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On June 10 2013 15:02 larse wrote: Korean websites are all saying Ro32 in OSL premier league will be the traditional BO1 !!
BO1!
Not sure how much I like this, tradition is important but bo1 has the potential to make upsets in the ro32 happen that shouldn't otherwise happen. WCS KR is already the most difficult region to play in, we don't need to make it more punishing.
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Israel2209 Posts
It won't be easy choosing between the OGN stream with DoA and crowd shots and great player-face zoom-ins, or the GOMTV stream with Tastosis and nothing else.
This choice was much easier for the WCS S1 finals with Apollo & Day9 and the lounge etc.
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On June 10 2013 15:04 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 15:02 larse wrote: Korean websites are all saying Ro32 in OSL premier league will be the traditional BO1 !!
BO1! Not sure how much I like this, tradition is important but bo1 has the potential to make upsets in the ro32 happen that shouldn't otherwise happen. WCS KR is already the most difficult region to play in, we don't need to make it more punishing.
Pretty much my thoughts. Forgo tradition for the sake of making the first round competition not completely stupid, please. This isn't BW.
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Perhaps the decision for Bo1 was due to constraints in broadcast time.
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GOMTV will run the entire Challenger League.
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
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On June 10 2013 15:18 MCXD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 15:04 Dodgin wrote:On June 10 2013 15:02 larse wrote: Korean websites are all saying Ro32 in OSL premier league will be the traditional BO1 !!
BO1! Not sure how much I like this, tradition is important but bo1 has the potential to make upsets in the ro32 happen that shouldn't otherwise happen. WCS KR is already the most difficult region to play in, we don't need to make it more punishing. Pretty much my thoughts. Forgo tradition for the sake of making the first round competition not completely stupid, please. This isn't BW.
at least all maps are preset. loser will have only himself to blame with max 3 known maps to prepare
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On June 10 2013 15:04 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 15:02 larse wrote: Korean websites are all saying Ro32 in OSL premier league will be the traditional BO1 !!
BO1! Not sure how much I like this, tradition is important but bo1 has the potential to make upsets in the ro32 happen that shouldn't otherwise happen. WCS KR is already the most difficult region to play in, we don't need to make it more punishing.
Oh man Bo1's I look forward to the LR raging (including myself)
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I really don't like this. Im not a big fan of OGN so far in SC2, think they did an extremely disapointing job with the WCS finals...
Also if its really true that they make it Bo1 in Ro32, that would be extremely sad - and would be a huuuge turnoff for me. Im actualy looking way more forward to WCS europe season 2 this time around then the WCS Korea.
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What? If you can´t handle Bo3 ro32, then give it back to Gom, please. I´d also find it really strange if the WCS competitions would deviate that strongly, while should provide the same format. I mean, that´s the idea behind it. You don´t play 80 minutes football in Korea.
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On June 10 2013 15:11 Noam wrote: It won't be easy choosing between the OGN stream with DoA and crowd shots and great player-face zoom-ins, or the GOMTV stream with Tastosis and nothing else.
This choice was much easier for the WCS S1 finals with Apollo & Day9 and the lounge etc.
Bogus POV!
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I really hope they drop the BO1. It's not that long to run the RO32 in BO3, GOM does it every time...
Not only the BO1s suck because they can create a weaker top 5 by creating fake upset in the begining, but it also means less matches for us :-(
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On June 10 2013 08:43 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 08:36 GulpyBlinkeyes wrote: So is GSTL the only SC2 tournament that Gom will be running during the WCS season 2 timeframe? I know the agreement prohibits them from broadcasting a competing event at the same time, but that seems like a long time for Gom to have so little going on. GOM will be running Code A and GSTL, as well as broadcasting the Starleague not on location like OGN was doing during this past season. I forgot about Code A, aka "Challenge League". That's pretty cool that GomTV will still be the on-site broadcasters for Code A during Season 2 (while remote casting Premier league).
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Bo1 would be horrific. They can't be serious about that, imo :-/ It's ok in Team leagues, because one loss isn't that big of a deal there, but in an individual league... it's just too punishing and will result in a huge cheese fest.
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On June 10 2013 16:20 DasHawk wrote: I really don't like this. Im not a big fan of OGN so far in SC2, think they did an extremely disapointing job with the WCS finals...
Also if its really true that they make it Bo1 in Ro32, that would be extremely sad - and would be a huuuge turnoff for me. Im actualy looking way more forward to WCS europe season 2 this time around then the WCS Korea.
I'd say that the only ways that Gom has better production are English casting and sometimes observing. OGN has better stream quality, camera production, intros and venues.
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United Kingdom12022 Posts
On June 10 2013 15:18 MCXD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 15:04 Dodgin wrote:On June 10 2013 15:02 larse wrote: Korean websites are all saying Ro32 in OSL premier league will be the traditional BO1 !!
BO1! Not sure how much I like this, tradition is important but bo1 has the potential to make upsets in the ro32 happen that shouldn't otherwise happen. WCS KR is already the most difficult region to play in, we don't need to make it more punishing. Pretty much my thoughts. Forgo tradition for the sake of making the first round competition not completely stupid, please. This isn't BW.
I've never understood this at all. BW was just as unforgiving for cheese as HoTS is so what's the big deal? The better player should always and mostly will always win the first game in a Bo3, in which case it just means they go through rather than the other guy having a chance to bring it back.
Being the best means you have to be the best in all situations, not just "Best of" matches. It's about knowing when to prepare cheese and when to play it safe in a Bo1, if anything I'd say Bo1 leads to more interesting games as both players know everything is on the line and will fight harder for the game.
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On June 10 2013 17:55 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 15:18 MCXD wrote:On June 10 2013 15:04 Dodgin wrote:On June 10 2013 15:02 larse wrote: Korean websites are all saying Ro32 in OSL premier league will be the traditional BO1 !!
BO1! Not sure how much I like this, tradition is important but bo1 has the potential to make upsets in the ro32 happen that shouldn't otherwise happen. WCS KR is already the most difficult region to play in, we don't need to make it more punishing. Pretty much my thoughts. Forgo tradition for the sake of making the first round competition not completely stupid, please. This isn't BW. I've never understood this at all. BW was just as unforgiving for cheese as HoTS is so what's the big deal? The better player should always and mostly will always win the first game in a Bo3, in which case it just means they go through rather than the other guy having a chance to bring it back. Being the best means you have to be the best in all situations, not just "Best of" matches. It's about knowing when to prepare cheese and when to play it safe in a Bo1, if anything I'd say Bo1 leads to more interesting games as both players know everything is on the line and will fight harder for the game.
It's more about consistency within WCS, it doesn't make sense for me to have KR be the most competitive region and the most unforgiving region, when the other regions give the same amount of money. If this was just OSL I would be fine with it.
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On June 10 2013 17:55 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 15:18 MCXD wrote:On June 10 2013 15:04 Dodgin wrote:On June 10 2013 15:02 larse wrote: Korean websites are all saying Ro32 in OSL premier league will be the traditional BO1 !!
BO1! Not sure how much I like this, tradition is important but bo1 has the potential to make upsets in the ro32 happen that shouldn't otherwise happen. WCS KR is already the most difficult region to play in, we don't need to make it more punishing. Pretty much my thoughts. Forgo tradition for the sake of making the first round competition not completely stupid, please. This isn't BW. I've never understood this at all. BW was just as unforgiving for cheese as HoTS is so what's the big deal? The better player should always and mostly will always win the first game in a Bo3, in which case it just means they go through rather than the other guy having a chance to bring it back. Being the best means you have to be the best in all situations, not just "Best of" matches. It's about knowing when to prepare cheese and when to play it safe in a Bo1, if anything I'd say Bo1 leads to more interesting games as both players know everything is on the line and will fight harder for the game.
Nicely said.
On a side note, that video at the end gave me chills. Seeing Boxer, Yellow, Nada, Xellos... damn times have passed.
edit - Plus I think the Bo1 is also due to time constraints because its on national TV unlike Gom (correct me if Im wrong).
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On June 10 2013 18:12 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 17:55 Qikz wrote:On June 10 2013 15:18 MCXD wrote:On June 10 2013 15:04 Dodgin wrote:On June 10 2013 15:02 larse wrote: Korean websites are all saying Ro32 in OSL premier league will be the traditional BO1 !!
BO1! Not sure how much I like this, tradition is important but bo1 has the potential to make upsets in the ro32 happen that shouldn't otherwise happen. WCS KR is already the most difficult region to play in, we don't need to make it more punishing. Pretty much my thoughts. Forgo tradition for the sake of making the first round competition not completely stupid, please. This isn't BW. I've never understood this at all. BW was just as unforgiving for cheese as HoTS is so what's the big deal? The better player should always and mostly will always win the first game in a Bo3, in which case it just means they go through rather than the other guy having a chance to bring it back. Being the best means you have to be the best in all situations, not just "Best of" matches. It's about knowing when to prepare cheese and when to play it safe in a Bo1, if anything I'd say Bo1 leads to more interesting games as both players know everything is on the line and will fight harder for the game. It's more about consistency within WCS, it doesn't make sense for me to have KR be the most competitive region and the most unforgiving region, when the other regions give the same amount of money. If this was just OSL I would be fine with it.
I've never valued the prestige of WCS so much. Why dont you just simply enjoy the OSL. Them Koreans will be compensated for the prize cut in a weekend tourney called season finals later
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