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On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.
If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG. lol is this a post what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never) That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol. you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently. this whole situation is ridiculous why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same? because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream." it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole. but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago.
I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired.
Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat.
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i feel sorry for incontrol beeing thrown into the situation without knowing. But he handled it with great professionalism. Thumbs up Geoff.
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United States7483 Posts
On May 10 2013 10:25 RoboSnail wrote:
Very stupid move, the only reason i watched SC2 anymore was because of idra. EG will never be mentioned again.
Really? I watch because of Stephano, Jaedong, ThorZaIN, and Demuslim, and InControl and Machine are personalities I enjoy as well. IdrA wasn't even a part of the equation I ever really cared about.
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On May 10 2013 10:25 RoboSnail wrote:
Very stupid move, the only reason i watched SC2 anymore was because of idra. EG will never be mentioned again.
so many questions arise from one simple sentence
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Canada16217 Posts
On May 10 2013 10:27 Whitewing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:25 RoboSnail wrote:
Very stupid move, the only reason i watched SC2 anymore was because of idra. EG will never be mentioned again. Really? I watch because of Stephano, Jaedong, ThorZaIN, and Demuslim, and InControl and Machine are personalities I enjoy as well. IdrA wasn't even a part of the equation I ever really cared about.
some people only watch the game for drama which is disappointing.
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best of luck to greg! he's still been a great figure for sc2 despite his unsportsmanlike personality.
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On May 10 2013 10:25 Di3s3l wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:19 SCST wrote:On May 10 2013 10:18 zmansman17 wrote:On May 10 2013 10:16 jinorazi wrote:On May 10 2013 10:12 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:10 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:
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If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG. lol is this a post what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never) That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol. you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently. this whole situation is ridiculous EG is huge now I hope you realize that, they have more than just sc2. im obviously talking about their sc2 team i hope you realize that i for one respect and like eg a lot more now. a poster boy should be something like flash for kt, boxer for ace and skt, jaedong for oz. someone of talent, determination and positive image. if EG really thought idra was their poster boy for being an asshole...i think that would be a wrong approach for a professional starcraft team that competes What about DeMuslim? He consistently has over 10k viewers. He has a great personality and is genuinely a phenomenal guy. It's DeMuslim time! DeMuslim is the next big thing . . . I'm also addicted to his stream now. Best player-personality in the business. Guy is gonna be a champion in more ways than one. Demuslim over 10k viewers consistently? I must be blind or don't watch his stream during his "main" time. I've never seen a normal stream pull more viewers than Idra as consistently. I rarely seen Idra's under 5k at any given point during the day. I rarely see regular streams pulling more than 5k at peaks. Example right now Grubby has 3.2k and is highest for a normal SC2 stream. Events pull more I get it, but I think it's fair to say Idra has the best ratings/most viewers consistently for a normal stream with no shows, only ladder/practice. No?
Yup you aren't watching his stream then or paying attention. The statement is correct. I was watching him with 9.5k viewers earlier today, until the Idra news broke.
Edit: Grubby also regularly breaks 7k... not sure, maybe you're catching them way off peak?
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On May 10 2013 10:27 Whitewing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:25 RoboSnail wrote:
Very stupid move, the only reason i watched SC2 anymore was because of idra. EG will never be mentioned again. Really? I watch because of Stephano, Jaedong, ThorZaIN, and Demuslim, and InControl and Machine are personalities I enjoy as well. IdrA wasn't even a part of the equation I ever really cared about.
Yes really he made me laugh and got me excited for his games. Win or lose he was awesome.
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I've already said my piece about how I think this is the right move, but I think I have to say that informing incontrol of the move while he was live on state of the game was a pretty dick move by EG
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On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.
If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG. lol is this a post what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never) That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol. you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently. this whole situation is ridiculous why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same? because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream." it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole. but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago. I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired. Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat.
nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable
and just to expand a bit, yes idra is whiny, but so are plenty of other players. idra just vocalizes it more. its part of the character that a lot of people like and its honestly why eg is even a popular team at this point. without idra they [probably] would be nothing right now in sc2
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This means IdrA is going to be at TI3!
:p
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On May 10 2013 10:29 pieisamazing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.
If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG. lol is this a post what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never) That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol. you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently. this whole situation is ridiculous why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same? because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream." it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole. but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago. I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired. Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat. nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable
how long are you going to troll this thread saying nothing of import whatsoever?
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On May 10 2013 10:30 TheExile19 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:29 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.
If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG. lol is this a post what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never) That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol. you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently. this whole situation is ridiculous why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same? because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream." it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole. but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago. I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired. Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat. nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable how long are you going to troll this thread saying nothing of import whatsoever?
i noticed you still havent replied to my other comment that was a reply to you. i know you like to use big words and not really say anything, but try to dumb it down for me. ill wait
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The only thing surprising to me about this entire situation is that it took this long to reach this result. I always hoped that Greg would eventually overcome his mental hurdles and live up to his potential as a player, but it was not to be.
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On May 10 2013 10:29 pieisamazing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.
If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG. lol is this a post what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never) That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol. you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently. this whole situation is ridiculous why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same? because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream." it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole. but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago. I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired. Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat. nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable and just to expand a bit, yes idra is whiny, but so are plenty of other players. idra just vocalizes it more. its part of the character that a lot of people like and its honestly why eg is even a popular team at this point. without idra they [probably] would be nothing right now in sc2
Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
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On May 10 2013 10:33 RoboSnail wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:29 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.
If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG. lol is this a post what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never) That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol. you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently. this whole situation is ridiculous why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same? because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream." it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole. but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago. I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired. Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat. nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable and just to expand a bit, yes idra is whiny, but so are plenty of other players. idra just vocalizes it more. its part of the character that a lot of people like and its honestly why eg is even a popular team at this point. without idra they [probably] would be nothing right now in sc2 Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
see you later, then!
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You should probably stop watching if you just wanted drama and don't even like the game. I hear daytime TV has some good soaps.
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Canada16217 Posts
On May 10 2013 10:33 RoboSnail wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:29 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.
If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG. lol is this a post what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never) That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol. you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently. this whole situation is ridiculous why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same? because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream." it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole. but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago. I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired. Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat. nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable and just to expand a bit, yes idra is whiny, but so are plenty of other players. idra just vocalizes it more. its part of the character that a lot of people like and its honestly why eg is even a popular team at this point. without idra they [probably] would be nothing right now in sc2 Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.
get out then if you don't like the game, all people like you are just here for the drama you're all nothing more than cancer to the scene.
the community owes idra for shittalking them? you're hilarious.
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On May 10 2013 10:23 TheExile19 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:18 Sokrates wrote:On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.
If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG. lol is this a post what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never) That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol. you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently. this whole situation is ridiculous why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same? Because people like me wouldnt give a fuck about "social faux pas" in either esports or real sports. Because i prefer authenitc players over that ones that act with "political/social corret overlays". hi sokrates! as usual, it's vague generalizations with you. where is the line drawn on "authentic" players? would we be accepting of a white supremacist who habitually invoked racist sentiment, as long as he was authentic and up front about his beliefs? where does the greater society come in? more importantly, who cares when sponsors and team managers are the be-all and end-all in any sport, as agents of that greater society? I would also note, as I have before when you used this same tack with defending destiny, that your lust for non-PC actors are in the distinct, fairly juvenile minority. Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:21 rd wrote:
His attitude was immature and childish, and it made him immensely popular. What's your point? It's fairly indicative that everyone else who enjoys it is mature enough not to get overly offended by it and not take it like he just killed your parents. it's not a question of being offended, it's a question of whether we want this guy repping a progressing scene really, honestly don't think the majority of people respect idra for his play these days, it's just as an anti-PC crusader and rose-colored accomplishments. sadly, stephano might be able to get away with saying bullshit, but realistically idra doesn't produce the results necessary to have any wiggle room.
Funny that you apply double standards for the same subject. On one side so society is bad for labeling women as breeders on the other hand you bring out social standards to measure our behaviour. So you only bring in the "society" as a valid arguments when it suits your own personal belives. Sounds more "juvenile" than my point of view.
And to answer your question i prefer authentic douchebags over douchebags that act nice because someone told them it is a good thing but still being douchebags.
I prefer people that speak their minds over people that think "oh if i say that now i might get into trouble", this is toxic to every community.
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I had liked him for a while, thinking he was pretty knowledgeable, but for a while now he has become painful to watch. He wouldn't stop complaining about how awful his life is due to being a progamer.
Hopefully, he gets a taste of the "real-world" and can realize the great opportunity he had, and doesn't just remain bitter about everything.
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