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badeanden
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway56 Posts
June 03 2013 21:43 GMT
#41
The wcs viewers might be influated a little because there are some people watching on different streams at the same time (even thought i think it's pretty few)

I think it's more important that all statistics show a little bit lower count that how many people are actually watching becuase several people watch on the same stream (barcrafts, normal vors, people coming together and watching and so on) Even thoght these numbers are probally not as high as on TV, It would be cool if it was possible to calculate how many people were watching each open stream in average, just like they do on tv
Snute will be the new Stephano in 2013! Mark my words
Gropah
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands58 Posts
June 03 2013 21:44 GMT
#42
WCS AM has been struggling a bit, however. The finals had about half the viewers of WCS EU, and here we cannot use the time zone difference as an excuse. Or are there really so many more European Starcraft fans out there compared to American Starcraft fans? WCS AM has done consistently worse than WCS EU. What do you guys think is the reason for that? I'm especially interested in comments readers from the US/Americas on whether they watch WCS AM, or if they even prefer WCS EU over it. I've also added a poll to gauge the popularity of the various WCS regions to the bottom of the post. Do participate!


I do think timezones are an excuse. WCS EU is on a good time for EU and (sort of) for USA, which results in a good viewercount. WCS Korea is in a good slot for Asia, and (sort of) for EU (but less will watch, cause office hours), so a bit less viewers. WCS NA is on a good time slot for USA and a reasonable timeslot for Asia. However Asians don't care about NA scene, because of the relative low level, so no asians watch. That is a whole continent less, which results in the poorest viewer counts.
v_lm
Profile Joined September 2012
France202 Posts
June 03 2013 21:45 GMT
#43
Damned. Protech streamed 330 hours... thats like 11 hours / day every day during a month.
A friend is someone you know well and still love.
EkiMGnaW
Profile Joined March 2011
United States45 Posts
June 03 2013 21:51 GMT
#44
On June 04 2013 05:14 DeathZepplin wrote:
Why people watch Tara Babcock and don't just go to pornhub for a few minutes will always mystify me.


I'd give you an upvote if it was possible.

Regarding WCS NA: The production just wasn't there. MLG did a good job and had a beautiful 1080p stream (for free I might add) but there just was no sense of occasion.This is why Dreamhack and the Korean finals will always be more of an attraction because it feels like a much bigger deal. It's an event and the Dreamhack and the Korean finals felt like one. MLG, on the other hand, just felt subdued and completely void of any excitement. Any excitement generated wasn't because of MLG but rather due to fans hype.

WCS EU had this same problem but there was a very big Korean vs. non-Korean storyline permeating the entire tournament. WCS NA did not have this luxury. Of course, the EU scene does seem to have more fans of SC2 than NA. In other words, EU is more developed and has a larger fanbase.

Personally, I watched both EU and NA whenever I could/they were on. Neither were on par with WCS Korea in terms of excitement and skill. Without the time zone difference, I believe WCS Korea would lead the pack. That said, WCS Korea still pales in comparison to BW OSL Finals or Proleague finals in terms of sheer scope and thrill. Just watch the Korean Air S1 OSL Finals between Flash and Effort. Just watch the first 10 minutes or so (skip the singing girls) and you'll see what I'm on about.
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
June 03 2013 22:05 GMT
#45
Confirmed average viewership for finals EU OVER NA OVER KR.
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
June 03 2013 22:10 GMT
#46
On June 04 2013 07:05 oneill12 wrote:
Confirmed average viewership for finals EU OVER NA OVER KR.


KR had most viewership in total by a sizable amount. This OP is simply detailing Twitch.tv numbers. Other sites, such as Afreeca, were not included. Gom's numbers of course are private.
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 22:17:35
June 03 2013 22:16 GMT
#47
As someone from the USA who chose to watch the StarStrikers tournament instead of the WCS AM Finals, I really didn't care if Hero or Revival won. They're both going to be at Korea for the Season 1 Finals. The only difference is which one gets 8k more. It didn't seem like it mattered in the long run. WCS EU and KR finals were fantastic though. Loved 'em.
knightwulf
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada174 Posts
June 03 2013 22:17 GMT
#48
I wonder how much of a difference the korean numbers are here than actual total. When i first started watching sc2 i thought it wasnt as big outside of korea. Today, I feel like Sc2 is bigger outside korea. The only thing that has changed my mind is pro league and gsl crowd attendance. I wonder if it 20, 000, 100, 000, or even 0 missing viewers?
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
June 03 2013 22:43 GMT
#49
With so much WCS content it's impossible to catch it all. People will tune in randomly, or choose to fully follow a specific region while catching the finals of the regions they don't watch. In this case, WCS AM was always going to be the victim. Look up the word "passable" in the dictionary and you'll get MLG's WCS AM. It did what advertised and nothing more. Incredibly bland, stale, boring and uninspired.

WCS EU was just flat out better and I'm glad it was so superior in a way, because there is no way Blizzard is gonna let their home region get such a bad season next time round. I expect big changes if they're serious about this project.
dirtydurb82
Profile Joined December 2012
United States178 Posts
June 03 2013 22:44 GMT
#50
Spanishiwa back on the charts! He plays so well even with lag on KR server. When he is cut loose on NA server, GTFO, he is nearly untouchable!
"The only way to grow E-Sports is to tell the truth." -Richard Lewis
niekoz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
June 03 2013 23:14 GMT
#51
I like Catz stream a lot but i dont like to watch players with low settings that much. Higher settings are so much more enjoyable to watch imo, but dont know why some guys stick with low graphs when gaming is their job.

Very nice job with these sick stats!
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 23:42:49
June 03 2013 23:40 GMT
#52
Wow this is incredible THANK YOU !


Side Note: I did notice that for the WCS viewers you only calculated the primary stream and didn't add in the non-english streams. I know that WCS EU Finals Day 2 peaked at 135k total viewers as I happened to check on that day.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 03 2013 23:41 GMT
#53
i find it interesting that pl got the biggest viewer number at team8 vs kt???
seems odd
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 03 2013 23:47 GMT
#54
On June 04 2013 08:40 SCST wrote:
Wow this is incredible THANK YOU !


Side Note: I did notice that for the WCS viewers you only calculated the primary stream and didn't add in the non-english streams. I know that WCS EU Finals Day 2 peaked at 135k total viewers as I happened to check on that day.


The numbers are average viewers. I did some old fashion eyeballing and noted these numbers:

WCS EU Ro32: 40-40-30-41-43-37-57-44
WCS NA Ro32: 15-17-17-19-24-21-30-26
WCS EU Ro16: 50-53-55-61
WCS AM Ro16: 24-23-26-23
WCS EU Ro8: 82
WCS EU Finals: 134
WCS AM Ro8: 43
WCS AM Finals: 55
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Defury
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany206 Posts
June 03 2013 23:51 GMT
#55
I dont watch NA for two reasons

1) I don't like the casters
2) no crowd, no content and tons of boring down time. Mlg simply can't run a online event well.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
June 03 2013 23:54 GMT
#56
The fact that a lot of people use Gom's website to view their events hurts some of their numbers (unless you are taking that into account).

Having said that, I think everything has been a resounding success aside from WCS Am, and even that was not a failure (just didn't live up to our high standards).
We talkin about PRACTICE
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
June 03 2013 23:55 GMT
#57
Seriously awesome that you take the time to make these threads. I mainly watched WCS EU and KR even though I am from AM. Couldn't stomach to watch AM with no AM in it. Proleague > GSTL imo since it's becoming higher level and 5 dollars I paid for a full season of proleague is just incredible ><
JD, need I say more? :D
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
June 04 2013 00:05 GMT
#58
Thanks alot man! Always great to see these at the start of each new month
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 04 2013 00:13 GMT
#59
Love these! Very cool to see the WCS numbers. I think that adding a pie chart of the 3 WCS region total numbers would be cool. What do you all think?
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
DenTenker
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States606 Posts
June 04 2013 00:27 GMT
#60
I love this thread. Great work! It's interesting to see that Stephano is still #1, even though he is leaving in just a few short months. Maybe everybody is trying to get their last glimpse of him before he retires.
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