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WCS AM Season 2 to be run by NASL and Blizzard - Page 11

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SanchoPanda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States117 Posts
June 18 2013 17:44 GMT
#201
BEST NEWS I'VE HEARD SO FAR THIS SUMMER!!!

Can't wait <3
Siege the Day!
FrodaN
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
754 Posts
June 18 2013 17:44 GMT
#202
On June 19 2013 02:13 turdburgler wrote:
what money did they spend exactly? they hired no new staff, held it in their studio that is already paid for and blizzard at least covered prize money. if you cant make money in a tourney like that, you have no hope. compare it to ESL who are in the same situation, and they put on a lot of extra work for their WCS league, and it was great. so unless you are saying that 200-400k hours of ad revenue is enough to make or break WCS i dont see how mlg can be happy to move away from it. and if you cant make money on NA times with limited additional outlay, why are NASL to eager to move in to hosting it?


Flights, hotels, the set, Axeltoss+Axslav, equipment, graphics packages (way more $$ than you think), production team, and many more hidden costs that will be forever unknown.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 17:46:31
June 18 2013 17:45 GMT
#203
On June 19 2013 02:42 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 02:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Crossposting this from Reddit

So here's my personal opinion on this based on what I know of the situation of the last few months.

NASL is in a better position to produce the kind of format that WCS demands. They have more experience, 2 casting teams, the production crew and the facilities to do that daily content. It's what NASL are. NASL live finals are hardly the best things in the world, more often than not lack-luster, it's not their speciality. Their speciality is that daily show and the supporting content that is created around it. I honestly doubt we'll see a big leap in viewers. As much as its the popular opinion to suggest that less popular casters drag the viewer count down significantly it's really not the case at all. The lack of EU audience is what kills WCS America and it always will if it continues at that timeslot.


Show nested quote +
The entire team at NASL is quite thrilled for this opportunity, and looks forward to once again broadcast exciting daily StarCraft II competition. While the team gets ready to ramp up for the Season 2 offline events, Blizzard will operate the WCS America Season 2 Challenger League and Premier League round of 32. Of course, as the NASL casters are quite eager to cast StarCraft II, they will pop in each week to help cast some of the Challenger League and Premier League matches, as well.


NASL being good at what they did won't count for anything when they aren't doing much at all during the regular season.
Blizz screwing up once again.
They will be getting the IGN guys presumably to run most of the show, and NASL was so ridiculously much better than IPL in terms of the overall show there's almost no point in bothering with the whole debacle once again, as Blizz look like they are giving with one hand by involving NASL, then taking away by not using NASL's main strengths.


Are you kidding me? Put away your pitchfork and wait for a whole day before you go all internet outraged. You have no idea how this is going to be run or who is doing what. Stop digging through the press release just to find something to be pissed about.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
June 18 2013 17:45 GMT
#204
didnt think MLG did that bad. Maybe they just took too much flack and said F it lol. But regardless, glad NASL is back up and running !
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 17:45:34
June 18 2013 17:45 GMT
#205
I'll hold my horses until I see NASL/ex-IPL in action, but I'm cautiously optimistic about this. Also, MLG getting to do their regular, huge Pro Circuit events is a great thing to me - I've always loved their events, despite some of the issues they've had (and also Life won 2)
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Fries
Profile Joined August 2010
United States124 Posts
June 18 2013 17:45 GMT
#206
On June 19 2013 02:42 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 02:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Crossposting this from Reddit

So here's my personal opinion on this based on what I know of the situation of the last few months.

NASL is in a better position to produce the kind of format that WCS demands. They have more experience, 2 casting teams, the production crew and the facilities to do that daily content. It's what NASL are. NASL live finals are hardly the best things in the world, more often than not lack-luster, it's not their speciality. Their speciality is that daily show and the supporting content that is created around it. I honestly doubt we'll see a big leap in viewers. As much as its the popular opinion to suggest that less popular casters drag the viewer count down significantly it's really not the case at all. The lack of EU audience is what kills WCS America and it always will if it continues at that timeslot.


Show nested quote +
The entire team at NASL is quite thrilled for this opportunity, and looks forward to once again broadcast exciting daily StarCraft II competition. While the team gets ready to ramp up for the Season 2 offline events, Blizzard will operate the WCS America Season 2 Challenger League and Premier League round of 32. Of course, as the NASL casters are quite eager to cast StarCraft II, they will pop in each week to help cast some of the Challenger League and Premier League matches, as well.


NASL being good at what they did won't count for anything when they aren't doing much at all during the regular season.
Blizz screwing up once again.
They will be getting the IGN guys presumably to run most of the show, and NASL was so ridiculously much better than IPL in terms of the overall show there's almost no point in bothering with the whole debacle once again, as Blizz look like they are giving with one hand by involving NASL, then taking away by not using NASL's main strengths.


My impression is this is just a transitional period as NASL gets ready. I doubt every season will be this way.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
June 18 2013 17:46 GMT
#207
I am going to miss Axslav

Hopefully NASL pull off something special and peoples confidence in them is returned.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
June 18 2013 17:47 GMT
#208
On June 19 2013 02:38 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 02:36 DavoS wrote:
See guys, keep your pitchforks sharpened and we can make the world a better place

I don't think it had much to do with pitch forks at all. MLG opted out of WCS and didn't want to do it in the first place.


Then why do it? Whats the difference of bailing out before the start or after just one freaking season. It all sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. This is exactly like the weak ass GSL production and excuses we got last week. All i hear are excuses why something was or wasn't possible.

And dont tell me, like TB is suggesting, that MLG was forced to run it because then as MLG make a statement with not running it and let the community grab the pitchforks towards Blizzard. But hey if thats true then MLG likes to bend over i guess and i was rating them to high even after all the fuck ups they make on a regular basis.

This hole thing is a joke, and even worse then OGN/GOM nonsense.
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
June 18 2013 17:48 GMT
#209
FUCK YEAH THEY DID IT
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
June 18 2013 17:48 GMT
#210
I hope this works out to be the best solution for everyone. MLG gets to refocus its business model and NASL gets a place in WCS. (And Blizz can make use of its former IGN-team staff.)
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
June 18 2013 17:48 GMT
#211
Why didn't they just get NASL to do it completely? I suppose Blizzard wants to use their new crew for something, though that was a pretty bad investment if you ask me. Heh.

Couldn't be worse than what it was though, right?
thunder54
Profile Joined March 2011
38 Posts
June 18 2013 17:49 GMT
#212
Thank GOD, finally it's how it should be.

MLG doing great weekends, NASL doing the league so happy right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FluffyBinLaden
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States527 Posts
June 18 2013 17:49 GMT
#213
Excellent news. Good luck, NASL! We await you eagerly.
Riddles in the Dark. Answers in the Light.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 17:53:28
June 18 2013 17:51 GMT
#214
On June 19 2013 02:47 TheSir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 02:38 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:36 DavoS wrote:
See guys, keep your pitchforks sharpened and we can make the world a better place

I don't think it had much to do with pitch forks at all. MLG opted out of WCS and didn't want to do it in the first place.


Then why do it? Whats the difference of bailing out before the start or after just one freaking season. It all sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. This is exactly like the weak ass GSL production and excuses we got last week. All i hear are excuses why something was or wasn't possible.

And dont tell me, like TB is suggesting, that MLG was forced to run it because then as MLG make a statement with not running it and let the community grab the pitchforks towards Blizzard. But hey if thats true then MLG likes to bend over i guess and i was rating them to high even after all the fuck ups they make on a regular basis.

This hole thing is a joke, and even worse then OGN/GOM nonsense.


You mean the deep rooted Korean business practices nonsense? The kind that has been going on for decades. The kind that SC2 and Blizzard cannot fix with brute force. OGN is a large broadcast company and not someone Blizzard can just push around and tell them what to do.

But your entitled to your opinion and can think it is bullshit. I am inclined to believe them, since TB has never lied to me before. The same with the GSL issues. I have no reason to think any of those people are bullshitting me.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
June 18 2013 17:52 GMT
#215
Great news for WCS NA. The MLG-ran events were pretty awful.

Bitterdam alone will draw double viewership.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
June 18 2013 17:52 GMT
#216
awesome news. I love those MLG weekend things. I think NASL has plenty more experience running season-style leagues than MLG
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 18 2013 17:52 GMT
#217
Great news for MLG.
dreaming of a sunny day
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 18 2013 17:52 GMT
#218
On June 19 2013 02:47 TheSir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 02:38 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:36 DavoS wrote:
See guys, keep your pitchforks sharpened and we can make the world a better place

I don't think it had much to do with pitch forks at all. MLG opted out of WCS and didn't want to do it in the first place.


Then why do it? Whats the difference of bailing out before the start or after just one freaking season. It all sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. This is exactly like the weak ass GSL production and excuses we got last week. All i hear are excuses why something was or wasn't possible.

And dont tell me, like TB is suggesting, that MLG was forced to run it because then as MLG make a statement with not running it and let the community grab the pitchforks towards Blizzard. But hey if thats true then MLG likes to bend over i guess and i was rating them to high even after all the fuck ups they make on a regular basis.

This hole thing is a joke, and even worse then OGN/GOM nonsense.

Based upon your equivalence of this situation and the OGN/GOM one, I'm going to assume you haven't allowed any consideration for the internal politics of the WCS setup. I have no idea what went on, but image being given a few weeks to set up the largest tournament your game has ever created and trying to bang out everything both logically and legally. Was MLG supposed to say no to the people who permit them to use a game with a large fanbase in major competition, a game that makes them money? Certainly not.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 18 2013 17:53 GMT
#219
HNGGGG YES

This is pretty good D:

Was scared bitterdam and frotorp were stuck just casting tanks all day, glad to see that's not happening.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
June 18 2013 17:54 GMT
#220
Pretty good news all round, MLG can go back to what they do best in producing their own events, and the NASL gets back into the limelight.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
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