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Artosis Curse vs Bomber Law: which one is stronger?
For those who doesn't know:
Artosis Curse: Whoever artosis is hyping for is losing
Bomber's Law: Bomber will always disappoint.
Corollary to Bomber's Law: If Bomber does not disappoint, it will be in order to set up a bigger disappointment later.
Last Ro8 OSL showed us that Artosis Curse beats Bomber's law.
First lost to Bomber 0:3
So what are your thoughts?
May be the older one supposed to be the srtongest?
Pseudoscientific discussion is welcome.
Thanks
Ps: BTW is the any other laws? The only other one I know is: GSL Code S has 32 players - but MVP is the one who wins it all  ,
Just another Curse was brought up: EG Curse I forgot about that one
Artosis Curse or Bomber Law
Poll: Which one is stronger?Artosis Curse (686) 82% Bomber Law (87) 10% I don't belive in neither of them (42) 5% They are equally strong (25) 3% 840 total votes Your vote: Which one is stronger? (Vote): Artosis Curse
(Vote): Bomber Law
(Vote): They are equally strong
(Vote): I don't belive in neither of them
Curse Theories so far:
Jacmert theory
+ Show Spoiler +On July 28 2013 17:27 Jacmert wrote:Guys, I've been meaning to post this, but I think I've finally got a decent psuedo-scientific model (description) of the Artosis Curse. Artosis Curse:Whenever Artosis predicts someone to win a match or a tournament, the following two factors must be evaluated. 1) How sure is Artosis in his prediction? - (0%) Not sure at all -> 40/40 sure he's right -> (100%) Adamant & hyping the guy up 2) How sure is the community in comparison? - (High agreement) Does the community fall in solid agreement with Artosis? -> (Minimal agreement) Or is the community extremely skeptical (or perhaps in disagreement with Artosis)? My theory for the Artosis Curse is that as the sureness of Artosis' prediction approaches 100% and as the sureness of the community's prediction approaches minimal agreement -> the odds of the player winning goes towards 0%. TLDR: If Artosis is sounding really sure, while the community isn't that sure, the player is probably cursed. A Couple Anecdotal Examples:WCS KR Season 1 Finals - Innovation was hyped over Soulkey and Artosis was very sure about this. The community was also quite sure, however. In the end, I think this led to a "weak Artosis curse" effect, which would be a good explanation for why InnoVation practically had the match won at 3-0 and then lost 4 straight to throw away the series. (Result: Mildly cursed) Innovation vs Bomber - I think Artosis was very sure that Innovation would crush Bomber. Community seemed quite in agreement, but I think a significant minority of Bomber fans who disagreed. In the end, Bomber 2-0'd InnoVation. (Result: Strongly cursed) First vs Bomber - Artosis sounded ABSOLUTELY sure that First was going to crush Bomber. Apparently, First had shown the best PvT that Artosis had seen recently from anyone, while Artosis didn't have much faith in Bomber's TvP. I think the community was at least split 40/40 (yes, that's the second reference in one post) or in favor of Bomber, especially after seeing him crush InnoVation. (Result: Strongly / very strongly cursed) Myungsik - Please see http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1j33t7/the_result_of_artosis_tweet_regarding_myungsik_at/ (Result: Cursed) Next for discussion:I believe there's a parallel but opposite effect we've seen in Starcraft 2. I call it the Bitterdam Buff. So far, it applies only to  iG.Jim. That man is virtually unstoppable, especially recently. At least in game - US visa application troubles and IEM disqualifications seem to be his Achilles heel. And let's not forget how he (and the other Chinese players) ended up not even being able to sign-up for / play in the WCS AM Season 1 Premier League qualifiers. But man, have you seen his games?
Zealously formula
+ Show Spoiler +On July 29 2013 03:21 Zealously wrote:After careful consideration, I have devised a formula that decides the magnitude of a blessing or curse for a Korean Starcraft II player (for a foreign player, their chances of winning are divided by 3 because foreigners tend to suck So we get a formula of NPT / (B-S)+ Show Spoiler +
Number of blessings given (alternatively number of curses given): N
Power of curse/blessing: P
Length of time (days) since last curse/blessing cast upon a player: T
The player's tendency to self-implode or show off until he dies (See Bomber or Taeja): S
Amount of players not cursed/blessed remaining in the tournament: B (likely a Boring player)
In Bomber's case, with maths behind me, I think it's safe to say that he's going to against Rain
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If Bomber wins GSL, then Bomber's law will probably never allow him to never win a game ever again. I fear for him.
Artosis Curse and Bomber's Law can never directly face each other because while Artosis Curse is a direct thing, Bomber's Law is always looking to the future, he always has time in the future to disappoint.
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I think Bomber will lose.
Not because of the "Artosis curse", but because Rain is pretty good.
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On July 28 2013 16:08 SniXSniPe wrote:
I think Bomber will lose.
Not because of the "Artosis curse", but because Rain is pretty good.
ARE YOU DOUBTING THE ARTOSIS CURSE?
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On July 28 2013 16:09 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 16:08 SniXSniPe wrote:
I think Bomber will lose.
Not because of the "Artosis curse", but because Rain is pretty good. ARE YOU DOUBTING THE ARTOSIS CURSE?
nah, just that I think Rain is a BAMF, regardless of what Artosis predicts.
...even though the last time I recall Rain and Bomber playing, Bomber won (though this was the last MLG before HotS?).
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On July 28 2013 16:08 SniXSniPe wrote:
I think Bomber will lose.
Not because of the "Artosis curse", but because Rain is pretty good.
Honestly, Rain is not that much better than First at PvT, so who knows.
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Bomber could definitely take the whole thing. I still remember the mlg where I became a bomber fan. He dropped 7-8 mules in a low econ situation vs zerg when the game was still close and there were banelings on the field. I just sat there totally baffled and then I realized Bomber plays for fame and glory, not the win. :D
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Thing is, Artosis curse only works if he really believes it. Just because he says something doesn't mean he believes it deep down inside. It can't be used for good or evil, loss or gain.
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United States23455 Posts
i think bomber is going to
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United Kingdom3482 Posts
Bomber's Law can never be wrong. If he does well it's just so he can fail even worse in the future. He will either lose 4-0 to Rain or in the finals he will lose in the most one sided 4-0 StarCraft has ever seen or will ever see.
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On July 28 2013 16:16 imallinson wrote:
Bomber's Law can never be wrong. If he does well it's just so he can fail even worse in the future.
So when he wins gsl he will fall to a 10 year slump 
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On July 28 2013 16:13 TRaFFiC wrote:
Bomber could definitely take the whole thing. I still remember the mlg where I became a bomber fan. He dropped 7-8 mules in a low econ situation vs zerg when the game was still close and there were banelings on the field. I just sat there totally baffled and then I realized Bomber plays for fame and glory, not the win. :D
Well, everyone pretty much remember Bomber vs MKP on Daybreak, final game of the GSTL between Startale and Prime.
I still have in my head that moment Bomber drop the back of MKP's main at the bottom main, dropping a ton of MULES with it.
Aaand he lost the game.
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Well now that we have the new tier of the WCS regional finals, perhaps if Bomber wins the OSL he'll just lose terribly in the regional final ro32 >__>
that or he'll retire xD
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On July 28 2013 16:12 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 16:08 SniXSniPe wrote:
I think Bomber will lose.
Not because of the "Artosis curse", but because Rain is pretty good. Honestly, Rain is not that much better than First at PvT, so who knows.
I disagree, First hasn't shown anywhere near the consistency Rain has in PvT. I think there is actually a much bigger gap than imagined.
On July 28 2013 16:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Well now that we have the new tier of the WCS regional finals, perhaps if Bomber wins the OSL he'll just lose terribly in the regional final ro32 >__>
that or he'll retire xD
Bomber lost to Sora 2-0 in the WCG qualifiers. A protoss player.
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Bomber has already ruined my liquibet, he may as well have the decency to win.
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Germany25657 Posts
The tournament will probably be cancelled to avoid this predicament.
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Bomber is one of a handful of players to have lost, not because of throws or mistakes or decisionmaking, but because he wants to showboat. It's really quite the achievement.
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Khaldor just gave Bomber the Khaldor Blessing for this OSL, now who wins!?!?!
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On July 28 2013 16:15 Fionn wrote:
i think bomber is going to
Fionn curse! :D
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both of them are killing eSportS!
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I really want to see Bomber just own it in everything for a while. He'll probably vanish after that because bomber law and be unable to play games ever again, but he really needs to win finally.
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Nothing is stronger than the Artosis curse.
Not even Cutter.
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Guys, I've been meaning to post this, but I think I've finally got a decent psuedo-scientific model (description) of the Artosis Curse.
Artosis Curse:
Whenever Artosis predicts someone to win a match or a tournament, the following two factors must be evaluated.
1) How sure is Artosis in his prediction?
- (0%) Not sure at all -> 40/40 sure he's right -> (100%) Adamant & hyping the guy up
2) How sure is the community in comparison?
- (High agreement) Does the community fall in solid agreement with Artosis? -> (Minimal agreement) Or is the community extremely skeptical (or perhaps in disagreement with Artosis)?
My theory for the Artosis Curse is that as the sureness of Artosis' prediction approaches 100% and as the sureness of the community's prediction approaches minimal agreement -> the odds of the player winning goes towards 0%.
TLDR: If Artosis is sounding really sure, while the community isn't that sure, the player is probably cursed.
A Couple Anecdotal Examples:
WCS KR Season 1 Finals - Innovation was hyped over Soulkey and Artosis was very sure about this. The community was also quite sure, however. In the end, I think this led to a "weak Artosis curse" effect, which would be a good explanation for why InnoVation practically had the match won at 3-0 and then lost 4 straight to throw away the series. (Result: Mildly cursed)
Innovation vs Bomber - I think Artosis was very sure that Innovation would crush Bomber. Community seemed quite in agreement, but I think a significant minority of Bomber fans who disagreed. In the end, Bomber 2-0'd InnoVation. (Result: Strongly cursed)
First vs Bomber - Artosis sounded ABSOLUTELY sure that First was going to crush Bomber. Apparently, First had shown the best PvT that Artosis had seen recently from anyone, while Artosis didn't have much faith in Bomber's TvP. I think the community was at least split 40/40 (yes, that's the second reference in one post) or in favor of Bomber, especially after seeing him crush InnoVation. (Result: Strongly / very strongly cursed)
Myungsik - Please see http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1j33t7/the_result_of_artosis_tweet_regarding_myungsik_at/ (Result: Cursed)
Next for discussion:
I believe there's a parallel but opposite effect we've seen in Starcraft 2. I call it the Bitterdam Buff. So far, it applies only to iG.Jim. That man is virtually unstoppable, especially recently. At least in game - US visa application troubles and IEM disqualifications seem to be his Achilles heel. And let's not forget how he (and the other Chinese players) ended up not even being able to sign-up for / play in the WCS AM Season 1 Premier League qualifiers. But man, have you seen his games?
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can you add Fionn's curse on the poll :o
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"I don't belive in neither of them"
So much wrong with this. ㅠ_ㅠ
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On July 28 2013 17:27 Jacmert wrote:Guys, I've been meaning to post this, but I think I've finally got a decent psuedo-scientific model (description) of the Artosis Curse. Artosis Curse:Whenever Artosis predicts someone to win a match or a tournament, the following two factors must be evaluated. 1) How sure is Artosis in his prediction? - (0%) Not sure at all -> 40/40 sure he's right -> (100%) Adamant & hyping the guy up 2) How sure is the community in comparison? - (High agreement) Does the community fall in solid agreement with Artosis? -> (Minimal agreement) Or is the community extremely skeptical (or perhaps in disagreement with Artosis)? My theory for the Artosis Curse is that as the sureness of Artosis' prediction approaches 100% and as the sureness of the community's prediction approaches minimal agreement -> the odds of the player winning goes towards 0%. TLDR: If Artosis is sounding really sure, while the community isn't that sure, the player is probably cursed. A Couple Anecdotal Examples:WCS KR Season 1 Finals - Innovation was hyped over Soulkey and Artosis was very sure about this. The community was also quite sure, however. In the end, I think this led to a "weak Artosis curse" effect, which would be a good explanation for why InnoVation practically had the match won at 3-0 and then lost 4 straight to throw away the series. (Result: Mildly cursed) Innovation vs Bomber - I think Artosis was very sure that Innovation would crush Bomber. Community seemed quite in agreement, but I think a significant minority of Bomber fans who disagreed. In the end, Bomber 2-0'd InnoVation. (Result: Strongly cursed) First vs Bomber - Artosis sounded ABSOLUTELY sure that First was going to crush Bomber. Apparently, First had shown the best PvT that Artosis had seen recently from anyone, while Artosis didn't have much faith in Bomber's TvP. I think the community was at least split 40/40 (yes, that's the second reference in one post) or in favor of Bomber, especially after seeing him crush InnoVation. (Result: Strongly / very strongly cursed) Myungsik - Please see http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1j33t7/the_result_of_artosis_tweet_regarding_myungsik_at/ (Result: Cursed) Next for discussion:I believe there's a parallel but opposite effect we've seen in Starcraft 2. I call it the Bitterdam Buff. So far, it applies only to iG.Jim. That man is virtually unstoppable, especially recently. At least in game - US visa application troubles and IEM disqualifications seem to be his Achilles heel. And let's not forget how he (and the other Chinese players) ended up not even being able to sign-up for / play in the WCS AM Season 1 Premier League qualifiers. But man, have you seen his games?
Double limits?
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The Artosis Curse is the strongest and most feared malevolent force in the entire Universe. It can literally turn players fingers into sausages and make entire armies vanish into thin air. Fear it!
+ Show Spoiler +And it's 'lose' 'losing' 'loser'. No idea where this horrible internet 'oo' spelling of the word 'lose' has come from, but it needs to be stomped on before it spreads.... Oh no, am I too late?
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On July 28 2013 17:37 iKill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 17:27 Jacmert wrote:Guys, I've been meaning to post this, but I think I've finally got a decent psuedo-scientific model (description) of the Artosis Curse. Artosis Curse:Whenever Artosis predicts someone to win a match or a tournament, the following two factors must be evaluated. 1) How sure is Artosis in his prediction? - (0%) Not sure at all -> 40/40 sure he's right -> (100%) Adamant & hyping the guy up 2) How sure is the community in comparison? - (High agreement) Does the community fall in solid agreement with Artosis? -> (Minimal agreement) Or is the community extremely skeptical (or perhaps in disagreement with Artosis)? My theory for the Artosis Curse is that as the sureness of Artosis' prediction approaches 100% and as the sureness of the community's prediction approaches minimal agreement -> the odds of the player winning goes towards 0%. TLDR: If Artosis is sounding really sure, while the community isn't that sure, the player is probably cursed. A Couple Anecdotal Examples:WCS KR Season 1 Finals - Innovation was hyped over Soulkey and Artosis was very sure about this. The community was also quite sure, however. In the end, I think this led to a "weak Artosis curse" effect, which would be a good explanation for why InnoVation practically had the match won at 3-0 and then lost 4 straight to throw away the series. (Result: Mildly cursed) Innovation vs Bomber - I think Artosis was very sure that Innovation would crush Bomber. Community seemed quite in agreement, but I think a significant minority of Bomber fans who disagreed. In the end, Bomber 2-0'd InnoVation. (Result: Strongly cursed) First vs Bomber - Artosis sounded ABSOLUTELY sure that First was going to crush Bomber. Apparently, First had shown the best PvT that Artosis had seen recently from anyone, while Artosis didn't have much faith in Bomber's TvP. I think the community was at least split 40/40 (yes, that's the second reference in one post) or in favor of Bomber, especially after seeing him crush InnoVation. (Result: Strongly / very strongly cursed) Myungsik - Please see http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1j33t7/the_result_of_artosis_tweet_regarding_myungsik_at/ (Result: Cursed) Next for discussion:I believe there's a parallel but opposite effect we've seen in Starcraft 2. I call it the Bitterdam Buff. So far, it applies only to iG.Jim. That man is virtually unstoppable, especially recently. At least in game - US visa application troubles and IEM disqualifications seem to be his Achilles heel. And let's not forget how he (and the other Chinese players) ended up not even being able to sign-up for / play in the WCS AM Season 1 Premier League qualifiers. But man, have you seen his games? Double limits?
More like double asymptotes  Imagine two graphs, and if in each graph you're getting closer to the limit/asymptote, then you know you're getting into the danger territory. Kind of like hitting the red-line of an engine's RPM, ha ha.
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Dont forget, CLIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. He is the best player ever from winning the first GSL to the most recent iem without dropping a game or a unit.
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How I wish to see Artosis's face when he sees this thread I know he LOVES the Artosis Curse discussions
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On July 28 2013 17:59 Nirel wrote:
How I wish to see Artosis's face when he sees this thread I know he LOVES the Artosis Curse discussions
I think Artosis doesn't read TL anymore since a long time.
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On July 28 2013 16:16 imallinson wrote:
Bomber's Law can never be wrong. If he does well it's just so he can fail even worse in the future. He will either lose 4-0 to Rain or in the finals he will lose in the most one sided 4-0 StarCraft has ever seen or will ever see.
Worse than InCa v Nestea!?
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Gonna have to go with the Artosis Curse, history speaks for itself.
And just a heads up to OP - lose has 1 o, not 2. Lose and loose are separate words with very different meanings.
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On July 28 2013 18:02 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 17:59 Nirel wrote:
How I wish to see Artosis's face when he sees this thread I know he LOVES the Artosis Curse discussions I think Artosis doesn't read TL anymore since a long time.
One can hope.
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Obviously Artosis Curse is stronger than Bomber's Law, as the latter only affects Bomber and his opponents, while Artosis can literally change the outcome of any event in the universe. I am quite sure that Artosis predicted Romney to win over Obama, Apocalypse to happen at Y2K, Diablo 3 to be a better game than D2, and you can see what happened to those...
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On July 28 2013 18:09 Cornix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 16:16 imallinson wrote:
Bomber's Law can never be wrong. If he does well it's just so he can fail even worse in the future. He will either lose 4-0 to Rain or in the finals he will lose in the most one sided 4-0 StarCraft has ever seen or will ever see. Worse than InCa v Nestea!?
nothing can top that...
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there is no way Bomber will beat Rain ..even with magical spells lol
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On July 28 2013 18:09 Cornix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 16:16 imallinson wrote:
Bomber's Law can never be wrong. If he does well it's just so he can fail even worse in the future. He will either lose 4-0 to Rain or in the finals he will lose in the most one sided 4-0 StarCraft has ever seen or will ever see. Worse than InCa v Nestea!?
no
never
ever...
On July 28 2013 18:30 shin_toss wrote:
there is no way Bomber will beat Rain ..even with magical spells lol
i guarantee you that everyone ever said the same thing when MVPDream smashed rain in Code A
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On July 28 2013 18:20 LeeDawg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 18:09 Cornix wrote:On July 28 2013 16:16 imallinson wrote:
Bomber's Law can never be wrong. If he does well it's just so he can fail even worse in the future. He will either lose 4-0 to Rain or in the finals he will lose in the most one sided 4-0 StarCraft has ever seen or will ever see. Worse than InCa v Nestea!? nothing can top that...
"Surely he will not expect DTs a 4th time in a row ! "
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Artosis was talking about who you would see win the OSL and then he said
Bomber nahhhhhhh.... and then the curse started...
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I think  Bomber will win vs Rain and then go up 3-0 in the finals before getting reverse swept in the most insanely one sided games in GSL OSL history.
The ultimate extreme that bombers law can provide.
Artosis Curse is defiantly the stronger one though. Innovation may never win a GSL/OSL again because of it.
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Damn i saw this post a long time coming haha
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On July 28 2013 18:09 LostAncient wrote:
Gonna have to go with the Artosis Curse, history speaks for itself.
And just a heads up to OP - lose has 1 o, not 2. Lose and loose are separate words with very different meanings.
Realy???? Shit. Hmm. I was loosing instead losing for the last 15 years. 
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the only weakness in Rain's PvT is its predictability, he's stylistic to a fault and always predictably defensive, but my god is his play solid - and more often than not hi rock solid play overcomes his predictability
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Bombers smacked down Rain pretty hard in the past, I seem to recall a pretty one sided series after rains championship win... He's always been leading the way vs Protoss, but I'm afraid sometimes he shows up yawning and nukes himself... There's nobody he can't beat, but then he can lose to pretty much anyone too... I dare to dream, with Artosis against him it's possible!
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Someone should definitely tally the amount of shit calls Artosis has made these last 3 years.
I'm not one to believe in these stupid "curses", but with Artosis's ratio, it's really difficult to deny that he has some very bad juju.
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Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe Artosis is just a bad judge of skill when it comes to players?
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On July 28 2013 16:09 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 16:08 SniXSniPe wrote:
I think Bomber will lose.
Not because of the "Artosis curse", but because Rain is pretty good. ARE YOU DOUBTING THE ARTOSIS CURSE?
Artosis predicted Rain to win vs Supernova and he did
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On July 28 2013 17:03 dooraven wrote:Fionn curse! :D
It was proved in some earlier GSLs that Artosis Curse is stronger than Fionn's.
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On July 28 2013 19:21 Darkthorn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 17:03 dooraven wrote:On July 28 2013 16:15 Fionn wrote:
i think bomber is going to Fionn curse! :D It was proved in some earlier GSLs that Artosis Curse is stronger than Fionn's.
but what happens if bombers law teams up with fionn curse?
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On July 28 2013 19:31 Conut wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 19:21 Darkthorn wrote:On July 28 2013 17:03 dooraven wrote:On July 28 2013 16:15 Fionn wrote:
i think bomber is going to Fionn curse! :D It was proved in some earlier GSLs that Artosis Curse is stronger than Fionn's. but what happens if bombers law teams up with fionn curse?
Who the hell is Fionn?
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he already lost to a gold
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Fionn curse is much stronger.
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If he wins this GSL, I hope people will bury the Bomber's curse forever. In other cases...
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I still think Artosis' curse > Bomber's law + Fionn curse
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On July 28 2013 19:45 SoSexy wrote:
If he wins this GSL, I hope people will bury the Bomber's curse forever. In other cases...
Nah, it just means he'll drop straight to code B next season.
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On July 28 2013 19:59 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 19:45 SoSexy wrote:
If he wins this GSL, I hope people will bury the Bomber's curse forever. In other cases... Nah, it just means he'll drop straight to code B next season.
It is known
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On July 28 2013 16:45 Dismay wrote:
Bomber has already ruined my liquibet, he may as well have the decency to win.
Nah the electricity will just go out and no one will ever know which law is stronger.
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The real curse for me is that whenever I watch an amazing player play, they always seem to lose when I watch. Not just in SC2, in League, "real" sports, etc. etc. It makes me scared to watch anything. But I want to see Bomber bomb so I think Bomber's Law!!!
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On July 28 2013 19:15 Grovbolle wrote:
Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe Artosis is just a bad judge of skill when it comes to players?
Has anyone ever considered the fact that the community blows shit like this out of proportion like crazy? This Ro8 Artosis got 2/4 right for example. While that is not a great great ratio, it's also not that bad. For all the times where he was wrong there are literally dozens of times where he was right.
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On July 29 2013 03:00 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 19:15 Grovbolle wrote:
Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe Artosis is just a bad judge of skill when it comes to players? Has anyone ever considered the fact that the community blows shit like this out of proportion like crazy? This Ro8 Artosis got 2/4 right for example. While that is not a great great ratio, it's also not that bad. For all the times where he was wrong there are literally dozens of times where he was right.
.... which is not very hard to achieve when always rooting for the player with the best current form....
imho bomber will roflstomp rain just like he stomped first, then roflstomp innovation in the first 3 games of the finals. artosis will be hyping up bomber as the best player ever after these impressive wins. then, innovation reversesweeps bomber to take the title, so that artosis' curse and bombers law are fulfilled at the same time, plus innovation reverses his own finals story. (3-0 into 3-4 last gsl.)
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On July 29 2013 03:00 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 19:15 Grovbolle wrote:
Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe Artosis is just a bad judge of skill when it comes to players? Has anyone ever considered the fact that the community blows shit like this out of proportion like crazy? This Ro8 Artosis got 2/4 right for example. While that is not a great great ratio, it's also not that bad. For all the times where he was wrong there are literally dozens of times where he was right.
Its not really about predictions every dingle game. its more like who is he hyping for.
Like First - The best P atm, best PvT etc
and then Bum. Bomber crushes him
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I love Bomber dearly but his curse will stand the test of time. Today he lost the RSL V finals  Rain will beat him 4-2. A Bomber/INnoVation final would be SICK CITY though
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What if Bomber's Law IS the Artosis Curse? I have a sneaking suspicion that all the times Bomber's Law came into effect was when Artosis picked him to win.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
After careful consideration, I have devised a formula that decides the magnitude of a blessing or curse for a Korean Starcraft II player (for a foreign player, their chances of winning are divided by 3 because foreigners tend to suck
So we get a formula of
NPT / (B-T)
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Number of blessings given (alternatively number of curses given): N
Power of curse/blessing: P
Length of time (days) since last curse/blessing cast upon a player: T
The player's tendency to self-implode or show off until he dies (See Bomber or Taeja): S
Amount of players not cursed/blessed remaining in the tournament: B (likely a Boring player)
In Bomber's case, with maths behind me, I think it's safe to say that he's going to against Rain
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On July 29 2013 03:17 SorrowShine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 03:00 robson1 wrote:On July 28 2013 19:15 Grovbolle wrote:
Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe Artosis is just a bad judge of skill when it comes to players? Has anyone ever considered the fact that the community blows shit like this out of proportion like crazy? This Ro8 Artosis got 2/4 right for example. While that is not a great great ratio, it's also not that bad. For all the times where he was wrong there are literally dozens of times where he was right. Its not really about predictions every dingle game. its more like who is he hyping for. Like First - The best P atm, best PvT etc and then Bum. Bomber crushes him
Artosis is just the kind of guy who overhypes stuff because he get's exited, but this artosis curse stuff is just blown way out of proportion. Although it was kind of annoying how he just shat on bomber all the time.
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On July 29 2013 03:22 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 03:17 SorrowShine wrote:On July 29 2013 03:00 robson1 wrote:On July 28 2013 19:15 Grovbolle wrote:
Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe Artosis is just a bad judge of skill when it comes to players? Has anyone ever considered the fact that the community blows shit like this out of proportion like crazy? This Ro8 Artosis got 2/4 right for example. While that is not a great great ratio, it's also not that bad. For all the times where he was wrong there are literally dozens of times where he was right. Its not really about predictions every dingle game. its more like who is he hyping for. Like First - The best P atm, best PvT etc and then Bum. Bomber crushes him Artosis is just the kind of guy who overhypes stuff because he get's exited, but this artosis curse stuff is just blown way out of proportion. Although it was kind of annoying how he just shat on bomber all the time.
People are just having fun with it, it's completely harmless silliness, just like the Unofficial World Champion stuff (except that stuff is super serious!)
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There are those who doubt the Artosis Curse???
BLASPHEMY I SAY
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I think the title of the thread is wrong, because it is not the moment to ask this question.
For the moment, the Artosis curse and the Bomber Law might actually still be working together towards making Bomber an invincible man.
The reason is simple, no one ever knows when the Bomber Law stops piling up the success in order to unleash the infinite stream of disappointment. Right now, we are reaching a level that might lead to a disaster like nothing we have ever known. If it keeps on going like that, we might just witness the end of time on the OSL finals ...
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People need to get this straight. In order for bomber to lose it needs to be a dissapointment to all his fans. Loosing to Rain would be expected by many given rains PvT, therefor i predict bomber to advance to the finals, to set up the sickest of disapointments that will haunt the ST house the year out -> now that is bombers law
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On July 29 2013 04:11 ColtraneL wrote:
I think the title of the thread is wrong, because it is not the moment to ask this question.
For the moment, the Artosis curse and the Bomber Law might actually still be working together towards making Bomber an invincible man.
The reason is simple, no one ever knows when the Bomber Law stops piling up the success in order to unleash the infinite stream of disappointment. Right now, we are reaching a level that might lead to a disaster like nothing we have ever known. If it keeps on going like that, we might just witness the end of time on the OSL finals ...
Quoted because it supported my previous post right above this one
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Although I used to find it a little amusing, this "artosis curse" nonsense has been blown well out of proportions. SC2 is a game in which lesser player often win games or even series, and because of that it's very hard to make predictions. Artosis predictions are always in line with who "should" win, no one is arguing that. Whenever he's wrong there's a new reddit posts and people add it to their subconscious list of evidence of the existence of the artosis curse. Whenever he's right noone notices because "duh, his prediction was one that anyone would've made". Maybe he's been a little unlucky recently, but that's statistical variation for you.
Sorry for being such a bore, but this has lost all proportions (because of the inability for the human mind to fully grasp the complex world of probability).
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Realistically I don't believe in either, but if any type of curse actually exists its the Artosis Curse.
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Artosis curse any-day anytime.
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With Bombers 3-0 over First in the Ro8 Artosis is probably going to predict him to beat Rain.
Prepare for the most spectacular Bomber blow up in history as these 2 forces of nature combine into something even a probe rush every game from Rain won't be able to stop.
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You know why there is an Artosis curse and Fionn curse? 'Cuz they predict the most, and Starcraft 2 is pretty hard to predict.
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On July 29 2013 05:22 rift wrote:
You know why there is an Artosis curse and Fionn curse? 'Cuz they predict the most, and Starcraft 2 is pretty hard to predict.
Actually it's because they get a lot of shit wrong
+ Show Spoiler +Not that anyone blames them most of the time, but still
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On July 29 2013 05:25 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 05:22 rift wrote:
You know why there is an Artosis curse and Fionn curse? 'Cuz they predict the most, and Starcraft 2 is pretty hard to predict. Actually it's because they get a lot of shit wrong + Show Spoiler +Not that anyone blames them most of the time, but still
It's really easy to make a lot of incorrect predictions when you predict people with absolute confidence in the Ro16 all of the time. Artosis's love of hyperbole based upon a limited amount of recent data is what has generated "The Artosis Curse."
By the way, Rain's toast.
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well.. there are two possabilitys i see...
the world just stops the second the first game beginns
both of em arestuck in draw games for eternity
all in all it should be interesting to see what happens
but if nothing of the above things happens, artosis curse > bombers law
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What is Fionns curse? and who is Fionn
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I don't think the artosis curse is actually real, but Bomber's law is.
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should add the hot_bid jinx to the list
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On July 29 2013 08:11 TT1 wrote:
shit
care to elaborate?
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Just looking at this thread is that it's time for Bomber's law to apply. The hype is almost at maximum level. It´s like an apocalyptic prophecy about to happen. The question is not if bomber's law will happen, but when.
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On July 29 2013 03:21 Zealously wrote:After careful consideration, I have devised a formula that decides the magnitude of a blessing or curse for a Korean Starcraft II player (for a foreign player, their chances of winning are divided by 3 because foreigners tend to suck So we get a formula of NPT / (B-T)+ Show Spoiler +
Number of blessings given (alternatively number of curses given): N
Power of curse/blessing: P
Length of time (days) since last curse/blessing cast upon a player: T
The player's tendency to self-implode or show off until he dies (See Bomber or Taeja): S
Amount of players not cursed/blessed remaining in the tournament: B (likely a Boring player)
In Bomber's case, with maths behind me, I think it's safe to say that he's going to against Rain
He's going to what against Rain? I need to know man, using these calculations for my liquibets.
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On July 29 2013 08:16 mostevil wrote:care to elaborate?
Hot_Bid was preemptively congratulating Snute on winning after he took 3 games in a row, then HuK won 3 in a row and TT1 made that post about the Hot_Bid Jinx, then Snute pulled it off and won.
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On July 29 2013 08:16 Godwrath wrote:
Just looking at this thread is that it's time for Bomber's law to apply. The hype is almost at maximum level. It´s like an apocalyptic prophecy about to happen. The question is not if bomber's law will happen, but when.
Maybe it's not going to happen yet, he will win this OSL and go onto the grand final riding high on a wave. Everyone think's he's unbeatable, he even improves his TvZ to the point that you can't tell which matchup is his best. He carves a path straight to the final without even looking like he's going to lose a game. He goes into the final against hyvaa and easily goes up 3-0, in game 4 it looks like it's going to be a clean sweep, he's in hyvaa's natural killing everything, his marines are dancing, the manner mules start dropping, then he starts spamming stim on his marines and they all die to banelings as there are too many mules in the way for them to split, somehow hyvaa comes back to win that game.
What then follows are some of the worst executed 6pools and 1 base baneling and roach builds that we've ever seen and somehow Bomber keeps dying to them. In the final game hyvaa goes for an overpool into 11 drone rush and Bomber accidently cancels the depot in his walloff and mismicros his SCV's to lose.
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well when it comes to curses. If you mix two curses they usually go wild and create a new more chaotic curse. But since it is Bombers law, there should be no direct interaction between those 2 phenomena.
The curse though gets stronger the more convinced Artosis is. The law is always in effect after Bomber played well and acts independent on any curse. But the law does work based on Bombers play. The curse itself affects the targeted player and makes them play bad.
So we might have already missed Bombers Law several times actually. Simply because his opponent played so bad because of the Artosis curse, that no one noticed the law working.
So as long as Artosis curses every second opponent of Bomber, the law will jump into effect, but the curse will make the opponent just play worse. Afterwards the law is unimportant for the next game as Bomber already played bad.
The disappointment part of the law cannot work currently, because everyone is expecting this and thus there will not be disappointment.
Curses have one thing to them though, they are fueled by superstition. The moment you accept them as the truth you don't give them energy anymore. The Artosis curse might be on his last moments this seasons. I would say the moment Artosis gets doubts and thinks it might be true, then the curse will fall inactive.
Fun fact: The more the people belief in the Artosis curse, the weaker it gets. People believing in the Artosis curse to be stronger then Bombers Law will trigger the disappointment part of the law.
The wheels of fate are turning again, thanks to this thread.
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Where's the Kim Carrier curse option?
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Bomber won an MLG.
Thus bomber's law is not true.
But, the Artosis curse is less true because NesTea won three GSLs and if anyone rooted for NesTea it was Artosis.
Therefore Bomber's law is stronger.
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I only believe in fionn's curse
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On July 29 2013 09:17 tomsKa wrote:
Bomber won an MLG.
Thus bomber's law is not true.
But, the Artosis curse is less true because NesTea won three GSLs and if anyone rooted for NesTea it was Artosis.
Therefore Bomber's law is stronger.
So has Huk and MarineKing. MLG is not a barometer of whether or not curses are real.
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On July 29 2013 09:39 dinosrwar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 09:17 tomsKa wrote:
Bomber won an MLG.
Thus bomber's law is not true.
But, the Artosis curse is less true because NesTea won three GSLs and if anyone rooted for NesTea it was Artosis.
Therefore Bomber's law is stronger. So has Huk and MarineKing. MLG is not a barometer of whether or not curses are real.
This is no curse! Bomber's Law should always apply, and at a tournament like MLG with lots of rounds for him to blow up on the fact that he made it to win one would prove this law to be less rigid than "law" might imply.
On the other hand, MKP might have YellOw fever
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Sorry to say, but Bomber losing to Life and Sora is the beginning of the end.
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On July 28 2013 19:34 SorrowShine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 19:31 Conut wrote:On July 28 2013 19:21 Darkthorn wrote:On July 28 2013 17:03 dooraven wrote:On July 28 2013 16:15 Fionn wrote:
i think bomber is going to Fionn curse! :D It was proved in some earlier GSLs that Artosis Curse is stronger than Fionn's. but what happens if bombers law teams up with fionn curse? Who the hell is Fionn?
Who the hell is SorrowShine?
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artosis curse is just to powerful ..
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On July 29 2013 09:58 tomsKa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 09:39 dinosrwar wrote:On July 29 2013 09:17 tomsKa wrote:
Bomber won an MLG.
Thus bomber's law is not true.
But, the Artosis curse is less true because NesTea won three GSLs and if anyone rooted for NesTea it was Artosis.
Therefore Bomber's law is stronger. So has Huk and MarineKing. MLG is not a barometer of whether or not curses are real. This is no curse! Bomber's Law should always apply, and at a tournament like MLG with lots of rounds for him to blow up on the fact that he made it to win one would prove this law to be less rigid than "law" might imply. On the other hand, MKP might have YellOw fever
also JD may also have YellOw fever ATM
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On July 29 2013 08:21 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 08:16 mostevil wrote:On July 29 2013 08:11 TT1 wrote:
shit care to elaborate? Hot_Bid was preemptively congratulating Snute on winning after he took 3 games in a row, then HuK won 3 in a row and TT1 made that post about the Hot_Bid Jinx, then Snute pulled it off and won.
Not so much as Hot_Bid's Jinx as much as it is Hot_Bid's Scare.
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On July 29 2013 08:21 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 08:16 mostevil wrote:On July 29 2013 08:11 TT1 wrote:
shit care to elaborate? Hot_Bid was preemptively congratulating Snute on winning after he took 3 games in a row, then HuK won 3 in a row and TT1 made that post about the Hot_Bid Jinx, then Snute pulled it off and won.
Honestly at this point I think I have seen more people when up 3-0 in a Bo7 lose the next 3 and pull it off then I have seen win game 4. I don't know why they always have to almost collapse but its weird and the only time I think ive seen total collapse is Innovation.
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On July 28 2013 16:45 Dismay wrote:
Bomber has already ruined my liquibet, he may as well have the decency to win.
This. One thousand times this.
I love Rain and I'll be barracking for him (he is on the best team after all), but at this point Bomber might as well just win the GSL. For the record I have picked him to lose every time that he has won this season. It's starting to irritate me.
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On July 29 2013 12:07 althaz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 16:45 Dismay wrote:
Bomber has already ruined my liquibet, he may as well have the decency to win. This. One thousand times this. I love Rain and I'll be barracking for him (he is on the best team after all), but at this point Bomber might as well just win the GSL. For the record I have picked him to lose every time that he has won this season. It's starting to irritate me.
Please keep picking him to lose
I've also discovered that whenever I watch PRIME players play, they lose. Every single time I watch MKP he loses. When I don't watch him, he wins. Hence I've stopped watching anyone from Prime if I could haha
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On July 29 2013 09:58 tomsKa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 09:39 dinosrwar wrote:On July 29 2013 09:17 tomsKa wrote:
Bomber won an MLG.
Thus bomber's law is not true.
But, the Artosis curse is less true because NesTea won three GSLs and if anyone rooted for NesTea it was Artosis.
Therefore Bomber's law is stronger. So has Huk and MarineKing. MLG is not a barometer of whether or not curses are real. This is no curse! Bomber's Law should always apply, and at a tournament like MLG with lots of rounds for him to blow up on the fact that he made it to win one would prove this law to be less rigid than "law" might imply. On the other hand, MKP might have YellOw fever
Nah, Bomber's Law is ongoing, it isn't restricted to one tournament. Any time he wins it's just to build up hype so the letdown later is more intense.
For example, Bomber is allowed to win the OSL without breaking Bomber's Law, since that would hype him up to the maximum level, he just has to then lose to a foreigner or something at WCS World for maximum disappointment otherwise I would really be worried.
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I have to say, as far as the debate of Artosis Curse vs. Bomber's Law is concerned, most of the evidence presented so far is actually not relevant.
All Bomber's Law states is that he will fail in proportion to whatever success he has. The more successful he is, the more disappointing he will be later.
So, it can some into play at any point. We do not yet know if Bomber's Law has applied to any of the matches such as First vs. Bomber in which the Artosis Curse was also relevant. Therefore, we cannot argue yet about which one is stronger. We must watch for the catastrophic phenomena* that will occur when Bomber's Law enacts itself in contradiction to the Artosis Curse, and then we will know that we can compare the two.
*Tasteless will most likely have a stroke, Artosis will spontaneously combust due to the power of the Curse suddenly flowing out of him in full force, John the Translator will likely be possessed by the powerful demons which oversee the Curse as he cries in a corner and then will turn into a demonic, homicidal maniac powered by the spirit of Yu-Gi-Oh cards, and Mr. Chae's head will explode from the result of an extreme aneurism from the stress of having to bear the brunt of more GomTvT jokes and the drop in viewership that will accompany them.
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I think most people posting here know it deep down, and a couple people have even said it, but both the Artoisis curse and Bombers legendary inconsistency are explainable.
For Artoisis, he starts the hype train for a lot of players after they show one good performance or strategy. The thing is, that happens a lot of the time, and most of the time these players don't go on to dominate, but just fade into obscurity. Top players come and go for sure, but betting for those already at the top is much safer than betting on some up and comer. That isn't how Artosis operates however, so his predictions notoriously fail.
Bombers law is a little harder to explain, and I might be grasping at straws here, but he has sort of a volatile playstyle. It is easy to see how his yolo scv pulls can work well when he is making good decisions, but work poorly when he is in a bad state of mind and playing poorly, not to mention the potential they have to fail no matter how good he is playing. Not to mention a large part of the time when he was playing mediocre occurred during the time when zerg was doing well, and while not a JYPvT-esque weakness, TvZ is historically his weakest matchup.
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I actually prefer this form of Bomber's Law:
Bomber's Law: Bomber will always disappoint.
Corollary to Bomber's Law: If Bomber does not disappoint, it will be in order to set up a bigger disappointment later.
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On July 30 2013 19:35 eusoc wrote:I actually prefer this form of Bomber's Law: Show nested quote +Bomber's Law: Bomber will always disappoint.
Corollary to Bomber's Law: If Bomber does not disappoint, it will be in order to set up a bigger disappointment later.
The disappointment will come when he quits SC3 at an age of 40 after dominating the whole time before. And he is not voted as president of the galaxy.
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If you doubt the artosis curse. the curse hits you!
You will not see it coming.
You will not feel it happending.
You will not survive the artosis curse.
PS. Artosis beats all curses togethere. im sorry but its that powerful. you can only fear it.
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Ok, I have skimmed the thread and this has not been addressed:
How does the EG curse factor into this? Has the EG curse meet with Bombers law while under the shadow of the Artosis curse? How many progamers were destroyed when this happened?
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The Artosis curse is just too powerful. It takes players their whole careers to recover from it. D=
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On July 28 2013 16:12 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 16:08 SniXSniPe wrote:
I think Bomber will lose.
Not because of the "Artosis curse", but because Rain is pretty good. Honestly, Rain is not that much better than First at PvT, so who knows.
See, I'm not so sure. Against Fantasy, First was playing what I consider to be the best PvT in HoTS, but he looked shaky vs Bomber. I do think Bomber can win though, his TvP is better than Supernova's, who nearly took Rain out
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The Engine curse is the Korean Artosis curse.
Engine predicts "Bomber's performance so far is impressive, but the championship is probably pushing it" to which Bomber replied "Thank you".
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Ask Kim Carrier's prediction. Pick the opposite.
gg
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On July 29 2013 12:02 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 08:21 Daralii wrote:On July 29 2013 08:16 mostevil wrote:On July 29 2013 08:11 TT1 wrote:
shit care to elaborate? Hot_Bid was preemptively congratulating Snute on winning after he took 3 games in a row, then HuK won 3 in a row and TT1 made that post about the Hot_Bid Jinx, then Snute pulled it off and won. Honestly at this point I think I have seen more people when up 3-0 in a Bo7 lose the next 3 and pull it off then I have seen win game 4. I don't know why they always have to almost collapse but its weird and the only time I think ive seen total collapse is Innovation.
DRG life Iron squid 2
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On July 28 2013 16:12 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 16:08 SniXSniPe wrote:
I think Bomber will lose.
Not because of the "Artosis curse", but because Rain is pretty good. Honestly, Rain is not that much better than First at PvT, so who knows.
Actually, I think Rain is a far more consistent player in terms of PvT.
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On July 30 2013 20:53 dyDrawer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 16:12 Noocta wrote:On July 28 2013 16:08 SniXSniPe wrote:
I think Bomber will lose.
Not because of the "Artosis curse", but because Rain is pretty good. Honestly, Rain is not that much better than First at PvT, so who knows. Actually, I think Rain is a far more consistent player in terms of PvT.
Rain has proven his skills over a longer time, with ups and downs, while First had stronger showings recently. It´s impossible to say, that´s why it´s so exciting.
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The Artosis Curse just took down Innovation, who Tastosis has called the best in the world. That's really impressive.
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The Artosis curse is a danger for Esports.
Today Artosis showed us how powerfull it has become : he cursed and destroyed Innovation, the best player the world.
If Innovation fell, anyone can.
No one is safe as long as you're playing under Artosis radar...
If Innovation wants his curse to be lifted, he needs to direct Artosis focus somewhere else, to keep low for awhile.
He should play on Go4SC2 for a few seasons.
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So taking all of the above into account, Bomber will crush rain on Thursday and Maru will be WCS KR champion going 4-0 in the tvt finals yes
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On July 30 2013 20:08 Plansix wrote:
Ok, I have skimmed the thread and this has not been addressed:
How does the EG curse factor into this? Has the EG curse meet with Bombers law while under the shadow of the Artosis curse? How many progamers were destroyed when this happened?
gratz, now we need an "Artosis Curse vs Bomber Law vs EG Curse" thread...
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I think that OSL has just proven that the Artosis curse is real...
Shame on all you non believers!
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Poor Innovation. Never knew what hit him.
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At this point I truly believe that if Artosis casted a game of, say, Grubby vs some random gold league player and predicted Grubby to win...the gold player would emerge triumphant in a best of 7.
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I think I found out why Mvp is losing tournies left and right then comes out with a huge showing when it matters the most. It is to avoid the Artosis curse. I knew Mvp was the smartest player! If he attracted too much attention, then Artosis would predict his victory and that would be the end of him.
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It's funny because Artosis actually has a better track record compared to Kim Carrier but at the rate SC2 is going it won't be long before Dan overthrows him.
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Who is Artosis cheering up in the Rain vs Bomber? Did he stated his position to this semi?
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On July 31 2013 04:36 Shardz wrote:
I think I found out why Mvp is losing tournies left and right then comes out with a huge showing when it matters the most. It is to avoid the Artosis curse. I knew Mvp was the smartest player! If he attracted too much attention, then Artosis would predict his victory and that would be the end of him.
That would actually be an interesting scenario, because Mvp wins big when everyone counts him out. If Artosis predicts that he will win, he will be cursed, and everyone will count him out, at which point his Mvp magic should kick in and make him win.
What we need is a Bomber vs Mvp season final to see how those three interact.
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On July 28 2013 16:19 Hryul wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 16:16 imallinson wrote:
Bomber's Law can never be wrong. If he does well it's just so he can fail even worse in the future. So when he wins gsl he will fall to a 10 year slump
No, that's silly.
He'll implode in the booth, ruining esports forever as human combustion becomes linked with video games.
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What if artosis hypes for bomber ? double nail in the coffin
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Artosis Curse is like Pele of football. Not because he is the best, but because Pele's predictions are always "not so accurate".
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I think the Artosis Curse will win out on this occasion simply because of the corollary to Bomber's Law. If it's true that Bomber always succeeds to set up an even bigger disappoint, then Bomber will succeed on this occasion because it will mean setting up the biggest disappointment of all - losing to Maru in the finals.
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On August 01 2013 13:24 Fix637 wrote:
I think the Artosis Curse will win out on this occasion simply because of the corollary to Bomber's Law. If it's true that Bomber always succeeds to set up an even bigger disappoint, then Bomber will succeed on this occasion because it will mean setting up the biggest disappointment of all - losing to Maru in the finals.
That is very true everyone is hyped up far too much over this match that they totally ignore Bombers 2nd law If Bomber does not disappoint, it will be in order to set up a bigger disappointment later, so either way he's screwed. If Bomber wins against rain it 100% that he loses to Maru sadly.
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the innovation chesse sickness
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How the hell did Nestea ever win a GSL?
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On August 01 2013 17:17 TheSwamp wrote:
How the hell did Nestea ever win a GSL?
He's the creator of the universe, no curse can harm him.
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On July 31 2013 05:57 MadJack wrote:
What if artosis hypes for bomber ? double nail in the coffin
Bomber will lead 3-0 and then proceeds to lose 0-4.
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Why isn't there an option for the Fionn curse? It's both more ancient and more powerful than any other force in Starcraft+ Show Spoiler +.
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On August 01 2013 17:38 Thruth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 17:17 TheSwamp wrote:
How the hell did Nestea ever win a GSL? He's the creator of the universe, no curse can harm him.
We all live in a Nestea's dream..
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Guess last match shows which curse is stronger... :'(
I'm going to cry in the corner and vow to never defy Bomber's Law again
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Ok,, so Artosis curse is Rain 4 - 1 Maru for the finals.
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well, Bomber didnt dissappoint. rain just was better. And its not like Bomber really played abysmal. Like we would expect based on the bomber law. Anyway gg
So now the ultimate test would be for maru crush the rain.
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Bomber's Law applies!
The Artosis Curse wasn't in full effect though. Artosis was about 60% sure that Rain would win, and the community was pretty much split, so Bomber's Law won out.
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Just let you guys know
We can guess who won
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The artosis curse is so consistent that it's just hilarious at this point.
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From Alicia to Hyun to San. couldn't get any better.
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aaaaa. It's cracking me up. What a curse
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It was as a respond during the semi-finals to IdrA's tweet "Plz artosis curse San I want a zerg in the finals"
But because the artosis curse cannot be used on purpose san still beat Hyun and then obv lost in the finals.
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maybe we can get artosis to back marijuana prohibition, use those powers for the good of all mankind
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On August 12 2013 07:21 EiBmoZ wrote:
maybe we can get artosis to back marijuana prohibition, use those powers for the good of all mankind
Artosis curse only works when Artosis zealously believes it himself.
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There is no way Bomber is winning this. Ever.
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On August 25 2013 22:43 The_Templar wrote:
There is no way Bomber is winning this. Ever.
Well, looks like he just did.
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On August 26 2013 00:30 Siqx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2013 22:43 The_Templar wrote:
There is no way Bomber is winning this. Ever. Well, looks like he just did.
uh
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Can we be honest and say that bomber's law hasn't really applied for ages, he's just been really good, but often not good enough. Now he's good enough, so he won. Story lines make the tournament way more interesting, but this Bomber's Law one has been used every damn time someone talks about him and it hasn't been relevant almost since its inception
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+ Show Spoiler +Well it looks like Bomber has finally overcome the Bomber Law. The last instance it applied was WCS Season 2 Premiere. Now that he's won the season finals, no one can say anything about the Bomber Law now.
Artosis Curse still reigns supreme, of course.
Now we just need MarineKing to finally overcome the Kong Curse.
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I think he just won to disappoint in the overall finals even more.
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/\ Yeah, someone in the LIve Report thread that if Bomber's Law is to 1. Always disappoint., it can be applied to Jaedong fans...who are VERY DISAPPOINTED (I KNOW)
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On August 26 2013 04:09 graNite wrote:
I think he just won to disappoint in the overall finals even more.
+ Show Spoiler +The thing is, WCS Season 2 CHAMPION is too big of an accomplishment to say he disappointed. Even if he doesn't win the Blizzcon finals, you can't say ever say that Bomber was a disappointment in 2013.
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juicyjames
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최지성 @Startale_Bomber
응원해주신분들께 감사드립니다~
Thanks for cheer!!
Good bye Bomber's law
I'll miss you
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Good to see he's a good sport about it.
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This is Jaedong always silver in SC2 law that overcame bomber law.
A "law" cannot disappear like this folks. Now move along.
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Jacmert's post brings up some interesting questions.
With the Artosis Curse's rise in infamy and Jacmert's assumption that the community in involved in determining the strength of the curse, wouldn't that cause a positive feedback loop?
Let's take for example Artosis's tweet on August 13th: https://twitter.com/Artosis/status/363727500498583552
Artosis openly curses San. Just the comments include sentiments such as "You cursed Alicia now you're cursing San! " and "Free money for @LiquidTaeJa !" The curse itself sways the confidence the community has in the player. This causes the player to be cursed more strongly and the community's belief in the curse to increase, which curses the next player with even more power.
tl;dr: The Artosis Curse is getting stronger. And there's nothing we can do to stop it.
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On August 26 2013 11:25 bappstronaut wrote:Jacmert's post brings up some interesting questions. With the Artosis Curse's rise in infamy and Jacmert's assumption that the community in involved in determining the strength of the curse, wouldn't that cause a positive feedback loop? Let's take for example Artosis's tweet on August 13th: https://twitter.com/Artosis/status/363727500498583552Artosis openly curses San. Just the comments include sentiments such as "You cursed Alicia now you're cursing San! " and "Free money for @LiquidTaeJa !" The curse itself sways the confidence the community has in the player. This causes the player to be cursed more strongly and the community's belief in the curse to increase, which curses the next player with even more power. tl;dr: The Artosis Curse is getting stronger. And there's nothing we can do to stop it.
i await the amusing day that might arrive.
'artosis curse' reaching other esports/sports.
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Because of the Corollary to Bomber's law, Bomber's law can never fail. Now that he's won WCS S3 watch him drop out of next season without taking a map 
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You can paraphrase Bombers law to "He will always win, until he loses." Which SC2 player isn't this true for, except for the ones so bad they never win?
Bomber law only exists because he's had a few blowups in his career, but every loss he has is now because of Bomber's law. Why isn't there a Taeja's law or an Innovation law?
On August 26 2013 11:35 Plexa wrote:Because of the Corollary to Bomber's law, Bomber's law can never fail. Now that he's won WCS S3 watch him drop out of next season without taking a map
I'm starting a Maru's law. He only won WCS so he could disappoint us all by losing in the group stages of the finals. This is how it works right?
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On August 26 2013 22:15 Eufouria wrote:You can paraphrase Bombers law to "He will always win, until he loses." Which SC2 player isn't this true for, except for the ones so bad they never win? Bomber law only exists because he's had a few blowups in his career, but every loss he has is now because of Bomber's law. Why isn't there a Taeja's law or an Innovation law? Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 11:35 Plexa wrote:Because of the Corollary to Bomber's law, Bomber's law can never fail. Now that he's won WCS S3 watch him drop out of next season without taking a map I'm starting a Maru's law. He only won WCS so he could disappoint us all by losing in the group stages of the finals. This is how it works right?
Bomber's law is not just that he wins until he loses. It is that he wins and looks extremely strong, until he bombs out with a terrible performance close to the gold.
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On August 26 2013 04:09 graNite wrote:
I think he just won to disappoint in the overall finals even more.
yeah he will dominate the entire next season and win again only to lose terribly in blizzcon and retire
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On August 26 2013 22:22 gedatsu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 22:15 Eufouria wrote:You can paraphrase Bombers law to "He will always win, until he loses." Which SC2 player isn't this true for, except for the ones so bad they never win? Bomber law only exists because he's had a few blowups in his career, but every loss he has is now because of Bomber's law. Why isn't there a Taeja's law or an Innovation law? On August 26 2013 11:35 Plexa wrote:Because of the Corollary to Bomber's law, Bomber's law can never fail. Now that he's won WCS S3 watch him drop out of next season without taking a map I'm starting a Maru's law. He only won WCS so he could disappoint us all by losing in the group stages of the finals. This is how it works right? Bomber's law is not just that he wins until he loses. It is that he wins and looks extremely strong, until he bombs out with a terrible performance close to the gold.
Well Bombers law when straight up against the forces of both the Artosis curse and the EG curse. If they are all the same strength of mystical powers, then that means that bombers law was easily trumped. If it was only Artosis curse vs Bombers law, then we would be able to distinguish which ancient power is stronger within the realm of SC2.
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On August 26 2013 22:15 Eufouria wrote:You can paraphrase Bombers law to "He will always win, until he loses." Which SC2 player isn't this true for, except for the ones so bad they never win? Bomber law only exists because he's had a few blowups in his career, but every loss he has is now because of Bomber's law. Why isn't there a Taeja's law or an Innovation law? Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 11:35 Plexa wrote:Because of the Corollary to Bomber's law, Bomber's law can never fail. Now that he's won WCS S3 watch him drop out of next season without taking a map I'm starting a Maru's law. He only won WCS so he could disappoint us all by losing in the group stages of the finals. This is how it works right?
TaeJa's law is already "TaeJa will always kick at least one teammate out of the tournament before the Ro4, no matter the bracket size or format."
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On August 26 2013 04:02 aRyuujin wrote:
Can we be honest and say that bomber's law hasn't really applied for ages, he's just been really good, but often not good enough. Now he's good enough, so he won. Story lines make the tournament way more interesting, but this Bomber's Law one has been used every damn time someone talks about him and it hasn't been relevant almost since its inception
We can agree but its boring.... We want suspense.
Bombers Law is dead and is to be resurrected in some terrible form
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Hey hey how bout EG curse?
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I wish Tarson and Jaedong would play in the same tournament, then everyone else would fight for 1st, 3rd and 5th place.
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- * - = +
That must be the reason Bomber's Law and Artosis Curse countered each other out for a huge plus.
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On August 29 2013 21:25 Lizarb wrote:
- * - = +
That must be the reason Bomber's Law and Artosis Curse countered each other out for a huge plus.
It is the only logical explanation :D
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