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ROOT Gaming's TheOgnis (T) retires from StarCraft - Page 13

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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
August 01 2013 08:16 GMT
#241
NOO Theo (((((((
Good luck mann!
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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 08:19:32
August 01 2013 08:18 GMT
#242
On August 01 2013 17:01 Moosy wrote:
Its not just the wcs format, its also the hellbat nerf + banshee buff. a lot of terran are struggling (even innovation) in the current metagame. theo played exclusively hellbat tvt. hots is quickly going the route of wol. gg blizzard.



Sorry, but I just don't see the legitimacy of that comment... The hellbat WAS totally OP, I hated TvT for being reduced to a mere hellbat drop feast, they nerfed it rightfully and now I feel TvT has become versatile again and that's all I need: A variety of builds/unit comps I can choose from, that doesn't really go for TvZ or TvP.

People have to get used to metagame shifts all the time and I'm pretty sure they will eventually, since it isn't even THAT groundbreaking imho.

EDIT: swapped quote and comment hehe
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Tabashi
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium129 Posts
August 01 2013 08:20 GMT
#243
Poor Catz... He didn't have much luck with his players so far. I feel like it's a dumb decision from Theognis to quit SC2 now, but I guess he has other reasons we probably don't know about.
"I'll be the hero you deserve." - HerO, aKa the Batman Protoss
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 08:25:52
August 01 2013 08:21 GMT
#244
I've never particularly followed this guy but he had a nice reputation. Shame for him, gl for whatever he's going to do next.



By the way lol @ this twitter asshole? he's flamed theognis and what almost every personality in esports there is o_o: https://twitter.com/WaylanderSC2_

edit: reading more he's a ridiculously toxic person what the hell
maru lover forever
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
August 01 2013 08:27 GMT
#245
all he needed was a little more practise...
Root needs to step it up and show their players hard work pays off but then again AM WCS is really tough for american players.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Tabashi
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium129 Posts
August 01 2013 08:28 GMT
#246
On August 01 2013 17:01 Moosy wrote:
Its not just the wcs format, its also the hellbat nerf + banshee buff. a lot of terran are struggling (even innovation) in the current metagame. theo played exclusively hellbat tvt. hots is quickly going the route of wol. gg blizzard.

Allow me to point out how stupid your statements are:

"HotS is quickly going the route of WoL" How so? The skill ceiling has been raised by A LOT. Every race is way more solid early on, meaning that everyone can go into macro games more easily than in WoL, which is a BIG change in my opinion.


"a lot of terran are struggling (even innovation) in the current metagame"

How is InnoVation struggling because of the hellbat nerf, since every terran in the world plays with the same units? Are you saying that because he lost to Maru 4 times in a row? He got cheesed and he's bad at defending cheese, it has nothing to do with balance.

I guess you're just talking out of your... neck.

Keep your posts for the Bnet forums. If you think you can do better than Blizzard, maybe you should apply for a job in their balancing team...
"I'll be the hero you deserve." - HerO, aKa the Batman Protoss
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 01 2013 08:56 GMT
#247
On August 01 2013 17:01 Moosy wrote:
Its not just the wcs format, its also the hellbat nerf + banshee buff. a lot of terran are struggling (even innovation) in the current metagame. theo played exclusively hellbat tvt. hots is quickly going the route of wol. gg blizzard.


Yeah terran is doing so badly they took 3/4th in the semis of this OSL, and 4 out of the 8 spots for the ro8 with 7 of the 16 in ro16. What a terrible race just so underpowered.

I am kind of surprised to see Theo retire, but if you aren't enjoying the game or you want to move on good for him.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Decendos
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1341 Posts
August 01 2013 08:58 GMT
#248
sad to see. was always nice to see him on meta or elsewhere
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
August 01 2013 08:59 GMT
#249
On August 01 2013 17:21 Incognoto wrote:
I've never particularly followed this guy but he had a nice reputation. Shame for him, gl for whatever he's going to do next.



By the way lol @ this twitter asshole? he's flamed theognis and what almost every personality in esports there is o_o: https://twitter.com/WaylanderSC2_

edit: reading more he's a ridiculously toxic person what the hell

That guy has no life and is literally cancer to esports.
FridayNext
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany13 Posts
August 01 2013 09:52 GMT
#250
That guy has no life and is literally cancer to esports.

Wow, yeah...
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
August 01 2013 11:04 GMT
#251
On August 01 2013 18:52 FridayNext wrote:
Show nested quote +
That guy has no life and is literally cancer to esports.

Wow, yeah...


Cancer is relevant, this guy isn´t.
guitaraffa
Profile Joined November 2010
15 Posts
August 01 2013 11:20 GMT
#252
On August 01 2013 20:04 Daswollvieh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 18:52 FridayNext wrote:
That guy has no life and is literally cancer to esports.

Wow, yeah...


Cancer is relevant, this guy isn´t.


Amazing... he's an SC2 twitter troll who insults everyone involved with SC2. He's quite an epic douche bag to take someone's retirement tweet and instantly be as negative as possible. You would think the guy wasn't serious, but based on his posts he really seems to be true scum. It's almost impressive.

Good luck to theo!
Swift118
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom335 Posts
August 01 2013 11:33 GMT
#253
On August 01 2013 20:20 guitaraffa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 20:04 Daswollvieh wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:52 FridayNext wrote:
That guy has no life and is literally cancer to esports.

Wow, yeah...


Cancer is relevant, this guy isn´t.


Amazing... he's an SC2 twitter troll who insults everyone involved with SC2. He's quite an epic douche bag to take someone's retirement tweet and instantly be as negative as possible. You would think the guy wasn't serious, but based on his posts he really seems to be true scum. It's almost impressive.

Good luck to theo!


That guy is a real piece of work..

GL Theo, I watched your stream a couple times, would be nice to see a post from you, no need to leave the scene on a bad note (unless something happened we do not know about)
.rebOrn
Profile Joined February 2013
United States49 Posts
August 01 2013 12:20 GMT
#254
Theo' is such a nice and cool guy, all the best in whatever you do!
Grandmaster Zerg all servers~
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
August 01 2013 12:33 GMT
#255
On August 01 2013 17:56 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 17:01 Moosy wrote:
Its not just the wcs format, its also the hellbat nerf + banshee buff. a lot of terran are struggling (even innovation) in the current metagame. theo played exclusively hellbat tvt. hots is quickly going the route of wol. gg blizzard.


Yeah terran is doing so badly they took 3/4th in the semis of this OSL, and 4 out of the 8 spots for the ro8 with 7 of the 16 in ro16. What a terrible race just so underpowered.

I am kind of surprised to see Theo retire, but if you aren't enjoying the game or you want to move on good for him.


Those are Korean terrans you're talking about, American and European terrans are no way on the lvl off the Korean terrans.

He retired because he can't pay for shit in a Starcraft 2 pro-gaming career at the moment, Blizzard kind of killed the American and European scenes because they won't make it region-locked the Koreans just come over and get top 3 in the entire thing and then the Americans and Europeans don't get enough money to live from.

Probably only a few times that pay their players a salary from which they can live.
like TL, Mouz, EG. and then almost all the KeSPA teams and LG-IM, MVP, etc. Korean teams pull in way more sponsors than the European teams at the moment with the exception of EG of course.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 01 2013 12:57 GMT
#256
On August 01 2013 21:33 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 17:56 blade55555 wrote:
On August 01 2013 17:01 Moosy wrote:
Its not just the wcs format, its also the hellbat nerf + banshee buff. a lot of terran are struggling (even innovation) in the current metagame. theo played exclusively hellbat tvt. hots is quickly going the route of wol. gg blizzard.


Yeah terran is doing so badly they took 3/4th in the semis of this OSL, and 4 out of the 8 spots for the ro8 with 7 of the 16 in ro16. What a terrible race just so underpowered.

I am kind of surprised to see Theo retire, but if you aren't enjoying the game or you want to move on good for him.


Those are Korean terrans you're talking about, American and European terrans are no way on the lvl off the Korean terrans.

He retired because he can't pay for shit in a Starcraft 2 pro-gaming career at the moment, Blizzard kind of killed the American and European scenes because they won't make it region-locked the Koreans just come over and get top 3 in the entire thing and then the Americans and Europeans don't get enough money to live from.

Probably only a few times that pay their players a salary from which they can live.
like TL, Mouz, EG. and then almost all the KeSPA teams and LG-IM, MVP, etc. Korean teams pull in way more sponsors than the European teams at the moment with the exception of EG of course.

Come on, lets be clear, the American scene killed itself. Blizzard is offering the only tournament worth talking about in NA beyond MLG. The rest of the time, NA viewers refuse to watch anything that isn’t, live, in studio productions that rival GSL and complain when it isn’t of that level. If we have 7-10 online cups that were giving out 10K every 3-4 months, we would be doing better, but all the scene would do it complain. Meanwhile, Dota 2 has tons of events running at all time that are online, but no one can complain because they don’t have GSL is to compare it to and say “Why isn’t it that????”
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
August 01 2013 14:25 GMT
#257
On August 01 2013 21:57 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 21:33 MrMercuG wrote:
On August 01 2013 17:56 blade55555 wrote:
On August 01 2013 17:01 Moosy wrote:
Its not just the wcs format, its also the hellbat nerf + banshee buff. a lot of terran are struggling (even innovation) in the current metagame. theo played exclusively hellbat tvt. hots is quickly going the route of wol. gg blizzard.


Yeah terran is doing so badly they took 3/4th in the semis of this OSL, and 4 out of the 8 spots for the ro8 with 7 of the 16 in ro16. What a terrible race just so underpowered.

I am kind of surprised to see Theo retire, but if you aren't enjoying the game or you want to move on good for him.


Those are Korean terrans you're talking about, American and European terrans are no way on the lvl off the Korean terrans.

He retired because he can't pay for shit in a Starcraft 2 pro-gaming career at the moment, Blizzard kind of killed the American and European scenes because they won't make it region-locked the Koreans just come over and get top 3 in the entire thing and then the Americans and Europeans don't get enough money to live from.

Probably only a few times that pay their players a salary from which they can live.
like TL, Mouz, EG. and then almost all the KeSPA teams and LG-IM, MVP, etc. Korean teams pull in way more sponsors than the European teams at the moment with the exception of EG of course.

Come on, lets be clear, the American scene killed itself. Blizzard is offering the only tournament worth talking about in NA beyond MLG. The rest of the time, NA viewers refuse to watch anything that isn’t, live, in studio productions that rival GSL and complain when it isn’t of that level. If we have 7-10 online cups that were giving out 10K every 3-4 months, we would be doing better, but all the scene would do it complain. Meanwhile, Dota 2 has tons of events running at all time that are online, but no one can complain because they don’t have GSL is to compare it to and say “Why isn’t it that????”


I so agree.. this feels exactly right! Peeps and players (like hellokitty i.e.) bitch to much about there so called WCS must be regionbased.

1st. there was no WCS, they could not even compete for 10k pricepool because they suck (sorry but hell, i cant beat around this korean bush).
2nd. Blizzard gives them also a chance to get 10k firstprize and they complain instantly....
3. like little bitches they are... p They want 10k region GARANTUEED!!!1 Motherfucka's else our scene wont grow... what shameless bullshit is this NA proscene.. go suck donkeyballs because this is bullshit... if u give a plant to much water it dies... seems NA scene is also to wet atm.
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 01 2013 14:45 GMT
#258
i could never pronounce his name, and now I'll never have to!

sad
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
LaGTTJack
Profile Joined November 2010
United States69 Posts
August 01 2013 14:45 GMT
#259
I remember watching his stream some months ago and he was doing a Q and A, I asked him if he was playing full time or if he had other things. He said he was 100% committed to esports right now but if things didn't click soon he was going to go back to school and try doing real world stuff and quit sc2. Guess that time came. GL in the future man, always been a fan and will still be one, I still remember watching on of your original WoL games against Idra and remember thinking that you were easily one of the better NA terrans.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
August 01 2013 15:07 GMT
#260
I don't know why people are still getting sad about these things. Its normal and to be expected that if you're a pro-SC2 player who hasn't had meaningful success in a while, continuing to play is just a waste of time and damaging to your future. Competition is way too fierce amongst the hardcore professional players, whether Korean or not. This really shouldn't be shocking anymore, especially amongst these sorts of players. I'd rather applaud him for making a smart decision, and wish him well like everyone else.
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