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robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 28 2013 18:00 GMT
#61
On July 28 2013 19:15 Grovbolle wrote:
Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe Artosis is just a bad judge of skill when it comes to players?


Has anyone ever considered the fact that the community blows shit like this out of proportion like crazy? This Ro8 Artosis got 2/4 right for example. While that is not a great great ratio, it's also not that bad. For all the times where he was wrong there are literally dozens of times where he was right.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 18:12:33
July 28 2013 18:11 GMT
#62
On July 29 2013 03:00 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 19:15 Grovbolle wrote:
Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe Artosis is just a bad judge of skill when it comes to players?


Has anyone ever considered the fact that the community blows shit like this out of proportion like crazy? This Ro8 Artosis got 2/4 right for example. While that is not a great great ratio, it's also not that bad. For all the times where he was wrong there are literally dozens of times where he was right.

.... which is not very hard to achieve when always rooting for the player with the best current form....


imho bomber will roflstomp rain just like he stomped first, then roflstomp innovation in the first 3 games of the finals. artosis will be hyping up bomber as the best player ever after these impressive wins. then, innovation reversesweeps bomber to take the title, so that artosis' curse and bombers law are fulfilled at the same time, plus innovation reverses his own finals story. (3-0 into 3-4 last gsl.)
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
July 28 2013 18:17 GMT
#63
On July 29 2013 03:00 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 19:15 Grovbolle wrote:
Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe Artosis is just a bad judge of skill when it comes to players?


Has anyone ever considered the fact that the community blows shit like this out of proportion like crazy? This Ro8 Artosis got 2/4 right for example. While that is not a great great ratio, it's also not that bad. For all the times where he was wrong there are literally dozens of times where he was right.

Its not really about predictions every dingle game. its more like who is he hyping for.
Like First - The best P atm, best PvT etc
and then Bum. Bomber crushes him
invisigoat
Profile Joined March 2013
184 Posts
July 28 2013 18:17 GMT
#64
I love Bomber dearly but his curse will stand the test of time. Today he lost the RSL V finals Rain will beat him 4-2. A Bomber/INnoVation final would be SICK CITY though
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
July 28 2013 18:18 GMT
#65
What if Bomber's Law IS the Artosis Curse? I have a sneaking suspicion that all the times Bomber's Law came into effect was when Artosis picked him to win.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 18:28:01
July 28 2013 18:21 GMT
#66
After careful consideration, I have devised a formula that decides the magnitude of a blessing or curse for a Korean Starcraft II player (for a foreign player, their chances of winning are divided by 3 because foreigners tend to suck

So we get a formula of

NPT / (B-T)

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Number of blessings given (alternatively number of curses given): N
Power of curse/blessing: P
Length of time (days) since last curse/blessing cast upon a player: T
The player's tendency to self-implode or show off until he dies (See Bomber or Taeja): S
Amount of players not cursed/blessed remaining in the tournament: B (likely a Boring player)


In Bomber's case, with maths behind me, I think it's safe to say that he's going to against Rain
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robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 28 2013 18:22 GMT
#67
On July 29 2013 03:17 SorrowShine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 03:00 robson1 wrote:
On July 28 2013 19:15 Grovbolle wrote:
Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe Artosis is just a bad judge of skill when it comes to players?


Has anyone ever considered the fact that the community blows shit like this out of proportion like crazy? This Ro8 Artosis got 2/4 right for example. While that is not a great great ratio, it's also not that bad. For all the times where he was wrong there are literally dozens of times where he was right.

Its not really about predictions every dingle game. its more like who is he hyping for.
Like First - The best P atm, best PvT etc
and then Bum. Bomber crushes him


Artosis is just the kind of guy who overhypes stuff because he get's exited, but this artosis curse stuff is just blown way out of proportion. Although it was kind of annoying how he just shat on bomber all the time.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Tibbroar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States161 Posts
July 28 2013 18:29 GMT
#68
On July 29 2013 03:22 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 03:17 SorrowShine wrote:
On July 29 2013 03:00 robson1 wrote:
On July 28 2013 19:15 Grovbolle wrote:
Has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe Artosis is just a bad judge of skill when it comes to players?


Has anyone ever considered the fact that the community blows shit like this out of proportion like crazy? This Ro8 Artosis got 2/4 right for example. While that is not a great great ratio, it's also not that bad. For all the times where he was wrong there are literally dozens of times where he was right.

Its not really about predictions every dingle game. its more like who is he hyping for.
Like First - The best P atm, best PvT etc
and then Bum. Bomber crushes him


Artosis is just the kind of guy who overhypes stuff because he get's exited, but this artosis curse stuff is just blown way out of proportion. Although it was kind of annoying how he just shat on bomber all the time.

People are just having fun with it, it's completely harmless silliness, just like the Unofficial World Champion stuff (except that stuff is super serious!)
I will always believe in the fallen king.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 28 2013 18:38 GMT
#69
There are those who doubt the Artosis Curse???

BLASPHEMY I SAY
User was warned for too many mimes.
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
July 28 2013 19:11 GMT
#70
I think the title of the thread is wrong, because it is not the moment to ask this question.
For the moment, the Artosis curse and the Bomber Law might actually still be working together towards making Bomber an invincible man.
The reason is simple, no one ever knows when the Bomber Law stops piling up the success in order to unleash the infinite stream of disappointment. Right now, we are reaching a level that might lead to a disaster like nothing we have ever known. If it keeps on going like that, we might just witness the end of time on the OSL finals ...
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
July 28 2013 19:13 GMT
#71
People need to get this straight. In order for bomber to lose it needs to be a dissapointment to all his fans. Loosing to Rain would be expected by many given rains PvT, therefor i predict bomber to advance to the finals, to set up the sickest of disapointments that will haunt the ST house the year out -> now that is bombers law
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
July 28 2013 19:14 GMT
#72
On July 29 2013 04:11 ColtraneL wrote:
I think the title of the thread is wrong, because it is not the moment to ask this question.
For the moment, the Artosis curse and the Bomber Law might actually still be working together towards making Bomber an invincible man.
The reason is simple, no one ever knows when the Bomber Law stops piling up the success in order to unleash the infinite stream of disappointment. Right now, we are reaching a level that might lead to a disaster like nothing we have ever known. If it keeps on going like that, we might just witness the end of time on the OSL finals ...


Quoted because it supported my previous post right above this one
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
PerryHooter
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden268 Posts
July 28 2013 19:23 GMT
#73
Although I used to find it a little amusing, this "artosis curse" nonsense has been blown well out of proportions. SC2 is a game in which lesser player often win games or even series, and because of that it's very hard to make predictions. Artosis predictions are always in line with who "should" win, no one is arguing that. Whenever he's wrong there's a new reddit posts and people add it to their subconscious list of evidence of the existence of the artosis curse. Whenever he's right noone notices because "duh, his prediction was one that anyone would've made". Maybe he's been a little unlucky recently, but that's statistical variation for you.

Sorry for being such a bore, but this has lost all proportions (because of the inability for the human mind to fully grasp the complex world of probability).
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt"
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
July 28 2013 19:25 GMT
#74
Realistically I don't believe in either, but if any type of curse actually exists its the Artosis Curse.
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iLevitate
Profile Joined April 2012
United States225 Posts
July 28 2013 19:29 GMT
#75
Artosis curse any-day anytime.
You lose, You learn
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 28 2013 19:34 GMT
#76
With Bombers 3-0 over First in the Ro8 Artosis is probably going to predict him to beat Rain.

Prepare for the most spectacular Bomber blow up in history as these 2 forces of nature combine into something even a probe rush every game from Rain won't be able to stop.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
July 28 2013 20:22 GMT
#77
You know why there is an Artosis curse and Fionn curse? 'Cuz they predict the most, and Starcraft 2 is pretty hard to predict.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 28 2013 20:25 GMT
#78
On July 29 2013 05:22 rift wrote:
You know why there is an Artosis curse and Fionn curse? 'Cuz they predict the most, and Starcraft 2 is pretty hard to predict.


Actually it's because they get a lot of shit wrong

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Not that anyone blames them most of the time, but still
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 20:29:29
July 28 2013 20:27 GMT
#79
On July 29 2013 05:25 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:22 rift wrote:
You know why there is an Artosis curse and Fionn curse? 'Cuz they predict the most, and Starcraft 2 is pretty hard to predict.


Actually it's because they get a lot of shit wrong

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Not that anyone blames them most of the time, but still

It's really easy to make a lot of incorrect predictions when you predict people with absolute confidence in the Ro16 all of the time. Artosis's love of hyperbole based upon a limited amount of recent data is what has generated "The Artosis Curse."

By the way, Rain's toast.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Arkani
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria60 Posts
July 28 2013 20:29 GMT
#80
well.. there are two possabilitys i see...
the world just stops the second the first game beginns
both of em arestuck in draw games for eternity

all in all it should be interesting to see what happens

but if nothing of the above things happens, artosis curse > bombers law
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