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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 08 2013 14:48 GMT
#221
On August 08 2013 23:45 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:22 SpecialistSc wrote:
simply put, sc2 is not a investment that's worth any more
just look at the viewer count
a single LoL pro's stream gets more views than WCS America premiere league early stages

So WHY invest in sc2? MLG good job, nobody can blame you guys for making a sensical decision


SC2 recently had +200.000 viewers at an MLG.


I already wrote someone off about such numbers in a LR for the Grand Finals. Don't make bust out the hickory stick on you too lol.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 14:48:39
August 08 2013 14:48 GMT
#222
On August 08 2013 23:23 Pirfiktshon wrote:
@robert1005 its true its really really sad to see games like LoL and Dota take the spot light. It wells me up with tears I hope sc2 never dies!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't get this line of thought, DotA, LoL and SC2 can all be successful.

Edit: Changed though to thought
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
August 08 2013 14:48 GMT
#223
On August 08 2013 23:45 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:22 SpecialistSc wrote:
simply put, sc2 is not a investment that's worth any more
just look at the viewer count
a single LoL pro's stream gets more views than WCS America premiere league early stages

So WHY invest in sc2? MLG good job, nobody can blame you guys for making a sensical decision


SC2 recently had +200.000 viewers at an MLG.


Lol, what are you smoking? It had like 120k PEAK. Nowhere even close to 200k. 2011 MLG in 2011 had like 150k peak, stop taking numbers from thin air.
Jaedong & Faker
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3387 Posts
August 08 2013 14:49 GMT
#224
What happened? It was looking so good for SC2, games are more exciting now than ever, the best players are winning finally.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
August 08 2013 14:49 GMT
#225
I feel that MLG actually does have plans for SC2 at MLG, they're just pretending they don't to stir some shit.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
August 08 2013 14:49 GMT
#226
On August 08 2013 23:46 ZAiNs wrote:
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On August 08 2013 23:42 marcesr wrote:
Whoop and there we go. What Ive been saying for almost 2 years is slowly becoming true.

SC2 has no future on the big stage in EU and NA if we keep playing out Top 16 Korean brackets.

20k hardcore fans who go nuts no matter who plays as long as the ingame moves are awesome are not enough to support the scene.
We need the guys who tune in once a month for the big show at MLG/Dreamhack etc. These guys want to see players like Idra, Stephano, Grubby, Naniwa, Incontrol, MC, Flash and Jaedong. They need storylines which are super easy to follow, they dont need Top 20 random Korean bullshit.

When will you finally get that?
Every single mainstream competition in the western world works like that.

Grouping Incontrol with Flash? lol


Would draw 10x the viewers for the first round than Eo Yoon Su vs Kim Min Hyuk, yes.
Fiallach
Profile Joined October 2012
France38 Posts
August 08 2013 14:49 GMT
#227
I think eventually, SC2 will flatline in the US, with WCS NA produced by NASL and payed for by blizzard being the exception. And it's meant to be, there is almost no pro scene, crowds are not overwhelming,and timezones put the viewership down. MLG never was the best tournament for me, very often it was a few Korean stars crushing the rest, a few B koreans putting a good show sometimes, and foreigners that were already in the US getting crushed. So, if MLG goes away, i won't cry. Maybe it's just me, but i never liked their production style.

I feel the SC2 world will have two scenes. Top pros battling out in korea. Second tier koreans/ legends battling against foreigners in Europe. Viewership has shifted towards Europe anyways. And with the exemple one of the biggest seated hall in Paris sold out with the iron squid, for SC only,orthe dreamhacks looking strong everytime, i don't see SC2 going away soon. If the scene struggles, we will just cut a little the prizepools, they all go to the same 10 people anyways.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
August 08 2013 14:49 GMT
#228
It would obviously suck if MLG would drop SC2 but I've seen pretty decent viewer numbers for WCS EU this week; So please refrain on the "SC2 is dying" please.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
August 08 2013 14:50 GMT
#229
On August 08 2013 23:46 TigerKarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:42 marcesr wrote:
Whoop and there we go. What Ive been saying for almost 2 years is slowly becoming true.

SC2 has no future on the big stage in EU and NA if we keep playing out Top 16 Korean brackets.

20k hardcore fans who go nuts no matter who plays as long as the ingame moves are awesome are not enough to support the scene.
We need the guys who tune in once a month for the big show at MLG/Dreamhack etc. These guys want to see players like Idra, Stephano, Grubby, Naniwa, Incontrol, MC, Flash and Jaedong. They need storylines which are super easy to follow, they dont need Top 20 random Korean bullshit.

When will you finally get that?
Every single mainstream competition in the western world works like that.

It's sad that it has come this far. SC2 needs some kind of big infusion, otherwise it will die, and with the massive fails of Blizzard in terms of their WCS and the game being really boring and lonely to play, i can't say they don't deserve it, the had it coming honestly.


A big infusion? If HOTS and Blizzard launching WCS doesn't count as a big infusion in your book then i don't know how realistic your expectations are
n.Die_Jaedong
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
August 08 2013 14:50 GMT
#230
Not shocking, last event felt like the last one considering how they basically had 0 info out and only released the info very late. Felt like they didn't wanna do it but kinda had too since people had bought flights etc already. Now they come out early and say hey don't book shit and then blame us.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 08 2013 14:50 GMT
#231
On August 08 2013 23:49 iaguz wrote:
I feel that MLG actually does have plans for SC2 at MLG, they're just pretending they don't to stir some shit.


Yep, publicity/marketing. Anyway, I'm not going to give this any more attention than need be because I know it's impossible to stop you guys from going over the top. Have fun though!
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 08 2013 14:50 GMT
#232
On August 08 2013 23:49 ejozl wrote:
What happened? It was looking so good for SC2, games are more exciting now than ever, the best players are winning finally.


nothing happened, ppl are just making drama out of nothing
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
August 08 2013 14:51 GMT
#233
Doesn't make sense for them to cut out SC2 now. They really should only have two reasons for this: 1. something related to WCS and Blizzard or 2. they're planning something else for SC2 in particular.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 14:52:12
August 08 2013 14:51 GMT
#234
On August 08 2013 23:49 iaguz wrote:
I feel that MLG actually does have plans for SC2 at MLG, they're just pretending they don't to stir some shit.


Yeah, pretty sure this is the plan. Big sc2 events still bring in a big chunk of viewers, I don't see why they would abandon it.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3683 Posts
August 08 2013 14:52 GMT
#235
Well if that is the case this may be the first MLG since 2008 that I won't watch live. They already kicked halo which I was originally tuning in for. I fall asleep watching moba and cod is the pinnacle of fucking up fps. Really really sad to see, but the event is still 3 months away.
Zenatsu
Profile Joined February 2011
100 Posts
August 08 2013 14:52 GMT
#236
On August 08 2013 23:45 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
So as a reaction to MLG dropping SC2 you are suggesting to spend money on their merchandise? I see the logic you are trying to apply, but sorry, nobody should throw money at this organisation hoping to maybe get something back.


You don't like MLG, then don't support them. its quite simple.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
August 08 2013 14:52 GMT
#237
On August 08 2013 23:46 Knightess wrote:
I hoep they dont jump the dota train. Dota is better off without MLG -_-


I agree. I can see them charging $10+ for in game tickets and other stupid nonsense already!
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
August 08 2013 14:53 GMT
#238
On August 08 2013 23:49 ejozl wrote:
What happened? It was looking so good for SC2, games are more exciting now than ever, the best players are winning finally.


Yep, games have never been more exciting and the skill ceiling has never been higher BUT big surprise, thats not all people care about. (Apart from the hardcore TL fans)
pjc8513
Profile Joined October 2012
20 Posts
August 08 2013 14:53 GMT
#239
Sc2 is sooooo dead. & e-sports. Was fun while it lasted. Go play soccer.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
August 08 2013 14:53 GMT
#240
What will they have to replace it I wonder. SC II really drives there viewership numbers. Call of duty ghosts will be out, but CoD doesn't attract the numbers SC II does. Maybe the next Halo Maybe Dota 2? I would love to see more dota 2 lan events. I still really don't like how blizzard is handling the wcs.

WCS AM is all korean just about, which kills
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