash and JD should retire from SC2, too. It is only a matter of time.
T P Z sagi
Ethoex
Profile Joined June 2012
United States164 Posts
September 09 2013 04:34 GMT
#274
I will miss you bisu
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 04:36:50
September 09 2013 04:34 GMT
#275
On September 09 2013 11:20 sluggaslamoo wrote:
sigh... I'm starting to think SC2 was the worst thing to happen to Starcraft.


It is. The only good thing about SC2 is that it is slowly reinvigourating the BW scene.
T P Z sagi
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
September 09 2013 04:34 GMT
#276
On September 09 2013 13:00 Havik_ wrote:
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On September 09 2013 12:57 larse wrote:
The sad thing is that SC2 can't make another hero like Boxer, Nada, Jaedong, Stork, Flash, and Jangbi.

And I don't know why is that.

SC2 is without legendaries. Weird.



Um... Mvp? People don't want to call him the B word, but I think he's deserving of it.

with 6-7 GSLs a year his 4 badges ain't looking all that legendary.
Michael Probu
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 09 2013 04:37 GMT
#277
On September 09 2013 13:34 purakushi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 11:20 sluggaslamoo wrote:
sigh... I'm starting to think SC2 was the worst thing to happen to Starcraft.


It is. The only good thing about it is that it is slowly reinvigourating the BW scene.


Long ago the two starcraft scenes lived in harmony and peace. Then, everything changed when Blizzard attacked.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
September 09 2013 04:38 GMT
#278
There's only been 4 full GSLs last year though
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
September 09 2013 04:38 GMT
#279
On September 09 2013 13:11 leandroqm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 13:09 forsooth wrote:
On September 09 2013 13:03 jax1492 wrote:
On September 09 2013 13:00 Havik_ wrote:
On September 09 2013 12:57 larse wrote:
The sad thing is that SC2 can't make another hero like Boxer, Nada, Jaedong, Stork, Flash, and Jangbi.

And I don't know why is that.

SC2 is without legendaries. Weird.



Um... Mvp? People don't want to call him the B word, but I think he's deserving of it.


I don't think anyone from sc2 is on the level of the players he mentioned from bw, MVP is good but what has he done lately?

The second part of your post is a non sequitur, since when does a player always have to be dominant to be considered a legend?


Not legend, but bonjwa...

All you people saying Bonjwa. If Jaedong wasn't a bonjwa then there's no way in heaven, hell or on earth that MVP was. JD's dominance was almost total for a year and a half. MVP doesn't even come close to that record. And no one called JD a bonjwa. Flash had to do the extraordinary things he had to do to get it. Maybe you can compare him to the earlier bonjwas who got the label retrospectively, but the bonjwas from Savior onwards had to really dominate. Bisu never got it, Jaedong never did, so MVP doesn't. He's in the "close" camp like them. It's like you don't even understand what the word means.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
September 09 2013 04:38 GMT
#280
On September 09 2013 13:34 purakushi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 11:20 sluggaslamoo wrote:
sigh... I'm starting to think SC2 was the worst thing to happen to Starcraft.


It is.

tbh I have never really understood why the big BW leagues stopped. Even post match fixing scandal OSL's had huge amounts of spectators. Definitely more than SC2 ever has had in Korea. If sponsors started becoming more hesitant they could have just scaled back the tournies. It's not like SC2 has had the best sponsor support either. BW was heavily played in PC bangs up until recently, much more than SC2 ever has. Why did the leagues stop? Most people point to match fixing as the reason but honestly I can't help but feel like Kespa and co were forced to switch by blizzard :/

I'm all for the huge growth of Starcraft in the foreign scene due to SC2, but I still can't really understand why it had to mean BW's death.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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