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Just get Artosis to counter-pick you, and you've got a shot.
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That might be a really difficult group for big daddy dong, hopefully he will advance from it.
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On August 15 2013 05:35 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 05:31 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:23 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:21 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
My Predictions:
A. Rain/Jaedong
I'm predicting a Rain stomp through that group with Jaedong narrowly beating MC in the final match to advance. Sadly I don't give Welmu much of a chance here.
B. Polt/Bomber
As good as First played against Fantasy, his absolute dismantling at the hands of Bomber leaves me worried about a chance for a Protoss to advance here. Polt is IMO the strongest player in this group but with how much of a wildcard Bomber can be in TvT I can see him advancing also in second place on the back of his amazing TvP alone.
I just do not see First or Grubby going toe to toe with Polt's TvP and winning.
C. Innovation/Taeja
I do not understand why Group C is currently leading in the Group of Death vote. Innovation and Taeja are in two different leagues compared with Naniwa and Duckdeok. If either of these two do not advance it will be an enormous upset. Then again, Innovation DID lose to Maru and Taeja did drop a map in TvP to Macsed so anything is possible.
D. Maru/Scarlett
This one is honestly the hardest to call. The easiest claim I can make here is that MMA is the weakest player in the group and Maru is the strongest but I have no idea how to call second and third. Scarlett SHOULD win her first place match vs MMA and Maru should win vs Jim but I just do not know who will advance in second place, I went with Scarlett in the end because even though she has expressed concern in her own ZvP, Jim's ZvP vs Jaedong did not look convincing enough to me to give him the odds on nod to advance over her.
Callling MMA the weakest player in group is kinda weird. As someone who was a fan of MMA in his prime I will agree, but times have changed. Of course he is not in top form right now, but anyway, he will definetly beat Scarlett, and can beat Jim. He may lost to Maru of course. He is still elite terran, according to many ratings. You're either overrating MMA's TvZ or underrating Scarlett's ZvT. ZvT is her best match up and from what I've seen of MMA's play lately I wouldn't even consider the two of them close to the same skill level in that match up. It is a team kill though, so MMA might have Scarlett figured out enough to give him an edge but the reverse is just as likely.
You wouldn't consider the two of them close to the same skill level in TvZ/ZvT? MMA has a better winning percentage against Zerg than Scarlett does against Terran in HotS. In fact, MMA has only lost 4 Bo3/Bo5 in the past 4 months. Two of those losses were to Hyun and he went 2-3 against Life in a Bo5.
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Good group for Maru! Gogo
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Russian Federation50 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:35 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 05:31 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:23 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:21 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
My Predictions:
A. Rain/Jaedong
I'm predicting a Rain stomp through that group with Jaedong narrowly beating MC in the final match to advance. Sadly I don't give Welmu much of a chance here.
B. Polt/Bomber
As good as First played against Fantasy, his absolute dismantling at the hands of Bomber leaves me worried about a chance for a Protoss to advance here. Polt is IMO the strongest player in this group but with how much of a wildcard Bomber can be in TvT I can see him advancing also in second place on the back of his amazing TvP alone.
I just do not see First or Grubby going toe to toe with Polt's TvP and winning.
C. Innovation/Taeja
I do not understand why Group C is currently leading in the Group of Death vote. Innovation and Taeja are in two different leagues compared with Naniwa and Duckdeok. If either of these two do not advance it will be an enormous upset. Then again, Innovation DID lose to Maru and Taeja did drop a map in TvP to Macsed so anything is possible.
D. Maru/Scarlett
This one is honestly the hardest to call. The easiest claim I can make here is that MMA is the weakest player in the group and Maru is the strongest but I have no idea how to call second and third. Scarlett SHOULD win her first place match vs MMA and Maru should win vs Jim but I just do not know who will advance in second place, I went with Scarlett in the end because even though she has expressed concern in her own ZvP, Jim's ZvP vs Jaedong did not look convincing enough to me to give him the odds on nod to advance over her.
Callling MMA the weakest player in group is kinda weird. As someone who was a fan of MMA in his prime I will agree, but times have changed. Of course he is not in top form right now, but anyway, he will definetly beat Scarlett, and can beat Jim. He may lost to Maru of course. He is still elite terran, according to many ratings. You're either overrating MMA's TvZ or underrating Scarlett's ZvT. ZvT is her best match up and from what I've seen of MMA's play lately I wouldn't even consider the two of them close to the same skill level in that match up. It is a team kill though, so MMA might have Scarlett figured out enough to give him an edge but the reverse is just as likely.
I may be talking like a fanboy, but MMA TvZ is really strong, its no overrating. He only lost to Hyun and Life in Hots in Bo3 or Bo5 series.
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Russian Federation50 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:42 LittleRedBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 05:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:31 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:23 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:21 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
My Predictions:
A. Rain/Jaedong
I'm predicting a Rain stomp through that group with Jaedong narrowly beating MC in the final match to advance. Sadly I don't give Welmu much of a chance here.
B. Polt/Bomber
As good as First played against Fantasy, his absolute dismantling at the hands of Bomber leaves me worried about a chance for a Protoss to advance here. Polt is IMO the strongest player in this group but with how much of a wildcard Bomber can be in TvT I can see him advancing also in second place on the back of his amazing TvP alone.
I just do not see First or Grubby going toe to toe with Polt's TvP and winning.
C. Innovation/Taeja
I do not understand why Group C is currently leading in the Group of Death vote. Innovation and Taeja are in two different leagues compared with Naniwa and Duckdeok. If either of these two do not advance it will be an enormous upset. Then again, Innovation DID lose to Maru and Taeja did drop a map in TvP to Macsed so anything is possible.
D. Maru/Scarlett
This one is honestly the hardest to call. The easiest claim I can make here is that MMA is the weakest player in the group and Maru is the strongest but I have no idea how to call second and third. Scarlett SHOULD win her first place match vs MMA and Maru should win vs Jim but I just do not know who will advance in second place, I went with Scarlett in the end because even though she has expressed concern in her own ZvP, Jim's ZvP vs Jaedong did not look convincing enough to me to give him the odds on nod to advance over her.
Callling MMA the weakest player in group is kinda weird. As someone who was a fan of MMA in his prime I will agree, but times have changed. Of course he is not in top form right now, but anyway, he will definetly beat Scarlett, and can beat Jim. He may lost to Maru of course. He is still elite terran, according to many ratings. You're either overrating MMA's TvZ or underrating Scarlett's ZvT. ZvT is her best match up and from what I've seen of MMA's play lately I wouldn't even consider the two of them close to the same skill level in that match up. It is a team kill though, so MMA might have Scarlett figured out enough to give him an edge but the reverse is just as likely. You wouldn't consider the two of them close to the same skill level in TvZ/ZvT? MMA has a better winning percentage against Zerg than Scarlett does against Terran in HotS. In fact, MMA has only lost 4 Bo3/Bo5 in the past 4 months. Two of those losses were to Hyun and he went 2-3 against Life in a Bo5.
Gimme five man, thats what im talking about)
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Jim has a decent group, though he could finish 1st or last in that group.
Actually any combination of group D would not surprise me. The other 3 groups all have 1 player I don't see advancing (Welmu, Grubby, and surprisingly WCS EU champ Duckdeok) .
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On August 15 2013 05:44 MaskaGodlike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 05:42 LittleRedBoy wrote:On August 15 2013 05:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:31 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:23 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:21 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
My Predictions:
A. Rain/Jaedong
I'm predicting a Rain stomp through that group with Jaedong narrowly beating MC in the final match to advance. Sadly I don't give Welmu much of a chance here.
B. Polt/Bomber
As good as First played against Fantasy, his absolute dismantling at the hands of Bomber leaves me worried about a chance for a Protoss to advance here. Polt is IMO the strongest player in this group but with how much of a wildcard Bomber can be in TvT I can see him advancing also in second place on the back of his amazing TvP alone.
I just do not see First or Grubby going toe to toe with Polt's TvP and winning.
C. Innovation/Taeja
I do not understand why Group C is currently leading in the Group of Death vote. Innovation and Taeja are in two different leagues compared with Naniwa and Duckdeok. If either of these two do not advance it will be an enormous upset. Then again, Innovation DID lose to Maru and Taeja did drop a map in TvP to Macsed so anything is possible.
D. Maru/Scarlett
This one is honestly the hardest to call. The easiest claim I can make here is that MMA is the weakest player in the group and Maru is the strongest but I have no idea how to call second and third. Scarlett SHOULD win her first place match vs MMA and Maru should win vs Jim but I just do not know who will advance in second place, I went with Scarlett in the end because even though she has expressed concern in her own ZvP, Jim's ZvP vs Jaedong did not look convincing enough to me to give him the odds on nod to advance over her.
Callling MMA the weakest player in group is kinda weird. As someone who was a fan of MMA in his prime I will agree, but times have changed. Of course he is not in top form right now, but anyway, he will definetly beat Scarlett, and can beat Jim. He may lost to Maru of course. He is still elite terran, according to many ratings. You're either overrating MMA's TvZ or underrating Scarlett's ZvT. ZvT is her best match up and from what I've seen of MMA's play lately I wouldn't even consider the two of them close to the same skill level in that match up. It is a team kill though, so MMA might have Scarlett figured out enough to give him an edge but the reverse is just as likely. You wouldn't consider the two of them close to the same skill level in TvZ/ZvT? MMA has a better winning percentage against Zerg than Scarlett does against Terran in HotS. In fact, MMA has only lost 4 Bo3/Bo5 in the past 4 months. Two of those losses were to Hyun and he went 2-3 against Life in a Bo5. Gimme five man, thats what im talking about)
Right, you have to look at the results of players and not go by what you hear from casters or people on the forums. Just because someone like Apollo says that MMA "isn't the player that he used to be", or something along those lines doesn't mean that he isn't good anymore. He's lost A FEW ZvPs recently but that has historically been his weakest matchup.
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On August 15 2013 05:35 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 05:31 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:23 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:21 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
My Predictions:
A. Rain/Jaedong
I'm predicting a Rain stomp through that group with Jaedong narrowly beating MC in the final match to advance. Sadly I don't give Welmu much of a chance here.
B. Polt/Bomber
As good as First played against Fantasy, his absolute dismantling at the hands of Bomber leaves me worried about a chance for a Protoss to advance here. Polt is IMO the strongest player in this group but with how much of a wildcard Bomber can be in TvT I can see him advancing also in second place on the back of his amazing TvP alone.
I just do not see First or Grubby going toe to toe with Polt's TvP and winning.
C. Innovation/Taeja
I do not understand why Group C is currently leading in the Group of Death vote. Innovation and Taeja are in two different leagues compared with Naniwa and Duckdeok. If either of these two do not advance it will be an enormous upset. Then again, Innovation DID lose to Maru and Taeja did drop a map in TvP to Macsed so anything is possible.
D. Maru/Scarlett
This one is honestly the hardest to call. The easiest claim I can make here is that MMA is the weakest player in the group and Maru is the strongest but I have no idea how to call second and third. Scarlett SHOULD win her first place match vs MMA and Maru should win vs Jim but I just do not know who will advance in second place, I went with Scarlett in the end because even though she has expressed concern in her own ZvP, Jim's ZvP vs Jaedong did not look convincing enough to me to give him the odds on nod to advance over her.
Callling MMA the weakest player in group is kinda weird. As someone who was a fan of MMA in his prime I will agree, but times have changed. Of course he is not in top form right now, but anyway, he will definetly beat Scarlett, and can beat Jim. He may lost to Maru of course. He is still elite terran, according to many ratings. You're either overrating MMA's TvZ or underrating Scarlett's ZvT. ZvT is her best match up and from what I've seen of MMA's play lately I wouldn't even consider the two of them close to the same skill level in that match up. It is a team kill though, so MMA might have Scarlett figured out enough to give him an edge but the reverse is just as likely.
I think Scarlett > MMA in skill level is total BS. We'll see though.
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On August 15 2013 05:42 LittleRedBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 05:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:31 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:23 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:21 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
My Predictions:
A. Rain/Jaedong
I'm predicting a Rain stomp through that group with Jaedong narrowly beating MC in the final match to advance. Sadly I don't give Welmu much of a chance here.
B. Polt/Bomber
As good as First played against Fantasy, his absolute dismantling at the hands of Bomber leaves me worried about a chance for a Protoss to advance here. Polt is IMO the strongest player in this group but with how much of a wildcard Bomber can be in TvT I can see him advancing also in second place on the back of his amazing TvP alone.
I just do not see First or Grubby going toe to toe with Polt's TvP and winning.
C. Innovation/Taeja
I do not understand why Group C is currently leading in the Group of Death vote. Innovation and Taeja are in two different leagues compared with Naniwa and Duckdeok. If either of these two do not advance it will be an enormous upset. Then again, Innovation DID lose to Maru and Taeja did drop a map in TvP to Macsed so anything is possible.
D. Maru/Scarlett
This one is honestly the hardest to call. The easiest claim I can make here is that MMA is the weakest player in the group and Maru is the strongest but I have no idea how to call second and third. Scarlett SHOULD win her first place match vs MMA and Maru should win vs Jim but I just do not know who will advance in second place, I went with Scarlett in the end because even though she has expressed concern in her own ZvP, Jim's ZvP vs Jaedong did not look convincing enough to me to give him the odds on nod to advance over her.
Callling MMA the weakest player in group is kinda weird. As someone who was a fan of MMA in his prime I will agree, but times have changed. Of course he is not in top form right now, but anyway, he will definetly beat Scarlett, and can beat Jim. He may lost to Maru of course. He is still elite terran, according to many ratings. You're either overrating MMA's TvZ or underrating Scarlett's ZvT. ZvT is her best match up and from what I've seen of MMA's play lately I wouldn't even consider the two of them close to the same skill level in that match up. It is a team kill though, so MMA might have Scarlett figured out enough to give him an edge but the reverse is just as likely. You wouldn't consider the two of them close to the same skill level in TvZ/ZvT? MMA has a better winning percentage against Zerg than Scarlett does against Terran in HotS. In fact, MMA has only lost 4 Bo3/Bo5 in the past 4 months. Two of those losses were to Hyun and he went 2-3 against Life in a Bo5.
On this one I'm looking at quality of opponents Scarlett has beaten vs pure win percentage.
MMA might have a decent win % vs Zerg but look at who he's been beating.
His best accomplishment in ZvT lately has been a 2-0 of BboongBboong in the WCG Qualifiers, and I haven't seen BboongBboong play since the first two rounds of GSTL. Other than that he's been mostly stomping through Foreign Zergs not up to Scarlett's level in WCS Europe.
Scarlett's match history vs Terran on the other hand is INSANE. She's stomped on every foreign Terran she's come across lately save for a Bo1 loss to Dayshi and has gone almost 50% with Korean Terrans at the level or better than MMA.
If she can 2-0 Polt even on one of his bad days I think she has a good chance vs MMA especially if she carries any of her momentum from WCS America in with her.
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I believe Naniwa can take revenge on duck and then hopefully do some weird meta shit to take out innovation/taeja:D
Jaedong only got one matchup to practice so thats good.
Scarlett is imo atleast the second strongest player in her group so she should be fine.
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Russian Federation50 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:49 LittleRedBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 05:44 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:42 LittleRedBoy wrote:On August 15 2013 05:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:31 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:23 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:21 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
My Predictions:
A. Rain/Jaedong
I'm predicting a Rain stomp through that group with Jaedong narrowly beating MC in the final match to advance. Sadly I don't give Welmu much of a chance here.
B. Polt/Bomber
As good as First played against Fantasy, his absolute dismantling at the hands of Bomber leaves me worried about a chance for a Protoss to advance here. Polt is IMO the strongest player in this group but with how much of a wildcard Bomber can be in TvT I can see him advancing also in second place on the back of his amazing TvP alone.
I just do not see First or Grubby going toe to toe with Polt's TvP and winning.
C. Innovation/Taeja
I do not understand why Group C is currently leading in the Group of Death vote. Innovation and Taeja are in two different leagues compared with Naniwa and Duckdeok. If either of these two do not advance it will be an enormous upset. Then again, Innovation DID lose to Maru and Taeja did drop a map in TvP to Macsed so anything is possible.
D. Maru/Scarlett
This one is honestly the hardest to call. The easiest claim I can make here is that MMA is the weakest player in the group and Maru is the strongest but I have no idea how to call second and third. Scarlett SHOULD win her first place match vs MMA and Maru should win vs Jim but I just do not know who will advance in second place, I went with Scarlett in the end because even though she has expressed concern in her own ZvP, Jim's ZvP vs Jaedong did not look convincing enough to me to give him the odds on nod to advance over her.
Callling MMA the weakest player in group is kinda weird. As someone who was a fan of MMA in his prime I will agree, but times have changed. Of course he is not in top form right now, but anyway, he will definetly beat Scarlett, and can beat Jim. He may lost to Maru of course. He is still elite terran, according to many ratings. You're either overrating MMA's TvZ or underrating Scarlett's ZvT. ZvT is her best match up and from what I've seen of MMA's play lately I wouldn't even consider the two of them close to the same skill level in that match up. It is a team kill though, so MMA might have Scarlett figured out enough to give him an edge but the reverse is just as likely. You wouldn't consider the two of them close to the same skill level in TvZ/ZvT? MMA has a better winning percentage against Zerg than Scarlett does against Terran in HotS. In fact, MMA has only lost 4 Bo3/Bo5 in the past 4 months. Two of those losses were to Hyun and he went 2-3 against Life in a Bo5. Gimme five man, thats what im talking about) Right, you have to look at the results of players and not go by what you hear from casters or people on the forums. Just because someone like Apollo says that MMA "isn't the player that he used to be", or something along those lines doesn't mean that he isn't good anymore. He's lost A FEW ZvPs recently but that has historically been his weakest matchup.
Thats right, i mean i wont be surprised if MMA lose to Jim, but he is a clear favourite versus Scarlet.
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I hate the way Blizzard shows the country flags on the original image. A flag is not a round ball... the dutch and swedish flag can kinda survive this, but the korean and canadian flags look rediculous. Make it rectangular as it should be, please.
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On August 15 2013 05:49 LittleRedBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 05:44 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:42 LittleRedBoy wrote:On August 15 2013 05:35 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:31 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:23 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 15 2013 05:21 MaskaGodlike wrote:On August 15 2013 05:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
My Predictions:
A. Rain/Jaedong
I'm predicting a Rain stomp through that group with Jaedong narrowly beating MC in the final match to advance. Sadly I don't give Welmu much of a chance here.
B. Polt/Bomber
As good as First played against Fantasy, his absolute dismantling at the hands of Bomber leaves me worried about a chance for a Protoss to advance here. Polt is IMO the strongest player in this group but with how much of a wildcard Bomber can be in TvT I can see him advancing also in second place on the back of his amazing TvP alone.
I just do not see First or Grubby going toe to toe with Polt's TvP and winning.
C. Innovation/Taeja
I do not understand why Group C is currently leading in the Group of Death vote. Innovation and Taeja are in two different leagues compared with Naniwa and Duckdeok. If either of these two do not advance it will be an enormous upset. Then again, Innovation DID lose to Maru and Taeja did drop a map in TvP to Macsed so anything is possible.
D. Maru/Scarlett
This one is honestly the hardest to call. The easiest claim I can make here is that MMA is the weakest player in the group and Maru is the strongest but I have no idea how to call second and third. Scarlett SHOULD win her first place match vs MMA and Maru should win vs Jim but I just do not know who will advance in second place, I went with Scarlett in the end because even though she has expressed concern in her own ZvP, Jim's ZvP vs Jaedong did not look convincing enough to me to give him the odds on nod to advance over her.
Callling MMA the weakest player in group is kinda weird. As someone who was a fan of MMA in his prime I will agree, but times have changed. Of course he is not in top form right now, but anyway, he will definetly beat Scarlett, and can beat Jim. He may lost to Maru of course. He is still elite terran, according to many ratings. You're either overrating MMA's TvZ or underrating Scarlett's ZvT. ZvT is her best match up and from what I've seen of MMA's play lately I wouldn't even consider the two of them close to the same skill level in that match up. It is a team kill though, so MMA might have Scarlett figured out enough to give him an edge but the reverse is just as likely. You wouldn't consider the two of them close to the same skill level in TvZ/ZvT? MMA has a better winning percentage against Zerg than Scarlett does against Terran in HotS. In fact, MMA has only lost 4 Bo3/Bo5 in the past 4 months. Two of those losses were to Hyun and he went 2-3 against Life in a Bo5. Gimme five man, thats what im talking about) Right, you have to look at the results of players and not go by what you hear from casters or people on the forums. Just because someone like Apollo says that MMA "isn't the player that he used to be", or something along those lines doesn't mean that he isn't good anymore. He's lost A FEW ZvPs recently but that has historically been his weakest matchup.
I wouldn't be surprised if ZvP is MMA's weakest matchup, I don't expect him to practice it much 
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Damn, poor Jaedong. Things just don't go right for him.
Guess he can just continue practising that ZvP though. Eventually it'll be like JYPvT and he'll become good at it, losing his skill in ZvZ and ZvT in the process.
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Nooo jaedong and only zvp TT
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jaedong........
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On August 15 2013 05:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I hate the way Blizzard shows the country flags on the original image. A flag is not a round ball... the dutch and swedish flag can kinda survive this, but the korean and canadian flags look rediculous. Make it rectangular as it should be, please.
ok the chinese flag is jsut a red dot -_-
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Whats up with all the sad faces for JD? He has Welmu and MC to beat, how is that not the easiest grp for him even if ZvP is his worst match up...
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