EPTFor those who doesn't know:
Artosis Curse: Whoever artosis is hyping for is losing
Bomber's Law: Bomber will always disappoint.
Corollary to Bomber's Law: If Bomber does not disappoint, it will be in order to set up a bigger disappointment later.
Last Ro8 OSL showed us that Artosis Curse beats Bomber's law.
First lost to Bomber 0:3
So what are your thoughts?
May be the older one supposed to be the srtongest?
Pseudoscientific discussion is welcome.
Thanks
Ps: BTW is the any other laws? The only other one I know is: GSL Code S has 32 players - but MVP is the one who wins it all
,Just another Curse was brought up: EG Curse
I forgot about that oneArtosis Curse or Bomber Law
Poll: Which one is stronger?
Artosis Curse (686)
82%
Bomber Law (87)
10%
I don't belive in neither of them (42)
5%
They are equally strong (25)
3%
840 total votes
Bomber Law (87)
I don't belive in neither of them (42)
They are equally strong (25)
840 total votes
Your vote: Which one is stronger?
(Vote): Artosis Curse
(Vote): Bomber Law
(Vote): They are equally strong
(Vote): I don't belive in neither of them
Curse Theories so far:
- Jacmert theory
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On July 28 2013 17:27 Jacmert wrote:
Guys, I've been meaning to post this, but I think I've finally got a decent psuedo-scientific model (description) of the Artosis Curse.
Artosis Curse:
Whenever Artosis predicts someone to win a match or a tournament, the following two factors must be evaluated.
1) How sure is Artosis in his prediction?
- (0%) Not sure at all -> 40/40 sure he's right -> (100%) Adamant & hyping the guy up
2) How sure is the community in comparison?
- (High agreement) Does the community fall in solid agreement with Artosis? -> (Minimal agreement) Or is the community extremely skeptical (or perhaps in disagreement with Artosis)?
My theory for the Artosis Curse is that as the sureness of Artosis' prediction approaches 100% and as the sureness of the community's prediction approaches minimal agreement -> the odds of the player winning goes towards 0%.
TLDR: If Artosis is sounding really sure, while the community isn't that sure, the player is probably cursed.
A Couple Anecdotal Examples:
WCS KR Season 1 Finals - Innovation was hyped over Soulkey and Artosis was very sure about this. The community was also quite sure, however. In the end, I think this led to a "weak Artosis curse" effect, which would be a good explanation for why InnoVation practically had the match won at 3-0 and then lost 4 straight to throw away the series. (Result: Mildly cursed)
Innovation vs Bomber - I think Artosis was very sure that Innovation would crush Bomber. Community seemed quite in agreement, but I think a significant minority of Bomber fans who disagreed. In the end, Bomber 2-0'd InnoVation. (Result: Strongly cursed)
First vs Bomber - Artosis sounded ABSOLUTELY sure that First was going to crush Bomber. Apparently, First had shown the best PvT that Artosis had seen recently from anyone, while Artosis didn't have much faith in Bomber's TvP. I think the community was at least split 40/40 (yes, that's the second reference in one post) or in favor of Bomber, especially after seeing him crush InnoVation. (Result: Strongly / very strongly cursed)
Myungsik - Please see http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1j33t7/the_result_of_artosis_tweet_regarding_myungsik_at/ (Result: Cursed)
Next for discussion:
I believe there's a parallel but opposite effect we've seen in Starcraft 2. I call it the Bitterdam Buff. So far, it applies only to
iG.Jim. That man is virtually unstoppable, especially recently. At least in game - US visa application troubles and IEM disqualifications seem to be his Achilles heel. And let's not forget how he (and the other Chinese players) ended up not even being able to sign-up for / play in the WCS AM Season 1 Premier League qualifiers. But man, have you seen his games?
Guys, I've been meaning to post this, but I think I've finally got a decent psuedo-scientific model (description) of the Artosis Curse.
Artosis Curse:
Whenever Artosis predicts someone to win a match or a tournament, the following two factors must be evaluated.
1) How sure is Artosis in his prediction?
- (0%) Not sure at all -> 40/40 sure he's right -> (100%) Adamant & hyping the guy up
2) How sure is the community in comparison?
- (High agreement) Does the community fall in solid agreement with Artosis? -> (Minimal agreement) Or is the community extremely skeptical (or perhaps in disagreement with Artosis)?
My theory for the Artosis Curse is that as the sureness of Artosis' prediction approaches 100% and as the sureness of the community's prediction approaches minimal agreement -> the odds of the player winning goes towards 0%.
TLDR: If Artosis is sounding really sure, while the community isn't that sure, the player is probably cursed.
A Couple Anecdotal Examples:
WCS KR Season 1 Finals - Innovation was hyped over Soulkey and Artosis was very sure about this. The community was also quite sure, however. In the end, I think this led to a "weak Artosis curse" effect, which would be a good explanation for why InnoVation practically had the match won at 3-0 and then lost 4 straight to throw away the series. (Result: Mildly cursed)
Innovation vs Bomber - I think Artosis was very sure that Innovation would crush Bomber. Community seemed quite in agreement, but I think a significant minority of Bomber fans who disagreed. In the end, Bomber 2-0'd InnoVation. (Result: Strongly cursed)
First vs Bomber - Artosis sounded ABSOLUTELY sure that First was going to crush Bomber. Apparently, First had shown the best PvT that Artosis had seen recently from anyone, while Artosis didn't have much faith in Bomber's TvP. I think the community was at least split 40/40 (yes, that's the second reference in one post) or in favor of Bomber, especially after seeing him crush InnoVation. (Result: Strongly / very strongly cursed)
Myungsik - Please see http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1j33t7/the_result_of_artosis_tweet_regarding_myungsik_at/ (Result: Cursed)
Next for discussion:
I believe there's a parallel but opposite effect we've seen in Starcraft 2. I call it the Bitterdam Buff. So far, it applies only to
iG.Jim. That man is virtually unstoppable, especially recently. At least in game - US visa application troubles and IEM disqualifications seem to be his Achilles heel. And let's not forget how he (and the other Chinese players) ended up not even being able to sign-up for / play in the WCS AM Season 1 Premier League qualifiers. But man, have you seen his games? Zealously formula
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On July 29 2013 03:21 Zealously wrote:
After careful consideration, I have devised a formula that decides the magnitude of a blessing or curse for a Korean Starcraft II player (for a foreign player, their chances of winning are divided by 3 because foreigners tend to suck
So we get a formula of
NPT / (B-S)
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Number of blessings given (alternatively number of curses given): N
Power of curse/blessing: P
Length of time (days) since last curse/blessing cast upon a player: T
The player's tendency to self-implode or show off until he dies (See Bomber or Taeja): S
Amount of players not cursed/blessed remaining in the tournament: B (likely a Boring player)
In Bomber's case, with maths behind me, I think it's safe to say that he's going to against Rain
After careful consideration, I have devised a formula that decides the magnitude of a blessing or curse for a Korean Starcraft II player (for a foreign player, their chances of winning are divided by 3 because foreigners tend to suck
So we get a formula of
NPT / (B-S)
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Number of blessings given (alternatively number of curses given): N
Power of curse/blessing: P
Length of time (days) since last curse/blessing cast upon a player: T
The player's tendency to self-implode or show off until he dies (See Bomber or Taeja): S
Amount of players not cursed/blessed remaining in the tournament: B (likely a Boring player)
In Bomber's case, with maths behind me, I think it's safe to say that he's going to against Rain
