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ROOT Gaming's TheOgnis (T) retires from StarCraft - Page 11

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Pittski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States50 Posts
August 01 2013 04:03 GMT
#201
I kind of feel like after the whole Destiny spaz moment which lead to him switching to LoL, that it was like a Trending standpoint that was set. From there people have been noticed for rage retiring more, and more with it getting pointed out.
The One and Only
PonceDeLEGABE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States117 Posts
August 01 2013 04:11 GMT
#202
Yeah good luck to Ognis on whatever he sets on doing. Hope he takes time to think of his decisions, if this is what he sets out to do i wish him luck.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
August 01 2013 04:15 GMT
#203
done w/ sc2? even playing it casually? T_T
AKMU / IU
Von
Profile Joined May 2009
United States363 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 04:16:42
August 01 2013 04:16 GMT
#204
On August 01 2013 08:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 08:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 01 2013 08:13 StarVe wrote:
On August 01 2013 08:12 TXRaunchy wrote:
his last strat: failed 2 rax rush.

It's the classic way for Terrans to go out. Select did failed 2 rax games for like two months until he switched to Dota.

and remember PuMa's 2 rax vs sOs?


I wish I couldnt...

But on topic sad to see him go, he seemed like a real American terran hope


This right here.

I caught some of this guys games on stream and was immediately impressed. So much so, that
that right there is exactly what I thought.

Had the potential to be one of the best American players ever imo. Best of luck in whatever he does!



If its not fun I dont want it.
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
August 01 2013 04:18 GMT
#205
Aww , too many Americans leaving!
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
Happygreek
Profile Joined April 2012
United States220 Posts
August 01 2013 04:31 GMT
#206
Awwwwwww didn't really know much about you till I started listened to Meta and you were my favorite person on it

You will be missed!
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
August 01 2013 04:42 GMT
#207
one of my favorite drinking buddies... T_T
gl dude
brieN
Profile Joined November 2011
United States158 Posts
August 01 2013 04:44 GMT
#208
last season he knocked out jaedong, guess its not a big accomplishment
check yo self befo yo wreck yo self
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
August 01 2013 04:56 GMT
#209
Thanks for lots of ideas, great games to watch and cheer for Theognis. Good luck in all your future endeavors!!!
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
dearyuna
Profile Joined December 2011
United States322 Posts
August 01 2013 04:58 GMT
#210
i'm so sad T_T
gl goodguy theo<3
@dearyuna Team SCV Life <3
Mad Scientists
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States18 Posts
August 01 2013 05:13 GMT
#211
Much love Theognis, you were loved even if the haters were to loud.
Become a stronger version of yourself
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
August 01 2013 05:18 GMT
#212
WTF! This is so sad.

You are so awesome TheOgnis T_T.

I wish you the best of luck in whatever you do, in or out of the SC scene!
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 01 2013 05:24 GMT
#213
Smart guy. Not seen much of his play but i did enjoy his input on SotG.

Best of luck with your future plans.
Rainling
Profile Joined June 2011
United States456 Posts
August 01 2013 05:27 GMT
#214
Don't listen to the trolls, you were definitely one of the best and smartest NA players. You were great on meta as well. Good luck in life!
Scones
Profile Joined June 2012
Wales99 Posts
August 01 2013 05:38 GMT
#215
Always liked you on meta. Seemed like a cool dude.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do in the future!
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
August 01 2013 05:52 GMT
#216
Oh this is sad, just read that tweet, sad news indeed.
GL in the future dood. Thx for the games.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
gOst
Profile Joined June 2011
415 Posts
August 01 2013 05:53 GMT
#217
The new WCS seems to be doing fine. Making sure there are no grassroots is a great way to grow the scene!
Patate
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada441 Posts
August 01 2013 06:25 GMT
#218
On August 01 2013 11:24 Moochlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 11:17 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:12 Moochlol wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:07 AKIRADEATH wrote:
I just don't get why we're discussing professional streamers in a thread about a retiring progamer. Destiny and Maximus aren't progamers.

I don't imagine progamers who want to be competitive in today's scene have the time to try and also be a streamer of that caliber. They turn on their stream for some ladder games, but a lot of real practice needs to be done offstream.


Well the reason I am arguing this is because I feel like most NA players are just missing a piece of the pie if they are not the TOP TOP TOP players, and feel to ignore the entertainment side of things, is just always going to result in retirement. Not to take anything away from what Theo did, dude played some sick games, and if he had fun doing it and feels its time to move on then so be it. He hasn't made an official statement so like i don't really know the real deal of why he quit. I can only assume its income related/life goals and whatever other personal stuff he may have with the game ie burnout and shit like that.


Trust me bros streaming is a legit job, it's just like Walmart, you compete against thousands or millions of others for 50 or less slots paying minimum wage.


Give me the choice of making minimum wage @ fucking Walmart or playing games, ill choose games 100%. Fuck i'd choose games over something that even decent money. Buying cars and excess bullshit just doesn't seem right to me, and in fact most people are so fixated on money. You know why? Because that's what the man wants you to do. Society forces these ideas of excess income on people. If you can support yourself, ya know eating, being clothed, roof over your head, not living in shit conditions. What in the actual fuck is wrong with that. Do you really put materialism over happiness? If so that's sad brah.


This is the most digusting post I have read in a while. No offense, but I truly believe you do not pay anything important in life ( food, clothing, rent), to say that you'd play games all day instead of doing something that pays.

Except the KESPA Koreans during the BW years , those who actually WIN tournaments, and the big LoL streamers who gets 20k viewers when streaming, no one makes a decent living out of E-sports.
Dead game.
Moochlol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States456 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 06:57:44
August 01 2013 06:44 GMT
#219
On August 01 2013 15:25 Patate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 11:24 Moochlol wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:17 Doodsmack wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:12 Moochlol wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:07 AKIRADEATH wrote:
I just don't get why we're discussing professional streamers in a thread about a retiring progamer. Destiny and Maximus aren't progamers.

I don't imagine progamers who want to be competitive in today's scene have the time to try and also be a streamer of that caliber. They turn on their stream for some ladder games, but a lot of real practice needs to be done offstream.


Well the reason I am arguing this is because I feel like most NA players are just missing a piece of the pie if they are not the TOP TOP TOP players, and feel to ignore the entertainment side of things, is just always going to result in retirement. Not to take anything away from what Theo did, dude played some sick games, and if he had fun doing it and feels its time to move on then so be it. He hasn't made an official statement so like i don't really know the real deal of why he quit. I can only assume its income related/life goals and whatever other personal stuff he may have with the game ie burnout and shit like that.


Trust me bros streaming is a legit job, it's just like Walmart, you compete against thousands or millions of others for 50 or less slots paying minimum wage.


Give me the choice of making minimum wage @ fucking Walmart or playing games, ill choose games 100%. Fuck i'd choose games over something that even decent money. Buying cars and excess bullshit just doesn't seem right to me, and in fact most people are so fixated on money. You know why? Because that's what the man wants you to do. Society forces these ideas of excess income on people. If you can support yourself, ya know eating, being clothed, roof over your head, not living in shit conditions. What in the actual fuck is wrong with that. Do you really put materialism over happiness? If so that's sad brah.


This is the most digusting post I have read in a while. No offense, but I truly believe you do not pay anything important in life ( food, clothing, rent), to say that you'd play games all day instead of doing something that pays.

Except the KESPA Koreans during the BW years , those who actually WIN tournaments, and the big LoL streamers who gets 20k viewers when streaming, no one makes a decent living out of E-sports.



LOL WTF! You say my post is the most disgusting thing you have read in awhile. Say no offense then proceed to assume I am some kid living in my parents basement or something. For your information. I'm 29, I live by myself in an apartment working a shit 9-5 job @ a Sam Ash music store selling audio equipment. I have an degree in recording engineering and am currently working some side jobs doing PA setup for live shows, I live by myself in an apartment, what the fuck is your problem. I was trying to say if I had to choose between working @ Walmart or playing games for a living for the same wage I would play games. Anything else you want to know about me? My first name? Where I live? Or do you just want to assume some bullshit and try to flame me for no reason.

Are you concerned that I don't value expensive cars and things of that nature in my life? Are you one of those super money fanatics that thinks only about how much people make? I need money to live. So I do what I have to do to make it. I am seeking one of my current goals (Mixing music for a studio) while grinding in fucking retail so I can afford to do the things I am responsible for. Like paying for my school loans and everything else that costs money in this world. Whatever your distorted stance is on people streaming for a living, keep it to yourself. this is either a troll or you are honestly just a dick.

Why don't you tell me some shit about yourself since you are so interested in what i'm doing. What do you do for a living to look down on people with such disgust if they play games for money. My discussions were about streaming for entertainment verses being strait up pro in the NA scene. I'm pretty sure Maximus has bought a house. Sounds likes he's doing just fine.

My discussions were not about "esports" only........Who are you to judge, if someone enjoys playing games and they make enough money to support themselves, what is wrong with that. Are you saying all the entertainers on twitch/youtube who make a living from it are disgusting? Or are you just doing that assuming thing again and thinking of only ESPORTS.
blaaaaaarghhhhh
Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines400 Posts
August 01 2013 07:02 GMT
#220
Damn mike why gl in the future man hope you visit here soon!
NrT.Artunit
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