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http://copaamerica.starcraft2.com/novedades-1/comienza-la-starcraft-ii-copa-america-2013-3
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Today, Blizzard along with Localstrike unveiled a new tournament for latin america called the Copa América.
Divided into 4 seasons, each one lasting a month, each season will have 128 players from all of LA in a single elimination bracket, followed by a group stage for the top16 and playoffs for the top8, with the top4 having 950 dollars prize pool.
Signups are open for any player from LA, but each season will have a certain number of spots reserved for each country:
28 for Brazil 18 for Mexico 18 for Argentina 18 for Chile 10 for Peru 8 for Colombia 5 for Venezuela 5 for Uruguay 18 for the rest of LA
Top16 each season receive points which will count toward the end of the year, where the top8 will play live in Argentina in the Grand Finals for a prize pool of 6200 dollars.
Games will be casted in both Spanish and Portuguese by some of the most well known LA casters, including TheArgie and Predoca who have casted evens such as Dreamhack and HomeStory Cup before: http://www.twitch.tv/team/sc2copaamerica
As a personal opinion, this is a great idea for developing the latin american scene by having a LA only tourmanet, with some real prize money, casted games, and a live finals at the end of the year. And who knows, maybe this could be the test for a future WCS LA.
Poll: Copa América: yay or nay?yay! (272) 94% nay! (16) 6% 288 total votes Your vote: Copa América: yay or nay? (Vote): yay! (Vote): nay!
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I don't get it. But Latin America isn't that strong. Wouldn't inviting Koreans, and encouraging an influx of them, increase the skill level of LA? I think it would also push the players to try harder and take the game more seriously. Also, what's the point of having a Latin American Tournament if it's actually based on geographical locations related to the name of the tournament? That's pretty old fashioned and weak.
In seriousness, that's nice to see.
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Did inviting koreans to MLGs in 2011 increase the skill of the NA scene? Not really, they just got slaughtered. I also doubt a korean would be willing to travel for what's probably a 2k or less prize for first place for 6 months worth of playing
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this is sick! get to see some more Latin American exposure :D
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I'm so fucking hyped for this =)
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I think the reason they didn't invite koreans, europeans or north americans was so they could promote their compadres I think that even simple korean in master league would wipe it all
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On June 21 2013 12:33 JP Dayne wrote: I think the reason they didn't invite koreans, europeans or north americans was so they could promote their compadres I think that even simple korean in master league would wipe it all
Catz, Major, Capoche, and some of the other Latin American guys (is killer still active? and that other good Mexican player) have a higher skill level than the average masters-league Korean.
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Finally!!! LA needed thissss
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On June 21 2013 12:26 playa wrote: I don't get it. But Latin America isn't that strong. Wouldn't inviting Koreans, and encouraging an influx of them, increase the skill level of LA? I think it would also push the players to try harder and take the game more seriously. Also, what's the point of having a Latin American Tournament if it's actually based on geographical locations related to the name of the tournament? That's pretty old fashioned and weak.
In seriousness, that's nice to see. Sorry but this is completely wrong.
What we need are more Latin Americans playing seriously PERIOD
You're suggesting having LA players play in an LA tournament that gives 0 prize pool to LA players.
It's not "old fashioned and weak", it's necessary! Ofc it's nice to see, because its been a long time waiting for something like this^^
So excited ;D hoping everyone good can participate fully without scheduling conflicts!
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Making a local scene active is always a good move, good luck !
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I am really excited for this!
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On June 21 2013 12:52 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 12:26 playa wrote: I don't get it. But Latin America isn't that strong. Wouldn't inviting Koreans, and encouraging an influx of them, increase the skill level of LA? I think it would also push the players to try harder and take the game more seriously. Also, what's the point of having a Latin American Tournament if it's actually based on geographical locations related to the name of the tournament? That's pretty old fashioned and weak.
In seriousness, that's nice to see. Sorry but this is completely wrong. What we need are more Latin Americans playing seriously PERIOD You're suggesting having LA players play in an LA tournament that gives 0 prize pool to LA players. Sorry, but you need to change your perspective. It's not "old fashioned and weak", it's necessary! Ofc it's nice to see, because its been a long time waiting for something like this^^ So excited ;D hoping everyone good can participate fully without scheduling conflicts!
You could either call that sarcasm or Morhaime talk. Given that this is what Blizzard said, verbatim, for WCS NA, perhaps this tournament will forebode some changes in the future for WCS. Obviously this LA tournament is a common sense thing. But, given that WCS is more of a making money thing, probably not. I just hope to see some more lovely fluff.
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Wow, great for the LA scene. I guess WCS left a void that this is supposed to fill.
Will this all be played on the NA server? Does SA as a whole have a decent connection to NA?
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Looks awesome! No english cast, though? I actually would pretty interested in at least watching the ro16 on...eh, I suppose I could dust off some of that Spanish I learned.
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On June 21 2013 13:12 Ichabod wrote: Wow, great for the LA scene. I guess WCS left a void that this is supposed to fill.
Will this all be played on the NA server? Does SA as a whole have a decent connection to NA? This will be played on NA server, since the whole of the american continent plays on NA. No idea how much ping South America has, but regardless NA is the closest.
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NA server is completely playable, it is nice seeing that blizzard is investing in making the LA community grow. Maybe this will expand for the next year . The problem with the LA community imo is that only a bunch of players really play profesionally, I mean full time.
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is everyone missing the sarcasm in the first reply xD. This sounds amazing, I've been a fan of a lot of the top LA players for a long time.
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That's a really cool piece of news!
It's also interesting that it doesn't follow the WCS idea, but that it's strictly region-locked. Perhaps this is a way for Blizzard to evaluate what they're going to do for WCS 2014 - If the region-locked Copa América is relatively more successful than WCS AM 2013, then they would get quantifiable feedback that people enjoy wathcing their local (well, regional) heroes more than they enjoy watching Koreans compete in their regional tournament. Also, I think that the LA scene has very much potential, so it's very nice that Blizzard tries to nurture it. Lastly, I really like that there are spots for "rest of LA", so that no country is excluded from competing.
Edit: WCS AM, not WCS NA...
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That's great! Good guy Blizzard.
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WOW that's great!I hope Blizzard can hold this kind of tournament in China/Taiwan/Southeast Asia too.
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Oh lol, I didn't realize Blizzard was behind this, great !
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this is very good news, NA needs that kind of tournaments too.
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Supporting the (local) scene is always good news!
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This is amazing.... gotta train some now!!
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On June 21 2013 20:47 DHU.rHyme wrote: WOW that's great!I hope Blizzard can hold this kind of tournament in China/Taiwan/Southeast Asia too. They're organising the Vengeance Cup in Singapore with $5,000 prizemoney.
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On June 21 2013 14:07 MajOr wrote: how to sign up oo?
Poll: Who will win Copa América?MajOr (20) 56% Someone else (16) 44% 36 total votes Your vote: Who will win Copa América? (Vote): MajOr (Vote): Someone else
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This sounds so awesome, really looking forward to it :D New talents coming up...
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Its like the football tourney XD ahah woop
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On June 21 2013 12:20 DARKING wrote: Top16 each season receive pointswhich will count toward the end of the year, where the top8 will play live in Argentina in the Grand Finals for a prize pool of 6200 dollars.
Games will be casted in both Spanish and Portuguese by some of the most well known LA casters, including TheArgie and Predoca who have casted evens such as Dreamhack and HomeStory Cup before:
Based Argie!
Everything sounds great, hyped as fuck!
On June 21 2013 12:26 playa wrote: I don't get it. But Latin America isn't that strong. Wouldn't inviting Koreans, and encouraging an influx of them, increase the skill level of LA? I think it would also push the players to try harder and take the game more seriously. Also, what's the point of having a Latin American Tournament if it's actually based on geographical locations related to the name of the tournament? That's pretty old fashioned and weak. The thing is, the local scene is not only "low skilled", its also really small. MOBAs and f2p games are extremely popular here, so I guess they are just trying to compete with them, and giving money and exposure to local players is always great incentive to improve.
Also, "Copa America" is an extremely popular LA football cup, they are naming it after that probably.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_América
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Very nice!!, will train a lot to get into the RO128
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On June 21 2013 12:28 Zenbrez wrote: Did inviting koreans to MLGs in 2011 increase the skill of the NA scene? Not really, they just got slaughtered. I also doubt a korean would be willing to travel for what's probably a 2k or less prize for first place for 6 months worth of playing
this. You have to grow it before you can compete with the koreans. KOreans have the infrastructure. THis is a step towards foriegners building the infrastructure to compete.
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Great initiative really. It's hard to keep track on the top LA players since the server merge and I think this is a step in the right direction. In BW it was a bit easier to check the top players due to national ladders on the servers and such things. Unfortunately I dont speak spanish or portugese so I cant really enjoy the streams that much.
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lol @ everyone taking playa's post seriously 
He obviously thinks this is a great idea for the LA scene, but he's saying it in a very satirical way. Because we all wish WCS was region locked. Did you know that if you want to play WCS Korea... you have to live in Korea? But if you play in WCS AM/EU you can live anywhere in the world. Odd, no?
Anyways I saw Fenix posting about this on Facebook recently :D It should be a pretty decent set of tournaments.
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Catz vs Major all ROOT finals! GOGOGO
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On June 21 2013 12:28 Zenbrez wrote: Did inviting koreans to MLGs in 2011 increase the skill of the NA scene? Not really, they just got slaughtered. I also doubt a korean would be willing to travel for what's probably a 2k or less prize for first place for 6 months worth of playing If Koreans and foreigners would've never played together in tournaments the skill disparity would be even bigger than it currently is. The most efficient way of learning is by playing against people who are better.
Anyway, nice to see some action in LA.
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On June 22 2013 04:57 mechengineer123 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 12:28 Zenbrez wrote: Did inviting koreans to MLGs in 2011 increase the skill of the NA scene? Not really, they just got slaughtered. I also doubt a korean would be willing to travel for what's probably a 2k or less prize for first place for 6 months worth of playing If Koreans and foreigners would've never played together in tournaments the skill disparity would be even bigger than it currently is. The most efficient way of learning is by playing against people who are better. Anyway, nice to see some action in LA.
Yes, you learn better when you play against people who are better. But... you don't learn much in a tournament when you play a guy twice? You are still practicing with other foreigners.
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I'm so happy to be a part of this, I seriously think this might help to improve the level of the Latin american scene, such a big event is bound to make some fellow nerds grind the ladder a little bit harder 
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I bet we'll see a continent exclusive for Australia/SEA next
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props to the argentina and brazil community for make this happen... this is what WCS NA was supposed to be in 1st place, blizzard is correcting a mistake, but hopefully they see it and transform the wcs NA on WCS AMERICA, abolish the copa america and make the community on the entire america, not only USA
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On June 22 2013 11:56 cladoliver wrote: props to the argentina and brazil community for make this happen... this is what WCS NA was supposed to be in 1st place, blizzard is correcting a mistake, but hopefully they see it and transform the wcs NA on WCS AMERICA, abolish the copa america and make the community on the entire america, not only USA There is no WCS NA. The WCS we have here is WCS America. Everyone from the continent can participate in it (and some not from it), not only the people from USA. So my fellows latin americans can participate in the qualifiers for it.
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yeah but, we both know thats barely impossible to qualify with the koreans caming out, we have no help on LA to play this game, in brazil i think only 1 player have a little sponsor...
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On June 22 2013 12:13 cladoliver wrote: yeah but, we both know thats barely impossible to qualify with the koreans caming out, we have no help on LA to play this game, in brazil i think only 1 player have a little sponsor...
Yeah, Very nice on Blizzards part. But LA/South America hard to create a scene with 95% has poverty issues. Only a blessed handful of people can afford to play starcraft 2 full time.
Catz kinda does not count since he went to school in USA and is American who moved back to SA.
But the LA//SA natives have a very hard time, so much chaos in these countries. Hopefully this will help the very few in the scene. And I think North Americans/Euros/Koreans would have major issues traveling to a lot of these locations with their gear ect. I go to parts of Peru/Mexico every other year, Very Chaotic.
Glad to see money invested over there.
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Might want to get some English casting for greater exposure, audiance and add revenues.
Regardless, good luck with your tourny and I hope it grows your scene.
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On June 21 2013 14:07 MajOr wrote: how to sign up oo?
GOGO MajOr! <3
And props to blizzard for this!
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On June 21 2013 12:38 MisterFred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 12:33 JP Dayne wrote: I think the reason they didn't invite koreans, europeans or north americans was so they could promote their compadres I think that even simple korean in master league would wipe it all Catz, Major, Capoche, and some of the other Latin American guys (is killer still active? and that other good Mexican player) have a higher skill level than the average masters-league Korean.
Killer is very much active, in my opinion he's the best player in South America.
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I like the concept. For this year at least. I think in the long run, we should be able to send at least one player to WCS, as a LA representative. Also, the prize pool is kinda of a joke, its not the kinda of money that allows players to go pro. If the top 16 got some real money (like 2k each), the top players would be able to support themselves just on the prize pool and therefore dedicate themselves to starcraft fulltime. In Brazil there are some dedicated players but there is no source of income to this players so they can never really go pro, unless they are picked up by a pro team from NA or EU. Maybe this tornament will get enough audience that in the future local sponsers will get interested. But thats a hard sell, becouse we do not have many computer related companies here, and I find it hard to believe that a Telephone company or a Bank or some other huge non tech related company will sponser a SC2 team in LA.
But all in all I find that it might have an long term effect on building a bigger local audience, and if thats proves true, the money will eventually come, becouse if there is an audience, there will be sponsers.
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those of Venezuela now demonstrate that we are proud to be Venezuelan hechoosssssssss! : puh
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On June 21 2013 12:28 Zenbrez wrote: Did inviting koreans to MLGs in 2011 increase the skill of the NA scene? Not really, they just got slaughtered. I also doubt a korean would be willing to travel for what's probably a 2k or less prize for first place for 6 months worth of playing
Scarlette winning proleague games says hi
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Oh wow, just saw there is a player from El Salvador in the player list. Go Josh1a!
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Hey, it's Argie casting! I have only seen his name on others streams when dropping out of games before. :D
Edit: Wait, Major lost 0-2 to Argentinian zerg player Jony?! Edit2: Apparently he didn't check in *click*
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those of Venezuela now demonstrate that we are proud to be Venezuelan hechoosssssssss! : puh
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On June 22 2013 12:28 LingBlingBling wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 12:13 cladoliver wrote: yeah but, we both know thats barely impossible to qualify with the koreans caming out, we have no help on LA to play this game, in brazil i think only 1 player have a little sponsor... Yeah, Very nice on Blizzards part. But LA/South America hard to create a scene with 95% has poverty issues. Only a blessed handful of people can afford to play starcraft 2 full time. Catz kinda does not count since he went to school in USA and is American who moved back to SA. But the LA//SA natives have a very hard time, so much chaos in these countries. Hopefully this will help the very few in the scene. And I think North Americans/Euros/Koreans would have major issues traveling to a lot of these locations with their gear ect. I go to parts of Peru/Mexico every other year, Very Chaotic. Glad to see money invested over there.
I dont really believe you haven been in Mexico if you think like that... Or maybe you just went to a little town in the middle of nowhere. Also IEM has made sometournaments in Brazil, and we had WCS Southamerica last year so..no, it not like people have issues playing in this region.
But i think this is a response to League of leaguends actually, Riot recently opened not one, but two new servers for Latinamérican and has been organizing tournaments, this is Blizzard way of trying to help the scene and dont let LoL become bigger than what it is now.
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Very nice day1 ! Looking forward to day2 !
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I wonder what Catz will think. I think it is pretty cool, since this region doesn't have anything. But latin america does have stars in killer, catz, major, to name the big ones you see at most of the events.
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On June 21 2013 12:33 JP Dayne wrote: I think the reason they didn't invite koreans, europeans or north americans was so they could promote their compadres I think that even simple korean in master league would wipe it all
You serious? Major didn't even make it out the first round son
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How do I sign up for this? can't find a link to signups. If it is too late then when is the next one?
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On July 04 2013 23:15 iMpZen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 12:33 JP Dayne wrote: I think the reason they didn't invite koreans, europeans or north americans was so they could promote their compadres I think that even simple korean in master league would wipe it all You serious? Major didn't even make it out the first round son
who's major? he doesnt seem to be a korean
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On July 04 2013 23:15 iMpZen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 12:33 JP Dayne wrote: I think the reason they didn't invite koreans, europeans or north americans was so they could promote their compadres I think that even simple korean in master league would wipe it all You serious? Major didn't even make it out the first round son
Major forfeited.
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Cool, Im glad to see blizzard is investing money into esports!
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Really great initaive! Sweeeeet!
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Chile vs Brazil in each semifinal. I hope that Brazil can win both, but i think the final will be Tunico vs Killer. Gogogo Brazil!!!!
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Today is the final match for season1 between cKiller and ROHJarppi, both from Chile. Winner takes points, some money and the pride of being season1 winner ! Will be awesome.
Don't miss it ! We'll have english stream as well ! Check TL calendar for details
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Tonight (08/22) the Season 2 playoff starts with Major and Killer being the big names. Brackets are here http://copaamerica.starcraft2.com/bracket-40. I believe all games will be broadcasted in Portuguese/Spanish streams.
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JimRising vs. Killer, BLord vs. Major, semifinals tonight! Where's the hype? This should be in SC2 Tourneys forum I think.
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Good stuff ^^ Glad LA scene seems to be growing.
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Looking like a Killer vs. Major finals :D
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On August 24 2013 09:09 pigmanbear wrote: JimRising vs. Killer, BLord vs. Major, semifinals tonight! Where's the hype? This should be in SC2 Tourneys forum I think. Well it's because a bunch of no names, and killer and major. It's a how many games til major wins tournament
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On August 24 2013 10:22 iAmJeffReY wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 09:09 pigmanbear wrote: JimRising vs. Killer, BLord vs. Major, semifinals tonight! Where's the hype? This should be in SC2 Tourneys forum I think. Well it's because a bunch of no names, and killer and major. It's a how many games til major wins tournament Major could lose, stranger things have happened. Killer spent some time in Korea too. It's fun to see the other guys go at it in any case. JimRising and Killer showed some good ZvZ today.
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lol BLord had Major down to 3 SCV, somehow managing to throw this.
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On August 24 2013 10:26 pigmanbear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 10:22 iAmJeffReY wrote:On August 24 2013 09:09 pigmanbear wrote: JimRising vs. Killer, BLord vs. Major, semifinals tonight! Where's the hype? This should be in SC2 Tourneys forum I think. Well it's because a bunch of no names, and killer and major. It's a how many games til major wins tournament Major could lose, stranger things have happened. Killer spent some time in Korea too. It's fun to see the other guys go at it in any case. JimRising and Killer showed some good ZvZ today. Killer is the only one with a chance to take major out. His ZvT is always good. But major is putting on a clinic of ass rape.
First you bend them over, then you insert.
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