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INnoVation is getting all the spotlights in Korea at the moment. Dailyesports and ThisisGame did two long interviews of INnoVation to documenting the rise of this great Terran player. This thread is an edited compilation of two Korean interview. There are just some highlights from the two interviews not the whole articles since the original articles are a little bit too long.
There two interviews are new ones that came out May, 3rd and May, 9th.
Sorry for the unpolished translation. But enjoy!
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The Complete Anatomy of INnoVation: The Rise of A Tough Rookie
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In HOTS, two players got the most spotlights. They are KT.Flash and STX.INnoVation. Both players are of similar results in SPL, but based on individual league, INnoVation is now called the first Terran by many people. There is probably no denial of this.
However, a few years ago, STX.INnoVation was a representative of complete noob in SPL. His personal result was only ok during SPL 08-09 and 10-11. Even though he became the ACE player of STX Soul in the later days of SC1, his team was in bad shape. His personal performance during hybrid SPL was terrible: 3-wins and 9-losses. He had 6 SC2 games and they were all losses.
INnoVation’s rise was after the end of the hybrid SPL. And the GSL Season 5 in 2012 was the proof of his rising performance. So we interviewed STX Soul head coach to talk about the rise of this tough rookie.
STX Soul head coach: "Overall, based on SC1, INnoVation was top 1 or 2 Terran, especially during the rookie period. If it is to say that Flash's overall score was 70 during his rookie period, then INnoVation's score on macro was 90, and his strategy's score was 50, and mechanics' score was 70, during his rookie period."
"INnoVation once said to me that televised games are so difficult to adapt to."
"His result today is forged only through hard work, tear, and perspiration. I chose him only because of his macro skills back then. But he rises and work on his weak points through hard work."
"He is not a talented player. A talented player is like Nada. When I chose INnoVation, I had already found his limitations on the 'big sense of StarCraft' [not sure about how to translate], but his hard work helps him get through that."
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INnoVation: Facing New Challenges and To Become the Rising Star
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Who are the stars of SC2 HOTS at the moment? There are Life and Flash, but there is another strongman, that is STX. INnoVation. We went to the team house and interviewed him. It was a holiday but he was still in the team house and practicing.
INnoVation: “…I am still far from my ideal type of player. My weaknesses brought me nerves and pressures. I must do better…”
We talked about the transition from SC1 to SC2. Many players had resistance to SC2, but INnoVation was not one of them.
INnoVation: “I think SC1 is way too difficult. So I didn’t feel pressure, burden, or regret, during the transition. I only thought I need to work hard.”
“The graphics is much better. But the adaptation was hard. WoL’s Terran was more difficult to play than the other two races, so it was difficult.”
“I’m the type of player that has fast APM, good production circle, good mechanics, and good macro. So SC2 gives me more advantages than SC1.”
“WoL’s Terran was really difficult. So I was not sure whether I should have high expectation of HOTS. But the new units changed a lot of things. Terran becomes better. I’m satisfied.”
“Only two days after the release of HOTS, I needed to go to MLG. I practiced only two days and got the third place in MLG. It was fine. Terran’s macro doesn’t change much so I can adapt very quickly.”
“I don’t think I’m good at TvZ, but my teammates have been spreading the rumor that I’m good (laugh). There are tons of people who are better at TvZ. I only have higher winrates on ladder.”
“Although it’s kinda thick-skin to say this, but I can’t win when facing a great Zerg. Last time, I lost to Soulkey, right? Flash is actually better at TvZ. His maneuver and micro are really outstanding.”
“Micro is the most important thing in TvZ. Unit composition is the most important thing in TvP. But I have no clue in TvT. Medivac boost makes bio too fast. I am a little confused sometimes. My TvT is bad recently. I can't find a perfect way to do TvT.”
“I think in all the new units, widow mine is good. It has more mobility and is easier to micro than tank. As to hellbat, I can’t find the place to use it. Other Terrans use it in TvP, but I haven’t tried it. I need to do more research on that.”
“I haven’t found my style yet. So I am working on the main stream strategies.”
INnoVation said that his goal is to be a shining star who gets SPL and WCS championships. He is not satisfied at the moment and will work hard to show his skills. INnoVation thanks his fans at last and said he will how good games to satisfy the fans.
Source:
http://s.163.com/13/0503/16/8TVC6QPK00314Q8T.html
http://s.163.com/13/0511/00/8UI9SD6L00314Q8T.html
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“Only two days after the release of HOTS, I need to go to MLG. I practiced only two days and got the third place in MLG. It was fine. Terran’s macro doesn’t change much so I can adapt very quickly.”
Well...that achievement just became amazing holy shit..0.O Kespa pros are madness! Thanks for the interviews
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overall despite what he said, I still Innovation is the best Terran and all around player in the world atm. Just a few more months of shaping up TvT and TvP then he'll dominate the scene.
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Innovation is a beast. my new fav player!
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Hope he can win GSL this season!
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On May 11 2013 03:51 Xymos wrote:
Hope he can win GSL this season!
I hope he wins too. It's a long time since we don't have a Terran GSL champion.
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I personally don't think anyone can beat him that's left in the GSL. Flash or Life could possibly, in a bo5 or bo7.
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He's so good and has a great work ethic. he's pretty modest too. I think he has a good chance of winning GSL and WCS as a whole.
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He sounds like he is a terrible player.... He really wants to be the best.
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Obvious best player in the world! Really surprised by his humble and honest nature. Also agree with TvT... It's pretty chaotic. WoL TvT was so much better imo, now it feels a lot more like ZvZ or even PvP to some extent.
As for players that can beat him? I think Roro and Soulkey are both good candidates. Also sOs could as well, but I think Innovation would do much better against sOs in a bo7 than a bo1 or bo3.
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SoS and Soulkey have a chance.
WOW. I've always been the first to say innovation is overhyped, but reading this interview, I kinda feel bad. He's SOOO modest, lol.
Even if its true, he has the courage to openly admit his biggest terran rival is better than him in TVZ. Now that deserves respect.
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Typical korean culture to be so humble  but with innovation being so good it almost becomes sarcastic
I hope for a good gsl run!
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Thx for uploading this! You can´t dislike this guy, So humble and nice and amazing at the game!
I hope he wins the WCS!!
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A player that can correlate effort and degree of improvement will go very far
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Impressive - gotta like a guy who just goes to work to be good at what he does.
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what he thinks flash has better tvz and yet innovation smashes life and 99% of other zergs O_o. Very modest he doesn't realize how imba he is 
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On May 11 2013 04:13 Ph4ZeD wrote:
I personally don't think anyone can beat him that's left in the GSL. Flash or Life could possibly, in a bo5 or bo7.
Well I guess its a good thing he 2-0'd life and I think flash during Ro16. I'm pretty sure sOs can take him down considering sOs 2-0d Innovation at the AIMA
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On May 11 2013 04:18 tozi wrote:
Even if its true, he has the courage to openly admit his biggest terran rival is better than him in TVZ. Now that deserves respect.
Flash said the same about Innovation
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I like his glasses-free look. Cool that he's so humble.
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On May 11 2013 04:26 blade55555 wrote:what he thinks flash has better tvz and yet innovation smashes life and 99% of other zergs O_o. Very modest he doesn't realize how imba he is
Once he realizes how imba he is, he will go down 
It's hard to cope with that
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On May 11 2013 04:34 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:26 blade55555 wrote:what he thinks flash has better tvz and yet innovation smashes life and 99% of other zergs O_o. Very modest he doesn't realize how imba he is Once he realizes how imba he is, he will go down It's hard to cope with that
This is actually very true.
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Love this guy, hope he wins man, as long as he's not emotionless when he takes the last game. Though I don't think that'd be the case since he couldn't retain his grin from winning his ro16 group
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On May 11 2013 04:34 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:26 blade55555 wrote:what he thinks flash has better tvz and yet innovation smashes life and 99% of other zergs O_o. Very modest he doesn't realize how imba he is Once he realizes how imba he is, he will go down It's hard to cope with that
Is it only me that cought a hint of sarcasm in that interview ?
Reminds me some of Flash's OSL interviews.
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On May 11 2013 04:35 larse wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:34 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:On May 11 2013 04:26 blade55555 wrote:what he thinks flash has better tvz and yet innovation smashes life and 99% of other zergs O_o. Very modest he doesn't realize how imba he is Once he realizes how imba he is, he will go down It's hard to cope with that This is actually very true.
Flash could more than cope with it, he was announcing his winning streaks ahead of time in BW. XD
Nice interviews though.
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On May 11 2013 04:46 quirinus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:35 larse wrote:On May 11 2013 04:34 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:On May 11 2013 04:26 blade55555 wrote:what he thinks flash has better tvz and yet innovation smashes life and 99% of other zergs O_o. Very modest he doesn't realize how imba he is Once he realizes how imba he is, he will go down It's hard to cope with that This is actually very true. Flash could more than cope with it, he was announcing his winning streaks ahead of time in BW. XD Nice interviews though.
And there were times when people actually bought his humbleness, he toyed with people in interviews, also he used interviews to mindfuck his competetitors in OSL/MSL.
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On May 11 2013 04:46 quirinus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:35 larse wrote:On May 11 2013 04:34 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:On May 11 2013 04:26 blade55555 wrote:what he thinks flash has better tvz and yet innovation smashes life and 99% of other zergs O_o. Very modest he doesn't realize how imba he is Once he realizes how imba he is, he will go down It's hard to cope with that This is actually very true. Flash could more than cope with it, he was announcing his winning streaks ahead of time in BW. XD Nice interviews though.
I was about to say that Flash was a little different.
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Cool interview Thanks
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Bogus, man.
but seriously, innovation is a monster. i would love to see him win a GSL, and he definitely has the ability to do it
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Really cool guy.
I dont think that anyone can stop him in GSL right now.
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I remember when people laughed at Major because he said Bogus was really good and could win...
How times have changed
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On May 11 2013 04:55 Scones wrote:
I remember when people laughed at Major because he said Bogus was really good and could win...
How times have changed
Gotta take everything MajOr says with a grain of salt.. It's usually just bogus anyway.
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On May 11 2013 04:27 Archen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:13 Ph4ZeD wrote:
I personally don't think anyone can beat him that's left in the GSL. Flash or Life could possibly, in a bo5 or bo7. Well I guess its a good thing he 2-0'd life and I think flash during Ro16. I'm pretty sure sOs can take him down considering sOs 2-0d Innovation at the AIMA
He won 2-1, not 2-0 and he relies pretty much on gimmic play, i doubt he can take out Innovation in a bo5 or bo7.
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TBH, MVP, MKP, MMA, Flash etc. They wont have anything on this guy. He is ahead of his time, he will be what Boxer, Flash and Jaedong together is for BW, for Starcraft II.
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I'll wait calling him the best until he has won a major title. Until then he is just a favorite to win. You never know what happens once he gets into a Ro8 against someone who have had a week to prepare, thats where true champions shine through! There have been many great players who fell when everyone expected him to win. Best example is Squirtle vs Mvp. I hope Innovation doesnt pull a squirtle and destroys everyone throughout the entire tournament and then gets crushed by someone more experienced in a GSL final settings.
Imagine Innovation losing 3-4 against Parting in the final of this season, what a story that would be
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On May 11 2013 05:00 WeRRa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:27 Archen wrote:On May 11 2013 04:13 Ph4ZeD wrote:
I personally don't think anyone can beat him that's left in the GSL. Flash or Life could possibly, in a bo5 or bo7. Well I guess its a good thing he 2-0'd life and I think flash during Ro16. I'm pretty sure sOs can take him down considering sOs 2-0d Innovation at the AIMA He won 2-1, not 2-0 and he relies pretty much on gimmic play, i doubt he can take out Innovation in a bo5 or bo7.
Agreed. Innovation is a very consistent player. sOs is like, a master in Best of 1's and 3's because he will take you offguard. Though, we'll have to see if either actually get to the finals (they are on opposite sides of the bracket). If I had to guess as to what the finals would be, I'd guess Soulkey or Parting versus Innovation.
On May 11 2013 05:13 mnck wrote:I'll wait calling him the best until he has won a major title. Until then he is just a favorite to win. You never know what happens once he gets into a Ro8 against someone who have had a week to prepare, thats where true champions shine through! There have been many great players who fell when everyone expected him to win. Best example is Squirtle vs Mvp. I hope Innovation doesnt pull a squirtle and destroys everyone throughout the entire tournament and then gets crushed by someone more experienced in a GSL final settings. Imagine Innovation losing 3-4 against Parting in the final of this season, what a story that would be
Winning does not necessarily make you the best!! As sad as it may be! Sniper was never the best player in the world. While I think a preparation format helps to create great helps, I also think that it results in players relying on "sniping" builds.
And calling sOs the best player in the world is a bit silly. That Martial-whatever tournament was pure Bo3, anyway! He's really reliant on DT builds, too.
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On May 11 2013 04:13 Ph4ZeD wrote:
I personally don't think anyone can beat him that's left in the GSL. Flash or Life could possibly, in a bo5 or bo7.
He is a much stronger player than Life.
sOs and soulkey have pretty good chances vs Innovation, roro can win too. A lot of people ignore the Asian Indoor + Martial Arts tournament that happened a couple weeks ago, but sOs beat roro, effort, innovation, creator, and life to win it. sOs is probably the world's strongest player atm.
Really don't know why Life gets so much hype when this is now the 3rd straight GSL season he was knocked out by Kespa players. Everyone knew, even Flash said it, that if Innovation had played Life in the MLG finals he would have won.
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On May 11 2013 05:09 Prixm wrote:
TBH, MVP, MKP, MMA, Flash etc. They wont have anything on this guy. He is ahead of his time, he will be what Boxer, Flash and Jaedong together is for BW, for Starcraft II.
Not sure if I agree. Innovation has yet to achieve 10% of what Mvp did. I won't call any player the best in the world until they prove themself such as Mvp,Nestea,Life. Innovation is just one of many top end player who is candidate for the best right now.
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The guy made Life look like some random GM zerg
People forget that Innovation (Bogus) was one of the top terrans at the end of BW along with Flash, Fantasy and Baby. And even his TvZ in BW was amazing. He definitely has the potential to be one of the greatest
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Mvp achieved what he did against much, much weaker competition in a game that was far from understood. The two eras can't be compared.
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Flash interview post-Group of Death please
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Bogus became so good people will call him Innovation seriously now. :d
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On May 11 2013 05:22 rift wrote:
Mvp achieved what he did against much, much weaker competition in a game that was far from understood. The two eras can't be compared.
Because HotS is very understood in comparison to WoL in 2011 - 2012 hahahaahaha, you really need to rethink that.
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On May 11 2013 03:46 Zislu wrote:
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Ooof... Got hit with that blue shell.
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On May 11 2013 04:27 Archen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:13 Ph4ZeD wrote:
I personally don't think anyone can beat him that's left in the GSL. Flash or Life could possibly, in a bo5 or bo7. Well I guess its a good thing he 2-0'd life and I think flash during Ro16. I'm pretty sure sOs can take him down considering sOs 2-0d Innovation at the AIMA
2-1 vs INnoVation and not 2-0.
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What' s Flash's style and strengths in BW? Direct frontline engagement? Crash people head-on?
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On May 11 2013 05:54 larse wrote:
What' s Flash's style and strengths in BW? Direct frontline engagement? Crash people head-on?
Slow boring methodical macro mechanics and positioning : P Something you hate to love.
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Amazing Terran, hope that he stays on top of his game for long time, and maybe be as dominant as Flash was in BW.
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Thank you for posting translation
I hope bogus continues to do well; he is a player that deserves a lot of respect.
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On May 11 2013 05:54 larse wrote:
What' s Flash's style and strengths in BW? Direct frontline engagement? Crash people head-on?
Flash was a very methodical player. His gamesense is beyond maphack. While most players scout to see what their opponent is doing and what their position is, he would often know their opponent by forcing them into certain builds and positions.
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Such a humble Gosu. Very respectable person and player it seems.
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Lol he kinda overdid it with the humbleness there, claiming that flash has better tvz. Absolutely no way. Amazing player this guy, he is the new hero that terran deserves.
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On May 11 2013 06:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Amazing Terran, hope that he stays on top of his game for long time, and maybe be as dominant as Flash was in BW.
That's not something you can simply wish without crossing into absurdity even for someone like Innovation. He'd have to stay the undisputed best player who wins everything and stays a skill tier above 95% of Code S competition for the next 4 years.
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On May 11 2013 05:22 rift wrote:
Mvp achieved what he did against much, much weaker competition in a game that was far from understood. The two eras can't be compared.
load of bs, wol was way more figured out during Mvp's era than hots is right now.
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On May 11 2013 06:16 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 05:22 rift wrote:
Mvp achieved what he did against much, much weaker competition in a game that was far from understood. The two eras can't be compared. load of bs, wol was way more figured out during Mvp's era than hots is right now.
Should be noted also that MVP won GSL's when both Terran AND zerg were imbalanced in a game that was extremely figured out almost to stagnation.
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On May 11 2013 06:00 Hitch-22 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 05:54 larse wrote:
What' s Flash's style and strengths in BW? Direct frontline engagement? Crash people head-on? Slow boring methodical macro mechanics and positioning : P Something you hate to love.
It was the style he was most known for but he had quite a few very timing-ish plays too. And his harrass-oriented games were often godly as well (that game with the drops vs Best, jesus...)
Thanks for the interview. Such a sick player. That old picture of him + the hard work thing actually made me think of Rock Lee (Naruto)
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Innovation is an amazing Terran, but ironically his playstyle doesn't seem very innovative, and I'd go as far to say that every top level terran right now seems to be doing the exact same few builds.
Game is still awesome right now but I think it needs newer maps to keep it fresh!
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Loved the interview, and his critique of himself, as well as his coaches is pretty spot on (well, besides the TvZ thing). He's not a micro monster, he's a macro monster and a up-and-kill-you monster.
I think the one thing he's really upped in his game is his strategy. The thing I love about him is he has this uncanny ability to know that the unit composition he has is enough to just straight up kill you. When he started doing these crazy pushes in WoL where he would just *keep going* when a normal player would have turned around, and ended up just winning the game, I knew he was gonna be pretty special in SC2.
I also think this is the difference between him and Flash. Flash will tend to do death by 1000 paper cuts. He'll out macro you and keep taking little leads until he's so far ahead that you can't catch up to him. Innovation will play until he sees a very specific window where he can just simply end the game.
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On May 11 2013 06:19 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 06:00 Hitch-22 wrote:On May 11 2013 05:54 larse wrote:
What' s Flash's style and strengths in BW? Direct frontline engagement? Crash people head-on? Slow boring methodical macro mechanics and positioning : P Something you hate to love. It was the style he was most known for but he had quite a few very timing-ish plays too. And his harrass-oriented games were often godly as well (that game with the drops vs Best, jesus...)Thanks for the interview. Such a sick player. That old picture of him + the hard work thing actually made me think of Rock Lee (Naruto)
I was just about to point that out lol. Flash played methodically most of the time, but when he did play aggressive...it was pretty damn sick as well.
and yeah, it was like he had maphacks.
But yeah, I'm glad that Bogus/Innov. is doing well now  Everyone pretty much knew that he was pretty good in BW but sometimes the results didn't work out.
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Innovation is the anti-idra player :
he has 0 charism but he's very skilled
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On May 11 2013 06:54 RoranRock wrote:
Innovation is the anti-idra player :
he has 0 charism but he's very skilled
what is charismatic about idra?
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I was about to say.. does. not. compute.
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he talks himself soo bad... like he was just a random person who dont know what to play in TvT, his TvZ is weak and TvP is like n/c
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the first pic is amazing haha, innovation gogo
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The haircut in the first pic is just abysmal...
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So MVP has an "era". I guess that does make sense. It's really great watching SC2 grow up.
Can't wait until the Bonjwa arguments start up again, although with legacy of the void breaking up the next couple years we might have to wait a while.
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So who will be the hero and translate both articles in all its full glory?
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On May 11 2013 06:56 zyzq wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 06:54 RoranRock wrote:
Innovation is the anti-idra player :
he has 0 charism but he's very skilled what is charismatic about idra?
Both of you continue to move this shit out of this thread and into the other pit for posts regarding IdrA
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That first picture is just... Umm...
Best player in the world right now though, with Life.
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Great interview
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Unrelated, but how can a "first" post be the cause of a permanent ban and Idra's recent post was only a "temp" ban
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Bogus's been one of my favorite players in BW and my fav. terran player in Sc2 for a few months now. He's a beast and'll continue to do well!
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Ummmm does the first pic in the OP remind you of the villain from "No Country for Old Men"?
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Beast-mode mechanics make him a pleasure to watch. It's the little things that tickle my fancy the most <3.
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On May 11 2013 09:29 archflames wrote:
Unrelated, but how can a "first" post be the cause of a permanent ban and Idra's recent post was only a "temp" ban
because saying first is practically the same as saying nothing
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Wow, Artosis is finally hyping the right person lol
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On May 11 2013 04:48 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:46 quirinus wrote:On May 11 2013 04:35 larse wrote:On May 11 2013 04:34 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:On May 11 2013 04:26 blade55555 wrote:what he thinks flash has better tvz and yet innovation smashes life and 99% of other zergs O_o. Very modest he doesn't realize how imba he is Once he realizes how imba he is, he will go down It's hard to cope with that This is actually very true. Flash could more than cope with it, he was announcing his winning streaks ahead of time in BW. XD Nice interviews though. And there were times when people actually bought his humbleness, he toyed with people in interviews, also he used interviews to mindfuck his competetitors in OSL/MSL.
what? who? how?
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BoGus to win everything in 2013~
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The first pic is so terrible it's hilarious
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Oh my, the haircut on the first pic :D I wonder how pleased he would be seeing that getting displayed in such a public manner haha
Innovation is awesome though, his play atm is just the closest thing I have seen to perfect play in sc2, hope he wins gsl this season.
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This guy's skill is so out of the world good... i hope he stays no1 for a long time.
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first pick looks like rock lee
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Innovation is taking over where Mvp left off.
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Innovation is way too good. I am really hoping to see him take this season of gsl.
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Nice interview. I respect Innovation the most out of all the current Terrans and it's well deserved seeing as how goddamn good he is. Rooting for my Brotoss sOs to face him in the finals.
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pls take some time off practice to take care of ur skin or practice with a facial mask on or something.
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On May 11 2013 09:29 archflames wrote:
Unrelated, but how can a "first" post be the cause of a permanent ban and Idra's recent post was only a "temp" ban
Take your unrelated post and fuck off with it please, there is a thread with almost 200 pages in only a few days for such comments, link it there or bring it to the website feedback forum, I don't want to see anything regarding IdrA's ban unless its in a thread about IdrA, not Innovation and how bad ass he is.
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On May 11 2013 11:10 Hitch-22 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 09:29 archflames wrote:
Unrelated, but how can a "first" post be the cause of a permanent ban and Idra's recent post was only a "temp" ban Take your unrelated post and fuck off with it please, there is a thread with almost 200 pages in only a few days for such comments, link it there or bring it to the website feedback forum, I don't want to see anything regarding IdrA's ban unless its in a thread about IdrA, not Innovation and how bad ass he is.
Don't be too much of a dick. That's a bit extreme.
But Innovation is badass.
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hahaha the first young Innovation pic is really weird
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On May 11 2013 09:29 archflames wrote:
Unrelated, but how can a "first" post be the cause of a permanent ban and Idra's recent post was only a "temp" ban
It's not just that one post. It's his entire history of posts.
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Wow, such a humble guy. Can't imagine the "end-product-INnoVation" is going to be (when he himself thinks he is a "ready" and a "good" player), being so godlike already.
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Terran has been underwhelming for a very long time, any Terran that is dong above average in gsl is praised to a very high degree. It's a good thing considering Terran's position in wol. But in spl, Protoss is still dominating so we need more innovation and flash.
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Ok. So now innovation actually rises to the top. This korean media got some prediction right. Though I still feel innovation is still lacking in his mentality and a grand view of sc2.
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