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Liamyan
Profile Joined April 2013
United States12 Posts
April 22 2013 00:21 GMT
#561
On April 22 2013 09:14 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:11 Liamyan wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 Judicator wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:52 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:50 Elairec wrote:
Didn't Comm take over his teammates account AFTER first round had been played? If you can't understand why that would DQ him and his friend, I am sorry.

Agreed, I don't understand why people are expecting MLG to let that slide. There is a reason that rule is in place, like preventing one player from ghosting at 3 or 4 people to give several shots at qualifying.


Lol see now you are just spreading lies. Anything to defend MLG I guess. If you don't hold tourneys accountable for their mistakes, then they will never improve. If everyone turned a blind eye to things like you, nothing would ever progress. Mindless fanboyism does nothing and is a negative.

Why would you let anyone sign up twice for the qualifier? Why would you ever do that? Why would you EVER let a player play under someone else account, ever?


Because MLG is terrible at TO-ing? Like really, its one thing to let someone sign up and play a few rounds, it's another to let it go for that long.


How the FUCK are they supposed to know who is using the PC? HE IS IN CHINA!!!!!! MLG's job is to enforce the rules, which he broke. I don't are how good he is, he broke the rules to get into the event. He signed up twice, which is against the rules for a reason.

He just signed once, his apprentice give him his account as soon as knew him could not attend with his own account.So tell me what to do if u r a player and u r in comm's situation.

How is that not the same thing? If he has 4 apprentices sign up and then uses their accounts to make sure he gets a really good spot in the bracket, is that ok too? I mean, he is only using one account and the other ones are being used too.

If I am Comm, I don't use someone else's account because its a live event at the end and people are going to notice I am a different person when that happens.

Do u really he want to use his apprentice's account? There is a precondition that his account is not in the 512 players, and SC2 is what he used for living right now, am i right? Comm need this chance to let world know who he is but not in this way
Goolpsy
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark301 Posts
April 22 2013 00:25 GMT
#562
On April 22 2013 09:14 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:11 Liamyan wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 Judicator wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:52 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:50 Elairec wrote:
Didn't Comm take over his teammates account AFTER first round had been played? If you can't understand why that would DQ him and his friend, I am sorry.

Agreed, I don't understand why people are expecting MLG to let that slide. There is a reason that rule is in place, like preventing one player from ghosting at 3 or 4 people to give several shots at qualifying.


Lol see now you are just spreading lies. Anything to defend MLG I guess. If you don't hold tourneys accountable for their mistakes, then they will never improve. If everyone turned a blind eye to things like you, nothing would ever progress. Mindless fanboyism does nothing and is a negative.

Why would you let anyone sign up twice for the qualifier? Why would you ever do that? Why would you EVER let a player play under someone else account, ever?


Because MLG is terrible at TO-ing? Like really, its one thing to let someone sign up and play a few rounds, it's another to let it go for that long.


How the FUCK are they supposed to know who is using the PC? HE IS IN CHINA!!!!!! MLG's job is to enforce the rules, which he broke. I don't are how good he is, he broke the rules to get into the event. He signed up twice, which is against the rules for a reason.

He just signed once, his apprentice give him his account as soon as knew him could not attend with his own account.So tell me what to do if u r a player and u r in comm's situation.

How is that not the same thing? If he has 4 apprentices sign up and then uses their accounts to make sure he gets a really good spot in the bracket, is that ok too? I mean, he is only using one account and the other ones are being used too.

If I am Comm, I don't use someone else's account because its a live event at the end and people are going to notice I am a different person when that happens.


You mean deliberately trying to fool the system, the same as

Checkin in time, ask admins if you're good to play; Get an O.K
Then after several more inqueries to the admins, they tell you, you're unfortunately out.
THEN a samaritan generously let you play. The confusion about the ID 'might' have kept him anonymous for an hour.

He wasn't fooling anyone. AND he was more so a rightful contender than any of the 64 locked seeds, probably moreso that any of the directly invited 'Code S' contestents.

Liamyan
Profile Joined April 2013
United States12 Posts
April 22 2013 00:26 GMT
#563
Crank posted his match results on twiter,is that against the rules? why Crank is still not being DQed?
Beakyboo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States485 Posts
April 22 2013 00:26 GMT
#564
On April 22 2013 09:17 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:15 Beakyboo wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 Judicator wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:52 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:50 Elairec wrote:
Didn't Comm take over his teammates account AFTER first round had been played? If you can't understand why that would DQ him and his friend, I am sorry.

Agreed, I don't understand why people are expecting MLG to let that slide. There is a reason that rule is in place, like preventing one player from ghosting at 3 or 4 people to give several shots at qualifying.


Lol see now you are just spreading lies. Anything to defend MLG I guess. If you don't hold tourneys accountable for their mistakes, then they will never improve. If everyone turned a blind eye to things like you, nothing would ever progress. Mindless fanboyism does nothing and is a negative.

Why would you let anyone sign up twice for the qualifier? Why would you ever do that? Why would you EVER let a player play under someone else account, ever?


Because MLG is terrible at TO-ing? Like really, its one thing to let someone sign up and play a few rounds, it's another to let it go for that long.


How the FUCK are they supposed to know who is using the PC? HE IS IN CHINA!!!!!! MLG's job is to enforce the rules, which he broke. I don't are how good he is, he broke the rules to get into the event. He signed up twice, which is against the rules for a reason.

Maybe, but really you shouldn't have to sign up twice to get into the event in the first place and that is yet another failure of MLG's that they're now drawing further attention to.

This guy won WCS china. He deserves to be able to play here. It's BS that a high caliber player like this was excluded in the first place just because of MLG's incompetency.

MLG needs to just let this one slide. Let him play. No one's going to hold that against them.

If he won WSC China, his team should have made sure he would be in the qualifier by contacting MLG the instant was not one of the first 512 people to sign up. But they didn't read the rules and didn't understand the some of their players did not make the cut off time. And when they were told they couldn't play, Comm tried to play under someone elses account, which got him DQ because that is against the rules.

Well it was my understanding that there was some miscommunication and they believed they did confirm that their players had made it into the tournament.

Even still, it's obvious why MLG has these rules in place, but their intentions were pretty honest. It's not like they were abusing by signing up for extra spots to get in. The reality is that all the chinese players should have been able to compete. They got screwed out of that and tried to give what spots they got to the deserving players. Now MLG's screwing them out of that too. I don't see how anyone couldn't sympathize with how frustrating that has got to be.

MLG can still change this and they really should.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 22 2013 00:28 GMT
#565
On April 22 2013 09:26 Liamyan wrote:
Crank posted his match results on twiter,is that against the rules? why Crank is still not being DQed?

Are you the same guy who made that thread earlier that got closed? I mean, I love all the accounts with under 10 posts coming to the defense of Comm. Its amazing all these folks from the US coming to defend him, even if their English isn't that great.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 22 2013 00:31 GMT
#566
On April 22 2013 09:26 Beakyboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:17 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:15 Beakyboo wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 Judicator wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:52 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:50 Elairec wrote:
Didn't Comm take over his teammates account AFTER first round had been played? If you can't understand why that would DQ him and his friend, I am sorry.

Agreed, I don't understand why people are expecting MLG to let that slide. There is a reason that rule is in place, like preventing one player from ghosting at 3 or 4 people to give several shots at qualifying.


Lol see now you are just spreading lies. Anything to defend MLG I guess. If you don't hold tourneys accountable for their mistakes, then they will never improve. If everyone turned a blind eye to things like you, nothing would ever progress. Mindless fanboyism does nothing and is a negative.

Why would you let anyone sign up twice for the qualifier? Why would you ever do that? Why would you EVER let a player play under someone else account, ever?


Because MLG is terrible at TO-ing? Like really, its one thing to let someone sign up and play a few rounds, it's another to let it go for that long.


How the FUCK are they supposed to know who is using the PC? HE IS IN CHINA!!!!!! MLG's job is to enforce the rules, which he broke. I don't are how good he is, he broke the rules to get into the event. He signed up twice, which is against the rules for a reason.

Maybe, but really you shouldn't have to sign up twice to get into the event in the first place and that is yet another failure of MLG's that they're now drawing further attention to.

This guy won WCS china. He deserves to be able to play here. It's BS that a high caliber player like this was excluded in the first place just because of MLG's incompetency.

MLG needs to just let this one slide. Let him play. No one's going to hold that against them.

If he won WSC China, his team should have made sure he would be in the qualifier by contacting MLG the instant was not one of the first 512 people to sign up. But they didn't read the rules and didn't understand the some of their players did not make the cut off time. And when they were told they couldn't play, Comm tried to play under someone elses account, which got him DQ because that is against the rules.

Well it was my understanding that there was some miscommunication and they believed they did confirm that their players had made it into the tournament.

Even still, it's obvious why MLG has these rules in place, but their intentions were pretty honest. It's not like they were abusing by signing up for extra spots to get in. The reality is that all the chinese players should have been able to compete. They got screwed out of that and tried to give what spots they got to the deserving players. Now MLG's screwing them out of that too. I don't see how anyone couldn't sympathize with how frustrating that has got to be.

MLG can still change this and they really should.

I really don't think posting a complaint on reddit that you didn't red the rules correctly and then trying to use someone else's account should be rewarded. The team did not read the rules and registered some of their players late. There is a warning on the MLG site about people who signed up after 512 in huge, red letters. But they must have missed it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
jackrlong
Profile Joined April 2012
United States49 Posts
April 22 2013 00:31 GMT
#567
On April 22 2013 09:26 Liamyan wrote:
Crank posted his match results on twiter,is that against the rules? why Crank is still not being DQed?


Hey, I'm Chinese and I'm pissed as hell that we've been shafted at this MLG, but let's be reasonable. Crank obviously deserves his qualification, and we shouldn't try to screw over other players just because we have been screwed over.

Just direct your anger at MLG instead, instead of wishing ill upon others.
I've made a huge mistake.
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
April 22 2013 00:33 GMT
#568
Sigh, really disappointed with MLG. This is a huge deal for Chinese SC2 scene. It is pretty small to begin with, and left out by the world due to network issues. This accident will probably keep them from attending any other foreign tournaments, huge disappointment.
Liamyan
Profile Joined April 2013
United States12 Posts
April 22 2013 00:34 GMT
#569
On April 22 2013 09:31 jackrlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:26 Liamyan wrote:
Crank posted his match results on twiter,is that against the rules? why Crank is still not being DQed?


Hey, I'm Chinese and I'm pissed as hell that we've been shafted at this MLG, but let's be reasonable. Crank obviously deserves his qualification, and we shouldn't try to screw over other players just because we have been screwed over.

Just direct your anger at MLG instead, instead of wishing ill upon others.

MLG use that stupid rules against us. so what should we do ? use their rules against them, thats how it comes.
Im just here let them know rules r used for all the players not just Chinese
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 00:37:59
April 22 2013 00:36 GMT
#570
On April 22 2013 09:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:26 Beakyboo wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:17 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:15 Beakyboo wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 Judicator wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:52 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:50 Elairec wrote:
Didn't Comm take over his teammates account AFTER first round had been played? If you can't understand why that would DQ him and his friend, I am sorry.

Agreed, I don't understand why people are expecting MLG to let that slide. There is a reason that rule is in place, like preventing one player from ghosting at 3 or 4 people to give several shots at qualifying.


Lol see now you are just spreading lies. Anything to defend MLG I guess. If you don't hold tourneys accountable for their mistakes, then they will never improve. If everyone turned a blind eye to things like you, nothing would ever progress. Mindless fanboyism does nothing and is a negative.

Why would you let anyone sign up twice for the qualifier? Why would you ever do that? Why would you EVER let a player play under someone else account, ever?


Because MLG is terrible at TO-ing? Like really, its one thing to let someone sign up and play a few rounds, it's another to let it go for that long.


How the FUCK are they supposed to know who is using the PC? HE IS IN CHINA!!!!!! MLG's job is to enforce the rules, which he broke. I don't are how good he is, he broke the rules to get into the event. He signed up twice, which is against the rules for a reason.

Maybe, but really you shouldn't have to sign up twice to get into the event in the first place and that is yet another failure of MLG's that they're now drawing further attention to.

This guy won WCS china. He deserves to be able to play here. It's BS that a high caliber player like this was excluded in the first place just because of MLG's incompetency.

MLG needs to just let this one slide. Let him play. No one's going to hold that against them.

If he won WSC China, his team should have made sure he would be in the qualifier by contacting MLG the instant was not one of the first 512 people to sign up. But they didn't read the rules and didn't understand the some of their players did not make the cut off time. And when they were told they couldn't play, Comm tried to play under someone elses account, which got him DQ because that is against the rules.

Well it was my understanding that there was some miscommunication and they believed they did confirm that their players had made it into the tournament.

Even still, it's obvious why MLG has these rules in place, but their intentions were pretty honest. It's not like they were abusing by signing up for extra spots to get in. The reality is that all the chinese players should have been able to compete. They got screwed out of that and tried to give what spots they got to the deserving players. Now MLG's screwing them out of that too. I don't see how anyone couldn't sympathize with how frustrating that has got to be.

MLG can still change this and they really should.

I really don't think posting a complaint on reddit that you didn't red the rules correctly and then trying to use someone else's account should be rewarded. The team did not read the rules and registered some of their players late. There is a warning on the MLG site about people who signed up after 512 in huge, red letters. But they must have missed it.



What Comm ended up doing was certainly against the rules, but it was his only option after things like

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had occurred. It's hard to say they missed anything when they immediately contacted MLG when they noticed something was astray.

The argument put forth against Comm's DQ is that even though he broke the rules, the rules were flexible enough to not warrant a DQ given the honest intentions and circumstances behind using his student's account, the mentioning of Crank is an example of (a lesser) infraction being ignored.

All in all a terrible situation, the Chinese SC2 scene is already on life support and this might just have been the final nail in the coffin for a region at least as strong as NA.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
April 22 2013 00:37 GMT
#571

Hey, Blizzard, if you got balls, open a Non-Korean-Asian WCS in Shanghai.
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
April 22 2013 00:37 GMT
#572
Oh and between guys, MLG yesterday showed that CranK qualified on their own bracket way before CranK posted it on his twitter

so MLG should be banned.
someone_elses_lies@live.fr
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
April 22 2013 00:37 GMT
#573
On April 22 2013 09:33 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Sigh, really disappointed with MLG. This is a huge deal for Chinese SC2 scene. It is pretty small to begin with, and left out by the world due to network issues. This accident will probably keep them from attending any other foreign tournaments, huge disappointment.


Exactly! this is a missed opportunity. Very disappointing.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 00:38:57
April 22 2013 00:38 GMT
#574
On April 22 2013 09:28 Plansix wrote:
Are you the same guy who made that thread earlier that got closed? I mean, I love all the accounts with under 10 posts coming to the defense of Comm. Its amazing all these folks from the US coming to defend him, even if their English isn't that great.

Yeah, people with low post count should never post, that way they will never get a high post count and be counted as a contributer under your own personal meter.

As opposed to your spam like defence of mlg over many hours, saying that they didn't read rules, when on the OP, they have been told by an admin that they are "checked in and good to go".
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
April 22 2013 00:40 GMT
#575
On April 22 2013 09:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:26 Liamyan wrote:
Crank posted his match results on twiter,is that against the rules? why Crank is still not being DQed?

Are you the same guy who made that thread earlier that got closed? I mean, I love all the accounts with under 10 posts coming to the defense of Comm. Its amazing all these folks from the US coming to defend him, even if their English isn't that great.


Look. I have more than 10, and i actually think he has a point. Kinda.

I don't think Crank should be DQed for that. But warned. He did something that was against the rules, which you defended so vigorously earlier. The same rules which btw say that you "may" get DQed for example for using another account.

Let's be just objective here for a second, because slowly you slip from being the annoying troll to just an idiot, defending bullshit at every cost.

Both should be warned, and then given the opportunity to give their best because they deserve to do so (more so than a random diamond scrub, or empty slots from people that didn't show up). With DQing Comm and completely ignoring Cranks break of the rules, MLG brings that shit over themselves. Defending that just makes you look as stupid.
Beakyboo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States485 Posts
April 22 2013 00:41 GMT
#576
On April 22 2013 09:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:26 Beakyboo wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:17 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:15 Beakyboo wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 Judicator wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:52 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:50 Elairec wrote:
Didn't Comm take over his teammates account AFTER first round had been played? If you can't understand why that would DQ him and his friend, I am sorry.

Agreed, I don't understand why people are expecting MLG to let that slide. There is a reason that rule is in place, like preventing one player from ghosting at 3 or 4 people to give several shots at qualifying.


Lol see now you are just spreading lies. Anything to defend MLG I guess. If you don't hold tourneys accountable for their mistakes, then they will never improve. If everyone turned a blind eye to things like you, nothing would ever progress. Mindless fanboyism does nothing and is a negative.

Why would you let anyone sign up twice for the qualifier? Why would you ever do that? Why would you EVER let a player play under someone else account, ever?


Because MLG is terrible at TO-ing? Like really, its one thing to let someone sign up and play a few rounds, it's another to let it go for that long.


How the FUCK are they supposed to know who is using the PC? HE IS IN CHINA!!!!!! MLG's job is to enforce the rules, which he broke. I don't are how good he is, he broke the rules to get into the event. He signed up twice, which is against the rules for a reason.

Maybe, but really you shouldn't have to sign up twice to get into the event in the first place and that is yet another failure of MLG's that they're now drawing further attention to.

This guy won WCS china. He deserves to be able to play here. It's BS that a high caliber player like this was excluded in the first place just because of MLG's incompetency.

MLG needs to just let this one slide. Let him play. No one's going to hold that against them.

If he won WSC China, his team should have made sure he would be in the qualifier by contacting MLG the instant was not one of the first 512 people to sign up. But they didn't read the rules and didn't understand the some of their players did not make the cut off time. And when they were told they couldn't play, Comm tried to play under someone elses account, which got him DQ because that is against the rules.

Well it was my understanding that there was some miscommunication and they believed they did confirm that their players had made it into the tournament.

Even still, it's obvious why MLG has these rules in place, but their intentions were pretty honest. It's not like they were abusing by signing up for extra spots to get in. The reality is that all the chinese players should have been able to compete. They got screwed out of that and tried to give what spots they got to the deserving players. Now MLG's screwing them out of that too. I don't see how anyone couldn't sympathize with how frustrating that has got to be.

MLG can still change this and they really should.

I really don't think posting a complaint on reddit that you didn't red the rules correctly and then trying to use someone else's account should be rewarded. The team did not read the rules and registered some of their players late. There is a warning on the MLG site about people who signed up after 512 in huge, red letters. But they must have missed it.

Aren't there literally screenshots of the chatlogs where admins tell these guys they're signed up and "good to go"? Like, come on... You can't act like MLG has no fault in this. This would never have happened in WCS EU.
jackrlong
Profile Joined April 2012
United States49 Posts
April 22 2013 00:41 GMT
#577
On April 22 2013 09:34 Liamyan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:31 jackrlong wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:26 Liamyan wrote:
Crank posted his match results on twiter,is that against the rules? why Crank is still not being DQed?


Hey, I'm Chinese and I'm pissed as hell that we've been shafted at this MLG, but let's be reasonable. Crank obviously deserves his qualification, and we shouldn't try to screw over other players just because we have been screwed over.

Just direct your anger at MLG instead, instead of wishing ill upon others.

MLG use that stupid rules against us. so what should we do ? use their rules against them, thats how it comes.
Im just here let them know rules r used for all the players not just Chinese


Well, instead of asking them to disqualify Crank, we should be asking them to REINSTATE comm instead. Crank isn't associated with MLG, and TotalBiscuit has been done so much good for the SC2 community that I don't think anyone should wish ill upon him.

#SaveComm
I've made a huge mistake.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 22 2013 00:41 GMT
#578
On April 22 2013 09:17 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:15 Beakyboo wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 Judicator wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:52 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:50 Elairec wrote:
Didn't Comm take over his teammates account AFTER first round had been played? If you can't understand why that would DQ him and his friend, I am sorry.

Agreed, I don't understand why people are expecting MLG to let that slide. There is a reason that rule is in place, like preventing one player from ghosting at 3 or 4 people to give several shots at qualifying.


Lol see now you are just spreading lies. Anything to defend MLG I guess. If you don't hold tourneys accountable for their mistakes, then they will never improve. If everyone turned a blind eye to things like you, nothing would ever progress. Mindless fanboyism does nothing and is a negative.

Why would you let anyone sign up twice for the qualifier? Why would you ever do that? Why would you EVER let a player play under someone else account, ever?


Because MLG is terrible at TO-ing? Like really, its one thing to let someone sign up and play a few rounds, it's another to let it go for that long.


How the FUCK are they supposed to know who is using the PC? HE IS IN CHINA!!!!!! MLG's job is to enforce the rules, which he broke. I don't are how good he is, he broke the rules to get into the event. He signed up twice, which is against the rules for a reason.

Maybe, but really you shouldn't have to sign up twice to get into the event in the first place and that is yet another failure of MLG's that they're now drawing further attention to.

This guy won WCS china. He deserves to be able to play here. It's BS that a high caliber player like this was excluded in the first place just because of MLG's incompetency.

MLG needs to just let this one slide. Let him play. No one's going to hold that against them.

If he won WSC China, his team should have made sure he would be in the qualifier by contacting MLG the instant was not one of the first 512 people to sign up. But they didn't read the rules and didn't understand the some of their players did not make the cut off time. And when they were told they couldn't play, Comm tried to play under someone elses account, which got him DQ because that is against the rules.


Please tell me how not knowing who someone is when they are in loser's finals is good TO-ing. Please do, I really would like to know. Please also tell me why you think MLG's organization has anywhere been near competent. Please also tell me how they're suppose to handle the fact that they let someone who broke the rules eliminate 5+ other players. Please tell me how that's a good TO. Please tell me how MLG has not fucked up this tournament to resemble a high school lunch time LAN in terms of organization.

This isn't 1 or 2 rounds, this guy made it to fucking loser's finals which is a fucking joke on MLG's part, not to mention part of the issue stems from MLG's terrible sign-up process. You can make the short-sighted argument that MLG can't be expected to know everyone that's playing, but it's not MLG's fault that Comm made it all the way to loser's final before being DQ-ed right?
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United States10734 Posts
April 22 2013 00:41 GMT
#579
On April 22 2013 09:36 Kupon3ss wrote:
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On April 22 2013 09:31 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:26 Beakyboo wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:17 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:15 Beakyboo wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 Judicator wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:00 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 22 2013 08:52 Plansix wrote:
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Agreed, I don't understand why people are expecting MLG to let that slide. There is a reason that rule is in place, like preventing one player from ghosting at 3 or 4 people to give several shots at qualifying.


Lol see now you are just spreading lies. Anything to defend MLG I guess. If you don't hold tourneys accountable for their mistakes, then they will never improve. If everyone turned a blind eye to things like you, nothing would ever progress. Mindless fanboyism does nothing and is a negative.

Why would you let anyone sign up twice for the qualifier? Why would you ever do that? Why would you EVER let a player play under someone else account, ever?


Because MLG is terrible at TO-ing? Like really, its one thing to let someone sign up and play a few rounds, it's another to let it go for that long.


How the FUCK are they supposed to know who is using the PC? HE IS IN CHINA!!!!!! MLG's job is to enforce the rules, which he broke. I don't are how good he is, he broke the rules to get into the event. He signed up twice, which is against the rules for a reason.

Maybe, but really you shouldn't have to sign up twice to get into the event in the first place and that is yet another failure of MLG's that they're now drawing further attention to.

This guy won WCS china. He deserves to be able to play here. It's BS that a high caliber player like this was excluded in the first place just because of MLG's incompetency.

MLG needs to just let this one slide. Let him play. No one's going to hold that against them.

If he won WSC China, his team should have made sure he would be in the qualifier by contacting MLG the instant was not one of the first 512 people to sign up. But they didn't read the rules and didn't understand the some of their players did not make the cut off time. And when they were told they couldn't play, Comm tried to play under someone elses account, which got him DQ because that is against the rules.

Well it was my understanding that there was some miscommunication and they believed they did confirm that their players had made it into the tournament.

Even still, it's obvious why MLG has these rules in place, but their intentions were pretty honest. It's not like they were abusing by signing up for extra spots to get in. The reality is that all the chinese players should have been able to compete. They got screwed out of that and tried to give what spots they got to the deserving players. Now MLG's screwing them out of that too. I don't see how anyone couldn't sympathize with how frustrating that has got to be.

MLG can still change this and they really should.

I really don't think posting a complaint on reddit that you didn't red the rules correctly and then trying to use someone else's account should be rewarded. The team did not read the rules and registered some of their players late. There is a warning on the MLG site about people who signed up after 512 in huge, red letters. But they must have missed it.



What Comm ended up doing was certainly against the rules, but it was his only option after things like

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had occurred. It's hard to say they missed anything when they immediately contacted MLG when they noticed something was astray.

The argument put forth against Comm's DQ is that even though he broke the rules, the rules were flexible enough to not warrant a DQ given the honest intentions and circumstances behind using his student's account, the mentioning of Crank is an example of (a lesser) infraction being ignored.

All in all a terrible situation, the Chinese SC2 scene is already on life support and this might just have been the final nail in the coffin for a region at least as strong as NA.

1. Two wrongs don't make a right.
2. Comm making it into WCS NA is not going to save the Chinese scene.
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April 22 2013 00:42 GMT
#580
Well, the most I'm getting out of this is that Comm is a PR genius.
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