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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_school_in_France
On May 14 2013 16:44 LingBlingBling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 16:43 opterown wrote:
i don't think stephano is old enough to have had any medical education even as an undergrad in euro medical education is far different then USA, As other Euro posters have stated you can start learning in high school, fresh out of high school in a community college as a reg class, it's not like USA where its a godly " u must go to this and that med school situation. USA medical field vs Euro education in med school is 100% different process.
eh really you can start medical school in high school? i personally think that's a bit screwy (and no bio doesn't count)
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On May 14 2013 16:46 Fody03 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 16:44 LingBlingBling wrote:On May 14 2013 16:43 opterown wrote:
i don't think stephano is old enough to have had any medical education even as an undergrad in euro medical education is far different then USA, As other Euro posters have stated you can start learning in high school, fresh out of high school in a community college as a reg class, it's not like USA where its a godly " u must go to this and that med school situation. USA medical field vs Euro education in med school is 100% different process. Talking about Europe as it was a single country. 100% American 
As a person with many family members in the medical field, It's pretty much the same process across euro. Vs how different it is in American. I have family in the med field in france, and on my fathers side in Italy, So I know the process of education in USA and across Euro.
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On May 14 2013 16:47 opterown wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_school_in_FranceShow nested quote +On May 14 2013 16:44 LingBlingBling wrote:On May 14 2013 16:43 opterown wrote:
i don't think stephano is old enough to have had any medical education even as an undergrad in euro medical education is far different then USA, As other Euro posters have stated you can start learning in high school, fresh out of high school in a community college as a reg class, it's not like USA where its a godly " u must go to this and that med school situation. USA medical field vs Euro education in med school is 100% different process. eh really you can start medical school in high school? i personally think that's a bit screwy (and no bio doesn't count)
It's just another craft. How come you'd put medicine schooling on some special pedestal?
Good luck with your studies stephano! Great player.
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On May 14 2013 16:47 opterown wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_school_in_FranceShow nested quote +On May 14 2013 16:44 LingBlingBling wrote:On May 14 2013 16:43 opterown wrote:
i don't think stephano is old enough to have had any medical education even as an undergrad in euro medical education is far different then USA, As other Euro posters have stated you can start learning in high school, fresh out of high school in a community college as a reg class, it's not like USA where its a godly " u must go to this and that med school situation. USA medical field vs Euro education in med school is 100% different process. eh really you can start medical school in high school? i personally think that's a bit screwy (and no bio doesn't count)
You can start the Medical field process in Euro with in your 3rd/4th year in high school and progress to a simple community college to advanced, VS in the USA you have to apply to good schools and have a different education goal and alot of money to progress.
Health care education system is very different in Euro compared to the USA. You can argue that the Health Care is so expensive in the USA because it is indeed better then rest of the word, Because in the rest of the word the education standards for becoming a doctor or nurse is a bit easier to do.
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On May 14 2013 16:50 Madkipz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 16:47 opterown wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_school_in_FranceOn May 14 2013 16:44 LingBlingBling wrote:On May 14 2013 16:43 opterown wrote:
i don't think stephano is old enough to have had any medical education even as an undergrad in euro medical education is far different then USA, As other Euro posters have stated you can start learning in high school, fresh out of high school in a community college as a reg class, it's not like USA where its a godly " u must go to this and that med school situation. USA medical field vs Euro education in med school is 100% different process. eh really you can start medical school in high school? i personally think that's a bit screwy (and no bio doesn't count) It's just another craft. How come you'd put medicine schooling on some special pedestal?
well i don't really know any degrees that you can start in high school (almost all of my experience is for australian tertiary education so i suppose it could be different). but i don't think it's unreasonable to consider med school a bit different from other tertiary degrees
On May 14 2013 16:51 LingBlingBling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 16:47 opterown wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_school_in_FranceOn May 14 2013 16:44 LingBlingBling wrote:On May 14 2013 16:43 opterown wrote:
i don't think stephano is old enough to have had any medical education even as an undergrad in euro medical education is far different then USA, As other Euro posters have stated you can start learning in high school, fresh out of high school in a community college as a reg class, it's not like USA where its a godly " u must go to this and that med school situation. USA medical field vs Euro education in med school is 100% different process. eh really you can start medical school in high school? i personally think that's a bit screwy (and no bio doesn't count) You can start the Medical field process in Euro with in your 3rd/4th year in high school and progress to a simple community college to advanced, VS in the USA you have to apply to good schools and have a different education goal and alot of money to progress. Health care education system is very different in Euro compared to the USA. You can argue that the Health Care is so expensive in the USA because it is indeed better then rest of the word, Because in the rest of the word the education standards for becoming a doctor or nurse is a bit easier to do.
i'm not comparing med school in usa with europe or whatever at all (you may notice i'm not from the usa) so i don't have any such preconceptions. even so i find it difficult to believe stephano was in med school before he started gaming
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Anyway as a fan of Stephano I wish him the best, I copied and learned alot of builds as a zerg player from him in WOL and in Heart of the swarm. Hope to see him do well. I was just going off past interviews and his own vocal speech from his stream he had a medical history education, and wished to purse that goal, it may of changed as of 2013. But back in the day, he had some med information and wished to have a better education in the medical field, this is from stephano himself.
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Perhaps the reason you find it difficult to believe, is because he wasn't.
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On May 14 2013 16:51 LingBlingBling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 16:47 opterown wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_school_in_FranceOn May 14 2013 16:44 LingBlingBling wrote:On May 14 2013 16:43 opterown wrote:
i don't think stephano is old enough to have had any medical education even as an undergrad in euro medical education is far different then USA, As other Euro posters have stated you can start learning in high school, fresh out of high school in a community college as a reg class, it's not like USA where its a godly " u must go to this and that med school situation. USA medical field vs Euro education in med school is 100% different process. eh really you can start medical school in high school? i personally think that's a bit screwy (and no bio doesn't count) You can start the Medical field process in Euro with in your 3rd/4th year in high school and progress to a simple community college to advanced, VS in the USA you have to apply to good schools and have a different education goal and alot of money to progress. Health care education system is very different in Euro compared to the USA. You can argue that the Health Care is so expensive in the USA because it is indeed better then rest of the word, Because in the rest of the word the education standards for becoming a doctor or nurse is a bit easier to do.
You sir are just wrong.Everything you said is wrong xP
If EU medical system was like that,then it'd be the same in Italy,which is not.
In Italy,after high school(19 years old),you try a test to enter Med. Department and then you have 10 years of study (6+4)
p.s: is it really needed to keep this discussion going? seems pointless
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Ho god... You want to do med school (in fact med university is more correct) in France so:
-you have to finish High School and have a Baccalauréat (annual exam at the end of High School), so, if you're not a genius, you have 18 years old.
-the next year you enter in medecine university (always public), you can do it without exam or acceptance
-you pay the university (maybe near 450euro with the student insurence)
-the difficulty is the exam at the end of the first year to pass in second, there is a Numerus Clausus
So Stephano, who start is pro gaming carrier in SC2 at 17, was just in High School and never goes to university or med school.
And, in fact, he want to become engineer or do economic studies now, so the debate is stupid
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nevermind, don't want to start another tagent
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As far as I know, medical education in France only starts after you get your bac, which is the basically the French equivalent of the A-Levels for those who know the English system, and the earliest (or at least, the regular) time to get your bac is when you reach 18, and afterwards you proceed to go to med school or university etc. Stephano was 18 when he went full-time, so I'm guessing that is the stage he is in at the moment.
Education systems in Europe are very different - the English have their own system, continental Europe has its own system and even those differ from each other.
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On May 14 2013 16:55 Wertheron wrote:Ho god... You want to do med school (in fact med university is more correct) in France so: -you have to finish High School and have a Baccalauréat (annual exam at the end of High School), so, if you're not a genius, you have 18 years old. -the next year you enter in medecine university (always public), you can do it without exam or acceptance -you pay the university (maybe near 450euro with the student insurence) -the difficulty is the exam at the end of the first year to pass in second, there is a Numerus Clausus So Stephano, who start is pro gaming carrier in SC2 at 17, was just in High School and never goes to university or med school. And, in fact, he want to become engineer or do economic studies now, so the debate is stupid
I already stated that, in that is far easier compared to the American version.
And @ the person from Italy. the medical field standards are even easier then the ones in france, I can link you family history of my own person family members, (Mother is a doctor in USA, California, Uncle is a doctor in Italy, And have a cousin in france who is medical school)
If you compare the Education System in the USA vs European or rest of the world, You can see the USA has the best and hardest education system and best, in any where else in the world.
Which is why even rich celebs in euro rather have American medical services done, rather then Euorpean.
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On May 14 2013 16:59 LingBlingBling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 16:55 Wertheron wrote:Ho god... You want to do med school (in fact med university is more correct) in France so: -you have to finish High School and have a Baccalauréat (annual exam at the end of High School), so, if you're not a genius, you have 18 years old. -the next year you enter in medecine university (always public), you can do it without exam or acceptance -you pay the university (maybe near 450euro with the student insurence) -the difficulty is the exam at the end of the first year to pass in second, there is a Numerus Clausus So Stephano, who start is pro gaming carrier in SC2 at 17, was just in High School and never goes to university or med school. And, in fact, he want to become engineer or do economic studies now, so the debate is stupid I already stated that, in that is far easier compared to the American version. And @ the person from Italy. the medical field standards are even easier then the ones in france, I can link you family history of my own person family members, (Mother is a doctor in USA, California, Uncle is a doctor in Italy, And have a cousin in france who is medical school) If you compare the Education System in the USA vs European or rest of the world, You can see the USA has the best and hardest education system and best, in any where else in the world. Which is why even rich celebs in euro rather have American medical services done, rather then Euorpean.
I looooove how now you are trying to derail the topic on US vs EU!
GL with that,i will not answer you anymore, xoxo
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A new generation of foreign players will be emerging from EG, soon...
Good luck to Stephano, hope he'll come back every now and then.
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On May 14 2013 16:59 LingBlingBling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 16:55 Wertheron wrote:Ho god... You want to do med school (in fact med university is more correct) in France so: -you have to finish High School and have a Baccalauréat (annual exam at the end of High School), so, if you're not a genius, you have 18 years old. -the next year you enter in medecine university (always public), you can do it without exam or acceptance -you pay the university (maybe near 450euro with the student insurence) -the difficulty is the exam at the end of the first year to pass in second, there is a Numerus Clausus So Stephano, who start is pro gaming carrier in SC2 at 17, was just in High School and never goes to university or med school. And, in fact, he want to become engineer or do economic studies now, so the debate is stupid I already stated that, in that is far easier compared to the American version. And @ the person from Italy. the medical field standards are even easier then the ones in france, I can link you family history of my own person family members, (Mother is a doctor in USA, California, Uncle is a doctor in Italy, And have a cousin in france who is medical school) If you compare the Education System in the USA vs European or rest of the world, You can see the USA has the best and hardest education system and best, in any where else in the world. Which is why even rich celebs in euro rather have American medical services done, rather then Euorpean.
The 'Merica is this one is strong... I'm not sure if he's serious or simply trolling.
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On May 14 2013 16:51 LingBlingBling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 16:47 opterown wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_school_in_FranceOn May 14 2013 16:44 LingBlingBling wrote:On May 14 2013 16:43 opterown wrote:
i don't think stephano is old enough to have had any medical education even as an undergrad in euro medical education is far different then USA, As other Euro posters have stated you can start learning in high school, fresh out of high school in a community college as a reg class, it's not like USA where its a godly " u must go to this and that med school situation. USA medical field vs Euro education in med school is 100% different process. eh really you can start medical school in high school? i personally think that's a bit screwy (and no bio doesn't count) You can start the Medical field process in Euro with in your 3rd/4th year in high school and progress to a simple community college to advanced, VS in the USA you have to apply to good schools and have a different education goal and alot of money to progress. Health care education system is very different in Euro compared to the USA. You can argue that the Health Care is so expensive in the USA because it is indeed better then rest of the word, Because in the rest of the word the education standards for becoming a doctor or nurse is a bit easier to do.
I think we've been through this so many times already ?
No you can't start medical school during High School, and Ilyes has not already started at all. Basically, things are :
Ilyes finished High School in June 2011, passed the final french High School exam in Toulouse. Then he decided to take 1 year off (and then another). Up to this point he had only done "general" studies, leaving him the choice of what he would study after, and he had stated he wanted to take on medical studies, but he still has to do it all.
I don't think this is very related, but I'll just explain how medical studies work in France :
_ You have graduated from High School ? You are allowed to enter university (for free) and study medicine for the first year.
Here comes the trick : at the end of this first year, there is a very large contest. I don't call it an exam because you are actually fighting for a limited amount of spot, and it is not only about getting a better grade, but getting ahead of others to have one of the few spots and move on to second year.
This is why it is so hard, anyone can enter but only a small percentage (~15%) have a spot in second year
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thanks for the clarification on the med school system in france! interesting to see how other countries do it (i'm a med student in australia)
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On May 14 2013 16:54 Fody03 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 16:51 LingBlingBling wrote:On May 14 2013 16:47 opterown wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_school_in_FranceOn May 14 2013 16:44 LingBlingBling wrote:On May 14 2013 16:43 opterown wrote:
i don't think stephano is old enough to have had any medical education even as an undergrad in euro medical education is far different then USA, As other Euro posters have stated you can start learning in high school, fresh out of high school in a community college as a reg class, it's not like USA where its a godly " u must go to this and that med school situation. USA medical field vs Euro education in med school is 100% different process. eh really you can start medical school in high school? i personally think that's a bit screwy (and no bio doesn't count) You can start the Medical field process in Euro with in your 3rd/4th year in high school and progress to a simple community college to advanced, VS in the USA you have to apply to good schools and have a different education goal and alot of money to progress. Health care education system is very different in Euro compared to the USA. You can argue that the Health Care is so expensive in the USA because it is indeed better then rest of the word, Because in the rest of the word the education standards for becoming a doctor or nurse is a bit easier to do. You sir are just wrong.Everything you said is wrong xP If EU medical system was like that,then it'd be the same in Italy,which is not. In Italy,after high school(19 years old),you try a test to enter Med. Department and then you have 10 years of study (6+4) p.s: is it really needed to keep this discussion going? seems pointless
On Spain is something along those lines too. I don't know what the guy is speaking about but yeah, he went full American on that one.
Back on topic, he entertained us for a very long period, not long enough for some, but at this points i think it is smart for him to move on with his life. Thank you Stephano and the best of lucks for you.
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