EPTSC2 Power Rank - June 2013 - Page 18
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SoFrOsTy
United States525 Posts
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On June 05 2013 09:21 opterown wrote: where's polt well, hes american now, cant avoid that curse. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3811 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
Love the list! | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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1raxexpand
United States165 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
On June 05 2013 16:59 Grovbolle wrote: Not even a mention of Aligulac... I am disappoint son. Well Aligulac is equivalent of TLPD + nicer statistical estimation which by very definition are very unlike the idea behind Power Rank which is willing to give a ton of credit for short series of winnings etc. | ||
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p14c
Vatican City State431 Posts
On June 05 2013 17:14 1raxexpand wrote: Rain\Roro\Symbol shouldn't be above Life. Life could have easily 3-0ed any player that those players beat in code S/A. Life still has the best ZvT, and is very solid in other match ups. This list is too proleague biased. Stop with the "could have... would have BS". This power rank is based on accomplishments not on wishful thinking. Last month Life didn't really do that good. This is the fact. PS: I highly doubt Life wins a ZvZ vs Roro. Don't you remember the last time they meet? Roro destroyed Life easily... | ||
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1raxexpand
United States165 Posts
On June 05 2013 17:17 p14c wrote: Stop with the "could have... would have BS". This power rank is based on accomplishments not on wishful thinking. Last month Life didn't really do that good. This is the fact. PS: I highly doubt Life wins a ZvZ vs Roro. Don't you remember the last time they meet? Roro destroyed Life easily... But Life wiped the floor with Flash every time they meet. Flash was 2-0ed out of his group. How do you justify Flash on #3? | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On June 05 2013 17:20 1raxexpand wrote: But Life wiped the floor with Flash every time they meet. Flash was 2-0ed out of his group. How do you justify Flash on #3? Some other things happened in between, like him all killing teams in PL. I do think Life could rank higher but this is an estimation of current form. Life hasn't quite shown that dominant play in most recent games. | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
And Rain behind Flash is also questionable. But overall though this ranking sounds quite accurate. | ||
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PerSe
United Kingdom550 Posts
On June 05 2013 17:20 1raxexpand wrote: But Life wiped the floor with Flash every time they meet. Flash was 2-0ed out of his group. How do you justify Flash on #3? Have you seen Flash's record in R5 Proleague? He's easily in the top 5 in-form players, based both off gains on Aligulac and ELO. Furthermore Life's victories over Flash in MLG and that Asian Indoor tournament were more than a month ago, they're hardly recent. I don't think anyone would dispute that Life has a better head-to-head record than Flash but based off last month's results, there is little we can say about Life and a lot going for Flash. I'd say the top 4 in the rankings are accurate enough. Innovation has had a real steamer in the GSL, though I honestly believe Soulkey is the superior player to both Innovation and Flash over all three match ups. Flash's TvP in HOTS is looking quite shaky (while his TvT and TvZ are looking stellar), and I have similar doubts with Innovation's TvT (though yes he does have the world's best TvZ). Doesn't Soulkey have the best wins-loss ratio in Proleague, or is that Rain? | ||
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Elvedeta
Portugal395 Posts
On June 05 2013 17:20 1raxexpand wrote: But Life wiped the floor with Flash every time they meet. Flash was 2-0ed out of his group. How do you justify Flash on #3? Because this is not about head to head, it is about the player performance in ALL Month. Flash had a 15-2 record on ProLeague in the last round, that is an amazing record against some of the best Kespa players. You could say that it is "unfair" because Life is not in proleague, but the thing is, we saw very little of Life this month. Yes he is still one of the best in the world, but he did lose in the group phase in GSL and has not really played GSTL that much, so this month the only notable thing he did was indeed beat flash. That is all. | ||
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
On June 05 2013 17:20 1raxexpand wrote: But Life wiped the floor with Flash every time they meet. Flash was 2-0ed out of his group. How do you justify Flash on #3? With Results. Flash has excpetional Proleague record. Life has pretty much nothing going for him. He played 1 match in GSTL - he lost to NAKSEO. He finished GSL/WCS run in round of 16. He beat MarineKing 2-0 which considering how much slumping MKP is, is not an achievement. Flash on the other hand has excellent Proleague record. That's why Life's historical wiping floor with Flash is irrelevant. | ||
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[]Phase[]
Belgium927 Posts
(and secretly happy that LosirA isnt in the list : he just isnt that impressive of a player in my eyes, sorry kangho) | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
On June 05 2013 17:14 1raxexpand wrote: Flash\Rain\Roro\Symbol shouldn't be above Life. Life could have easily 3-0ed any player that those players beat in code S/A. Life still has the best ZvT, he murdered Flash in that match up. He is also very solid in other match ups. This list is too proleague biased. This is the 2nd thing I love in powerank, people commentaries. Fanboyism. No, Life doesn't deserve to be above Flash and Roro. No, Life couldn't easiliy 3-0 them. No, Life has no longer the best ZvT. Still a good zerg, but try to be subjective. Powerank is proleague biased because this is one of the most active league, the most hyped (since OSL and MSL no longer exist) with the highest level. | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On June 05 2013 17:26 PerSe wrote: Have you seen Flash's record in R5 Proleague? He's easily in the top 5 in-form players, based both off gains on Aligulac and ELO. Furthermore Life's victories over Flash in MLG and that Asian Indoor tournament were more than a month ago, they're hardly recent. I don't think anyone would dispute that Life has a better head-to-head record than Flash but based off last month's results, there is little we can say about Life and a lot going for Flash. I'd say the top 4 in the rankings are accurate enough. Innovation has had a real steamer in the GSL, though I honestly believe Soulkey is the superior player to both Innovation and Flash over all three match ups. Flash's TvP in HOTS is looking quite shaky (while his TvT and TvZ are looking stellar), and I have similar doubts with Innovation's TvT (though yes he does have the world's best TvZ). Doesn't Soulkey have the best wins-loss ratio in Proleague, or is that Rain? I'm pretty sure Rain has the best winrate in PL. Flash has a bit more wins but also much more matches played iirc. In percentage I think Rain is well ahead of everyone else in PL. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
HerO's having a flow at the time, he well deserved his tenth place. I just wish he'd go play GSL again, he'd be in for a ro32-ro8 finish I think, depending on his emotions. | ||
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PerSe
United Kingdom550 Posts
On June 05 2013 17:32 samurai80 wrote: I'm pretty sure Rain has the best winrate in PL. Flash has a bit more wins but also much more matches played iirc. In percentage I think Rain is well ahead of everyone else in PL. Yeah percentage/ratio-wise I had a feeling it was Rain (though from what I recall, Soulkey also has a pretty good percentage due to his low number of losses.) | ||
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