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On June 05 2013 05:34 Schelim wrote:
to this day i don't understand why people enjoy watching player streams so much, but more power to them as it does give the players moneys.
I watch player streams for two reasons:
1. If they are interesting/entertaining people.
2. If they play the race I do and are better than me (which isn't hard). It helps if they provide commentary so I can learn easier.
I think player streams allow for more chat community interaction as well. It's kind of like a forum where people can share ideas while watching their favorite personalities.
It's also just something interesting to watch while eating dinner or before bed instead of TV that won't teach you anything!
BTW, I just wanna say these monthly threads are amazing! Motivates me, too! 
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On June 04 2013 01:58 faintz wrote:Show nested quote +WCS AM has been struggling a bit, however. The finals had about half the viewers of WCS EU, and here we cannot use the time zone difference as an excuse. Or are there really so many more European Starcraft fans out there compared to American Starcraft fans? WCS AM has done consistently worse than WCS EU. What do you guys think is the reason for that? I'm especially interested in comments readers from the US/Americas on whether they watch WCS AM, or if they even prefer WCS EU over it. I've also added a poll to gauge the popularity of the various WCS regions to the bottom of the post. Do participate! WCS EU was exciting. There was constantly something going on in between games. There were great casters and a host who kept things entertaining, a small crowd added a little bit of excitement if someone won, The games were just better and had memorable moments (forgg vs stephano). To beat the dead horse a little more, EU had mostly EU players. Players that people want to watch. WCS AM was not exciting to watch at all. No crowd. Almost zero content outside of the games. No host. Long shots of the NY skyline and players room. Mediocre casting at best. When HerO won there was just dead silence followed by an awkward award ceremony. Oh yeah and the obvious... No NA players to actually root for.
This pretty much echo's my own opinion. WCS EU feels like an actual show, WCS AM feels like MLG grudgingly fulfilling an obligation to Blizzard while they nervously check to see if they can pay the bills next month. I believe that this is by far the biggest factor in determining the views.
Coupled with the fact that EU currently just has a sprinkling of Korean pros, enough to still give the viewers hope in a foreigner victory, AM on the other hand is fricking littered with them. Also EU's time zone does favour them in that they're more likely to score more EU and AM views. Those two secondary facts certainly mean that AM will always have an uphill struggle, but ultimately the unfortunate fact is that EU is just a better show/viewing experience in pretty much every way imaginable.
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Dat WCS EU Finals spike in viewers o0 :D
I am a bit disipointed with the viewernumbers for the NA finals, i enjoyed it alot (gameswise) and unlike most US tournament i liked the times it was broadcasted even for EU guys, not sure why it got only half the numbers on average.
Thanks for the info though, always cool to read stats and info !
Coupled with the fact that EU currently just has a sprinkling of Korean pros, enough to still give the viewers hope in a foreigner victory, AM on the other hand is fricking littered with them. Also EU's time zone does favour them in that they're more likely to score more EU and AM views. Those two secondary facts certainly mean that AM will always have an uphill struggle, but ultimately the unfortunate fact is that EU is just a better show/viewing experience in pretty much every way imaginable.
I don't think you can use this to much, maybe for the casual viewer you would be right, but a suprising amount of EU people watch MLG events and they usualy play at night for us, these games were send out for me around 9pm in the evening i believe wich is a huge improvement on those that MLG used to have wich started 12ish at it's early point.
Point being MLG's in general are one of the highest in viewer numbers, it can use the same excuse you just made, yet numbers were very impressive.
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MLG step it up! Get a studio audience going and I'll be there as much as I can!
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I watched the EU finals and the AM finals both. I find the time for the AM games in europe quite good to watch, i don't go that early to sleep at weekend, so stream starting at 10PM is ok, much better than korean times where they start at 5 to 9 AM, no way to watch this...
The lack of actual NA Players make a big point in the lesser viewers, i heard many people say, that shoutcraft is the real NA Tournament, because there play actual North American Player, and not only koreans. A few koreans are ok, also koreans like polt living in the us, but about 75% or so are way to much, failing the Qualifiers like this made even more people not watching the rest of the NA Tournament.
And like a few posters have already said, the atmosphere of the WCS EU was really good. It was only a small audience, but they cheered, the hosts interacted with the crowd with the players, the caster were good, the analyses were good, it was a good show all together. Reminded me a bit of the "family atmosphere" of HomestoryCup what makes the HSC such a unique fun tournament to watch
The NA show lacked most of that. I watched mostly the instant vods and scrolled to the next game, so i didnt have to see the skyline all the time and could watch more of the games.
As a little sidenote this is what killed the Season Finals: no free vods or rebroadcast... Its like saying "Fuck you European or American viewers, we dont care if you cant see the games!"
If the stream is paid only and the vods too, i can understand. But free stream and no free vods is just bad... and really hurting them.
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They did rebroadcast and the vods are (re)brought to you here by the juicy James. It's all good.
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I just got a question looking at this.
Protech streamed for 325hours, thats over 10hours a day, Im just wondering, with average 200 viewers, how much is he actually making/can he make a living? Its amazing that he streams so much Im just interested to see if high volume can make up for low viewers?
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The reason I didn't watch WCS NA was because it was because by the round of 16, it wasn't an NA tournament. It was pretty much GSL Code A.
If I wanted to watch GSL Code A, I'll just watch it. I have no time to watch a tournament were there no players to root for and is essentially an inferior version (production-wise) of something that already exists.
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