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On June 28 2013 23:35 Clbull wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 11:04 TeslasPigeon wrote:
Alright EGTL, now is the time to poach some players! Nazgul had hundreds of chances to poach Genius or Supernova. In fact, considering the fact that Genius asked specifically to join Liquid and Supernova was staying with Jinro and Huk, I'm surprised we didn't see any of them join Liquid.
This so much. I never understood why Liquid didn't pick up SuperNova. He was living with HerO, Jinro, HuK, HayprO and TLO. He had so much potential. And instead he joined mTw. Sigh.
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Hrm, guess Azubu was as sketchy as everyone is saying.
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On June 28 2013 20:09 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 17:29 GunPaladin wrote:
EG.Genius
EG.Supernova
EG.viOLet
EG.San
EG.Symbol
Alliance.Sleep
Alliance.B4
Alliance.TOP
Alliance.VINES
Alliance.Ganzi
you heard it here first. Alliance is only swedish
so far it is.
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On June 29 2013 00:44 blacksheepwall wrote:
Hrm, guess Azubu was as sketchy as everyone is saying.
i don't see how you could think that they were legitmate, the company was traced back to two financial criminals, they didn't have an office where they said they did, shit like the players not being notified of major changes to the organization until they read it on websites like TL...
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Looks like the streaming service will still be supported by "Azubu Germany". I tweeted CLG's manager to see if they are going to switch to twitch with Azubu shutting down and he said that they aren't shutting down
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On June 29 2013 01:19 Vonthin wrote:
Looks like the streaming service will still be supported by "Azubu Germany". I tweeted CLG's manager to see if they are going to switch to twitch with Azubu shutting down and he said that they aren't shutting down
Yet Ganzi is streaming on twitch right now
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On June 28 2013 11:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On a brighter note. IM needs a terran. Supernova is in the ro16 off the blood of Squirtle. Get yo ass over here 
Well this put a bit of a smile on my face in an otherwise very disappointing moment.
Like, seriously Azubu, what the fuck? You just dropped a crapload of people cause you felt like it, without even consulting them so that they could have time to transition. I understand businesses aim to make money first, but sometimes the way businesses go around screwing people on a moment's notice is so bad. It's like when IPL was cancelled out of nowhere cause someone bought them out and found out it wasn't profitable to hold the tournament.
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On June 29 2013 01:26 RyLai wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 11:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On a brighter note. IM needs a terran. Supernova is in the ro16 off the blood of Squirtle. Get yo ass over here Well this put a bit of a smile on my face in an otherwise very disappointing moment. Like, seriously Azubu, what the fuck? You just dropped a crapload of people cause you felt like it, without even consulting them so that they could have time to transition. I understand businesses aim to make money first, but sometimes the way businesses go around screwing people on a moment's notice is so bad. It's like when IPL was cancelled out of nowhere cause someone bought them out and found out it wasn't profitable to hold the tournament.
There is no Azubu beyond Azubu Korea...
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On June 28 2013 16:22 GunPaladin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 13:15 slowbacontron wrote: If Azubu really does turn out to be handling money even dirtier than EG's, I just hope the SC2 players don't have to attend court hearings or something \/___\/ Why are you comparing azubu to the most successful gaming organization? When was EG's money ever dirty?
Worry not! I was joking about EG based on their Geniuses Falling video. The joke seems to be more popular on Reddit, huh.
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On June 29 2013 01:19 Vonthin wrote:
Looks like the streaming service will still be supported by "Azubu Germany". I tweeted CLG's manager to see if they are going to switch to twitch with Azubu shutting down and he said that they aren't shutting down
Why would they inform him when they shutdown... You have to be blind to see that sooner or later the streaming site will be gone too. There is NOTHING behind it. Their server capacity is RENTED just like own3d.tv's was...
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On June 29 2013 01:22 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 01:19 Vonthin wrote:
Looks like the streaming service will still be supported by "Azubu Germany". I tweeted CLG's manager to see if they are going to switch to twitch with Azubu shutting down and he said that they aren't shutting down Yet Ganzi is streaming on twitch right now
I think it is because he is streaming in the Axiom House
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I demand to know what will happen to all my Azubux!!! I was told that there was more enjoyment to be had with Azubux!
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On June 28 2013 23:11 SomethingWitty wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 22:47 StarStruck wrote:On June 28 2013 22:22 SomethingWitty wrote:On June 28 2013 22:14 StarStruck wrote:On June 28 2013 20:21 turdburgler wrote:
everyone loves to complain about EGs dirty money but the moment some guy gets fucked in the ass and needs a hand out everyone starts praying for EG to swoop in and foot the bill. That's what EG does though, but usually they swoop in when a player peaks and we all know how that turns out. In either case, there are a lot of good Koreans for the taking now so it just makes sense to pick up a select few. Examples of that recently? Suppy was playing worse off EG then on EG. Xenocider I don't know much about, although I wouldn't consider him at his peak or really, really good. aLive and Oz were pickups that occurred far after their "peak" and were picked up for Proleague. Revival? I wouldn't really say at his peak and he has only been playing better since being under coach Park. Jaedong? Jaedong was not showing much/any promise in SC2 when EG picked him up, although in EG's Korean team house and under coach Park Jaedong has greatly, greatly improved. OT: This is pretty shitty news, although I'm glad it has stopped now as opposed to chancing the players losing more money. Obviously I'm talking about the old credo. aLive and Oz were sent to purgatory and if you think they peaked prior to that I think you have another thing coming. More like unfulfilled potential especially considering they aren't new to Western teams, so there are a lot of question marks still there. Jaedong would have improved by himself with or without someone looking over his shoulder. Sorry that's the type of player he is. He used to work just as hard as Flash. Ask anyone in the scene back then and they'll tell you Flash and Jaedong were the two hardest working players in BW. You wouldn't call aLive's peak so far his win at IPL4? Oz, maybe not, although he and aLive were picked up as a result of Fnatic ending all things to do with Korea, not because they were at their peak and because EG wanted to snipe some of them. Furthermore your admittance that both of them haven't peaked refutes your earlier point that EG just picks up players at their peak and then causes them or correlates with them becoming worse. You're contradicting yourself. Well yeah he would have improved by continuing to play, although once again EG did not at all pick him up at the peak of his SC2 play and comparing him to Flash at the time, Flash was playing much, much better. Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 22:50 revel8 wrote:
Another team falls apart due to bad management/scam artists. I have just been reading Maddelisk's blog about Absolute Legends, and I know Dimaga got screwed by his old team too. Considering all the players who are not getting paid as promised it is amazing that EG gets such a hard time here on TL. Last I heard EG pay their players well and on time. That seems pretty basic but unfortunately that seems something that some teams don't manage to accomplish.
Very sad to hear about SC2 Pros getting ripped off by their employers. It happens way too often too. It just seems that a majority or a very vocal minority of SC2 fans despise success. The vast majority of the /r/Starcrat community jumped on the chance to donate to Root so that they could open a team house, although everyone hates EG for owning a team house in Arizona and in Korea. It's rather appalling that people give shit to EG when they are one of the few Western organizations that hasn't folded, but flourished as of recent.
This guy... You think people give EG shit because they have team houses or because they are rich? Its more about their view on the whole esports scene, the people associated with EG and buying popular/successful players. I also find their extremly aggressive marketing absolutely disgusting. Jaedong walking out with a monster bottle in his hand. Fuck off with that shit.
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On June 29 2013 02:13 SilverStar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 01:19 Vonthin wrote:
Looks like the streaming service will still be supported by "Azubu Germany". I tweeted CLG's manager to see if they are going to switch to twitch with Azubu shutting down and he said that they aren't shutting down Why would they inform him when they shutdown... You have to be blind to see that sooner or later the streaming site will be gone too. There is NOTHING behind it. Their server capacity is RENTED just like own3d.tv's was...
I agree with you that it won't last much longer but he might know some things that we don't. The streaming service is ran by "AzubuNorth America" according to the Azubu.tv page and Kelby has friends who work there
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On June 28 2013 15:39 Fionn wrote:
If anyone thought HoSeo would outlive oGs, TSL, Slayers, Azubu, and STX Soul, please collect your money.
I hope Proleague in 2017 is KT, SKT, CJ and HoSeo.
Samsung ain't never gonna give up, because we KHAAANNNN!!!
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On June 29 2013 03:06 RezChi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 15:39 Fionn wrote:
If anyone thought HoSeo would outlive oGs, TSL, Slayers, Azubu, and STX Soul, please collect your money.
I hope Proleague in 2017 is KT, SKT, CJ and HoSeo. Samsung ain't never gonna give up, because we KHAAANNNN!!!
STX Soul is leaving sc2 too?
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why would STX disband? they just gained a lot of exposure because innovation, but anyway. _I believe this is only the first stage of the problem and a lot of teams will going to disband soon
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On June 29 2013 03:10 Straxis wrote:
why would STX disband? they just gained a lot of exposure because innovation, but anyway. _I believe this is only the first stage of the problem and a lot of teams will going to disband soon
Apparently the STX company is like $9 billion in debt
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On June 29 2013 03:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 03:10 Straxis wrote:
why would STX disband? they just gained a lot of exposure because innovation, but anyway. _I believe this is only the first stage of the problem and a lot of teams will going to disband soon Apparently the STX company is like $9 billion in debt
If they were in that much debt I feel like the gaming team would be the first thing to go... I was always under the impression that the big korean powerhouses are somewhat autonomous from the actual companies that have their name on the jersey. I'm sure there's some money involved somewhere, but at some point it becomes self-sustaining...right? 
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On June 29 2013 03:24 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 03:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On June 29 2013 03:10 Straxis wrote:
why would STX disband? they just gained a lot of exposure because innovation, but anyway. _I believe this is only the first stage of the problem and a lot of teams will going to disband soon Apparently the STX company is like $9 billion in debt If they were in that much debt I feel like the gaming team would be the first thing to go... I was always under the impression that the big korean powerhouses are somewhat autonomous from the actual companies that have their name on the jersey. I'm sure there's some money involved somewhere, but at some point it becomes self-sustaining...right?
That's why people are saying it.
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