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WCS AM Season 2 to be run by NASL and Blizzard - Page 12

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Fearest
Profile Joined September 2011
854 Posts
June 18 2013 17:54 GMT
#221
it was clear from the beginning that MLG just put minimal effort into WCS America. Honestly, I don't think NASL will save WCS America, the level of play is just so low it's boring to watch when the Korean/EU scene is much more developed.

I say we take out WCS America altogether and have that pool prize go into KR/EU.
philliechease
Profile Joined February 2013
United States16 Posts
June 18 2013 17:54 GMT
#222
BITTERDAM!!!!!! YESSSSSS
Team Grubby! :D
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
June 18 2013 17:54 GMT
#223
YESSS FINALLY NASL!!! :D Looking forward to the NASL casts.
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 18 2013 17:55 GMT
#224
On June 19 2013 02:52 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 02:47 TheSir wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:38 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:36 DavoS wrote:
See guys, keep your pitchforks sharpened and we can make the world a better place

I don't think it had much to do with pitch forks at all. MLG opted out of WCS and didn't want to do it in the first place.


Then why do it? Whats the difference of bailing out before the start or after just one freaking season. It all sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. This is exactly like the weak ass GSL production and excuses we got last week. All i hear are excuses why something was or wasn't possible.

And dont tell me, like TB is suggesting, that MLG was forced to run it because then as MLG make a statement with not running it and let the community grab the pitchforks towards Blizzard. But hey if thats true then MLG likes to bend over i guess and i was rating them to high even after all the fuck ups they make on a regular basis.

This hole thing is a joke, and even worse then OGN/GOM nonsense.

Based upon your equivalence of this situation and the OGN/GOM one, I'm going to assume you haven't allowed any consideration for the internal politics of the WCS setup. I have no idea what went on, but image being given a few weeks to set up the largest tournament your game has ever created and trying to bang out everything both logically and legally. Was MLG supposed to say no to the people who permit them to use a game with a large fanbase in major competition, a game that makes them money? Certainly not.


Also the same company that also owns Call of Duty, which they also run major competitions for. There is no way you say "no" to them if they come and push for you do do something.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 18 2013 17:55 GMT
#225
Damn, and I was hoping for WCS with extended series.
Off-season = best season
Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
June 18 2013 17:56 GMT
#226
NASL fits the content better and with MLG free to run their big LANs we once again have a situation where WCS isn't removing all other Premier SC2 American based content.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 18 2013 17:56 GMT
#227
On June 19 2013 02:55 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 02:52 AgentW wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:47 TheSir wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:38 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2013 02:36 DavoS wrote:
See guys, keep your pitchforks sharpened and we can make the world a better place

I don't think it had much to do with pitch forks at all. MLG opted out of WCS and didn't want to do it in the first place.


Then why do it? Whats the difference of bailing out before the start or after just one freaking season. It all sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. This is exactly like the weak ass GSL production and excuses we got last week. All i hear are excuses why something was or wasn't possible.

And dont tell me, like TB is suggesting, that MLG was forced to run it because then as MLG make a statement with not running it and let the community grab the pitchforks towards Blizzard. But hey if thats true then MLG likes to bend over i guess and i was rating them to high even after all the fuck ups they make on a regular basis.

This hole thing is a joke, and even worse then OGN/GOM nonsense.

Based upon your equivalence of this situation and the OGN/GOM one, I'm going to assume you haven't allowed any consideration for the internal politics of the WCS setup. I have no idea what went on, but image being given a few weeks to set up the largest tournament your game has ever created and trying to bang out everything both logically and legally. Was MLG supposed to say no to the people who permit them to use a game with a large fanbase in major competition, a game that makes them money? Certainly not.


Also the same company that also owns Call of Duty, which they also run major competitions for. There is no way you say "no" to them if they come and push for you do do something.

Forgot about that (are they still connected, I thought I read something about a split). You don't tell the people who make you money to piss off and expect to keep making money.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Fries
Profile Joined August 2010
United States124 Posts
June 18 2013 17:59 GMT
#228
On June 19 2013 02:54 Fearest wrote:
it was clear from the beginning that MLG just put minimal effort into WCS America. Honestly, I don't think NASL will save WCS America, the level of play is just so low it's boring to watch when the Korean/EU scene is much more developed.

I say we take out WCS America altogether and have that pool prize go into KR/EU.


Sweet idea. That will help grow the scene. Watch whatever you want. Plenty of people watched season one of NA.
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
June 18 2013 18:01 GMT
#229
This should have been done before. NASL (along with blizzard/ex-IPL crew) and ESL handle the WCS league. MLG and Dreamhack will provide the primer LANs. Each major foreign group doing what they do best.

NASL leagues had been lackluster but their LAN finals have yielded some great games.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 18 2013 18:01 GMT
#230
On June 19 2013 02:54 Fearest wrote:
it was clear from the beginning that MLG just put minimal effort into WCS America. Honestly, I don't think NASL will save WCS America, the level of play is just so low it's boring to watch when the Korean/EU scene is much more developed.

I say we take out WCS America altogether and have that pool prize go into KR/EU.

How about you just wanted KR/EU and let everyone else watch what they want? Sounds like a way better plan.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
June 18 2013 18:05 GMT
#231
It makes sense. I was pretty surprised that NASL didn't get it in the first place, since that's what they're good at.

MLG/Dreamhack hosting the super awesome tournements, and IEM/NASL doing what they are best at. This is how it was supposed to be from the beginning.
Bizeheryer
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany307 Posts
June 18 2013 18:05 GMT
#232
On June 19 2013 01:57 ramask2 wrote:
"NASL will be handling the LAN portion of the event, while Blizzard's own staff in San Francisco (the old IGN guys) will be handling much of the rest.".

....Wait.... what!? So who's going to be casting the online part of the tounament..????


The rock guy and David Kim himself.
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
June 18 2013 18:08 GMT
#233
Best thing to have happened. MLG is independent again and will re-inject their brand into the NA scene. Without them it's like EU not having dreamhack. And NASL while starting out shaky has continued to improve their production season after season, providing us with their own unique content as well.
Uranyl
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany38 Posts
June 18 2013 18:09 GMT
#234
Is this really happening? Sooo hyped!
Differentiated intolerance is sometimes more tolerance, than undifferentiated tolerance. - Serdar Somuncu -
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
June 18 2013 18:10 GMT
#235
Its perfect. IM HAPPY
Sc2 always got your back
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 18 2013 18:11 GMT
#236
On June 19 2013 03:05 Bizeheryer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 01:57 ramask2 wrote:
"NASL will be handling the LAN portion of the event, while Blizzard's own staff in San Francisco (the old IGN guys) will be handling much of the rest.".

....Wait.... what!? So who's going to be casting the online part of the tounament..????


The rock guy and David Kim himself.

That would be quite interesting tough to have the developers cast, great way to test their knowledge.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 18 2013 18:11 GMT
#237
This is great news, NASL will do an excellent job
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 18 2013 18:12 GMT
#238
I do hope NASL can get a toe in the door with casting and such. They have a decent setup and experience doing this kind of stuff.
dreaming of a sunny day
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
June 18 2013 18:17 GMT
#239
On June 19 2013 03:05 Bizeheryer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 01:57 ramask2 wrote:
"NASL will be handling the LAN portion of the event, while Blizzard's own staff in San Francisco (the old IGN guys) will be handling much of the rest.".

....Wait.... what!? So who's going to be casting the online part of the tounament..????


The rock guy and David Kim himself.


i would watch just for the casting if this were to happen. I bet David Kim insight might be pretty decent but "rock guy" would just be like OMG THAT IS AWESOME!! take down the rocks ahahahahha. I would love to see this too bad is just a wish
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 18:26:33
June 18 2013 18:17 GMT
#240
WCS AM has been an excuse filled debacle.

Now that NASL is involved we can get another 3 months of excuses about how it is "their first time running WCS".

What a complete mess WCS AM has become.
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