Azubu Korea is no more, team to remain - Page 13
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Daray
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
On June 28 2013 20:20 osmanic wrote: lol i laughed so hard at this :D "welcome to azubu com" I do hope everyone knows its a joke based on http://zombo.com/ | ||
-Celestial-
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StarStruck
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On June 28 2013 20:21 turdburgler wrote: everyone loves to complain about EGs dirty money but the moment some guy gets fucked in the ass and needs a hand out everyone starts praying for EG to swoop in and foot the bill. That's what EG does though, but usually they swoop in when a player peaks and we all know how that turns out. In either case, there are a lot of good Koreans for the taking now so it just makes sense to pick up a select few. | ||
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GraFx
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renaissanceMAN
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SomethingWitty
Canada94 Posts
On June 28 2013 22:14 StarStruck wrote: That's what EG does though, but usually they swoop in when a player peaks and we all know how that turns out. In either case, there are a lot of good Koreans for the taking now so it just makes sense to pick up a select few. Examples of that recently? Suppy was playing worse off EG then on EG. Xenocider I don't know much about, although I wouldn't consider him at his peak or really, really good. aLive and Oz were pickups that occurred far after their "peak" and were picked up for Proleague. Revival? I wouldn't really say at his peak and he has only been playing better since being under coach Park. Jaedong? Jaedong was not showing much/any promise in SC2 when EG picked him up, although in EG's Korean team house and under coach Park Jaedong has greatly, greatly improved. OT: This is pretty shitty news, although I'm glad it has stopped now as opposed to chancing the players losing more money. | ||
emanresU
Germany393 Posts
On June 28 2013 11:00 Ben... wrote: Man those poor oGs guys just do not get a break. I hope they all find teams. Also, maybe now Supernova and Violet will stream on Twitch again so we can actually watch them. That Azubu streaming service was abysmal. Violet is not on Azubu kr though or is he? Also I think I saw him streaming on twitch before. | ||
StarStruck
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On June 28 2013 22:22 SomethingWitty wrote: Examples of that recently? Suppy was playing worse off EG then on EG. Xenocider I don't know much about, although I wouldn't consider him at his peak or really, really good. aLive and Oz were pickups that occurred far after their "peak" and were picked up for Proleague. Revival? I wouldn't really say at his peak and he has only been playing better since being under coach Park. Jaedong? Jaedong was not showing much/any promise in SC2 when EG picked him up, although in EG's Korean team house and under coach Park Jaedong has greatly, greatly improved. OT: This is pretty shitty news, although I'm glad it has stopped now as opposed to chancing the players losing more money. Obviously I'm talking about the old credo. aLive and Oz were sent to purgatory and if you think they peaked prior to that I think you have another thing coming. More like unfulfilled potential especially considering they aren't new to Western teams, so there are a lot of question marks still there. Jaedong would have improved by himself with or without someone looking over his shoulder. Sorry that's the type of player he is. He used to work just as hard as Flash. Ask anyone in the scene back then and they'll tell you Flash and Jaedong were the two hardest working players in BW. | ||
revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Very sad to hear about SC2 Pros getting ripped off by their employers. It happens way too often too. | ||
Mathwel
Chile53 Posts
On June 28 2013 16:34 BlueFlames wrote: Looks like someone is doing a stellar job over there. Lets see who will bend over CLG next. Well they are a team of really stupid kids with big egos, cant say i fell sorry for them. Anyways, i am not worried for the solid players on Azubu, they will find new teams if need be. The other ones might have to consider doing something else or try harder. And if we are lucky, maybe NaDa will stop insulting his former fans by prostituting himself for anyone with money. I guess i am more frustrated by this Azubu stuff than i thought. Good luck to Violet, such a cool guy. right because nada dosnt need to eat. | ||
sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
For their seemingly Swedish-only sister brand, yes. If they add koreans it would most likely be under the EG banner. | ||
SomethingWitty
Canada94 Posts
On June 28 2013 22:47 StarStruck wrote: Obviously I'm talking about the old credo. aLive and Oz were sent to purgatory and if you think they peaked prior to that I think you have another thing coming. More like unfulfilled potential especially considering they aren't new to Western teams, so there are a lot of question marks still there. Jaedong would have improved by himself with or without someone looking over his shoulder. Sorry that's the type of player he is. He used to work just as hard as Flash. Ask anyone in the scene back then and they'll tell you Flash and Jaedong were the two hardest working players in BW. You wouldn't call aLive's peak so far his win at IPL4? Oz, maybe not, although he and aLive were picked up as a result of Fnatic ending all things to do with Korea, not because they were at their peak and because EG wanted to snipe some of them. Furthermore your admittance that both of them haven't peaked refutes your earlier point that EG just picks up players at their peak and then causes them or correlates with them becoming worse. You're contradicting yourself. Well yeah he would have improved by continuing to play, although once again EG did not at all pick him up at the peak of his SC2 play and comparing him to Flash at the time, Flash was playing much, much better. On June 28 2013 22:50 revel8 wrote: Another team falls apart due to bad management/scam artists. I have just been reading Maddelisk's blog about Absolute Legends, and I know Dimaga got screwed by his old team too. Considering all the players who are not getting paid as promised it is amazing that EG gets such a hard time here on TL. Last I heard EG pay their players well and on time. That seems pretty basic but unfortunately that seems something that some teams don't manage to accomplish. Very sad to hear about SC2 Pros getting ripped off by their employers. It happens way too often too. It just seems that a majority or a very vocal minority of SC2 fans despise success. The vast majority of the /r/Starcrat community jumped on the chance to donate to Root so that they could open a team house, although everyone hates EG for owning a team house in Arizona and in Korea. It's rather appalling that people give shit to EG when they are one of the few Western organizations that hasn't folded, but flourished as of recent. | ||
StarStruck
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On June 28 2013 22:50 revel8 wrote: Another team falls apart due to bad management/scam artists. I have just been reading Maddelisk's blog about Absolute Legends, and I know Dimaga got screwed by his old team too. Considering all the players who are not getting paid as promised it is amazing that EG gets such a hard time here on TL. Last I heard EG pay their players well and on time. That seems pretty basic but unfortunately that seems something that some teams don't manage to accomplish. Very sad to hear about SC2 Pros getting ripped off by their employers. It happens way too often too. You make it sound like this is some sort of revelation when its been happening to foreigners since the BW days considering guys paid players out of their pocket and we didn't really have any sponsors until much later and even back then it was practically nothing that we got from them. Some things don't change fast. This is familiar territory for them. | ||
StarStruck
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On June 28 2013 23:11 SomethingWitty wrote: You wouldn't call aLive's peak so far his win at IPL4? Oz, maybe not, although he and aLive were picked up as a result of Fnatic ending all things to do with Korea, not because they were at their peak and because EG wanted to snipe some of them. Furthermore your admittance that both of them haven't peaked refutes your earlier point that EG just picks up players at their peak and then causes them or correlates with them becoming worse. You're contradicting yourself. Well yeah he would have improved by continuing to play, although once again EG did not at all pick him up at the peak of his SC2 play and comparing him to Flash at the time, Flash was playing much, much better. It just seems that a majority or a very vocal minority of SC2 fans despise success. The vast majority of the /r/Starcrat community jumped on the chance to donate to Root so that they could open a team house, although everyone hates EG for owning a team house in Arizona and in Korea. It's rather appalling that people give shit to EG when they are one of the few Western organizations that hasn't folded, but flourished as of recent. I don't call IPL anything a peak the same way I don't consider HerO's back-to-back wins of DH Winter a peak. It's great they have a few wins under their belt but I don't think anyone would consider them to be at the top of the hill after those victories. You get what I am saying? Heck, I don't even consider a few GSL wins to be that extravagant anymore considering the game is changing a lot faster with the patch work compared to the map changes/diversity/expansions/patches in BW. Its going by much quicker and we have yet to see what will happen to players like Bogus. There's a lot of variables in play so it makes it much more complicated. From what I've seen of aLive in PL I think he is capable of playing better. Oh and I just read your last blurb. I thought I was pretty clear in my first sentence when I said the old credo? It's not like I was born yesterday so I know the EG timeline pretty well bud. I don't see where you have a bone with that. I certainly don't avoid history. You want to defend it and that's all fine and dandy but don't avoid history and I don't get where your going with this success. If you mean pushing content then the EG brand certainly does that. As for all these voices you hear and they hear. Well, sometimes it's best to tune out all those voices altogether so you can focus on the actual goal at hand. It's all about perception of the given brand. Why do you think Alex opened another brand? Why do you think they invited TL into the PL fold other than the fact they needed more talent to compete in the PL? Come on now. Some things just make sense and I've seen a lot more positive remarks with regards to EG compared to a year ago. This isn't guess work. | ||
Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On June 28 2013 11:04 TeslasPigeon wrote: Alright EGTL, now is the time to poach some players! Nazgul had hundreds of chances to poach Genius or Supernova. In fact, considering the fact that Genius asked specifically to join Liquid and Supernova was staying with Jinro and Huk, I'm surprised we didn't see any of them join Liquid. | ||
renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On June 28 2013 23:35 Clbull wrote: Nazgul had hundreds of chances to poach Genius or Supernova. In fact, considering the fact that Genius asked specifically to join Liquid and Supernova was staying with Jinro and Huk, I'm surprised we didn't see any of them join Liquid. TL probably didn't have enough to pay for them, even if Genius and Supernova aren't top dollar players, the amount of money that you'd have to invest not just in them, but with them (translators, korean house? etc.) is huge. | ||
StarStruck
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On June 28 2013 23:39 renaissanceMAN wrote: TL probably didn't have enough to pay for them, even if Genius and Supernova aren't top dollar players, the amount of money that you'd have to invest not just in them, but with them (translators, korean house? etc.) is huge. I don't know about that. Just because they were oGs doesn't mean TL is going to go right after them. I'm sure Victor has his reasons and it's none of our business either. | ||
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