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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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dvorakftw
681 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:40 Type|NarutO wrote: 'Shit happens' does not make the tournament valid. If anything, it makes it invalid. Your comparison is lacking, because it was the organizers fault that the tournament was made void, not the players fault. Letting HyuN and a hacker play even moreso than not letting Chinese participate. You can stand your point, but your 'shit happens' just shows how clueless you are. Comm has no responsibility for registering before 512 other people did. HyuN has no responsibility for knowing if he was eligible. The hacker has no responsibility to not be scum. Got it. | ||
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fleeze
Germany895 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:49 syllogism wrote: Dvorakftw is no troll, he is one of the few rational posters in the thread rofl, he is as much a troll as YOU are. just look at the other topics  On April 24 2013 16:49 dvorakftw wrote: Comm has no responsibility for registering before 512 other people did. HyuN has no responsibility for knowing if he was eligible. The hacker has no responsibility to not be scum. Got it. you seem to not even know what a FAIR competition is. and why it's on the organisation running the tournament to ensure it's integrity. | ||
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PLU_Chinese
China4 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:46 fleeze wrote: can you fucking trolls please stop shitting this excellent post with irrelevant bullshit? im looking at you Kim Hyuna, PLU_Chinese and dvorakftw hey you are not even Chinese how do you know what I said is bullshit? I am Chinese, you can google "IG.edison 棒子 " to see what happen and whether it is truth? | ||
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fleeze
Germany895 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:53 PLU_Chinese wrote: hey you are not even Chinese how do you know what I said is bullshit? I am Chinese, you can google "IG.edison 棒子 " to see what happen and whether it is truth? from your posts: you seem to have some agenda against IG. this doesn't belong here. take it somewhere else. this topic deserves better. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
Let's stop talking about whether Chinese are good at English or not. China needs a better care from Blizzard, they have potential to get at least few world-class players. But they have one of the harshest environment to make that push. And Blizzard is not making it any easier. In BW they managed to grow the best foreign scene, they had 2 succesful (relatively to everyone non-korea) players (LX, PJ). I don't need to remember who knocked out Savior from WCG right? We are talking here about achievements that stand above most in history of foreign BW. Yet its so annoying to see, that China can't get the recognition they deserve (unless its DOTA/WC3). | ||
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Kim Hyuna
Korea (South)264 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:47 PLU_Chinese wrote: Hey this Korean friend. Do you know what IG team leader (IG.EdIsOn) said in his blog? He feel unfair why Korean get chance to attend WCS NA, and he call Korean as "棒子"， You can google it whether this is truth and google what's "棒子" mean in Chinese. This is the education level of Chinese esport pro gamer . As a Chinese , I apologize what he did and what he said. I feel shamed on him. That's not esport spirit. I know what it means. 棒子 or stick is what the Chinese love to call on Korean. It has long history on why such words were used. | ||
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PLU_Chinese
China4 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:54 fleeze wrote: from your posts: you seem to have some agenda against IG. this doesn't belong here. take it somewhere else. this topic deserves better. from your posts: you seem to have some agenda against me. this doesn't belong here. take it somewhere else. this topic deserves better BTW, I am just telling the truth. You can not just pick up the good thing or the thing you like to hear and avoid the truth. go google it , you will get the whole truth User was banned for this post. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:49 dvorakftw wrote: Comm has no responsibility for registering before 512 other people did. HyuN has no responsibility for knowing if he was eligible. The hacker has no responsibility to not be scum. Got it. The hacker has responsibility for himself. That doesn't mean the organization that is actually running the event can sit back and let him register and participate in the tournament. Do you see a known professional that cheats being allowed in another sort of tournament anywhere? Because I don't. HyuN first of all probably should be aware that he couldn't participate, but thats a small fault on his side compared to what it leads when MLG makes such a fault. When you call out Comm on registering after 512, I'll name Macsed, Jim and XY that did well before and also checked - in. They got not put into the grid. Counterargument on your side? I don't see any. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Kim Hyuna
Korea (South)264 Posts
http://bbs.neotv.cn/thread-1114827-1-1.html I've no hates against chinese or team iG, just from personal pov. 成韩国人为“棒子”，这种种族主义行为实在无法忍受。 this type of answer from a well respected team is unbearable. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:59 syllogism wrote: Wouldn't it make more sense for blizzard to make WCS GSL have online qualifiers? Then chinese players (and australian) can have good latency and they don't have to fly to the other side of the world if they qualify. It doesn't seem to make sense for WCS NA to be the tournament that has to invite the best players of every region. Neither NA nor EU do have infrastructure and system to host it in a way Korea does. Blizzards goal is working towards that so the qualifiers can be mainly played offline. Why would you want to change the Korean system, because I can guarantee you, no one outside of Korea would actually want to choose Korea as their region. While you might be right, that there still should be the option to do so, I think working towards the initial goal is the better plan. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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svi
405 Posts
They range from how the Chinese are cowards for not flying to Korea and playing in the Code B qualifiers there (lol...), to how China is a corrupt country (jesus christ, what does this have to do with SC2)? Honestly if they're smart, they should just retire. If they have no chance of getting into WCS, and if their national tournaments are few in number, then there really isn't any point in playing or whining in blogs for that matter. | ||
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dvorakftw
681 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:43 Skiblet wrote: @dvorakftw You're a bloody fool. Honestly saddens me that we have people like this on TL. Well, we can't all be intelligent thoughtful posters like you. You wouldn't be saying 'shit happens' if you were in their shoes. You want to bet? Here, I'll share something with everyone here. You of course have no way to know this is true, but it is and even if it weren't I think it would still prove the point. One day my Dad comes to school and pulls me out of 5th grade to tell me my Mom has been diagnosed with cancer and it's okay to cry. I don't cry because I'm a dumb kid with no experience so "cancer" doesn't truly mean anything to me other than it must be a bad thing or my Dad wouldn't have said that. My Mom does years of chemo, has more bad days than good, and dies a few years later. Shit. Happens. If I could write a list of a hundred billion trillion things wrong in this world I still would be nowhere near ready to add the problems of this WCS. How about a little sympathy? My sympathy drawfs your perspective by magnitudes. Look how many tournaments the Chinese players actually HAVE participated in and had the opportunity to participate in? There is no room for a 'whoops better luck next time' in the fucking WCS. Really? Next season already cancelled? Blizzard decided to stop wasting their money on eSports for people who bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch? The BIGGEST Starcraft 2 organized tournament/league whatever, EVER! How can you make the argument 'shit happens' when a whole bunch of PROFESSIONAL SC2 players can not even ATTEMPT to qualify for the PREMIER STARCRAFT 2 TOURNAMENT OF THE WHOLE WORLD??? WTF ARE YOU EVEN SERIOUS RIGHT NOW? LOL. my god, you really are an idiot. No sir, there is no 'shit happens' when it comes to a situation like this, and you'd be a fool to believe that. Hallelujah I have seen the light! The insults and gratuitous use of CAPITALIZATION has convinced me and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter | ||
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:01 Kim Hyuna wrote: If anyone is interested on what iG.Edison said on WCS qualifier and how he labelled the Korean. http://bbs.neotv.cn/thread-1114827-1-1.html I've no hates against chinese or team iG, just from personal pov. 成韩国人为“棒子”，这种种族主义行为实在无法忍受。 this type of answer from a well respected team is unbearable. Finnally got you,成，称~~u must be using pinyin input..don't protented to be Korean anymore, you are chinese. | ||
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fleeze
Germany895 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:09 dvorakftw wrote: Well, we can't all be intelligent thoughtful posters like you. You want to bet? Here, I'll share something with everyone here. You of course have no way to know this is true, but it is and even if it weren't I think it would still prove the point. One day my Dad comes to school and pulls me out of 5th grade to tell me my Mom has been diagnosed with cancer and it's okay to cry. I don't cry because I'm a dumb kid with no experience so "cancer" doesn't truly mean anything to me other than it must be a bad thing or my Dad wouldn't have said that. My Mom does years of chemo, has more bad days than good, and dies a few years later. Shit. Happens. If I could write a list of a hundred billion trillion things wrong in this world I still would be nowhere near ready to add the problems of this WCS. My sympathy drawfs your perspective by magnitudes. Really? Next season already cancelled? Blizzard decided to stop wasting their money on eSports for people who bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch? Hallelujah I have seen the light! The insults and gratuitous use of CAPITALIZATION has convinced me and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter so all you are basically saying is: there is a problem, but let's just ignore it and move on. i know some of these chinese pro gamers since their WC3 days and it saddens me that they have no choice but to quit pro gaming because an organisation fails at hosting a simple, fair online tournament. | ||
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Kim Hyuna
Korea (South)264 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:14 jalen wrote: Finnally got you,成，称~~u must be using pinyin input..don't protented to be Korean anymore, you are chinese. I think there's something call google translate and something call copy and paste. Keep your trolling else where. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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fleeze
Germany895 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:20 syllogism wrote: At least MLG tried, where is the outrage at WCS GSL? Perhaps it would be best for MLG to stick to offline qualifiers from now on at least they tried? wtf... every western e-sports organisation could host a better qualifier than the mess MLG did. Code A qualifiers have been like this since the start of sc2. there is NO need to change it. stop shifting blame to WCS KR.... it's useless. | ||
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