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SC2 Power Rank - June 2013 - Page 16

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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
June 05 2013 06:04 GMT
#301
Pretty nice ranking! I like that the TL writers now aren't completely disregarding PL results anymore. TY in CBNC was nice to see.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 05 2013 06:05 GMT
#302
On June 05 2013 14:51 Maloreon wrote:
No Leenock? Despite him winning a very difficult WCS point tournament in HoTS and having some of the best results and most powerful peak play of anyone. I find this list a little odd. I do get annoyed at how the writers here seem to only be able to remember the last tournament and its results and not see a bigger picture, even if it is only a 1-2 month period. Leenock should be top 5 no arguments.


Ehh, maybe in the close but no cigar area. Dreamhack is less notable than any of the WCS regions. Losing in the ro32 was understandable since it was the group of death, but then he went and lost to Bbyong (who he really should have beat) on his way back to code S. He hasn't been looking like the powerhouse he used to for FXO either in the GSTL.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Wedge
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
June 05 2013 06:08 GMT
#303
Thank god, love the POWER RANKINGS!

I remember poring over these so much back in BW, and loved seeing the arrows going up and down showing how much each player rose or dropped since the previous month.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 05 2013 06:09 GMT
#304
Lacks Bisu.
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
June 05 2013 06:11 GMT
#305
You guys nailed the Power Ranking right down to Innovation > Soulkey and Hero at 10th. Nice job, streets ahead of your last ill-fated power ranking
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 06:18:23
June 05 2013 06:16 GMT
#306
I'm speachless about how fair and ballsy this rank is.

No Forgg bullshit, giving Flash and Life deserved spots not relying purely on results; ballsy enough to put Innovation above Soulkey (agree 100%).

Superb picks overall (edit: And again coming from a monk based article ).
Chicken gank op
Prince_Stranger
Profile Joined November 2010
Kazakhstan762 Posts
June 05 2013 06:22 GMT
#307
Innovation over Soulkey? Also pointing out that this last month's power rank?
I don't know what happens in the future, maybe Inno takes down Soulkey, maybe he is better, but man this last month was definitely Soulkey's month.

Again about this mistake about 3 mediavacs. This is a game.
Those mistakes are the difference between the winner and looser.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong
KuKri
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany168 Posts
June 05 2013 06:23 GMT
#308
I'm happy the Power Rank is back, thank you, TL!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 06:34:22
June 05 2013 06:27 GMT
#309
I agree with this although HerO may be able to edge out Parting soon if he keeps performing well. Towards the end of WoL HerO would always beat Mvp which is the last head to head we have of those two and I do think he's been performing more consistently in both teamleagues and individual leagues, winning WCS AM and only barely losing to Leenock in the DH semis. Tough to rank Mvp though since he just very recently broke out of his slump and the first victims of his rage were foreigners.

The one thing I'd change is Roro in there. Very recently he's not been playing well at all and I think I'd rank Mvp above him and put Roro at #11 for the moment.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
1raxexpand
Profile Joined July 2012
United States165 Posts
June 05 2013 06:28 GMT
#310
On June 05 2013 13:53 forsooth wrote:
As much as I love Mvp, he definitely doesn't deserve a top 10 spot and I'm glad he was left off. His play was terrible at the very end of WoL and in HotS he hasn't proven himself against top competition yet. Beating up foreigners is nice and all but not worthy of consideration when talking about who's the best in the world.


The reason his play was terrible is because he didn't try very hard. He did just enough to get the Nestea award. Mvp is very money and award motivated, he said so many times in interviews. When there is no money on the line he doesn't care. Same reason he never does well on team league. Look at him now, winning easy money in EU and adding another premier tournament into his list of achievements.
I have no doubt that if mvp tried to stay in korea, he would have been able to make top 8. Bomber made it, so it is not that hard. But why make $2k in Korea where as it is much easier to make $20k in EU. He was the first A-teamer who made the switch to SC2 from BW when the competition was soft and there was plenty of money. Now he is the first top WoL player who switched to EU for the very same reason. That is just how he is, smart and practical. If getting into top 8 power rank meaning earning $2k while not being to attend season's finals, and being placed at #11 meaning making $20k and at least another $5k at the season's final, then of course mvp would rather be at #11.
Mvp-forGG-MKP-Bogus-Ty-MMA-Polt-Taeja-Flash
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
June 05 2013 06:30 GMT
#311
Awesome TL! I think Rain still needs to prove himself in GSL tho, PartinG is on 8 Code S seasons in a row ^^
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
June 05 2013 06:32 GMT
#312
I would chose Innovation.
hawk123
Profile Joined July 2009
United States77 Posts
June 05 2013 06:33 GMT
#313
On June 05 2013 09:16 Scville wrote:
Why Hero > Kangho and MVP?

Kangho almost won vs SoS and he 3-0'ed Bomber

I know, Hero is from teamliquid but come on lol, no way he is the 10th best player in the world.

''Life's only results this month were losing to NAKSEO in the GSTL and 2 - 0ing MarineKing in GSL. (But at this point, is 2 - 0ing MarineKing in ZvT really an accomplishment?)''

Of course, Life didn't play anything else.

You must not watch hero play lol
If you aren't the best, you aren't shit
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 05 2013 06:34 GMT
#314
On June 05 2013 09:27 Scarecrow wrote:
Agreed with it all except Hero at #10. There was hardly any serious competition in WCS America, just look at how deep Revival went.

you make it sound like WCS Europe was anymore difficult lol. I would say they are both on par or so. That and HerO competed in PL and did well enough there while mvp hasn't made much of an appearance.

Great list! Agree with most of it. I've heard horror stories about his games so glad he's not on the list XD
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
June 05 2013 06:35 GMT
#315
elephants everywhere
Power is nothing without control
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
June 05 2013 06:35 GMT
#316
1 win at a WCS final doesn't nessarily mean that SK dominates Innovation, even at least for this month. Overall, I think Innovation is stronger, his plays are cleaner, but Soulkey had the nerves to survive that series where both players were suffering emotionally.

Curious for the Season Finals. SK vs Innovation is definitely a possibility, and I want to see who the victor will be.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Enel
Profile Joined April 2012
Sudan430 Posts
June 05 2013 06:42 GMT
#317
Just call this the SPL Power rank.
Go Sudan
sam21023
Profile Joined March 2011
5 Posts
June 05 2013 06:42 GMT
#318
Hero lol, i dont even think Hero can compete in Code A, Soulkey should be above innovation tho.... innovation did well at SPL, but Soulkey too +GSL champ. Too much type for innovation, Soulkey beat sOs to the final, innovation beat symbol, sorri symbol just cheese to much and never impress me.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
June 05 2013 06:44 GMT
#319
Yeah the power rank is somewhat on lines with what I'd imagine it would be. I sort of knew opening this link that the writers would go Innovation > Soulkey > Flash somewhat in spite of GSL results for proleague.

GSTL unfortunately hasn't got the same pull, but also it's not a constant source of comparison between esf and kespa so things are blurry. I'm still waiting for a consolidation of it all, but that would require them to get along, so I'm not waiting forever for that.

Life at #7 is interesting. Feels like an attempt to not let go of his success not in May. Sure I can see Life winning anything at any time, but still he didn't.

Hopefully MVP spites you for making him #11. The last proper power rank he was in went something like "MVP is only here because he beat Flash. We'll never see him again." =P
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
June 05 2013 06:46 GMT
#320
Yeah SC2 PR!
Who votes on this by the way?
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