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brieN
Profile Joined November 2011
United States158 Posts
May 11 2013 11:11 GMT
#1
When Navi announced they would return to sc2, I fully expected to see his name on the list. However he was not and as the best ukrainian imo was a shock. And being without a team for almost 4 months and still getting great results is strange. Is there a reason for him staying teamless or has he slipped under the radar? I heard eg needs a new zerg
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FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
May 11 2013 11:13 GMT
#2
It could be just that he is asking for too much money. Id say he definitely could get a team very quickly if his price wasn't too high. Id say if he finishes high in WCS EU he can ask what ever he wants. Like he already beat Mvp on the road to the round of 16.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 11 2013 11:17 GMT
#3
On May 11 2013 20:11 brieN wrote:
When Navi announced they would return to sc2, I fully expected to see his name on the list. However he was not and as the best ukrainian imo was a shock. And being without a team for almost 4 months and still getting great results is strange. Is there a reason for him staying teamless or has he slipped under the radar? I heard eg needs a new zerg


Best Ukrainian? That's really hotly contested at the moment, what with Strelok, Bly and Kas also doing very very well recently, arguably better than DIMAGA.

Anyway, I wouldn't worry about him. With someone of DIMAGA's skill level and reputation, it's probably more a case of him waiting for a good deal rather than no team wanting to pick him up. And even then, I think he's doing alright even without a team.
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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
May 11 2013 11:17 GMT
#4
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.
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followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
May 11 2013 11:19 GMT
#5
Well it might be money or some conditions that some teams cannot afford (lan's etc). Also, maybe he already signed personal sponsorship so he want to be teamless for some time like Grubby or WhiteRa. It could be that he found a team but havent announce it yet. Certainly excellent player, especially in last few weeks, he deserves a good team. I think he could fit anywhere but best in Empire or Mouz.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 11 2013 11:20 GMT
#6
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.


LOL.

4-0'd his WCS group and got some pretty good results in online cups? Clearly too old to compete. ;p
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 11 2013 11:28 GMT
#7
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.

your pretty delusional
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
May 11 2013 11:32 GMT
#8
He said, he´s talking to at least one team during his WCS interview, so he should be being signed sooner or later.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
May 11 2013 11:33 GMT
#9
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.

they may be better (may, not sure about this), but u gain nothing out of them. If Shuttle shows up for WCS EU nobody cares, if Dimaga shows up, the crowd goes crazy.

Thats the reason why IdrA was/is one of the most earning players: he has a huge fanbase.
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
May 11 2013 11:34 GMT
#10
Dimaga is still without a team? I'm shocked to hear that. He is indeed a very talented player and was one of the best foreigners at the start of SC2. Let's all hope that a decent team will still acknowledge him as a skilled player and ask him to join their team. Without formal sponsorship he will sadly fade away as newer players cast a shadow over his past achievements.

It's at least consoling to know that when he streams he usually gets a large viewership which should support him financially for the time being.

I don't want age to be a factor in someone's retirement when he still has so much more to bring to the table in eSports. Dimaga is has a good personality and is practically a celebrity in the foreign eSports scene. Even if he is picked up as a coach for some team that should be good enough too, as long as he can continue to help grow the community and influence other players in a positive manner. I remember when he played in the GSL Korea vs World tournament where his talent really shined through. It is obvious that his level of skill has been lackluster of late and that he possibly won't be able to compete against the very best of the best, but that does not mean that he should completely quit the scene.

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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 11:36:30
May 11 2013 11:35 GMT
#11
I think he said on some talkshow that he was looking to get a personal sponsorship, guess that is not going too well...
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 11 2013 11:36 GMT
#12
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.


I keep saying. "Never underestimate stupidity on Team liquid" Thanks for proving my point

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brieN
Profile Joined November 2011
United States158 Posts
May 11 2013 11:37 GMT
#13
On May 11 2013 20:32 Xoronius wrote:
He said, he´s talking to at least one team during his WCS interview, so he should be being signed sooner or later.

interesting, but not surprised due to him 4-0 in his group and 2-0d MVP. And to someone else saying he isnt the best ukrainian, its just my opinion.
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HappyZerGling
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Ukraine161 Posts
May 11 2013 11:39 GMT
#14
EG.DIMAGA :D
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grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
May 11 2013 11:40 GMT
#15
Well, he was on mTw till the end of January afaik. I am pretty sure he will find a new team or a personal sponsor. Would like him on mouz obviously
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 11:43:21
May 11 2013 11:43 GMT
#16
It probably comes down to what he's expecting from a team. Getting a team is most likely not that hard. Getting a good team with a reasonable salary and other conditions is probably a bit harder.
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Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
May 11 2013 11:44 GMT
#17
On May 11 2013 20:11 brieN wrote:
When Navi announced they would return to sc2, I fully expected to see his name on the list. However he was not and as the best ukrainian imo was a shock. And being without a team for almost 4 months and still getting great results is strange. Is there a reason for him staying teamless or has he slipped under the radar? I heard eg needs a new zerg


Navi returning was because they merged with FXO.Europe, (making FXO sponsor while navi has the team).
Obviously then Dimaga isn't going to be in the lineup, intitially at least.
Hell, it's about time
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 11 2013 11:50 GMT
#18
On May 11 2013 20:33 Zeon0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.

they may be better (may, not sure about this), but u gain nothing out of them. If Shuttle shows up for WCS EU nobody cares, if Dimaga shows up, the crowd goes crazy.

Thats the reason why IdrA was/is one of the most earning players: he has a huge fanbase.


yeah idra being one of the most popular e-sports gamer's of all time, nice example lol
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BaaL`
Profile Joined May 2010
297 Posts
May 11 2013 11:56 GMT
#19
He said on his stream about a week ago (roughly): he has a manager of sorts that is looking for a deal with a team, but it's not easy and taking a lot of time. Currently they are in negotiation with a team though (not disclosed), making progress. He does get offers. He didn't explain why it would take long.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
May 11 2013 12:00 GMT
#20
I heard there's a vacancy over at EG.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 11 2013 12:07 GMT
#21
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.

Too old...lol.
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mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
May 11 2013 12:12 GMT
#22
Acer.Dimaga - need more zergs!
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
May 11 2013 12:38 GMT
#23
Dimaga is a wild card too; some days he plays just like any other strong foreigner, and other days he 2-0's Mvp and comes close to beating MKP in a BO5. It's hard to say whether or not he can compete with Koreans and that's a trait foreign teams are desperately looking for
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CryMeaRiveR.749
Profile Joined September 2011
France59 Posts
May 11 2013 12:47 GMT
#24
aAa dimaga !!

aahah
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a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
May 11 2013 12:53 GMT
#25
If I was the manager of a mid-tier euro team, I would already have snatched him.
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
May 11 2013 12:58 GMT
#26
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.


Stupid comments like this cracks me up everytime.
I suppose you wouldn't denied that F1 racing is much more demanding physically than SC2, in department of endurance, as well as reflexes. You need godly skill when racing through Monaco, or any other technical circuit, and yet drivers way past 30 can race successfully, more yet, they can even win championships (look at Schumacher).

So no, SC2 is not unwinnable for older players, only motivation, skill and training regime are deciding factor.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
May 11 2013 12:58 GMT
#27
I think Dimaga would be a good fit for EG, or do they have too many Europeans already?
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 11 2013 13:01 GMT
#28
On May 11 2013 20:36 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.


I keep saying. "Never underestimate stupidity on Team liquid" Thanks for proving my point

Wow thats a really smart quote you came up with there.
I wonder why its limited to TL though.
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greenknight999
Profile Joined January 2012
69 Posts
May 11 2013 13:01 GMT
#29
Dimaga could walk onto any EU team tomorrow if he wanted. He is not polarising, is well known and very popular. Like others have said, it's probably about $. Imagine that will be settled once we see WCS EU results and the pecking order in EU is set. I hope he gets onto a great team with a good practice regimen so we can see him tear up WCS. Awesome player.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 11 2013 13:04 GMT
#30
come on dimaga just go to Na'Vi
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a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
May 11 2013 13:12 GMT
#31
Also, let's not forget he got fucked pretty badly by his previous team so I can understand if he wants some guarantees or waits for a more established team to make an offer.
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
May 11 2013 13:28 GMT
#32
Ukraine really has a lot of great players. It's like Sweden. I wonder why those countries seem to have more top players than more populous European countries like Russia and Germany.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
May 11 2013 13:32 GMT
#33
On May 11 2013 21:58 Topdoller wrote:
I think Dimaga would be a good fit for EG, or do they have too many Europeans already?


Hmm. Actually this would make sense with IdrA no longer on EG.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
May 11 2013 14:47 GMT
#34
On May 11 2013 21:53 a3den wrote:
If I was the manager of a mid-tier euro team, I would already have snatched him.


but would he accept that?
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Usernameffs
Profile Joined February 2013
Sweden107 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 15:00:56
May 11 2013 15:00 GMT
#35
SK.diamga
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
May 11 2013 15:02 GMT
#36
He said in a interview after his WCS EU win that he was talking to teams, but didn't want to give details of course. I could see navi, the alliance, mouz potentially.
Chillaxing
Profile Joined March 2013
United States20 Posts
May 11 2013 15:08 GMT
#37
My friend told me this.
Kind of sad, Idra probably has legitimate mental problems. Someone mentioned that no other foreigner survived in a Korean BW gaming house for more than 6 months and Idra been there for 2-3 years, with no one that speaks English.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 11 2013 15:13 GMT
#38
Getting a good contract and then making it official can be long.
Remember that even a guy like Polt took multiple month to finally reveal his new sponsor / team.
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Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
May 11 2013 15:33 GMT
#39
WhiteRa should start a team with him
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 11 2013 15:34 GMT
#40
On May 11 2013 21:38 DavoS wrote:
Dimaga is a wild card too; some days he plays just like any other strong foreigner, and other days he 2-0's Mvp and comes close to beating MKP in a BO5. It's hard to say whether or not he can compete with Koreans and that's a trait foreign teams are desperately looking for

Pretty much. Remember back then when Nestea was one of the best Zerg players on the planet, and also had one of the, if not the best ZvZs, he was 10-0 then in GSL in ZvZ, against all other great Zerg players, and Dimaga was the first Zerg to take a game from him.
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grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 15:43:12
May 11 2013 15:43 GMT
#41
On May 12 2013 00:08 Chillaxing wrote:
My friend told me this.
Show nested quote +
Kind of sad, Idra probably has legitimate mental problems. Someone mentioned that no other foreigner survived in a Korean BW gaming house for more than 6 months and Idra been there for 2-3 years, with no one that speaks English.

This is one of the two threads here that is actually not about him. Can we keep it this way please?
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
May 11 2013 15:59 GMT
#42
His english is pretty damn good, he topped his wcs group and the fact that he's an overall charismatic and skilled guy, this question have been on my mind as well. Someone should pick him up.
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Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
May 11 2013 16:04 GMT
#43
On May 12 2013 00:59 JacobShock wrote:
His english is pretty damn good, he topped his wcs group and the fact that he's an overall charismatic and skilled guy, this question have been on my mind as well. Someone should pick him up.

To be honest after topping his group Dimaga value rose. He now can carefully pick the team. He shouldnt rush it.
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
May 11 2013 16:17 GMT
#44
dimaga no need team for win...
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Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
May 11 2013 16:21 GMT
#45
On May 12 2013 01:17 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
dimaga no need team for win...

plain and simple, that's how this man does it
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GoldenH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 16:28:39
May 11 2013 16:28 GMT
#46
Dimaga + Idra get together to start a team, think about it. Maybe they even start the pro SC2 2s league :D
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KnowMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany228 Posts
May 11 2013 16:29 GMT
#47
theres alrdy a pure zerg team. its called acer
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GoldenH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1115 Posts
May 11 2013 16:32 GMT
#48
There'd be so much drama.. and then they could have WhiteRa and Grubby come visit (nothing serious just to cause tons of news articles)
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MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
May 11 2013 16:35 GMT
#49
Yeah I heard EG is short a zerg... Unfortunately. I'm still kind of reeling over that whole thing, but yeah EG could pick him up and send him to Korea for Proleague maybe.
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 17:25:36
May 11 2013 16:37 GMT
#50
On May 12 2013 01:35 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Yeah I heard EG is short a zerg... Unfortunately. I'm still kind of reeling over that whole thing, but yeah EG could pick him up and send him to Korea for Proleague maybe.

He is married, he won't go to korea for proleague..

edit : He said that he was not willing to go in korea in an interview (he only said he would be ok to go for a tournament, go, play, go back)
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Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
May 11 2013 16:49 GMT
#51
On May 12 2013 01:37 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 01:35 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Yeah I heard EG is short a zerg... Unfortunately. I'm still kind of reeling over that whole thing, but yeah EG could pick him up and send him to Korea for Proleague maybe.

He is married, he won't go to korea for proleague..


So true

Dima's marriage probably dictate a lot of his choice of teams and what teams can pick him up
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Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
May 11 2013 16:52 GMT
#52
Probably has high wage demands that the teams are not willing to pay.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
May 11 2013 17:10 GMT
#53
Didn't he say in his interview on WCS EU that he was already in talks with a new team and that it'll be finalized soon?
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eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 17:35:29
May 11 2013 17:18 GMT
#54
On May 11 2013 20:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.


LOL.

4-0'd his WCS group and got some pretty good results in online cups? Clearly too old to compete. ;p


Nestea was doing better than dimaga at a much older age. 3 years later he's not producing much result. He had to escape to AM* for an invitation to play in WCS because he knew he wouldn't be able to compete in korea. Most of these older players will most likely have the same fate. Hence "getting too old".

On May 11 2013 21:58 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.


Stupid comments like this cracks me up everytime.
I suppose you wouldn't denied that F1 racing is much more demanding physically than SC2, in department of endurance, as well as reflexes. You need godly skill when racing through Monaco, or any other technical circuit, and yet drivers way past 30 can race successfully, more yet, they can even win championships (look at Schumacher).

So no, SC2 is not unwinnable for older players, only motivation, skill and training regime are deciding factor.


Most people trained for racing at a very young age to become a top racer. SC2 is a game that will last at most 10 years. It doesn't provide nearly the same financial support as F1 racing nor the reputation you get out of it. When was the last time you saw MVP on a magazine dedicated to SC2? Please don't compare SC2 to F1 racing.

People at dimaga's age will eventually consider their future in the esports scene and assess the risk whether it is worth to stay in the scene or not. And as you starting doubting esports, your skill level will decrease and that gradually grows with age.
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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 11 2013 17:22 GMT
#55
I think travel is difficult.

He once said that he doesn't go to many LANs because of travel. He lives somewhere relatively remote in ukraine so it basically takes a full day to get to Kiev, and then from there it's always multiple flights to get anywhere, even if it's just in europe, and this is why you almost never see him outside of europe.

If it's difficult to get him to attend events, that could be a factor in his negotiations.
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
May 11 2013 17:24 GMT
#56
On May 12 2013 02:22 Oboeman wrote:
I think travel is difficult.

He once said that he doesn't go to many LANs because of travel. He lives somewhere relatively remote in ukraine so it basically takes a full day to get to Kiev, and then from there it's always multiple flights to get anywhere, even if it's just in europe, and this is why you almost never see him outside of europe.

If it's difficult to get him to attend events, that could be a factor in his negotiations.

Makes sense
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eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
May 11 2013 17:28 GMT
#57
On May 11 2013 20:56 BaaL` wrote:
He said on his stream about a week ago (roughly): he has a manager of sorts that is looking for a deal with a team, but it's not easy and taking a lot of time. Currently they are in negotiation with a team though (not disclosed), making progress. He does get offers. He didn't explain why it would take long.


Because if your offer is agreed upon with no resistance, then you're probably underselling yourself. 4 Months for a long term contract isn't long at all, especially when money is involved.
RuhRoh is my herO
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10243 Posts
May 11 2013 18:07 GMT
#58
On May 11 2013 20:33 Zeon0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.

they may be better (may, not sure about this), but u gain nothing out of them. If Shuttle shows up for WCS EU nobody cares, if Dimaga shows up, the crowd goes crazy.

Thats the reason why IdrA was/is one of the most earning players: he has a huge fanbase.

This is the true pitfall of SC2 - fanbase cares about white people from their country winning more than highest possible level of competition.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Nomak88
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia4 Posts
May 11 2013 18:14 GMT
#59
I just asked him if team liquid asked him to join them, would he...and he replied with "yes i would...although they have not asked me"
Seriously...either EG or Liquid!!!
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
May 11 2013 22:27 GMT
#60
On May 12 2013 03:07 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 20:33 Zeon0 wrote:
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.

they may be better (may, not sure about this), but u gain nothing out of them. If Shuttle shows up for WCS EU nobody cares, if Dimaga shows up, the crowd goes crazy.

Thats the reason why IdrA was/is one of the most earning players: he has a huge fanbase.

This is the true pitfall of SC2 - fanbase cares about white people from their country winning more than highest possible level of competition.

for me its like 2 different things

I like GSL cause its awesome play, but I also like the WCS EU Qualifiers, watching Bischu, Tefel etc is also kinda nice.
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
iyasq8
Profile Joined December 2012
113 Posts
May 11 2013 22:37 GMT
#61
he obviously wants to win WCS international and then get team that pays him $1000000000 a year
Piece
Teodice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden641 Posts
May 12 2013 07:11 GMT
#62
On May 11 2013 21:53 a3den wrote:
If I was the manager of a mid-tier euro team, I would already have snatched him.


Yeah. That's how it works.
You will still be here tomorrow, but your dreams may not
csa_andrew
Profile Joined July 2010
United States334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 07:26:23
May 12 2013 07:19 GMT
#63
Hi guys I'm DIMAGA's personal manager, don't worry we will have exciting news soon.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 07:30:18
May 12 2013 07:30 GMT
#64
On May 12 2013 02:18 eScaper-tsunami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 20:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.


LOL.

4-0'd his WCS group and got some pretty good results in online cups? Clearly too old to compete. ;p


Nestea was doing better than dimaga at a much older age. 3 years later he's not producing much result. He had to escape to AM* for an invitation to play in WCS because he knew he wouldn't be able to compete in korea. Most of these older players will most likely have the same fate. Hence "getting too old".


This is false, NesTea's success is also owed to his insane bracket luck which almost constantly pitted him against absolutely terrible players that should NEVER have been in Code S in the first place. (but were, because of the faulty system they had back then)

"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
May 12 2013 07:31 GMT
#65
On May 11 2013 20:17 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 20:11 brieN wrote:
When Navi announced they would return to sc2, I fully expected to see his name on the list. However he was not and as the best ukrainian imo was a shock. And being without a team for almost 4 months and still getting great results is strange. Is there a reason for him staying teamless or has he slipped under the radar? I heard eg needs a new zerg


Best Ukrainian? That's really hotly contested at the moment, what with Strelok, Bly and Kas also doing very very well recently, arguably better than DIMAGA.

Anyway, I wouldn't worry about him. With someone of DIMAGA's skill level and reputation, it's probably more a case of him waiting for a good deal rather than no team wanting to pick him up. And even then, I think he's doing alright even without a team.


i think 99% think hes the best ukraine, strelok good since a few weeks, bly and kas are not his level.
as far as i heared he is in talk with teams deep since long. why make contract BEFORE finigh high in wcs, he will get so much moreafter
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heartagram
Profile Joined May 2013
178 Posts
May 12 2013 07:46 GMT
#66
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 12 2013 07:48 GMT
#67
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
heartagram
Profile Joined May 2013
178 Posts
May 12 2013 07:53 GMT
#68
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 12 2013 08:06 GMT
#69
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Getting swept in the Eizo Cup finals doesn't exactly help prove my point, but if you take the time to look you'll see he's been doing alright recently. I'd like to see 25+ foreigners who 4-0'd their WCS group, where the stakes are probably highest.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
heartagram
Profile Joined May 2013
178 Posts
May 12 2013 08:14 GMT
#70
On May 12 2013 17:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Getting swept in the Eizo Cup finals doesn't exactly help prove my point, but if you take the time to look you'll see he's been doing alright recently. I'd like to see 25+ foreigners who 4-0'd their WCS group, where the stakes are probably highest.



rank 76 on ladder with one of the lowest winrates in GM.

Wager? I'll give you 2-1 odds that he doesn't make it out of his ro16 group.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 12 2013 08:16 GMT
#71
On May 12 2013 17:14 heartagram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 17:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Getting swept in the Eizo Cup finals doesn't exactly help prove my point, but if you take the time to look you'll see he's been doing alright recently. I'd like to see 25+ foreigners who 4-0'd their WCS group, where the stakes are probably highest.



rank 76 on ladder with one of the lowest winrates in GM.

Wager? I'll give you 2-1 odds that he doesn't make it out of his ro16 group.


I'm sure ladder is relevant... that's why MarineKing has won so many GSLs... oh wait.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12542 Posts
May 12 2013 08:17 GMT
#72
On May 12 2013 16:19 csn_andrew wrote:
Hi guys I'm DIMAGA's personal manager, don't worry we will have exciting news soon.

that's awesome to hear. dimaga is a really solid good player that really deserve more attention to.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
heartagram
Profile Joined May 2013
178 Posts
May 12 2013 08:18 GMT
#73
On May 12 2013 17:16 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 17:14 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 17:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Getting swept in the Eizo Cup finals doesn't exactly help prove my point, but if you take the time to look you'll see he's been doing alright recently. I'd like to see 25+ foreigners who 4-0'd their WCS group, where the stakes are probably highest.



rank 76 on ladder with one of the lowest winrates in GM.

Wager? I'll give you 2-1 odds that he doesn't make it out of his ro16 group.


I'm sure ladder is relevant... that's why MarineKing has won so many GSLs... oh wait.


ok, so dodge?
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 12 2013 08:20 GMT
#74
On May 12 2013 17:18 heartagram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 17:16 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 17:14 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 17:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Getting swept in the Eizo Cup finals doesn't exactly help prove my point, but if you take the time to look you'll see he's been doing alright recently. I'd like to see 25+ foreigners who 4-0'd their WCS group, where the stakes are probably highest.



rank 76 on ladder with one of the lowest winrates in GM.

Wager? I'll give you 2-1 odds that he doesn't make it out of his ro16 group.


I'm sure ladder is relevant... that's why MarineKing has won so many GSLs... oh wait.


ok, so dodge?


What?
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
heartagram
Profile Joined May 2013
178 Posts
May 12 2013 08:25 GMT
#75
On May 12 2013 17:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 17:18 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 17:16 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 17:14 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 17:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Getting swept in the Eizo Cup finals doesn't exactly help prove my point, but if you take the time to look you'll see he's been doing alright recently. I'd like to see 25+ foreigners who 4-0'd their WCS group, where the stakes are probably highest.



rank 76 on ladder with one of the lowest winrates in GM.

Wager? I'll give you 2-1 odds that he doesn't make it out of his ro16 group.


I'm sure ladder is relevant... that's why MarineKing has won so many GSLs... oh wait.


ok, so dodge?


What?



Wager? I'll give you 2-1 odds that he doesn't make it out of his ro16 group.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 12 2013 08:26 GMT
#76
On May 12 2013 17:25 heartagram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 17:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 17:18 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 17:16 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 17:14 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 17:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Getting swept in the Eizo Cup finals doesn't exactly help prove my point, but if you take the time to look you'll see he's been doing alright recently. I'd like to see 25+ foreigners who 4-0'd their WCS group, where the stakes are probably highest.



rank 76 on ladder with one of the lowest winrates in GM.

Wager? I'll give you 2-1 odds that he doesn't make it out of his ro16 group.


I'm sure ladder is relevant... that's why MarineKing has won so many GSLs... oh wait.


ok, so dodge?


What?



Wager? I'll give you 2-1 odds that he doesn't make it out of his ro16 group.


Probably not, then again it's the easiest group to make it out of so maybe he will.

Either way, he's doing a lot better than you give him credit for, but I guess if you don't follow online tournaments you wouldn't know that.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
May 12 2013 08:34 GMT
#77
It's not because no one wants him. It's because he either doesn't want to be on a team or he simply asks for too much money.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
May 12 2013 08:34 GMT
#78
On May 12 2013 17:14 heartagram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 17:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Getting swept in the Eizo Cup finals doesn't exactly help prove my point, but if you take the time to look you'll see he's been doing alright recently. I'd like to see 25+ foreigners who 4-0'd their WCS group, where the stakes are probably highest.



rank 76 on ladder with one of the lowest winrates in GM.

Wager? I'll give you 2-1 odds that he doesn't make it out of his ro16 group.

Ladder is the place to train and get better, not to win.
It's good to be back
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
May 12 2013 08:58 GMT
#79
Because he's a fully grown man. That's just heavy.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
May 12 2013 09:13 GMT
#80
There have been negociations with european teams but it failed because he asked too much money for what he is worth today. However, several teams are interested in him.
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
May 12 2013 09:33 GMT
#81
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-

Yeah xD
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
May 12 2013 09:41 GMT
#82
On May 12 2013 16:19 csn_andrew wrote:
Hi guys I'm DIMAGA's personal manager, don't worry we will have exciting news soon.

Why has no one quoted this man yet?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
May 12 2013 09:49 GMT
#83
On May 12 2013 18:41 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 16:19 csn_andrew wrote:
Hi guys I'm DIMAGA's personal manager, don't worry we will have exciting news soon.

Why has no one quoted this man yet?

One has quoted the quote of this man, are you happily quoted yet ?
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Arcus
Profile Joined June 2011
United States32 Posts
May 12 2013 10:07 GMT
#84
On May 12 2013 18:49 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 18:41 Seeker wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:19 csn_andrew wrote:
Hi guys I'm DIMAGA's personal manager, don't worry we will have exciting news soon.

Why has no one quoted this man yet?

One has quoted the quote of this man, are you happily quoted yet ?

The quoting has been extended to the third level. Has the quoting quota been met?
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
May 12 2013 10:12 GMT
#85
On May 12 2013 19:07 Arcus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 18:49 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
On May 12 2013 18:41 Seeker wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:19 csn_andrew wrote:
Hi guys I'm DIMAGA's personal manager, don't worry we will have exciting news soon.

Why has no one quoted this man yet?

One has quoted the quote of this man, are you happily quoted yet ?

The quoting has been extended to the third level. Has the quoting quota been met?


Quite so my friend, quite so.
Cogito, ergo toss.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 13:52:59
May 12 2013 13:52 GMT
#86
On May 12 2013 19:12 Zackeva wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 19:07 Arcus wrote:
On May 12 2013 18:49 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
On May 12 2013 18:41 Seeker wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:19 csn_andrew wrote:
Hi guys I'm DIMAGA's personal manager, don't worry we will have exciting news soon.

Why has no one quoted this man yet?

One has quoted the quote of this man, are you happily quoted yet ?

The quoting has been extended to the third level. Has the quoting quota been met?


Quite so my friend, quite so.

Oh man. You missed a great opportunity to say "Quote so my friend, quote so".

It's cool. I did it for you.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 14:21:43
May 12 2013 14:09 GMT
#87
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..

So adamant. There are other factors to consider when recruiting a player besides results as well. Access to the Eastern European market, he has solid name recognition and his stream pulls in good numbers.

While I think that a personal sponsorship would perhaps suit him better, CM Storm would be a good fit imo, Dimaga is probably more marketable than 80% of your aforementioned 25+ foreign players.

Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
May 12 2013 14:20 GMT
#88
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..

Mention 25 teamless foreigner better than DIMAGA.

Candidates: Bischu, JonnyREcco, Targa. Anymore?
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 12 2013 14:27 GMT
#89
On May 12 2013 23:20 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..

Mention 25 teamless foreigner better than DIMAGA.

Candidates: Bischu, JonnyREcco, Targa. Anymore?


JonnyREcco better than DIMAGA? Is this supposed to be a joke? XD
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
May 12 2013 14:34 GMT
#90
On May 12 2013 23:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 23:20 Grovbolle wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..

Mention 25 teamless foreigner better than DIMAGA.

Candidates: Bischu, JonnyREcco, Targa. Anymore?


JonnyREcco better than DIMAGA? Is this supposed to be a joke? XD

I am not saying he is, just pointing out that there are very few candidates for the list of 25 foreigner, who are teamless and ALSO better than DIMAGA.
Just finding 25 decent teamless foreigners is pretty impossible
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Misacampo
Profile Joined July 2012
167 Posts
May 12 2013 14:51 GMT
#91
Didn't he recently get married? If I was a team manager, I would NOT want to pick him up as I would not think his mind would be 100% on the game.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
May 12 2013 14:59 GMT
#92
Dimaga is one of the best pick ups you could make as a team, so it's probably just a matter of him finding something he thinks is acceptable
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Aelendis
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium892 Posts
May 12 2013 15:13 GMT
#93
On May 12 2013 23:51 Misacampo wrote:
Didn't he recently get married? If I was a team manager, I would NOT want to pick him up as I would not think his mind would be 100% on the game.


I don't think this is that much relevant. I'm under the impression that everytime I log on TL he is streaming. It's like a real job, you don't have your application denied on the sole basis that you are married and so you wouldn't be focused on your job 100%.

However I do agree that it's probably bad for travelling and so on, but Dima has never been a big traveller.
MagnuMizer
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Denmark384 Posts
May 12 2013 15:17 GMT
#94
Trust me, being teamless aint bad

just look at grubby or idra, they are both doing great!

getting a lot of stream viewers
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 12 2013 15:19 GMT
#95
On May 12 2013 23:51 Misacampo wrote:
Didn't he recently get married? If I was a team manager, I would NOT want to pick him up as I would not think his mind would be 100% on the game.

He did, but to me marriage says stability. Combine that with the fact he stayed on mTw to the bitter end, he has a good sense of loyalty to a team (almost to a fault with mTw as he was their last remaining SC2 player after Supernova left) Compare that with picking up much younger players who lack maturity and change teams like clothing.
EpicDemente
Profile Joined November 2012
Chile202 Posts
May 12 2013 17:00 GMT
#96
Dimaga said he has an agent helping him to get a team, and the process was kinda slow so thats why he is not in a team yet but he will be soon
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MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
May 12 2013 18:12 GMT
#97
On May 12 2013 22:52 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 19:12 Zackeva wrote:
On May 12 2013 19:07 Arcus wrote:
On May 12 2013 18:49 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
On May 12 2013 18:41 Seeker wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:19 csn_andrew wrote:
Hi guys I'm DIMAGA's personal manager, don't worry we will have exciting news soon.

Why has no one quoted this man yet?

One has quoted the quote of this man, are you happily quoted yet ?

The quoting has been extended to the third level. Has the quoting quota been met?


Quite so my friend, quite so.

Oh man. You missed a great opportunity to say "Quote so my friend, quote so".

It's cool. I did it for you.


quoted for truth

missed quote an opportunity
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 18:36:26
May 12 2013 18:32 GMT
#98
On May 12 2013 00:34 Ramiz1989 wrote:
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On May 11 2013 21:38 DavoS wrote:
Dimaga is a wild card too; some days he plays just like any other strong foreigner, and other days he 2-0's Mvp and comes close to beating MKP in a BO5. It's hard to say whether or not he can compete with Koreans and that's a trait foreign teams are desperately looking for

Pretty much. Remember back then when Nestea was one of the best Zerg players on the planet, and also had one of the, if not the best ZvZs, he was 10-0 then in GSL in ZvZ, against all other great Zerg players, and Dimaga was the first Zerg to take a game from him.


Inconsistency can be such a pain :/

On May 12 2013 23:20 Grovbolle wrote:
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On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..

Mention 25 teamless foreigner better than DIMAGA.

Candidates: Bischu, JonnyREcco, Targa. Anymore?



misread as Targe, flipped the fuck out for a second.
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
May 12 2013 18:53 GMT
#99
He said in his interview that he was in talks with teams (or his manager, Andrew, was...same guy who got Violet his sweet deal with Azubu)
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Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
May 12 2013 18:55 GMT
#100
Dimaga joins CM Storm along with Polt. Heard it here first.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 12 2013 19:24 GMT
#101
On May 13 2013 03:32 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 23:20 Grovbolle wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..

Mention 25 teamless foreigner better than DIMAGA.

Candidates: Bischu, JonnyREcco, Targa. Anymore?



misread as Targe, flipped the fuck out for a second.


I misread your name as Targa all the time, and then get disappointed and/or pissed. -_-
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Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 19:29:44
May 12 2013 19:29 GMT
#102
I'm sure he will find a new time soon. His play in HotS is pretty amazing, especially in WCS EU.
He also has a huge fanbase.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 12 2013 19:32 GMT
#103
He's too sexy for his teams.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 12 2013 20:40 GMT
#104
On May 13 2013 04:24 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 03:32 Targe wrote:
On May 12 2013 23:20 Grovbolle wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:53 heartagram wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:48 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 12 2013 16:46 heartagram wrote:
He's not a very strong player, but is popular so probably thinks he's worth more than teams want to pay.


Joined TL.net Friday, 3rd of May 2013

Yeah it shows... people who don't follow the scene closely seriously shouldn't talk about who is a strong player and who isn't -_-


You know I've literally watched every SC2 tournament that has ever been played since 2010 right? I have no life and am on here or reddit 12+ hours a day. Have also played 7000 games.. shut up

He's like White-ra now. I don't have anything against him, but there are probably 25+ foreigners better than him atm. He's 1-12 in his last 6 games..

Mention 25 teamless foreigner better than DIMAGA.

Candidates: Bischu, JonnyREcco, Targa. Anymore?



misread as Targe, flipped the fuck out for a second.


I misread your name as Targa all the time, and then get disappointed and/or pissed. -_-


haha it's amazing to me that your recognize me, I feel like I'm a nobody 10 post user usually ^^

don't be pissed, I'm just as interesting!
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Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
May 12 2013 20:48 GMT
#105
On May 12 2013 02:18 eScaper-tsunami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 20:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.


LOL.

4-0'd his WCS group and got some pretty good results in online cups? Clearly too old to compete. ;p


Nestea was doing better than dimaga at a much older age. 3 years later he's not producing much result. He had to escape to AM* for an invitation to play in WCS because he knew he wouldn't be able to compete in korea. Most of these older players will most likely have the same fate. Hence "getting too old".

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On May 11 2013 21:58 Embir wrote:
On May 11 2013 20:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Because almost all well known foreign pros have become way too old to compete. Its better for a team to pick up young talent or korean code a/b players.


Stupid comments like this cracks me up everytime.
I suppose you wouldn't denied that F1 racing is much more demanding physically than SC2, in department of endurance, as well as reflexes. You need godly skill when racing through Monaco, or any other technical circuit, and yet drivers way past 30 can race successfully, more yet, they can even win championships (look at Schumacher).

So no, SC2 is not unwinnable for older players, only motivation, skill and training regime are deciding factor.


Most people trained for racing at a very young age to become a top racer. SC2 is a game that will last at most 10 years. It doesn't provide nearly the same financial support as F1 racing nor the reputation you get out of it. When was the last time you saw MVP on a magazine dedicated to SC2? Please don't compare SC2 to F1 racing.

People at dimaga's age will eventually consider their future in the esports scene and assess the risk whether it is worth to stay in the scene or not. And as you starting doubting esports, your skill level will decrease and that gradually grows with age.


Still, lack of results are connected to lack of motivation not age. My point stil stands.
CarlosOmse
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany507 Posts
June 05 2013 05:37 GMT
#106
Didnt Dimaga say during wcs that he would announce a new Team on June 3rd?? so far i couldnt find anything
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BoggieMan
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
520 Posts
June 05 2013 05:42 GMT
#107
This is probably a personal matter for him.
There probably are teams interested in picking him up, but if they can't come to an agreement on a contract, then there aren't gonna be one.
Could be that dimaga dosen't want to do what some proteams require their players to do (streaming, traveling to events or something else) or maybe dimaga dosen't think they offer enough in salary, who cares. what flag he's playing under dosen't make him less awesome
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
June 05 2013 10:49 GMT
#108
As far as I know from popular social CIS network (vk.com), from he's personal page, Dimaga is going to announce he's new team today, approximately at 15-00 CET

Also, Dimaga successfully recieved he's Korean visa today, so he will represent Europe in WCS finals for sure.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
June 05 2013 10:53 GMT
#109
On June 05 2013 19:49 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
As far as I know from popular social CIS network (vk.com), from he's personal page, Dimaga is going to announce he's new team today, approximately at 15-00 CET

Also, Dimaga successfully recieved he's Korean visa today, so he will represent Europe in WCS finals for sure.

oGsDimaga please!!!!! + Show Spoiler +
willing to settle for SKT.Dimaga
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
June 05 2013 10:56 GMT
#110
On June 05 2013 19:53 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 19:49 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
As far as I know from popular social CIS network (vk.com), from he's personal page, Dimaga is going to announce he's new team today, approximately at 15-00 CET

Also, Dimaga successfully recieved he's Korean visa today, so he will represent Europe in WCS finals for sure.

oGsDimaga please!!!!! + Show Spoiler +
willing to settle for SKT.Dimaga


To be honest, it's hard to predict, but most likely it would be European/CIS team, predicting Empire/Millenium/mouz picked him, rarely possible it could be NaVi/fnatic.
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QuackPocketDuck
Profile Joined January 2011
410 Posts
June 05 2013 10:56 GMT
#111
I heard he was going to be teamless untill a certain date in June (can't remember exactly) on the rus wcs stream
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furo
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany449 Posts
June 05 2013 10:57 GMT
#112
mouzdimaga
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
June 05 2013 10:58 GMT
#113
On June 05 2013 19:56 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 19:53 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 05 2013 19:49 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
As far as I know from popular social CIS network (vk.com), from he's personal page, Dimaga is going to announce he's new team today, approximately at 15-00 CET

Also, Dimaga successfully recieved he's Korean visa today, so he will represent Europe in WCS finals for sure.

oGsDimaga please!!!!! + Show Spoiler +
willing to settle for SKT.Dimaga


To be honest, it's hard to predict, but most likely it would be European/CIS team, predicting Empire/Millenium/mouz picked him, rarely possible it could be NaVi/fnatic.

Yeah I'm fooling around. I fully expect it to be a nice Euro team. Empire seems like a nice fit for him. Would like to see him and Kas team up.
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Miss_Foxy
Profile Joined March 2012
Singapore109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 13:27:42
June 05 2013 12:24 GMT
#114
Speak of the Dimaga, or should I say ROCCATDIMAGA
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Brainyac
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany199 Posts
June 05 2013 12:26 GMT
#115
It's ROCCATDimage
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NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
June 05 2013 12:46 GMT
#116
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416020
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10811 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 12:47:43
June 05 2013 12:47 GMT
#117
But how many DPIIIIII has he?
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
June 05 2013 12:55 GMT
#118
funny to see 2 threads on the left hand side of the TL page, one titled ROCCAT.DIMAGA. and one titled why doesnt dimaga have a team!

congrats to dimaga :D
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
June 05 2013 14:57 GMT
#119
On June 05 2013 21:47 Velr wrote:
But how many DPIIIIII has he?


rumour has it that roccat have pushed the dpi to levels higher than ever seen before. levels that will blow your tiny minds.
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