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Shantastic
Profile Joined October 2011
United States435 Posts
May 10 2013 01:37 GMT
#1601
I have yet to watch the SotG VOD, but from what I've heard, EG really fucked up with making the announcement without first letting iNcontroL know, especially considering he is the public face of EG. The utmost of hearts to him for going through what I've heard he did and staying professional and collected.
"My grandpa could have proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, but he's also dead." -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 01:40:26
May 10 2013 01:37 GMT
#1602
On May 10 2013 10:35 Sokrates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:23 TheExile19 wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:18 Sokrates wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.



If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG.

lol is this a post

what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra

ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never)

That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times


i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra

he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol.

you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently.

this whole situation is ridiculous


why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same?


Because people like me wouldnt give a fuck about "social faux pas" in either esports or real sports. Because i prefer authenitc players over that ones that act with "political/social corret overlays".


hi sokrates!

as usual, it's vague generalizations with you. where is the line drawn on "authentic" players? would we be accepting of a white supremacist who habitually invoked racist sentiment, as long as he was authentic and up front about his beliefs? where does the greater society come in? more importantly, who cares when sponsors and team managers are the be-all and end-all in any sport, as agents of that greater society?

I would also note, as I have before when you used this same tack with defending destiny, that your lust for non-PC actors are in the distinct, fairly juvenile minority.

On May 10 2013 10:21 rd wrote:

His attitude was immature and childish, and it made him immensely popular. What's your point? It's fairly indicative that everyone else who enjoys it is mature enough not to get overly offended by it and not take it like he just killed your parents.


it's not a question of being offended, it's a question of whether we want this guy repping a progressing scene

really, honestly don't think the majority of people respect idra for his play these days, it's just as an anti-PC crusader and rose-colored accomplishments. sadly, stephano might be able to get away with saying bullshit, but realistically idra doesn't produce the results necessary to have any wiggle room.



Funny that you apply double standards for the same subject. On one side so society is bad for labeling women as breeders on the other hand you bring out social standards to measure our behaviour. So you only bring in the "society" as a valid arguments when it suits your own personal belives. Sounds more "juvenile" than my point of view.

And to answer your question i prefer authentic douchebags of douchebags that act nice because someone told them it is a good thing but still being douchebags.


a belief that women have a greater role in society than to be "breeders"? ...yeah. is this a serious argument? it's not a black and white portrait, society is less progressive in some aspects than others. I'm not continuing this OT tangent that you originated, either.

pieisamazing, your post that I didn't realize was in response to me is replete with reductive reasoning and is generally just ragingly offensive. try to come at it from a more calm standpoint and I might consider responding, but I'm not in the mood to break down a post of that size with that many subjective, obnoxious generalizations.
kevorski
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10 Posts
May 10 2013 01:37 GMT
#1603
wow some of these posts are just so funny....boy i'm glad i got to read a lot of them.....
proofy
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada283 Posts
May 10 2013 01:37 GMT
#1604
Great decision by EG.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
May 10 2013 01:37 GMT
#1605
this thread needs to be moderated i feel.

on topic: While i didnt like the way Idra treated people, i always respected his honesty about Starcraft2. Many Progamers feel this way, but it is a thing you do not verbalize in the industry.
Broodwar for life!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17892 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 01:38:32
May 10 2013 01:37 GMT
#1606
idra was told specifically by EG management that they needed to see better results to remain on staff.
specifically, idra had to do something in WCS of note.

rather than get dropped by EG due to poor results he decided to go out in a blaze of glory with guns firing in all directions.

Idra died with his boots on.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 10 2013 01:38 GMT
#1607
On May 10 2013 10:29 pieisamazing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.



If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG.

lol is this a post

what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra

ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never)

That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times


i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra

he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol.

you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently.

this whole situation is ridiculous


why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same?


because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth

people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream."

it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole.

but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago.



I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired.

Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat.


nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable

and just to expand a bit, yes idra is whiny, but so are plenty of other players. idra just vocalizes it more. its part of the character that a lot of people like and its honestly why eg is even a popular team at this point. without idra they [probably] would be nothing right now in sc2

Huh? If you think esports is such a stupid and meaningless thing why do you even care if Idra is in a team or not?.. Why do you even care about EG or the organization is esports is such shit?

Look at it this way, being in EG was Idra's job. In any job you get fired if you act like a spoiled child, particularly if you do so against the interests of your employer and in detriment of your own teammates and colleagues, so it's only logical he gets the axe. If anything, he should have been fired at least a year ago.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3837 Posts
May 10 2013 01:38 GMT
#1608
On May 10 2013 10:31 pieisamazing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:30 TheExile19 wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:29 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:
[quote]

If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG.

lol is this a post

what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra

ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never)

That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times


i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra

he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol.

you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently.

this whole situation is ridiculous


why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same?


because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth

people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream."

it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole.

but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago.



I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired.

Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat.


nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable


how long are you going to troll this thread saying nothing of import whatsoever?

i noticed you still havent replied to my other comment that was a reply to you. i know you like to use big words and not really say anything, but try to dumb it down for me. ill wait


nice baseless personal attack bro
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
LeopoldStotch
Profile Joined April 2011
United States158 Posts
May 10 2013 01:38 GMT
#1609
On May 10 2013 10:25 RoboSnail wrote:
Very stupid move, the only reason i watched SC2 anymore was because of idra. EG will never be mentioned again.


EG might not be mentioned by you, but they still have Stephano and Demuslim not to mention a ton of other talent.
L0L
Profile Joined August 2012
United States176 Posts
May 10 2013 01:39 GMT
#1610
IdrA will become new #1 in the world now. EG Curse is broken
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 10 2013 01:39 GMT
#1611
On May 10 2013 10:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
idra was told specifically by EG management that they needed to see better results to remain on staff.
specifically, idra had to do something in WCS of note.

rather than get dropped by EG due to poor results he decided to go out in a blaze of glory with guns firing in all directions.

Idra died with his boots on.


Probably should add "I think" or "I speculate" to the beginning of your post.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
XupinatoR
Profile Joined July 2011
Spain125 Posts
May 10 2013 01:40 GMT
#1612
On May 10 2013 10:33 RoboSnail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:29 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.



If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG.

lol is this a post

what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra

ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never)

That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times


i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra

he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol.

you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently.

this whole situation is ridiculous


why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same?


because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth

people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream."

it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole.

but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago.



I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired.

Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat.


nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable

and just to expand a bit, yes idra is whiny, but so are plenty of other players. idra just vocalizes it more. its part of the character that a lot of people like and its honestly why eg is even a popular team at this point. without idra they [probably] would be nothing right now in sc2


Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.


Wow, if you are here just for the drama you can go away, seriously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D41Re9_AqL0
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
May 10 2013 01:40 GMT
#1613
It's a good thing because at least now he can't be the exception to the rule. Players should act like professionals if they are being paid like professionals.
Eraste
Profile Joined April 2013
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 01:40:48
May 10 2013 01:40 GMT
#1614
Good.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 10 2013 01:40 GMT
#1615
On May 10 2013 10:30 Hs2u wrote:
This means IdrA is going to be at TI3!
:p


I'd like to see an analysis desk with Statsman Bruno, 2GD and Idra.
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anessie
Profile Joined August 2011
180 Posts
May 10 2013 01:40 GMT
#1616
Doesn't a lot of his popularity come from his special builds where he just leaves a game while being maxed?
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 01:44:52
May 10 2013 01:40 GMT
#1617
On May 10 2013 10:37 TheExile19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:35 Sokrates wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:23 TheExile19 wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:18 Sokrates wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.



If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG.

lol is this a post

what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra

ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never)

That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times


i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra

he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol.

you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently.

this whole situation is ridiculous


why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same?


Because people like me wouldnt give a fuck about "social faux pas" in either esports or real sports. Because i prefer authenitc players over that ones that act with "political/social corret overlays".


hi sokrates!

as usual, it's vague generalizations with you. where is the line drawn on "authentic" players? would we be accepting of a white supremacist who habitually invoked racist sentiment, as long as he was authentic and up front about his beliefs? where does the greater society come in? more importantly, who cares when sponsors and team managers are the be-all and end-all in any sport, as agents of that greater society?

I would also note, as I have before when you used this same tack with defending destiny, that your lust for non-PC actors are in the distinct, fairly juvenile minority.

On May 10 2013 10:21 rd wrote:

His attitude was immature and childish, and it made him immensely popular. What's your point? It's fairly indicative that everyone else who enjoys it is mature enough not to get overly offended by it and not take it like he just killed your parents.


it's not a question of being offended, it's a question of whether we want this guy repping a progressing scene

really, honestly don't think the majority of people respect idra for his play these days, it's just as an anti-PC crusader and rose-colored accomplishments. sadly, stephano might be able to get away with saying bullshit, but realistically idra doesn't produce the results necessary to have any wiggle room.



Funny that you apply double standards for the same subject. On one side so society is bad for labeling women as breeders on the other hand you bring out social standards to measure our behaviour. So you only bring in the "society" as a valid arguments when it suits your own personal belives. Sounds more "juvenile" than my point of view.

And to answer your question i prefer authentic douchebags of douchebags that act nice because someone told them it is a good thing but still being douchebags.


a belief that women have a greater role in society than to be "breeders"? ...yeah. is this a serious argument? it's not a black and white portrait, society is less progressive in some aspects than others. I'm not continuing this OT tangent that you originated, either.


Again, that is your own SUBJECTIVE view of society being progressive or reactionary. For me a community is not progressive if they bring out the pitchforks everytime someone says something they might get offended by. Yes this is an argument, because either you bring up society as an argument and agree with society on every point of view or you dont bringt it up at all.

Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
May 10 2013 01:41 GMT
#1618
On May 10 2013 10:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
idra was told specifically by EG management that they needed to see better results to remain on staff.
specifically, idra had to do something in WCS of note.

rather than get dropped by EG due to poor results he decided to go out in a blaze of glory with guns firing in all directions.

Idra died with his boots on.


What's your source for the results ultimatum?
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
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Last Edited: 2013-05-10 01:42:51
May 10 2013 01:41 GMT
#1619
On May 10 2013 10:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
idra was told specifically by EG management that they needed to see better results to remain on staff.
specifically, idra had to do something in WCS of note.

rather than get dropped by EG due to poor results he decided to go out in a blaze of glory with guns firing in all directions.

Idra died with his boots on.


I suppose that is a possible theory, altho shows you're just another fanboy.

I think Idra had a tantrum, per his usual... and thought the EG management team was bluffing
LeopoldStotch
Profile Joined April 2011
United States158 Posts
May 10 2013 01:41 GMT
#1620
On May 10 2013 10:33 RoboSnail wrote:
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On May 10 2013 10:29 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:
On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.



If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG.

lol is this a post

what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra

ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never)

That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times


i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra

he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol.

you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently.

this whole situation is ridiculous


why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same?


because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth

people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream."

it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole.

but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago.



I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired.

Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat.


nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable

and just to expand a bit, yes idra is whiny, but so are plenty of other players. idra just vocalizes it more. its part of the character that a lot of people like and its honestly why eg is even a popular team at this point. without idra they [probably] would be nothing right now in sc2


Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game.


Oh shit, when did Starcraft become professional wrestling?
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