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On April 22 2013 04:33 Sokrates wrote:
I played against INNphysics about 8months ago (i dont remember exactly). I went for an 8pool and he went 10p. But he left his lings in his base without any scouting info at all which clearly indicates some kind of hack.
Most things point towards some kind of production tab hack
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Well it looks like it truly is the begining of the end for him.
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I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S.
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On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S.
Like a lot of hackers he is probably desperate for attention. Now that he should be blacklisted by the community when can go back to ignoring his pointless existence.
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On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S.
Cheaters/Hackers are not generally known for their intelligence, he most likely did not even think that far ahead.
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http://drop.sc/164717
Here is the replay, clearly obvious maphack (not just productiontabhack). Solid evidence!
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On April 22 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S. Cheaters/Hackers are not generally known for their intelligence, he most likely did not even think that far ahead. Please don't tell me you actually have such a rose coloured perception of the world.
Protip: The smart hackers never got caught and continue to hack up to this day.
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On April 22 2013 04:51 SiskosGoatee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S. Cheaters/Hackers are not generally known for their intelligence, he most likely did not even think that far ahead. Please don't tell me you actually have such a rose coloured perception of the world. Protip: The smart hackers never got caught and continue to hack up to this day.
Hence the word "generally". Most hackers are not clever, smart or intelligent. Of course there are smart hackers and cheaters but they are a minority amongst cheaters/hackers.
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On April 22 2013 04:56 Fluffboll wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 04:51 SiskosGoatee wrote:On April 22 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S. Cheaters/Hackers are not generally known for their intelligence, he most likely did not even think that far ahead. Please don't tell me you actually have such a rose coloured perception of the world. Protip: The smart hackers never got caught and continue to hack up to this day. Hence the word "generally". Most hackers are not clever, smart or intelligent. Of course there are smart hackers and cheaters but they are a minority amongst cheaters/hackers.
There's not a lot of evidence to support your claim. I could be a brilliant person, that one day decided I wanted to hack. This doesn't suddenly decrease my IQ by 30, whether I made an effort to hide my hacking or not.
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He said generally, the thing is that a lot of hackers denie the hacking and make up stupid argument why they did this and that. That is not an indicator for high intelligence, rather low intelligence since they think the other people are so stupid that they cant figure this out.
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On April 22 2013 04:56 Fluffboll wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 04:51 SiskosGoatee wrote:On April 22 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S. Cheaters/Hackers are not generally known for their intelligence, he most likely did not even think that far ahead. Please don't tell me you actually have such a rose coloured perception of the world. Protip: The smart hackers never got caught and continue to hack up to this day. Hence the word "generally". Most hackers are not clever, smart or intelligent. Of course there are smart hackers and cheaters but they are a minority amongst cheaters/hackers.
that doesn't make much sense, given how hard it is to catch hackers, how productive it can be to hack, and how lenient the community is about everything there's no reason for smart people not to hack, and we'd probably never know if they do. the only thing stopping anyone is that you can't stream with it on, besides ethics.
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On April 22 2013 05:08 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 04:56 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 SiskosGoatee wrote:On April 22 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S. Cheaters/Hackers are not generally known for their intelligence, he most likely did not even think that far ahead. Please don't tell me you actually have such a rose coloured perception of the world. Protip: The smart hackers never got caught and continue to hack up to this day. Hence the word "generally". Most hackers are not clever, smart or intelligent. Of course there are smart hackers and cheaters but they are a minority amongst cheaters/hackers. that doesn't make much sense, given how hard it is to catch hackers, how productive it can be to hack, and how lenient the community is about everything there's no reason for smart people not to hack, and we'd probably never know if they do. the only thing stopping anyone is that you can't stream with it on, besides ethics.
+1. If hackers weren't smart, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't need "GM/Master map hacking threads" and such just to confirm accusations. It would be more obvious imo.
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On April 22 2013 05:00 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 04:56 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 SiskosGoatee wrote:On April 22 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S. Cheaters/Hackers are not generally known for their intelligence, he most likely did not even think that far ahead. Please don't tell me you actually have such a rose coloured perception of the world. Protip: The smart hackers never got caught and continue to hack up to this day. Hence the word "generally". Most hackers are not clever, smart or intelligent. Of course there are smart hackers and cheaters but they are a minority amongst cheaters/hackers. There's not a lot of evidence to support your claim. I could be a brilliant person, that one day decided I wanted to hack. This doesn't suddenly decrease my IQ by 30, whether I made an effort to hide my hacking or not.
that's like saying "i could be a stupid person who one day decided to invent the theory of relativity"
people who hack normally do so because they aren't smart and having a maphack decreases the amount of intelligence needed to win games. why would an intelligent person hack? it does very little for them compared to a stupid person
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On April 22 2013 05:27 sertman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:00 Zenbrez wrote:On April 22 2013 04:56 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 SiskosGoatee wrote:On April 22 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S. Cheaters/Hackers are not generally known for their intelligence, he most likely did not even think that far ahead. Please don't tell me you actually have such a rose coloured perception of the world. Protip: The smart hackers never got caught and continue to hack up to this day. Hence the word "generally". Most hackers are not clever, smart or intelligent. Of course there are smart hackers and cheaters but they are a minority amongst cheaters/hackers. There's not a lot of evidence to support your claim. I could be a brilliant person, that one day decided I wanted to hack. This doesn't suddenly decrease my IQ by 30, whether I made an effort to hide my hacking or not. that's like saying "i could be a stupid person who one day decided to invent the theory of relativity" people who hack normally do so because they aren't smart and having a maphack decreases the amount of intelligence needed to win games. why would an intelligent person hack? it does very little for them compared to a stupid person
So they can do better in online tournies, and probably not get caught or at least be a pain in the ass to catch.
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On April 22 2013 05:27 sertman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:00 Zenbrez wrote:On April 22 2013 04:56 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 SiskosGoatee wrote:On April 22 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S. Cheaters/Hackers are not generally known for their intelligence, he most likely did not even think that far ahead. Please don't tell me you actually have such a rose coloured perception of the world. Protip: The smart hackers never got caught and continue to hack up to this day. Hence the word "generally". Most hackers are not clever, smart or intelligent. Of course there are smart hackers and cheaters but they are a minority amongst cheaters/hackers. There's not a lot of evidence to support your claim. I could be a brilliant person, that one day decided I wanted to hack. This doesn't suddenly decrease my IQ by 30, whether I made an effort to hide my hacking or not. that's like saying "i could be a stupid person who one day decided to invent the theory of relativity" people who hack normally do so because they aren't smart and having a maphack decreases the amount of intelligence needed to win games. why would an intelligent person hack? it does very little for them compared to a stupid person
Dude, do you even ladder? Since when you do need to be intelligent to win a game or use a hack? All you have to know is what unit counters the other unit and bam, you can win a game.
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On April 22 2013 05:19 Shin_Gouki wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:08 IdrA wrote:On April 22 2013 04:56 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 SiskosGoatee wrote:On April 22 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S. Cheaters/Hackers are not generally known for their intelligence, he most likely did not even think that far ahead. Please don't tell me you actually have such a rose coloured perception of the world. Protip: The smart hackers never got caught and continue to hack up to this day. Hence the word "generally". Most hackers are not clever, smart or intelligent. Of course there are smart hackers and cheaters but they are a minority amongst cheaters/hackers. that doesn't make much sense, given how hard it is to catch hackers, how productive it can be to hack, and how lenient the community is about everything there's no reason for smart people not to hack, and we'd probably never know if they do. the only thing stopping anyone is that you can't stream with it on, besides ethics. +1. If hackers weren't smart, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't need "GM/Master map hacking threads" and such just to confirm accusations. It would be more obvious imo.
Wrong, we need this thread because hackers can easily dodge blizzards warden. Some maphackers dont even hide their hacking, nothing smart about this. In the last 3 weeks i played at least vs 4-5 hackers where i could tell you he is hacking without having to watch the replay again.
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On April 22 2013 05:33 Sokrates wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:19 Shin_Gouki wrote:On April 22 2013 05:08 IdrA wrote:On April 22 2013 04:56 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 SiskosGoatee wrote:On April 22 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S. Cheaters/Hackers are not generally known for their intelligence, he most likely did not even think that far ahead. Please don't tell me you actually have such a rose coloured perception of the world. Protip: The smart hackers never got caught and continue to hack up to this day. Hence the word "generally". Most hackers are not clever, smart or intelligent. Of course there are smart hackers and cheaters but they are a minority amongst cheaters/hackers. that doesn't make much sense, given how hard it is to catch hackers, how productive it can be to hack, and how lenient the community is about everything there's no reason for smart people not to hack, and we'd probably never know if they do. the only thing stopping anyone is that you can't stream with it on, besides ethics. +1. If hackers weren't smart, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't need "GM/Master map hacking threads" and such just to confirm accusations. It would be more obvious imo. Wrong, we need this thread because hackers can easily dodge blizzards warden. Some maphackers dont even hide their hacking, nothing smart about this. In the last 3 weeks i played at least vs 4-5 hackers where i could tell you he is hacking without having to watch the replay again.
I have had people tell me that I'm map hacking, and it was obvious and that they didn't need to watch the replay. Mid-High Master EU. An example is one with a Terran who was going for a Hellbat drop. He neglected to go down his ramp and kill my probe which was sitting on his natural up until the 9 min mark. Positioned Stalkers to intercept possible drop, only thing that surprised me was that Hellbats came out, and not mines... would have not made cannons.
But ya, some people just blurt out accusations but it can happen that some hidden strat/cheese is countered by their own stupidity.
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I don't understand why people go through so much trouble to hack? money? 'esports-fame'? surely no one can stretch something like this far enough to actually make a decent amount of money, if any?.. And fame.. well, qualify and show up at LAN, get owned, GL with rest of life..
I feel bad for CatZ and the others who had to play this Lee guy..
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Well I sure hope Marine has kicked him from iMp by now lol.
Is Demjien (the guy who's playing on the account and hacking) currently on a team or anything? Does he play in any leagues?
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On April 22 2013 05:40 BeyondCtrL wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 05:33 Sokrates wrote:On April 22 2013 05:19 Shin_Gouki wrote:On April 22 2013 05:08 IdrA wrote:On April 22 2013 04:56 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:51 SiskosGoatee wrote:On April 22 2013 04:40 Fluffboll wrote:On April 22 2013 04:38 Blargh wrote:
I'm just curious, but did this guy expect to go through a Blizzard-associated tournament using a hack (of some sort)? Surely he realized that if he made it up to the point where he had to play live that he wouldn't be able to use anything! Though, ~$1,200 is nice for just being in Code S. Cheaters/Hackers are not generally known for their intelligence, he most likely did not even think that far ahead. Please don't tell me you actually have such a rose coloured perception of the world. Protip: The smart hackers never got caught and continue to hack up to this day. Hence the word "generally". Most hackers are not clever, smart or intelligent. Of course there are smart hackers and cheaters but they are a minority amongst cheaters/hackers. that doesn't make much sense, given how hard it is to catch hackers, how productive it can be to hack, and how lenient the community is about everything there's no reason for smart people not to hack, and we'd probably never know if they do. the only thing stopping anyone is that you can't stream with it on, besides ethics. +1. If hackers weren't smart, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't need "GM/Master map hacking threads" and such just to confirm accusations. It would be more obvious imo. Wrong, we need this thread because hackers can easily dodge blizzards warden. Some maphackers dont even hide their hacking, nothing smart about this. In the last 3 weeks i played at least vs 4-5 hackers where i could tell you he is hacking without having to watch the replay again. I have had people tell me that I'm map hacking, and it was obvious and that they didn't need to watch the replay. Mid-High Master EU. An example is one with a Terran who was going for a Hellbat drop. He neglected to go down his ramp and kill my probe which was sitting on his natural up until the 9 min mark. Positioned Stalkers to intercept possible drop, only thing that surprised me was that Hellbats came out, and not mines... would have not made cannons. But ya, some people just blurt out accusations but it can happen that some hidden strat/cheese is countered by their own stupidity.
Do your research before you "blurt out accusations", all the hackers i accused were added to the hacklist on TL. I reported at least 8-10 hackers that were added to that list. Obvious maphackers were obvious.
I also got accused of hacking but who the fuck cares? You need a replay to prove anyway.
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