EPTOn April 24 2013 16:04 jalen wrote:
I suddenly feel that you are not korean at all
I suddenly feel that you are not korean at all
Please explain.
Not all Korean are tied to hangul langauge and not English.
We have plenty of educated Koreans you see?
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Kim Hyuna
Korea (South)264 Posts
Please explain. Not all Korean are tied to hangul langauge and not English. We have plenty of educated Koreans you see? | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On April 24 2013 15:55 dvorakftw wrote: I'd sooner give consideration to something like "Marines should cost 500 minerals and be 6 supply each" than the idea the whole qualifier is void. Shit happens. Unfortunately for MLG few if any want to defend them (including myself) and several groups with their own agendas have reason to rabble rouse. Sundance already tweeted that they are working to address some of the problems but he was absolutely right when he said he could give away $5 and end up the asshole for not giving $10. It's much more fun to make demands and threats than to simply ask questions and voice displeasure. Why is it not void in your opinion? | ||
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Skiblet
South Africa206 Posts
These Chinese pro players put a portion of their lives just into Starcraft, dedicated themselves to getting good so they can compete. They are clearly good enough to have qualified for the premier league, if enough of them were given the chance (or at least not disqualified in the final round). Anyone who thinks other than this is just completely and utterly insensitive. I'm not sure any of you know what its actually like in China, or trying to be a pro Chinese SC2 player. MLG. Fix your shit, give these guys another chance like they RIGHTFULLY deserve. | ||
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ETisME
12908 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:06 Kim Hyuna wrote: Please explain. Not all Korean are tied to hangul langauge and not English. We have plenty of educated Koreans you see? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_South_Korea#English_education "According to a 2003 survey conducted by the Hong Kong-based Political and Economic Risk Consultancy, despite being one of the countries in Asia that spends the most money on English-language education, South Korea ranks the lowest among 12 Asian countries in English ability." why he can't generalise about koreans when you generalise about chinese? | ||
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dvorakftw
681 Posts
On April 24 2013 15:52 Blargh wrote: They have failed to enforce other rules, on MANY occasions simply because they were not a big deal. It isn't totally black and white in this scenario. It's gray. Mistakes happen, but when you hit someone's parked car, you have to pay for the damages you have done. See, the problem here is you go from gray to black and white. Comm and MLG and Blizzard all have to deal with many facts of the real world that prevent an easy ideal situation. You seem to start with the idea that Comm should have a chance to play and work the decision backwards from there. 'Hey it's gray so why not do what I prefer?' I start from the position that if I were in charge of MLG/Blizzard/the World that any number of things would be done differently but the initial rule of not sharing info/accounts is one of if not the most important rules for an online tournament and that plus knowing there are consequences and potential legal issues involved with making exceptions means I say good luck to Comm (and everyone else who has grief in this event) but it's not anything worthy of pitchforks. And work on your analogies. The 'game decision after disconnect' I snipped didn't illustrate your point and I can come up with hypotheticals where I wouldn't be responsible for damage to someone else's parked car (busting a windshield to rescue a baby inside on a hot day, car is parked next to a hydrant and there's a fire, it's blocking the road for an ambulance, etc.) | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
On April 24 2013 15:56 jalen wrote: That's not true. China is currently capitalist in economy, and social democracy in politics. Dude please quit the offtopic. Your post has little relevance to matters discussed and is flamebaiting. Despite many wrongdoings and fuckups during the NA qualifier i feel like declaring the qualifier void rather than living with its biased outcome is much inferioir option. Imagine the outcry, imagine how people how already qualified would feel. No its a bad option. | ||
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:13 ETisME wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_South_Korea#English_education "According to a 2003 survey conducted by the Hong Kong-based Political and Economic Risk Consultancy, despite being one of the countries in Asia that spends the most money on English-language education, South Korea ranks the lowest among 12 Asian countries in English ability." why he can't generalise about koreans when you generalise about chinese? LOL， when he said chinese sc2 is a joke, i suddenly have a feeling , he must be someone from china. The koreans what i know are polite and niceful. | ||
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:17 Silvanel wrote: Dude please quit the offtopic. Your post has little relevance to matters discussed and is flamebaiting. Despite many wrongdoings and fuckups during the NA qualifier i feel like declaring the qualifier void rather than living with its biased outcome is much inferioir option. Imagine the outcry, imagine how people how already qualified would feel. No its a bad option. You should quote Kim, not me. He start it. | ||
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jackrlong
United States49 Posts
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Kim Hyuna
Korea (South)264 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:13 ETisME wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_South_Korea#English_education "According to a 2003 survey conducted by the Hong Kong-based Political and Economic Risk Consultancy, despite being one of the countries in Asia that spends the most money on English-language education, South Korea ranks the lowest among 12 Asian countries in English ability." why he can't generalise about koreans when you generalise about chinese? Dude, we are talking about professionalism. iG is a professional gaming team. Such lapse shouldn't even happen. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On April 24 2013 06:04 Nordom wrote: A part from not being among the 24 invited players, I don't understand what is anti-chinese about a first come first serve 512 player bracket? I agree that either the bracket should be bigger or have more of them, but I assume the chinese players had the same opportunity as anyone else to register as quick as possible or am I missing something? Except that it was not entirely first come, first serve. They first went through the list of sign ups and allowed several players they perceive as professional gamers into that list. | ||
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hkese
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dvorakftw
681 Posts
Do I need to explain "Shit happens" in detail? Kim Jong Un could blow up South Korea's internet connection resulting in actual Americans qualifying for WCS Americas and that would suck for the Koreans and I'd be all for arrangements to give them another chance but it would be idiotic to just call a do over and pretend the first never happened. At worst, Comm and comrades have to do a better job getting registered for next season. | ||
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PLU_Chinese
China4 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:18 jalen wrote: LOL， when he said chinese sc2 is a joke, i suddenly have a feeling , he must be someone from china. The koreans what i know are polite and niceful. hey, you can not deny the people have the different opinion. Some Chinese like hiding the truth, some is not. I like the people who has courage to face the truth. Look through the IG team. The pro gamer in China doesn't have good education include English education. That's why that event happen last week. IG team leader's own fault lead all the team member miss the chance to attend WCS NA. Except IG team leader, None of IG pro gamer can speak any English except "hello" "GG HF GL" "go". Chinese esport member need improve their own quality and education level, instead of complaining the gov doesn't support the eSport. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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Kim Hyuna
Korea (South)264 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:37 PLU_Chinese wrote: hey, you can not deny the people have the different opinion. Some Chinese like hiding the truth, some is not. I like the people who has courage to face the truth. Look through the IG team. The pro gamer in China doesn't have good education include English education. That's why that event happen last week. IG team leader's own fault lead all the team member miss the chance to attend WCS NA. Except IG team leader, all of IG pro gamer can not speak any English. What they know is only "hello" "GG HF GL" "go". Chinese esport member need improve their own quality and education level, instead of complaining the gov doesn't support the eSport. Quote for truth. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On April 24 2013 16:33 dvorakftw wrote: Do I need to explain "Shit happens" in detail? Kim Jong Un could blow up South Korea's internet connection resulting in actual Americans qualifying for WCS Americas and that would suck for the Koreans and I'd be all for arrangements to give them another chance but it would be idiotic to just call a do over and pretend the first never happened. At worst, Comm and comrades have to do a better job getting registered for next season. 'Shit happens' does not make the tournament valid. If anything, it makes it invalid. Your comparison is lacking, because it was the organizers fault that the tournament was made void, not the players fault. Letting HyuN and a hacker play even moreso than not letting Chinese participate. You can stand your point, but your 'shit happens' just shows how clueless you are. | ||
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Skiblet
South Africa206 Posts
You're a bloody fool. Honestly saddens me that we have people like this on TL. You wouldn't be saying 'shit happens' if you were in their shoes. How about a little sympathy? Look how many tournaments the Chinese players actually HAVE participated in and had the opportunity to participate in? There is no room for a 'whoops better luck next time' in the fucking WCS. The BIGGEST Starcraft 2 organized tournament/league whatever, EVER! How can you make the argument 'shit happens' when a whole bunch of PROFESSIONAL SC2 players can not even ATTEMPT to qualify for the PREMIER STARCRAFT 2 TOURNAMENT OF THE WHOLE WORLD??? WTF ARE YOU EVEN SERIOUS RIGHT NOW? LOL. my god, you really are an idiot. No sir, there is no 'shit happens' when it comes to a situation like this, and you'd be a fool to believe that. | ||
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fleeze
Germany895 Posts
im looking at you Kim Hyuna, PLU_Chinese and dvorakftw | ||
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PLU_Chinese
China4 Posts
Hey this Korean friend. Do you know what IG team leader (IG.EdIsOn) said in his blog? He feel unfair why Korean get chance to attend WCS NA, and he call Korean as "棒子"， You can google it whether this is truth and google what's "棒子" mean in Chinese. This is the education level of Chinese esport pro gamer . As a Chinese , I apologize what he did and what he said. I feel shamed on him. That's not esport spirit. | ||
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