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Top 50 streamers in August 2013 (plus WCS numbers) - Page 9

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Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
September 02 2013 15:26 GMT
#161
I've been watching way less Esports as I cannot get a good service from Twitch.

Because of my job I have two very powerful computers at home and a Macbook. Both PC's have their own internet connection on different ISP's. One has an ADSL (XS4ALL - 40 / 4 Mbit/s) connection the other a Cable (Ziggo - 60 / 6 Mbit/s) connection.

I can boot my machines in Windows 7 or Ubuntu (or use my Macbook). I've tried every browser in the book. Ran with and without virus checkers. Changed my Router/Modem and Switch. I've tried everything I could find on Twitch support. But still for the last couple of months I've not been able to watch 1080p+ or 720+ without lag. 720 works most of the time, but during Big Tournaments I'm switching between 720 and 480.

(And the twitch pop-bar tries to put the blame on me... it's not me. Most of my friends have the same issues. Different computers, different ISP's).

Twitch could you please improve your service in Europe. You've been promising this for such a long time. You're really killing it for me here.
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dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
September 02 2013 15:44 GMT
#162
On September 02 2013 23:57 Conti wrote:
But then again, people would start asking where Bomber, Demuslim, Ret and so on are if they would be missing from the list, while we pretty much never have a streamer who gets good numbers who streams less than 5 hours a month.

I spent most of last month asking where is DeMuslim!

You're right that there isn't a solid rational argument for 10 hours minimum over 5 but I can offer the irrational one that at least everyone will be in double digit hours.

And then you can add a third chart 'Why don't they stream more' for Flash and the rest who do under 10
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
September 02 2013 15:58 GMT
#163
As always, loved it. I find it really interesting that player streams have dropped off so much. I wonder if that is just because people need to feel the hype of two pro players going at it rather than pro-players vs. semi-pros on stream.

I'm encouraged that WCS NA and EU seem to be doing well, without the international and with so much on the line in this last season I would think that the numbers should actually be going up this season!
saltis
Profile Joined September 2012
159 Posts
September 02 2013 16:04 GMT
#164
Recently I am only watching Avilo stream. He is the only player who does something fun and play unconventionally. All others play only according same pattern, the only difference is if they only play good or bad.
jtp118
Profile Joined November 2010
United States137 Posts
September 02 2013 16:18 GMT
#165
I should also note, I used to watch a lot of Twitch but now watch WCS on Youtube (so those numbers aren't counted); I'm sure I'm not alone
eNjiin
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany27 Posts
September 02 2013 16:26 GMT
#166
In Germany we like statistics. Keep it up Conti.
Arkansassy
Profile Joined October 2010
358 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 16:43:12
September 02 2013 16:40 GMT
#167
Several people mentioned "TwitchTV" as a factor in declining viewership and I will state that if I did not have to watch a stream, I would not, simply because of the quality - or lack there of on Twitch.

Until there is competition, TwitchTV will continue to be inferior. It's, at times, impossible to stream without lag. Viewers complain constantly, not only about the quality, but the inability to get into chat. Streamers can't even get into chat. Mods can't mod many times because they don't have the icons.

I've contacted TwitchTV plenty of times to no avail - I'm basically ignored, because they obviously don't care.

As to PainUser, he streams a lot and is good, but many times viewers say he's asleep on stream. lol Guess, I'm curious as to how that can be taken into account?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25049 Posts
September 02 2013 18:16 GMT
#168
Twitch isn't even working for me at all of late, I figure they've disabled browser compatibility for me, but I'm just guessing as I'm getting no specific error message that'll help me iron out the problems.
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Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
September 02 2013 18:41 GMT
#169
Maybe school is another factor for low viewers. I have no time at all to watch sc2 in my senior year of uni :/
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 02 2013 18:48 GMT
#170
On September 03 2013 03:41 Thor.Rush wrote:
Maybe school is another factor for low viewers. I have no time at all to watch sc2 in my senior year of uni :/

Don't know how school semesters time out outside north america, but here we've been off school since april (of june if you're in highschool). Starting up uni this/next week though. Starting my last year too, and I don't think I'll have time to watch much of anything
Refer to my post.
VieuxSinge
Profile Joined February 2011
France231 Posts
September 02 2013 18:51 GMT
#171
flash is not in the top50? :'(
Another clue to my existence.
ReMinD_
Profile Joined May 2013
Croatia846 Posts
September 02 2013 20:11 GMT
#172
On September 03 2013 03:51 VieuxSinge wrote:
flash is not in the top50? :'(


How could he be after just one session?
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 02 2013 20:15 GMT
#173
On September 03 2013 03:51 VieuxSinge wrote:
flash is not in the top50? :'(


Can you care enough to read the thread instead of just glaring at the list ?
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
September 02 2013 21:23 GMT
#174
Now be nice, guys. There's no requirement to read the whole OP, especially if you just want a quick glance at the numbers.
Decessus
Profile Joined November 2004
Brazil105 Posts
September 03 2013 02:57 GMT
#175
How do I get numbers from other streamers that stream other games, such as Kripparrian and Destiny?

Thanks in advance!
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Gendo
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom216 Posts
September 03 2013 04:59 GMT
#176
Props to the TL's Koreans to put in that amount of hours and make an effort to communicate with their audience, now that i think about it where's Zenio?

But man...PainUser, that's commitment on a new level and hopefully will be rewarded in the future.
Pittski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States50 Posts
September 03 2013 07:01 GMT
#177
Trump, doesn't stream sc2 anymore, or at least lately, But I feel like he should still be in the Featured portion, since he does bring 1200+ viewers a night, and He is a High End player for Hearthstone which is a Blizzard game.
The One and Only
zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
September 03 2013 07:45 GMT
#178
PainUser, what the actual... My hat's off to you, that's some hard work
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
September 03 2013 11:28 GMT
#179
On September 03 2013 11:57 Decessus wrote:
How do I get numbers from other streamers that stream other games, such as Kripparrian and Destiny?

Thanks in advance!

All the numbers I get are from streams listed on teamliquid.net. So I do have Destiny's numbers, but not Kripparrian's. Destiny had an average of 1850 viewers the last month, with a peak of 5350. Hard to say if he'd fare any better or worse if he would still be streaming SC2.

In general, you can use http://www.gamestreams.com/top-100-gsr/ for game stream charts across all games.
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
September 03 2013 19:52 GMT
#180
Great work on those stats.

I don't doubt it that Team leagues are less popular in the west, as all teams are basically just Team Korea. Especially the biggest western teams, such TL or EG has basically just bought an all star Korean line-up (though props to Mouz). It becomes less interesting, viewers always drop when it is just Koreans fighting each other.
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