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Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
June 03 2013 18:39 GMT
#21
I lold when i saw Stephano's statistic. Hours streamed 9, but hella of a lot viewers XD
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
June 03 2013 18:42 GMT
#22
The reason WCS AM gets fewer views:
WCS Korea and WCS EU are more entertaining for many and thats already a ton of content. WCS AM is the least entertaining so is the first to go with a lack of time.
soiii
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany266 Posts
June 03 2013 19:10 GMT
#23
Conti you are a boss.
Ecstatic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States160 Posts
June 03 2013 19:16 GMT
#24
Wish we could see the number of unique VOD viewers from GOM. Would be interesting to see how many viewers watch the GSL/GSTL, obviously stream numbers aren't going to tell you the whole story for a tournament at such a bad time for most American viewers.
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
June 03 2013 19:23 GMT
#25
SeleCT!
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DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
June 03 2013 19:26 GMT
#26
Great to see this. WCS AM is usually on a little late for me (EET) so I only end up watching KR and EU.
vzSo
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland33 Posts
June 03 2013 20:00 GMT
#27
i don't know how you monitored the viewers but i saw many different stats..
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 03 2013 20:01 GMT
#28
On June 04 2013 01:58 faintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
WCS AM has been struggling a bit, however. The finals had about half the viewers of WCS EU, and here we cannot use the time zone difference as an excuse. Or are there really so many more European Starcraft fans out there compared to American Starcraft fans? WCS AM has done consistently worse than WCS EU. What do you guys think is the reason for that? I'm especially interested in comments readers from the US/Americas on whether they watch WCS AM, or if they even prefer WCS EU over it. I've also added a poll to gauge the popularity of the various WCS regions to the bottom of the post. Do participate!


WCS EU was exciting. There was constantly something going on in between games. There were great casters and a host who kept things entertaining, a small crowd added a little bit of excitement if someone won, The games were just better and had memorable moments (forgg vs stephano). To beat the dead horse a little more, EU had mostly EU players. Players that people want to watch.

WCS AM was not exciting to watch at all. No crowd. Almost zero content outside of the games. No host. Long shots of the NY skyline and players room. Mediocre casting at best. When HerO won there was just dead silence followed by an awkward award ceremony. Oh yeah and the obvious... No NA players to actually root for.


What are you talking about, WCS AM was exciting as shit, just take a look at the following clip of the final match, when the winner was determined:
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dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
June 03 2013 20:03 GMT
#29
Can we get a WCS that groups by Premier/Challenger/Qualifier
DeathZepplin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States21 Posts
June 03 2013 20:14 GMT
#30
Why people watch Tara Babcock and don't just go to pornhub for a few minutes will always mystify me.
Sweet Odins raven!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 03 2013 20:16 GMT
#31
On June 04 2013 05:14 DeathZepplin wrote:
Why people watch Tara Babcock and don't just go to pornhub for a few minutes will always mystify me.

The honesty of this post is astounding.
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DeathZepplin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States21 Posts
June 03 2013 20:18 GMT
#32
Just saying
Sweet Odins raven!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 20:21:01
June 03 2013 20:20 GMT
#33
On June 04 2013 03:42 TheRabidDeer wrote:
The reason WCS AM gets fewer views:
WCS Korea and WCS EU are more entertaining for many and thats already a ton of content. WCS AM is the least entertaining so is the first to go with a lack of time.

Exactly. WCS EU for me had the best time slot and was also the the best IMO. Great crowd for the finals (although small, but cheerful!) and a nice setup. WCS KR is solid like always and the highest display of skill, i try to watch it whenever i can. I did watch some of WCS AM but never liked it as good as the other two so i ended up not watching the finals after watching a few games of them. Didn't feel good in comparison to EU or KR.

Also loving this thread like always. Not a surprise players got less viewers after all those WCS events...
Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
June 03 2013 20:23 GMT
#34
Pictures are down/not loading
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 20:40:45
June 03 2013 20:37 GMT
#35
Less people probably watch WCS NA because it's boring as hell to watch Koreans stomp almost everyone else. Skill disparity takes the fun out of it.
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
June 03 2013 20:42 GMT
#36
Ty so much for doing this!
We know nothing.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 21:09:38
June 03 2013 21:08 GMT
#37
On June 04 2013 01:36 Conti wrote:
The big picture


[image loading]
(The actual numbers are not important, it's the ratio between month that's important.)

We're back to pre HotS numbers, at least when it comes to player streams. That's not good for players who stream, obviously, but I don't see any cause for concern for the community's growth.


So i figure this is only the total player stream viewers?

I would be interested to see the total stream numbers as the sum of WCS content + player streams + team leagues

so you could see how those percentages shift. just like hots/wol content

On June 04 2013 05:14 DeathZepplin wrote:
Why people watch Tara Babcock and don't just go to pornhub for a few minutes will always mystify me.


i guess its not the strangest fetish to watch 2 boobies play wood league starcraft :D
ckdarby
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2 Posts
June 03 2013 21:13 GMT
#38
Shocked that Nathanias isn't in here.
GnoM
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway145 Posts
June 03 2013 21:21 GMT
#39
Thank you for making this, interesting.
Kentredenite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 21:40:25
June 03 2013 21:40 GMT
#40
WCS AM has been struggling a bit, however. The finals had about half the viewers of WCS EU, and here we cannot use the time zone difference as an excuse. Or are there really so many more European Starcraft fans out there compared to American Starcraft fans? WCS AM has done consistently worse than WCS EU. What do you guys think is the reason for that? I'm especially interested in comments readers from the US/Americas on whether they watch WCS AM, or if they even prefer WCS EU over it. I've also added a poll to gauge the popularity of the various WCS regions to the bottom of the post. Do participate!

As an American, one of the reasons why I didn't watch WCS AM was that the scheduling didn't allow it. There were many days (especially during the online rounds, when there were actually American players playing) where the schedule was shifted earlier several hours (trying to get the European audience or accommodating the players?) and the games were all but over when I got home from work. And I live on the east coast. I can only imagine how much WCS AM a west coast American with a job would have gotten to watch.

In comparison, I could at least always tune into WCS EU during my lunch break.
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