State of Chinese SC2 - Page 9

On April 24 2013 15:33 namste wrote:
Tbh, China gets the very little out of the global play. Lagging to every direction, although it's not Blizzard's fault, rather the chinese goverment's fault.

On April 24 2013 15:29 PLU_CN wrote:

Why Chinese pro gamer wanna attend WCS NA? Because there is no any piece of chance to win in WCS KR , even China has better network connection to KR instead of NA. Chinese pro team beg WCS NA a ticket because their own competition level is low, then why WCS NA wanna give you a green enter to WCS NA like EG?

On April 24 2013 15:20 Blargh wrote:
I don't think was a huge deal and a DQ was a bit extreme considering the circumstances.

On April 24 2013 15:36 dvorakftw wrote:

Which is a fine example of the difference between imagining yourself as an admin of a tournament among friendly, reasonable, happy-go-lucky people who all think like you and agree with you and actually running a business involving self-interested people competing for money and prizes. Lawyers love people who believe they can get by with gentlemen's agreements and hodge podge decision making.

On April 24 2013 15:32 Type|NarutO wrote:


Chinese players want to participate in WCS: NA, because they have no option in competing in Korea. First of all, you would have to be in Korea and secondly, even some (lots) Koreans don't want to compete in Korea and you really blame Chinese for taking their chance in WCS NA?

On April 24 2013 15:34 canikizu wrote:

You have to be physically available to play in Korea, as in you have to be at the studio and sit in the booth...

No. What you reckon is reasonable in some way. But What I see in China and What I know from Chinese pro team is : even if they have chance to attend WCS KR, they are not willing to go. Because they can't beat Korean, so who wanna waste the flight fee, house leasing fee to attend a match you don't have any chance to win? Any e-sport team put benefit on the first place. that's the truth we can not deny.

But most of Chinese ( fans and pro gamer) think Chinese e-sport level is the same or higher than western country. That's the truth how they think and why they would like to attend WCS NA.

On April 24 2013 15:40 PLU_CN wrote:



No. What you reckon is reasonable in some way. But What I see in China and What I know from Chinese pro team is : even if they have chance to attend WCS KR, they are not willing to go. Because they can't beat Korean, so who wanna waste the flight fee, house leasing fee to attend a match you don't have any chance to win? Any e-sport team put benefit on the first place. that's the truth we can not deny.

But most of Chinese ( fans and pro gamer) think Chinese e-sport level is the same or higher than western country. That's the truth how they think and why they would like to attend WCS NA.

On April 24 2013 15:30 Kim Hyuna wrote:


Some people just don't learn to read. And insist his education is HIGHER than yours. Rofl. But i can't blame him. He's an aussie you see?

CN is one of the fastest moving country in terms of technology, population, manufacturing and etc.

And yet, corruption is one of the highest too. If he does read international news, the newly elected president of china already promised to wipe off the name of corruption out from China.

Seriously, who's poorer in education now? Read some news kids.

Let me give your some good read's about China corruption.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/22/world/asia/china-expands-crackdown-on-anticorruption-activists.html?_r=0

http://www.fcpablog.com/blog/2013/4/19/china-corruption-blotter-april-19-2013.html

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/china/130423/hong-kong-reject-aid-china-sichuan-earthquake

See? With the recent Sichuan quake, HK refuses to aid them due to corruption surrounding China. It just show how heavily corrupted china are.

On April 24 2013 15:42 PLU_CN wrote:



As what I said



Even if they are available to attend KR, they won't choose KR region.

On April 24 2013 15:36 dvorakftw wrote:

Which is a fine example of the difference between imagining yourself as an admin of a tournament among friendly, reasonable, happy-go-lucky people who all think like you and agree with you and actually running a business involving self-interested people competing for money and prizes. Lawyers love people who believe they can get by with gentlemen's agreements and hodge podge decision making.

On April 24 2013 15:46 Type|NarutO wrote:


And thats your reason to bash Chinese? What about MVP, MV, HyuN, TaeJa ... or all the other Koreans and/or people that switched region? They are progamers and first of all need to win. They will choose the region which is most likely to give them winnings more over a possible chance of fame.

Every reasonable progamer would decide that way.

On April 24 2013 15:29 Type|NarutO wrote:
dvorakftw, if you cannot attack any point within my argument, leave it. I am no poster that puts neither time nor effort in their posts. I am long enough around here to post constructive criticism and reasonable argumentation. If you could explain to my, how the mistakes that were made are in no way a reason to render the qualifier void, please enlighten me.

Right now, you are attacking me, but not my statements.

On April 24 2013 15:34 Kim Hyuna wrote:


China still living in a mid-communist era.

On April 24 2013 15:51 jalen wrote:


LOL, you really take a lot of attention to Chinese government. What we are arguing is wiki as reference, I knew corruption in China is petty bad. Generally speaking, western media always report negative part of China, and as Chinese living in the western country, you will laugh when you saw the news talking about Chinese story. It is media war, and you need read both side and decide which one is the truth. And you are right about Corruption, and i am so surprise you knew "the newly elected president of china already promised to wipe off the name of corruption out from China". It a long way to go.

For academic view，only the NYT one you listed can be seen as reference. LOL, i am trolling.

On April 24 2013 15:54 Shinta) wrote:

xiaOt would be disappointed in your derogatory outlook on Chinese personality. xiaOt is still the manager of iG right? I remember specifically, when he was still a player, him saying that he could easily destroy any Korean player.

I'm sure there are Korean's that know they can beat top Koreans. The thing is, Korea is just harder. Not even top Koreans want to play in Korea if they don't have to. Anyone with opportunity would, and do, go to NA.

Don't speak about Chinese like they are scum plz.

On April 24 2013 15:53 PLU_CN wrote:



What I wanna explain is that IG team deserve this. Their team leader can not read English well , so their team member miss the chance to join the MLG party. But IG team leader wanna make excuse to MLG BOSS. It is ridiculous. They put EG for example, But EG's match history is way better than Chinese Team. So EG deserve to get the green ticket to attend WCS NA instead of IG. Look at COMM, who get out of WCS GuangZhou in the first round and use fake account to attend this year's WCS NA. Who is willing to give a free ticket to this kinda of team and player? I feel shamed on it.

On April 24 2013 15:58 PLU_CN wrote:


haha . About XiaoT. Most of Chinese reckon he is a joke. He said he will attend GSL and beat Korean, then this guy disappear immediately. If you go to any Chinese SC forum mention XiaoT, they will tell this story, XiaoT is a joke.

IG is the best team in China, but IG doesn't have good reputation indeed.

On April 24 2013 15:56 Kim Hyuna wrote:


What's wrong with paying attention to Chinese news/government? It's an knowledge to know what is going on around us. Wiki references are based on true source (most of the time).