EPTWCS Season 2 Finals Groups! - Page 8
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ThreeSixDrew
Canada183 Posts
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Marcinko
South Africa1014 Posts
 Welmu JaedongGroup B  PoltGrubby Group C duckdeokTaeJaGroup D MaruScarlettThis is what I hope for but will never happen! | ||
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Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
Welmu,Rain (YEAAAH) Polt, First Innovation, TaeJa Maru, Jim | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16032 Posts
A. Rain/Jaedong I'm predicting a Rain stomp through that group with Jaedong narrowly beating MC in the final match to advance. Sadly I don't give Welmu much of a chance here. B. Polt/Bomber As good as First played against Fantasy, his absolute dismantling at the hands of Bomber leaves me worried about a chance for a Protoss to advance here. Polt is IMO the strongest player in this group but with how much of a wildcard Bomber can be in TvT I can see him advancing also in second place on the back of his amazing TvP alone. I just do not see First or Grubby going toe to toe with Polt's TvP and winning. C. Innovation/Taeja I do not understand why Group C is currently leading in the Group of Death vote. Innovation and Taeja are in two different leagues compared with Naniwa and Duckdeok. If either of these two do not advance it will be an enormous upset. Then again, Innovation DID lose to Maru and Taeja did drop a map in TvP to Macsed so anything is possible. D. Maru/Scarlett This one is honestly the hardest to call. The easiest claim I can make here is that MMA is the weakest player in the group and Maru is the strongest but I have no idea how to call second and third. Scarlett SHOULD win her first place match vs MMA and Maru should win vs Jim but I just do not know who will advance in second place, I went with Scarlett in the end because even though she has expressed concern in her own ZvP, Jim's ZvP vs Jaedong did not look convincing enough to me to give him the odds on nod to advance over her. There is also the off chance that Scarlett can actually knock off Maru in a ZvT. His last televised TvZ was against Symbol and despite winning there I couldn't help but feel that Symbol just did not play a good series against him, perhaps Scarlett has a chance there, narrow perhaps but not impossible. | ||
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FoShao
United States256 Posts
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MaskaGodlike
Russian Federation50 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:15 Vindicare605 wrote: My Predictions: A. Rain/Jaedong I'm predicting a Rain stomp through that group with Jaedong narrowly beating MC in the final match to advance. Sadly I don't give Welmu much of a chance here. B. Polt/Bomber As good as First played against Fantasy, his absolute dismantling at the hands of Bomber leaves me worried about a chance for a Protoss to advance here. Polt is IMO the strongest player in this group but with how much of a wildcard Bomber can be in TvT I can see him advancing also in second place on the back of his amazing TvP alone. I just do not see First or Grubby going toe to toe with Polt's TvP and winning. C. Innovation/Taeja I do not understand why Group C is currently leading in the Group of Death vote. Innovation and Taeja are in two different leagues compared with Naniwa and Duckdeok. If either of these two do not advance it will be an enormous upset. Then again, Innovation DID lose to Maru and Taeja did drop a map in TvP to Macsed so anything is possible. D. Maru/Scarlett This one is honestly the hardest to call. The easiest claim I can make here is that MMA is the weakest player in the group and Maru is the strongest but I have no idea how to call second and third. Scarlett SHOULD win her first place match vs MMA and Maru should win vs Jim but I just do not know who will advance in second place, I went with Scarlett in the end because even though she has expressed concern in her own ZvP, Jim's ZvP vs Jaedong did not look convincing enough to me to give him the odds on nod to advance over her. Callling MMA the weakest player in group is kinda weird. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16032 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:19 FoShao wrote: lol whoever made these groups must not like Jaedong Naniwa got screwed way harder than Jaedong did. At least Jaedong only needs to prepare for one match up and has arguably the weakest foreigner in his group. Naniwa has to prepare for a PvP against duckdeok and then TvP vs two of the best Terrans in the world. Grubby might have gotten it the worst out of everyone though. First has amazing Code S level PvP and Bomber and Polt are both monsters in TvP provided Bomber doesn't try to pull some boneheaded Mech build. (Still bitter about that one Wintex?) | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16032 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:21 MaskaGodlike wrote: Callling MMA the weakest player in group is kinda weird. As someone who was a fan of MMA in his prime I will agree, but times have changed. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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LittleRedBoy
United States229 Posts
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indiouhh
Mexico3 Posts
The final match will be Innovation Vs Polt. I don't know who will win tho and obviously the odds are in favor of Innovation. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16032 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:26 LittleRedBoy wrote: I really don't understand how you guys think that MMA won't advance from his group. He's won 65% of his games in HotS and 77% of his games against zerg. Stomping through WCS Europe is not the same as going toe to toe with players on the caliber of Maru or going against ZvT snipers like Scarlett. | ||
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LittleRedBoy
United States229 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:26 indiouhh wrote: What the hell happened to Soulkey?! The final match will be Innovation Vs Polt. I don't know who will win tho and obviously the odds are in favor of Innovation. Innovation? You mean the guy that lost 0-6 combined to Maru and Bomber, who are also in this tournament? | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:26 indiouhh wrote: What the hell happened to Soulkey?! The final match will be Innovation Vs Polt. I don't know who will win tho and obviously the odds are in favor of Innovation. Supernova happened. Then First happened to him. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16032 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:26 indiouhh wrote: What the hell happened to Soulkey?! The final match will be Innovation Vs Polt. I don't know who will win tho and obviously the odds are in favor of Innovation. Innovation and Supernova happened to Soulkey. He got unlucky in the pairings for the Ro8 in WCS Korea going against Innovation there. Once he got into the playoff qualifier for 5th place he met Supernova who played an AMAZING series there to knock him out of contention for the finals only to then lose to First in the last series. | ||
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MaskaGodlike
Russian Federation50 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:23 Vindicare605 wrote: As someone who was a fan of MMA in his prime I will agree, but times have changed. Of course he is not in top form right now, but anyway, he will definetly beat Scarlett, and can beat Jim. He may lost to Maru of course. He is still elite terran, according to many ratings. | ||
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remember87
Sweden144 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16032 Posts
On August 15 2013 05:31 MaskaGodlike wrote: Of course he is not in top form right now, but anyway, he will definetly beat Scarlett, and can beat Jim. He may lost to Maru of course. He is still elite terran, according to many ratings. You're either overrating MMA's TvZ or underrating Scarlett's ZvT. ZvT is her best match up and from what I've seen of MMA's play lately I wouldn't even consider the two of them close to the same skill level in that match up. It is a team kill though, so MMA might have Scarlett figured out enough to give him an edge but the reverse is just as likely. | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On August 15 2013 02:15 Musicus wrote: Jaedong fans should close their eyes, as the groups for the WCS S2 Finals have been released! MC and Welmu are both beatable. I don't think Jaedong's ZvP is as bad as people think (or at least, it can easily improve). It's Naniwa's group that is horrible  (Taeja, Innovation, and Finale/DuckDeok) | ||
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