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I've been watching way less Esports as I cannot get a good service from Twitch.
Because of my job I have two very powerful computers at home and a Macbook. Both PC's have their own internet connection on different ISP's. One has an ADSL (XS4ALL - 40 / 4 Mbit/s) connection the other a Cable (Ziggo - 60 / 6 Mbit/s) connection.
I can boot my machines in Windows 7 or Ubuntu (or use my Macbook). I've tried every browser in the book. Ran with and without virus checkers. Changed my Router/Modem and Switch. I've tried everything I could find on Twitch support. But still for the last couple of months I've not been able to watch 1080p+ or 720+ without lag. 720 works most of the time, but during Big Tournaments I'm switching between 720 and 480.
(And the twitch pop-bar tries to put the blame on me... it's not me. Most of my friends have the same issues. Different computers, different ISP's).
Twitch could you please improve your service in Europe. You've been promising this for such a long time. You're really killing it for me here.
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On September 02 2013 23:57 Conti wrote:
But then again, people would start asking where Bomber, Demuslim, Ret and so on are if they would be missing from the list, while we pretty much never have a streamer who gets good numbers who streams less than 5 hours a month.
I spent most of last month asking where is DeMuslim!
You're right that there isn't a solid rational argument for 10 hours minimum over 5 but I can offer the irrational one that at least everyone will be in double digit hours.
And then you can add a third chart 'Why don't they stream more' for Flash and the rest who do under 10 
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As always, loved it. I find it really interesting that player streams have dropped off so much. I wonder if that is just because people need to feel the hype of two pro players going at it rather than pro-players vs. semi-pros on stream.
I'm encouraged that WCS NA and EU seem to be doing well, without the international and with so much on the line in this last season I would think that the numbers should actually be going up this season!
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Recently I am only watching Avilo stream. He is the only player who does something fun and play unconventionally. All others play only according same pattern, the only difference is if they only play good or bad.
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I should also note, I used to watch a lot of Twitch but now watch WCS on Youtube (so those numbers aren't counted); I'm sure I'm not alone
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In Germany we like statistics. Keep it up Conti. 
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Several people mentioned "TwitchTV" as a factor in declining viewership and I will state that if I did not have to watch a stream, I would not, simply because of the quality - or lack there of on Twitch.
Until there is competition, TwitchTV will continue to be inferior. It's, at times, impossible to stream without lag. Viewers complain constantly, not only about the quality, but the inability to get into chat. Streamers can't even get into chat. Mods can't mod many times because they don't have the icons.
I've contacted TwitchTV plenty of times to no avail - I'm basically ignored, because they obviously don't care.
As to PainUser, he streams a lot and is good, but many times viewers say he's asleep on stream. lol Guess, I'm curious as to how that can be taken into account?
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Twitch isn't even working for me at all of late, I figure they've disabled browser compatibility for me, but I'm just guessing as I'm getting no specific error message that'll help me iron out the problems.
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Maybe school is another factor for low viewers. I have no time at all to watch sc2 in my senior year of uni :/
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On September 03 2013 03:41 Thor.Rush wrote:
Maybe school is another factor for low viewers. I have no time at all to watch sc2 in my senior year of uni :/
Don't know how school semesters time out outside north america, but here we've been off school since april (of june if you're in highschool). Starting up uni this/next week though. Starting my last year too, and I don't think I'll have time to watch much of anything
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flash is not in the top50? :'(
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On September 03 2013 03:51 VieuxSinge wrote:
flash is not in the top50? :'(
How could he be after just one session?
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On September 03 2013 03:51 VieuxSinge wrote:
flash is not in the top50? :'(
Can you care enough to read the thread instead of just glaring at the list ?
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Now be nice, guys. There's no requirement to read the whole OP, especially if you just want a quick glance at the numbers.
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How do I get numbers from other streamers that stream other games, such as Kripparrian and Destiny?
Thanks in advance!
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Props to the TL's Koreans to put in that amount of hours and make an effort to communicate with their audience, now that i think about it where's Zenio?
But man...PainUser, that's commitment on a new level and hopefully will be rewarded in the future.
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Trump, doesn't stream sc2 anymore, or at least lately, But I feel like he should still be in the Featured portion, since he does bring 1200+ viewers a night, and He is a High End player for Hearthstone which is a Blizzard game.
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PainUser, what the actual... My hat's off to you, that's some hard work
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On September 03 2013 11:57 Decessus wrote:
How do I get numbers from other streamers that stream other games, such as Kripparrian and Destiny?
Thanks in advance!
All the numbers I get are from streams listed on teamliquid.net. So I do have Destiny's numbers, but not Kripparrian's. Destiny had an average of 1850 viewers the last month, with a peak of 5350. Hard to say if he'd fare any better or worse if he would still be streaming SC2.
In general, you can use http://www.gamestreams.com/top-100-gsr/ for game stream charts across all games.
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Great work on those stats.
I don't doubt it that Team leagues are less popular in the west, as all teams are basically just Team Korea. Especially the biggest western teams, such TL or EG has basically just bought an all star Korean line-up (though props to Mouz). It becomes less interesting, viewers always drop when it is just Koreans fighting each other.
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