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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
July 28 2013 08:14 GMT
#21
both of them are killing eSportS!
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Pseudorandom
Profile Joined April 2010
United States120 Posts
July 28 2013 08:14 GMT
#22
I really want to see Bomber just own it in everything for a while. He'll probably vanish after that because bomber law and be unable to play games ever again, but he really needs to win finally.
"This is scissors, paper is fine, paper just needs to learn how to play. Paper needs to stop complaining." - richlol
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46126 Posts
July 28 2013 08:27 GMT
#23
Nothing is stronger than the Artosis curse.

Not even Cutter.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
July 28 2013 08:27 GMT
#24
Guys, I've been meaning to post this, but I think I've finally got a decent psuedo-scientific model (description) of the Artosis Curse.

Artosis Curse:

Whenever Artosis predicts someone to win a match or a tournament, the following two factors must be evaluated.

1) How sure is Artosis in his prediction?
- (0%) Not sure at all -> 40/40 sure he's right -> (100%) Adamant & hyping the guy up
2) How sure is the community in comparison?
- (High agreement) Does the community fall in solid agreement with Artosis? -> (Minimal agreement) Or is the community extremely skeptical (or perhaps in disagreement with Artosis)?

My theory for the Artosis Curse is that as the sureness of Artosis' prediction approaches 100% and as the sureness of the community's prediction approaches minimal agreement -> the odds of the player winning goes towards 0%.

TLDR: If Artosis is sounding really sure, while the community isn't that sure, the player is probably cursed.

A Couple Anecdotal Examples:
WCS KR Season 1 Finals - Innovation was hyped over Soulkey and Artosis was very sure about this. The community was also quite sure, however. In the end, I think this led to a "weak Artosis curse" effect, which would be a good explanation for why InnoVation practically had the match won at 3-0 and then lost 4 straight to throw away the series. (Result: Mildly cursed)

Innovation vs Bomber - I think Artosis was very sure that Innovation would crush Bomber. Community seemed quite in agreement, but I think a significant minority of Bomber fans who disagreed. In the end, Bomber 2-0'd InnoVation. (Result: Strongly cursed)

First vs Bomber - Artosis sounded ABSOLUTELY sure that First was going to crush Bomber. Apparently, First had shown the best PvT that Artosis had seen recently from anyone, while Artosis didn't have much faith in Bomber's TvP. I think the community was at least split 40/40 (yes, that's the second reference in one post) or in favor of Bomber, especially after seeing him crush InnoVation. (Result: Strongly / very strongly cursed)

Myungsik - Please see http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1j33t7/the_result_of_artosis_tweet_regarding_myungsik_at/ (Result: Cursed)

Next for discussion:
I believe there's a parallel but opposite effect we've seen in Starcraft 2. I call it the Bitterdam Buff. So far, it applies only to (P)iG.Jim. That man is virtually unstoppable, especially recently. At least in game - US visa application troubles and IEM disqualifications seem to be his Achilles heel. And let's not forget how he (and the other Chinese players) ended up not even being able to sign-up for / play in the WCS AM Season 1 Premier League qualifiers. But man, have you seen his games?
Plat Support Main #believe
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
July 28 2013 08:30 GMT
#25
can you add Fionn's curse on the poll :o
$O$ | soO
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 08:32:56
July 28 2013 08:32 GMT
#26

"I don't belive in neither of them"

So much wrong with this. ㅠ_ㅠ
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iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
July 28 2013 08:37 GMT
#27
On July 28 2013 17:27 Jacmert wrote:
Guys, I've been meaning to post this, but I think I've finally got a decent psuedo-scientific model (description) of the Artosis Curse.

Artosis Curse:

Whenever Artosis predicts someone to win a match or a tournament, the following two factors must be evaluated.

1) How sure is Artosis in his prediction?
- (0%) Not sure at all -> 40/40 sure he's right -> (100%) Adamant & hyping the guy up
2) How sure is the community in comparison?
- (High agreement) Does the community fall in solid agreement with Artosis? -> (Minimal agreement) Or is the community extremely skeptical (or perhaps in disagreement with Artosis)?

My theory for the Artosis Curse is that as the sureness of Artosis' prediction approaches 100% and as the sureness of the community's prediction approaches minimal agreement -> the odds of the player winning goes towards 0%.

TLDR: If Artosis is sounding really sure, while the community isn't that sure, the player is probably cursed.

A Couple Anecdotal Examples:
WCS KR Season 1 Finals - Innovation was hyped over Soulkey and Artosis was very sure about this. The community was also quite sure, however. In the end, I think this led to a "weak Artosis curse" effect, which would be a good explanation for why InnoVation practically had the match won at 3-0 and then lost 4 straight to throw away the series. (Result: Mildly cursed)

Innovation vs Bomber - I think Artosis was very sure that Innovation would crush Bomber. Community seemed quite in agreement, but I think a significant minority of Bomber fans who disagreed. In the end, Bomber 2-0'd InnoVation. (Result: Strongly cursed)

First vs Bomber - Artosis sounded ABSOLUTELY sure that First was going to crush Bomber. Apparently, First had shown the best PvT that Artosis had seen recently from anyone, while Artosis didn't have much faith in Bomber's TvP. I think the community was at least split 40/40 (yes, that's the second reference in one post) or in favor of Bomber, especially after seeing him crush InnoVation. (Result: Strongly / very strongly cursed)

Myungsik - Please see http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1j33t7/the_result_of_artosis_tweet_regarding_myungsik_at/ (Result: Cursed)

Next for discussion:
I believe there's a parallel but opposite effect we've seen in Starcraft 2. I call it the Bitterdam Buff. So far, it applies only to (P)iG.Jim. That man is virtually unstoppable, especially recently. At least in game - US visa application troubles and IEM disqualifications seem to be his Achilles heel. And let's not forget how he (and the other Chinese players) ended up not even being able to sign-up for / play in the WCS AM Season 1 Premier League qualifiers. But man, have you seen his games?


Double limits?
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 08:48:47
July 28 2013 08:45 GMT
#28
The Artosis Curse is the strongest and most feared malevolent force in the entire Universe. It can literally turn players fingers into sausages and make entire armies vanish into thin air. Fear it!

+ Show Spoiler +
And it's 'lose' 'losing' 'loser'. No idea where this horrible internet 'oo' spelling of the word 'lose' has come from, but it needs to be stomped on before it spreads.... Oh no, am I too late?
Bleh.
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
July 28 2013 08:47 GMT
#29
On July 28 2013 17:37 iKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 17:27 Jacmert wrote:
Guys, I've been meaning to post this, but I think I've finally got a decent psuedo-scientific model (description) of the Artosis Curse.

Artosis Curse:

Whenever Artosis predicts someone to win a match or a tournament, the following two factors must be evaluated.

1) How sure is Artosis in his prediction?
- (0%) Not sure at all -> 40/40 sure he's right -> (100%) Adamant & hyping the guy up
2) How sure is the community in comparison?
- (High agreement) Does the community fall in solid agreement with Artosis? -> (Minimal agreement) Or is the community extremely skeptical (or perhaps in disagreement with Artosis)?

My theory for the Artosis Curse is that as the sureness of Artosis' prediction approaches 100% and as the sureness of the community's prediction approaches minimal agreement -> the odds of the player winning goes towards 0%.

TLDR: If Artosis is sounding really sure, while the community isn't that sure, the player is probably cursed.

A Couple Anecdotal Examples:
WCS KR Season 1 Finals - Innovation was hyped over Soulkey and Artosis was very sure about this. The community was also quite sure, however. In the end, I think this led to a "weak Artosis curse" effect, which would be a good explanation for why InnoVation practically had the match won at 3-0 and then lost 4 straight to throw away the series. (Result: Mildly cursed)

Innovation vs Bomber - I think Artosis was very sure that Innovation would crush Bomber. Community seemed quite in agreement, but I think a significant minority of Bomber fans who disagreed. In the end, Bomber 2-0'd InnoVation. (Result: Strongly cursed)

First vs Bomber - Artosis sounded ABSOLUTELY sure that First was going to crush Bomber. Apparently, First had shown the best PvT that Artosis had seen recently from anyone, while Artosis didn't have much faith in Bomber's TvP. I think the community was at least split 40/40 (yes, that's the second reference in one post) or in favor of Bomber, especially after seeing him crush InnoVation. (Result: Strongly / very strongly cursed)

Myungsik - Please see http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1j33t7/the_result_of_artosis_tweet_regarding_myungsik_at/ (Result: Cursed)

Next for discussion:
I believe there's a parallel but opposite effect we've seen in Starcraft 2. I call it the Bitterdam Buff. So far, it applies only to (P)iG.Jim. That man is virtually unstoppable, especially recently. At least in game - US visa application troubles and IEM disqualifications seem to be his Achilles heel. And let's not forget how he (and the other Chinese players) ended up not even being able to sign-up for / play in the WCS AM Season 1 Premier League qualifiers. But man, have you seen his games?


Double limits?

More like double asymptotes Imagine two graphs, and if in each graph you're getting closer to the limit/asymptote, then you know you're getting into the danger territory. Kind of like hitting the red-line of an engine's RPM, ha ha.
Plat Support Main #believe
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
July 28 2013 08:50 GMT
#30
Dont forget, CLIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. He is the best player ever from winning the first GSL to the most recent iem without dropping a game or a unit.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
July 28 2013 08:59 GMT
#31
How I wish to see Artosis's face when he sees this thread I know he LOVES the Artosis Curse discussions
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 28 2013 09:02 GMT
#32
On July 28 2013 17:59 Nirel wrote:
How I wish to see Artosis's face when he sees this thread I know he LOVES the Artosis Curse discussions


I think Artosis doesn't read TL anymore since a long time.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cornix
Profile Joined June 2011
United States220 Posts
July 28 2013 09:09 GMT
#33
On July 28 2013 16:16 imallinson wrote:
Bomber's Law can never be wrong. If he does well it's just so he can fail even worse in the future. He will either lose 4-0 to Rain or in the finals he will lose in the most one sided 4-0 StarCraft has ever seen or will ever see.

Worse than InCa v Nestea!?
iS.SunnY, writer extraordinaire. Miami CSL!
LostAncient
Profile Joined August 2010
17 Posts
July 28 2013 09:09 GMT
#34
Gonna have to go with the Artosis Curse, history speaks for itself.

And just a heads up to OP - lose has 1 o, not 2. Lose and loose are separate words with very different meanings.
http://four-kings.com/ "Some men just want to watch the world burn"
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
July 28 2013 09:10 GMT
#35
On July 28 2013 18:02 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 17:59 Nirel wrote:
How I wish to see Artosis's face when he sees this thread I know he LOVES the Artosis Curse discussions


I think Artosis doesn't read TL anymore since a long time.

One can hope.
Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
July 28 2013 09:10 GMT
#36
Obviously Artosis Curse is stronger than Bomber's Law, as the latter only affects Bomber and his opponents, while Artosis can literally change the outcome of any event in the universe. I am quite sure that Artosis predicted Romney to win over Obama, Apocalypse to happen at Y2K, Diablo 3 to be a better game than D2, and you can see what happened to those...
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
July 28 2013 09:20 GMT
#37
On July 28 2013 18:09 Cornix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 16:16 imallinson wrote:
Bomber's Law can never be wrong. If he does well it's just so he can fail even worse in the future. He will either lose 4-0 to Rain or in the finals he will lose in the most one sided 4-0 StarCraft has ever seen or will ever see.

Worse than InCa v Nestea!?


nothing can top that...
:-)
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
July 28 2013 09:30 GMT
#38
there is no way Bomber will beat Rain ..even with magical spells lol
AKMU / IU
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 09:40:40
July 28 2013 09:39 GMT
#39
On July 28 2013 18:09 Cornix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 16:16 imallinson wrote:
Bomber's Law can never be wrong. If he does well it's just so he can fail even worse in the future. He will either lose 4-0 to Rain or in the finals he will lose in the most one sided 4-0 StarCraft has ever seen or will ever see.

Worse than InCa v Nestea!?

no

never


ever...


On July 28 2013 18:30 shin_toss wrote:
there is no way Bomber will beat Rain ..even with magical spells lol



i guarantee you that everyone ever said the same thing when MVPDream smashed rain in Code A
Maruprime.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 28 2013 09:40 GMT
#40
On July 28 2013 18:20 LeeDawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 18:09 Cornix wrote:
On July 28 2013 16:16 imallinson wrote:
Bomber's Law can never be wrong. If he does well it's just so he can fail even worse in the future. He will either lose 4-0 to Rain or in the finals he will lose in the most one sided 4-0 StarCraft has ever seen or will ever see.

Worse than InCa v Nestea!?


nothing can top that...


"Surely he will not expect DTs a 4th time in a row ! "
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
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