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On August 15 2013 00:37 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 00:34 Doublemint wrote:On August 15 2013 00:33 Plansix wrote:On August 15 2013 00:29 partydude89 wrote:On August 15 2013 00:27 Noocta wrote:
I don't blame them.
After their incident with Travelocity, they probably don't want to fly their players again so soon. Actually they tweeted someone and just said "haha, this one had nothing to do with travelocity" Yeah, I don’t know what the reasons are, but it could be anything from budget or timing. At the end of the day, sometimes people can’t make it to events. Too bad really :-/ What happened with travelocity and Axiom that people are talking about? They fucked up their tickets, canceled them and then charged them after canceling. Its like 4 automated systems all fucking up and not talking to each other, canceling their flights and then charging them $6,000 for nothing.
Say wat? T_T TB must have gone through the roof.
Thanks for the answers.
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oh wow! very unfortunate 
Was really looking forward to ATC tournament portion
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wow
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On August 15 2013 00:32 Vete wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 00:30 Aeromi wrote:
Erf such a bad news. :/
Will we see Millenium instead ? Maybe ForGG is in Europe back .
ForGG will be in Europe tomorrow. 
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I hope either Millenium can go on short notice or they change it up so TL plays Acer because MVP got 1st place. Would be stupid if the 3rd placed team got a walkover to the finals and not the 1st place team.
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On August 15 2013 00:46 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 00:32 Vete wrote:On August 15 2013 00:30 Aeromi wrote:
Erf such a bad news. :/
Will we see Millenium instead ? Maybe ForGG is in Europe back . ForGG will be in Europe tomorrow.
sounds well for Mill.
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I guess team leagues are only possible with huge safety deposits. Poor Acer, poor Intel and poor Take, I feel sorry for them. I understand the Proleague 100k safety deposit now. Why did they even participate?
Huge props to MVP, that they did not pull that shit.
Also sucks that no reasons are given.
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A entry fee like SPL has is great for these kind of situations.
Having one out of four qualified teams not attend really ruins the tournament. Hope Millenium gets Axiom's spot.
Genna posted their reasons on reddit:
After WCS NA, we felt that CranK needed to focus on recovering from his injury.
There is not much time left to prepare for DreamHack Bucharest and we want to be in top condition. (Also in the event we make it to the SC2L offline portion, we wanted to be prepared for that as well.)
We were not directly made aware that teams would only receive $1500 for the entire team to travel from Korea to Germany until flights were ridiculously overpriced. ($1500 per team is comped by ATC, not per person)
Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1kcp39/axiomesports_we_will_be_unable_to_compete_in_the/cbnl6wv
My personal opinion is that a team participating in these kind of leagues should 100% be ready to attend if they go that far, and the reasons listed aren't really stuff that has come up last minute (maybe Crank, depending if it has gotten worse).
Hopefully this wont prevent Axiom players to participate in future online leagues with offline finals.
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That sucks, I hope the next team in the ranking will then be able to fill in short time.
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Shame really considering Axiom would've definitely brought up the level of competition. I think Millennium can be a worthy replacement.
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I hope Millenium or Mouz can attend instead
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Tbh this is really unprofessional of TB and his team. If they can't participate don't join. You dont see Barcelona cancelling their match in Champions League.
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3 days before the start if really a bad timing for the cancelling. Hope they can get a good replacement.
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On August 15 2013 00:49 DJHelium wrote:A entry fee like SPL has is great for these kind of situations. Having one out of four qualified teams not attend really ruins the tournament. Hope Millenium gets Axiom's spot. Genna posted their reasons on reddit: Show nested quote +After WCS NA, we felt that CranK needed to focus on recovering from his injury.
There is not much time left to prepare for DreamHack Bucharest and we want to be in top condition. (Also in the event we make it to the SC2L offline portion, we wanted to be prepared for that as well.)
We were not directly made aware that teams would only receive $1500 for the entire team to travel from Korea to Germany until flights were ridiculously overpriced. ($1500 per team is comped by ATC, not per person) Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1kcp39/axiomesports_we_will_be_unable_to_compete_in_the/cbnl6wv
That is completely stupid by ATC if they want teams form several regions to attend. There is no reason to fly your team out if you are only reimbursed $1,500. It just doesn’t make sense for a team attempting to make a profit.
The costs of flights is murder on smaller teams and it’s the reason a lot of Dota 2 events are held online. If ATC isn’t willing to put up the full value for travel, they might as well be upfront and clear about it. I don't think this is something folks would just assume.
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On August 15 2013 00:52 AyaaLa wrote:
Tbh this is really unprofessional of TB and his team. If they can't participate don't join. You dont see Barcelona cancelling their match in Champions League.
I agree (expect the inappropriate Barcelona/Champions league comparison and saying that the team is run by TB).
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Dayshi is already in Krefeld (with Harstem and Targa) coaching Take. So it might be Mill
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On August 15 2013 00:52 AyaaLa wrote:
Tbh this is really unprofessional of TB and his team. If they can't participate don't join. You dont see Barcelona cancelling their match in Champions League.
I think they were misimformed about how much ATC would cover in travel and Cranks injury is likely a factor.
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I don't think this is the league's fault, it's axiom's only fault imo.
I like TB, genna and axiom, but they dropped the ball in this one.
It really sucks for everybody...
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On August 15 2013 00:53 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 00:49 DJHelium wrote:A entry fee like SPL has is great for these kind of situations. Having one out of four qualified teams not attend really ruins the tournament. Hope Millenium gets Axiom's spot. Genna posted their reasons on reddit: After WCS NA, we felt that CranK needed to focus on recovering from his injury.
There is not much time left to prepare for DreamHack Bucharest and we want to be in top condition. (Also in the event we make it to the SC2L offline portion, we wanted to be prepared for that as well.)
We were not directly made aware that teams would only receive $1500 for the entire team to travel from Korea to Germany until flights were ridiculously overpriced. ($1500 per team is comped by ATC, not per person) Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1kcp39/axiomesports_we_will_be_unable_to_compete_in_the/cbnl6wv That is completely stupid by ATC if they want teams form several regions to attend. There is no reason to fly your team out if you are only reimbursed $1,500. It just doesn’t make sense for a team attempting to make a profit. The costs of flights is murder on smaller teams and it’s the reason a lot of Dota 2 events are held online. If ATC isn’t willing to put up the full value for travel, they might as well be upfront about it.
Err, wasn't it common knowledge that they would only reimburse 1500$ in total...?
I mean, a lot of random users on TL and reddit seem to know about it, so I don't think it is presumptuous to expect the manager of an attending team to know it as well.
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If they are really concerned about Crank's injury and he needs time off.. could they even compete anyways? Their liquipedia roster is only 4 people.
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