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Hey guys,
I'm currently Top 16 GM in Americas and I'd like to share a couple of my replays against top players such as Suppy, gowser, Stephano, Nony, Kane, etc. I'm from Argentina, and SC2 is a bit hard for us people living down here  . Hopefully this will help get my name out there to the world.
Replay pack link: http://www.mediafire.com/?ejie5t1u5luffxz
The replay pack contains about 40~ replays. My playstyle is aggressive, includes lots of timing pushes/all ins and some macro games, and of course, some fruiting considering the game came out a few weeks ago.
Media stuff:
Facebook fan page: https://www.facebook.com/capoch.ar
Please check it out and drop a like if you enjoyed the games 
Twitter: https://twitter.com/capoch_esports
You can check my stream here: http://es-es.twitch.tv/iamcapoch
I'm gonna start streaming often soon, just gotta work out a couple of things with my schedule but I'm considering hopefully soon to be streaming often during the night (Argentina time).
TL fan club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200944
(this is pretty old from 2010 I think, guess it's been forever forgotten, could use a revamp!).
I hope you enjoy the reps, and comments are always welcome :D
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Capoch!!! Sup man, haven't seen u since WoL beta.
I'll peep your games.
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Cheers for the pack; out of curiosity, are you the guy that used to go Wyverns in almost every matchup in WC3? I might be thinking of someone else.
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nice, will check them out later
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loved you in age of empires 2, will check it out
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L_Clan_Capoch! I remember your name from war3 like 10 years ago, thanks for the replay pack
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Thank you so much for these. I've been having some issues with PvZ and your replays have been inspiring me to try out your 2 base builds.
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On April 06 2013 06:02 AdrenalGBR wrote:
Cheers for the pack; out of curiosity, are you the guy that used to go Wyverns in almost every matchup in WC3? I might be thinking of someone else.
Nah, I'm not. I used to play Night Elf in WC3 
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Capoch from AoC? Awesome.
Wonder how many of the old school AoC players play SC2?
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I think i played you a lot before right?
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i was hoping for a demonstration reaction to different builds on different scenarios, and I was also looking for how to deal with terran mid game harassment and zerg late game army.
out of all your games none has gone into late game, in fact i don't even see one game you actually took a 3rd, every game it's a 2 base timing or one base timing, that's all it takes to get into top 16gm, i don't believe it, where's the rest of your replays? you are hiding your real strategies. There are enough ppl in GM ladder that will not die to any of these timing builds for me to think you must make it up there with a one two punch that kept them guessing.
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On April 06 2013 09:24 rei wrote:
i was hoping for a demonstration reaction to different builds on different scenarios, and I was also looking for how to deal with terran mid game harassment and zerg late game army.
out of all your games none has gone into late game, in fact i don't even see one game you actually took a 3rd, every game it's a 2 base timing or one base timing, that's all it takes to get into top 16gm, i don't believe it, where's the rest of your replays? you are hiding your real strategies. There are enough ppl in GM ladder that will not die to any of these timing builds for me to think you must make it up there with a one two punch that kept them guessing.
No he's not hiding strategies that's how he plays on ladder.
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On April 06 2013 09:24 rei wrote:
i was hoping for a demonstration reaction to different builds on different scenarios, and I was also looking for how to deal with terran mid game harassment and zerg late game army.
out of all your games none has gone into late game, in fact i don't even see one game you actually took a 3rd, every game it's a 2 base timing or one base timing, that's all it takes to get into top 16gm, i don't believe it, where's the rest of your replays? you are hiding your real strategies. There are enough ppl in GM ladder that will not die to any of these timing builds for me to think you must make it up there with a one two punch that kept them guessing.
To be honest, going on 3 bases vs terran is pretty hard, their mid game with super fast drops just destroys you in most maps. I'm waiting for a nerf on medivacs to play more macro games vs terran. PvP is a bit hard to get on 3 bases, most games consist in 1 base or 2 bases. PvZ is mostly 3+ bases, thats pretty standard now, and I the replay pack mostly I picked it up randomly, remembering a couple of games only.
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On April 06 2013 09:47 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 09:24 rei wrote:
i was hoping for a demonstration reaction to different builds on different scenarios, and I was also looking for how to deal with terran mid game harassment and zerg late game army.
out of all your games none has gone into late game, in fact i don't even see one game you actually took a 3rd, every game it's a 2 base timing or one base timing, that's all it takes to get into top 16gm, i don't believe it, where's the rest of your replays? you are hiding your real strategies. There are enough ppl in GM ladder that will not die to any of these timing builds for me to think you must make it up there with a one two punch that kept them guessing. No he's not hiding strategies that's how he plays on ladder.
thanks for bumping thread
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On April 06 2013 09:24 rei wrote:
i was hoping for a demonstration reaction to different builds on different scenarios, and I was also looking for how to deal with terran mid game harassment and zerg late game army.
out of all your games none has gone into late game, in fact i don't even see one game you actually took a 3rd, every game it's a 2 base timing or one base timing, that's all it takes to get into top 16gm, i don't believe it, where's the rest of your replays? you are hiding your real strategies. There are enough ppl in GM ladder that will not die to any of these timing builds for me to think you must make it up there with a one two punch that kept them guessing.
There once was a player called Ruff
He showed getting GM was quite tough
He'd allin every game, as he hath no shame
You'd blind counter that shit and: good game
Oh, that's what you'd think, but to my surprise
It's those players that are my demise
Keep in mind that in HotS it's difficult to get a deef of exactly how some of these allins are countered as the game is still new, so cheese is very prevalent in GM at the moment. Hopefully GSL will quell some of this as the metagame develops.
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Honestly...I watched all your games and it could be summarized with: 2base all-ins every match (PvZ and PvT) because those where you took a third you all lost if I remember correctly (2-3 games maybe in the whole pack)....and didnt bother watching PvP...nice pack tho...gave me good ideas for all-ins I could perform on friends or maybe ladder when I want a quick game but well...once the meta stabilizes and the guides begins popping on the forum...I don't see how you will be able to stay in GM...sorry mate! To me a cheeser does'nt belong in the GM.
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this shit has nothing to do with meta, most of the stuffs this guy uses are one time use only, one should not lose to the same thing again after seeing it once, there is no secondary build that has a opening looks exactly alike but require a drastically different response to defend it. Which means people in GM have bad memory and doesn't remember his name every time they play him or they are not that good, and still die to him knowing a timing attack is coming.
and stop using the term all in, he didn't put everything in, if it were all in he would pull every single probe and have ALL his shit that can move IN the attack. Besides, depend on how much damage he dealt with the attack, the game could still be even and would proceed into mid game after the hold.
and finally, notice I never said anything negative toward this player? all i said was I am disappointed that I don't got to learn some of the stuffs i want to learn. It still takes good execution and planning to do timing attacks, just like it takes skills to defend it without knowing it's coming, because you need a build that is able to adapt to anything random timing attack out there.
When one don't respect timing attacks they will not take their time to practice fighting it because they think it's a gimmick and can easily be stop next time. But the fact is the guy who does these timing attacks all the time have a lot of practice on the execution but on the other hand the guy who looks down on it doesn't, so when even when they know it's coming they still fuck up on the execution of defending it. Who's fault is it that they keep getting cheese by the same guy? Ithis is part of the reason why foreigners keep getting own by koreans, disrespecting the game they are playing like this guy http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342
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On April 06 2013 10:03 Capoch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 09:47 blade55555 wrote:On April 06 2013 09:24 rei wrote:
i was hoping for a demonstration reaction to different builds on different scenarios, and I was also looking for how to deal with terran mid game harassment and zerg late game army.
out of all your games none has gone into late game, in fact i don't even see one game you actually took a 3rd, every game it's a 2 base timing or one base timing, that's all it takes to get into top 16gm, i don't believe it, where's the rest of your replays? you are hiding your real strategies. There are enough ppl in GM ladder that will not die to any of these timing builds for me to think you must make it up there with a one two punch that kept them guessing. No he's not hiding strategies that's how he plays on ladder. thanks for bumping thread
Not a problem was just letting the guy know that you weren't hiding anything and that's just how you play ^_^.
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On April 06 2013 11:49 pure_protoss wrote:
Honestly...I watched all your games and it could be summarized with: 2base all-ins every match (PvZ and PvT) because those where you took a third you all lost if I remember correctly (2-3 games maybe in the whole pack)....and didnt bother watching PvP...nice pack tho...gave me good ideas for all-ins I could perform on friends or maybe ladder when I want a quick game but well...once the meta stabilizes and the guides begins popping on the forum...I don't see how you will be able to stay in GM...sorry mate! To me a cheeser does'nt belong in the GM.
Yeah man, he should go for the Artosis 1 hour 30 minute tempest/HT/mass cannons every single game because performing all-ins is for bad players /s
on a more serious note, keep up the good work Capoch. If you win you win; it's the opponent's fault for not reacting to a specific build and countering it.
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shouldnt be getting so much flak...for those who havent played much high masters+ in the first year or two of SC2, Capoch was always near the top/in GM.. Hes not a one hit wonder. I've played him probably 20 times back in 2011 when I was up there too. He'll be able to stay high masters/low GM once the meta "stabilizes" as you say.
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I never said the guy was not a good player...People mis-interpret what I said...I said that he didn't belong in GM because he is cheesing all games...in the next month maybe 2, all those all-ins will be figured out by the best players (most GM's and top Master's) and then, it will not work anymore...I simply meant that as long as he cheeses like that everygame, he doesn't show me anything worth of GM level...sure his execution is pretty neat and I can't take that from the guy...but the effectiveness won't last long in my opinion...not at this level at least. He will probably get demoted to top-masters if he keeps playing like that in the long run....However, with this execution, he clearly has the ability to step-up his game and stay in GM if he starts learning the mid-late game style.
and stop using the term all in, he didn't put everything in, if it were all in he would pull every single probe and have ALL his shit that can move IN the attack. Besides, depend on how much damage he dealt with the attack, the game could still be even and would proceed into mid game after the hold.
It is generally considered an all-in for protoss if he goes with alot of gateways and very few techs coming while not taking a third...For terrans, bringing SCV's is part of the all-in because of the mules that are still giving income...so, with your definition, Zerg and Toss would never be able to make a ''decent'' all-in So yes they are all-ins...very well executed ones tho!
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Watched a few of your PvPs, pretty solid builds and I really like the 3 gate into SG one. I will be stealing it for sure
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Some guys should have more respect from a Gm player when talking about Sc2. Capoch is Gm since the Gm league release.
Either non-P players, who for obvious reasons have no idea about the race at higher leveles, or not top P's; respect please.
So far the most successful Protoss in hots is MC. And he got his top4 MLG spot using mostly all-ins. Is the (sad) bane of the race in Sc2. Deal with it (kinda Blizz speach as how the game plays for the race).
Thx for the pack Capoch.
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On April 06 2013 12:07 pure_protoss wrote:I never said the guy was not a good player...People mis-interpret what I said...I said that he didn't belong in GM because he is cheesing all games...in the next month maybe 2, all those all-ins will be figured out by the best players (most GM's and top Master's) and then, it will not work anymore...I simply meant that as long as he cheeses like that everygame, he doesn't show me anything worth of GM level...sure his execution is pretty neat and I can't take that from the guy...but the effectiveness won't last long in my opinion...not at this level at least. He will probably get demoted to top-masters if he keeps playing like that in the long run....However, with this execution, he clearly has the ability to step-up his game and stay in GM if he starts learning the mid-late game style. Show nested quote +and stop using the term all in, he didn't put everything in, if it were all in he would pull every single probe and have ALL his shit that can move IN the attack. Besides, depend on how much damage he dealt with the attack, the game could still be even and would proceed into mid game after the hold. It is generally considered an all-in for protoss if he goes with alot of gateways and very few techs coming while not taking a third...For terrans, bringing SCV's is part of the all-in because of the mules that are still giving income...so, with your definition, Zerg and Toss would never be able to make a ''decent'' all-in So yes they are all-ins...very well executed ones tho!
So much elitism in this post where you basically look down on non-macro oriented play. It actually hurts just reading the elitism drip from this post.
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this elitism against cheese and timing attacks is part of the reason the foreigners gets own by Koreans. By that logic if his play were really not up to GM standard, then what standard do you consider all those who get beat by the cheese and timing attacks? are they up to GM standard? skill is what wins games period. you don't separate different way of winning the game and say winning game earlier is less skilled than wining game later.
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On April 06 2013 12:07 pure_protoss wrote:I never said the guy was not a good player...People mis-interpret what I said...I said that he didn't belong in GM because he is cheesing all games...in the next month maybe 2, all those all-ins will be figured out by the best players (most GM's and top Master's) and then, it will not work anymore...I simply meant that as long as he cheeses like that everygame, he doesn't show me anything worth of GM level...sure his execution is pretty neat and I can't take that from the guy...but the effectiveness won't last long in my opinion...not at this level at least. He will probably get demoted to top-masters if he keeps playing like that in the long run....However, with this execution, he clearly has the ability to step-up his game and stay in GM if he starts learning the mid-late game style. Show nested quote +and stop using the term all in, he didn't put everything in, if it were all in he would pull every single probe and have ALL his shit that can move IN the attack. Besides, depend on how much damage he dealt with the attack, the game could still be even and would proceed into mid game after the hold. It is generally considered an all-in for protoss if he goes with alot of gateways and very few techs coming while not taking a third...For terrans, bringing SCV's is part of the all-in because of the mules that are still giving income...so, with your definition, Zerg and Toss would never be able to make a ''decent'' all-in So yes they are all-ins...very well executed ones tho!
If he wins by cheesing then who is worse?
The person that cheeses or the person that failed to stop the cheese? I never get why people look down upon it, its part of the game. Koreans have been abusing it for ages in pro matches. I guess they don't belong in GM either.
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loved it, cheers and keep up the good work!
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Thanks for the replays.
I dont understand the whole "you dont belong in GM because you allin".
Capoch has been a top player in the region in every single RTS game that he played, and he was one of the top AoC players in the world.
I think he is very agressive in his playstyle mostly because of how AoC was played back in the day, a lot of forwards, etcs.
If you guys really think you've nothing to learn from a top GM and a guy that has been GM in most seasons in both NA and EU then i think you are quite wrong.
Its so stupid that you say something like "Thats why foreigns get owned by koreans", dude, most of Parting success was due to the Inmortal Sentry allin, he played that for months, destroying top korean Zergs.
Allins are part of the game, is not my playstyle, but as a master level protoss i think i can learn a lot from this replay packs, so thanks a lot Capoch, and haters gonna hate.
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MC and Parting don't take flak for doing basically the same thing, based around pure timings and micro.
I think people would be amazed at the cheese on Korean ladder. LOL @ the cheese being figured out and he doesn't deserve GM. Watch Korean GM buddy, never will you have seen so much aggression in your life.
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On April 07 2013 02:46 FuriousShuank wrote:
Its so stupid that you say something like "Thats why foreigns get owned by koreans", dude, most of Parting success was due to the Inmortal Sentry allin, he played that for months, destroying top korean Zergs.
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Nah he was saying the opposite, that the elitism AGAINST the cheese is why foreigners get owned. In foreign lands cheese and timings are looked down upon by many for some reason. In Korea they absolutely are not, quite the opposite they are a vital part of every series.
The other guy was saying he will be demoted soon. Which is funny because Capoch has been a top GM since the release of the game.
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On April 07 2013 02:46 FuriousShuank wrote:
Thanks for the replays.
I dont understand the whole "you dont belong in GM because you allin".
Capoch has been a top player in the region in every single RTS game that he played, and he was one of the top AoC players in the world.
I think he is very agressive in his playstyle mostly because of how AoC was played back in the day, a lot of forwards, etcs.
If you guys really think you've nothing to learn from a top GM and a guy that has been GM in most seasons in both NA and EU then i think you are quite wrong.
Its so stupid that you say something like "Thats why foreigns get owned by koreans", dude, most of Parting success was due to the Inmortal Sentry allin, he played that for months, destroying top korean Zergs.
Allins are part of the game, is not my playstyle, but as a master level protoss i think i can learn a lot from this replay packs, so thanks a lot Capoch, and haters gonna hate.
The reason is that people like to diminish other people accomplishments and claim that they got their off of coin flips. It is easier to claim he is not a good player, don't learn from the replays and be convince you are playing the "right way". Then when you lose, its not your fault.
The simply fact is that, all in or not, knowing solid timing attacks makes you a better player. If someone has a bunch of replays of really good all ins, they are worth looking at.
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So its ok to be greedy??
WTF guys.. if you lose to aggressive players that means you're not scouting or you're playing too greedy.
Get over being bad, and play the game.
Every race is fairly good at being aggressive, but if the aggression is scouted early then it should be fairly easy to hold.
+1 for capoch
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On April 07 2013 03:02 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
MC and Parting don't take flak for doing basically the same thing, based around pure timings and micro.
I think people would be amazed at the cheese on Korean ladder. LOL @ the cheese being figured out and he doesn't deserve GM. Watch Korean GM buddy, never will you have seen so much aggression in your life.
while i agree with most of you said, i dont think Parting and MC are good comparison.I agree they do alot of allins/timing attacks but reason they are so good with them(aside amazing control) is couse they can do macro game aswell so unless you scout that they cheese you need to play greedy/eco oriented just incase they do macro build and you dont lose couse you overinvested in defence of attack that may not come, and thats huge diff between them and guy that does all-ins only.
So while i agree there is nothing bad with cheese and its as good a win as 1h macro game, i cant see it being sucesfull on pro level whn you cheese only.Great for ladder tho..My 2 cents.
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On April 06 2013 11:49 pure_protoss wrote:
Honestly...I watched all your games and it could be summarized with: 2base all-ins every match (PvZ and PvT) because those where you took a third you all lost if I remember correctly (2-3 games maybe in the whole pack)....and didnt bother watching PvP...nice pack tho...gave me good ideas for all-ins I could perform on friends or maybe ladder when I want a quick game but well...once the meta stabilizes and the guides begins popping on the forum...I don't see how you will be able to stay in GM...sorry mate! To me a cheeser does'nt belong in the GM.
Marinekingprime proves you're marinekinglying. When he all ins his opponents start marinekingcrying because they know they will be marinekingdying.
While MKP will sometimes plays macro he loves his allins/super agressive play, everything from 11/11 to pulling his SCV's at ten minutes vs Protoss.
If you say MKP doesn't belong in GM you will leave me marinekingsighing
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I'll be sure to check out those replays and supporting your cause my liking your FB page!
Thanks for the replays, it always helps when skilled players give out replay packs so that the other lesser skilled players can learn from them.
I'm excited to see what all-ins you have come up with in HotS.
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On April 07 2013 03:02 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
MC and Parting don't take flak for doing basically the same thing, based around pure timings and micro.
I think people would be amazed at the cheese on Korean ladder. LOL @ the cheese being figured out and he doesn't deserve GM. Watch Korean GM buddy, never will you have seen so much aggression in your life.
difference is they win based on control and their opponents have to respect their late game as well because they are good players, which makes their allins stronger
with this fuck if you figure out what hes doing he loses, its just a matter of figuring out which ridiculous risk hes taking in any given game.
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On April 07 2013 04:15 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 03:02 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
MC and Parting don't take flak for doing basically the same thing, based around pure timings and micro.
I think people would be amazed at the cheese on Korean ladder. LOL @ the cheese being figured out and he doesn't deserve GM. Watch Korean GM buddy, never will you have seen so much aggression in your life. difference is they win based on control and their opponents have to respect their late game as well because they are good players, which makes their allins stronger with this fuck if you figure out what hes doing he loses, its just a matter of figuring out which ridiculous risk hes taking in any given game.
i actually agree with idra, KR all in and macro because they're good at control and overall macro games, which makes them unpredictable
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On April 07 2013 03:12 .ramm wrote:
So its ok to be greedy??
WTF guys.. if you lose to aggressive players that means you're not scouting or you're playing too greedy.
This is the truth.
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On April 07 2013 04:15 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 03:02 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
MC and Parting don't take flak for doing basically the same thing, based around pure timings and micro.
I think people would be amazed at the cheese on Korean ladder. LOL @ the cheese being figured out and he doesn't deserve GM. Watch Korean GM buddy, never will you have seen so much aggression in your life. difference is they win based on control and their opponents have to respect their late game as well because they are good players, which makes their allins stronger with this fuck if you figure out what hes doing he loses, its just a matter of figuring out which ridiculous risk hes taking in any given game.
and this mentality of yours had been keeping your ass beneath the Koreans. after you got told by rekrul so many years after that f91 series you still don't respect the game you play as your job. You still hasn't figure out what skill is in this game that is your job? skill is what wins games, you have no talent at this game if you don't recognize this.
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On April 07 2013 07:49 rei wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 04:15 IdrA wrote:On April 07 2013 03:02 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
MC and Parting don't take flak for doing basically the same thing, based around pure timings and micro.
I think people would be amazed at the cheese on Korean ladder. LOL @ the cheese being figured out and he doesn't deserve GM. Watch Korean GM buddy, never will you have seen so much aggression in your life. difference is they win based on control and their opponents have to respect their late game as well because they are good players, which makes their allins stronger with this fuck if you figure out what hes doing he loses, its just a matter of figuring out which ridiculous risk hes taking in any given game. and this mentality of yours had been keeping your ass beneath the Koreans. after you got told by rekrul so many years after that f91 series you still don't respect the game you play as your job. You still hasn't figure out what skill is in this game that is your job? skill is what wins games, you have no talent at this game if you don't recognize this.
What? His mentality seems perfectly sound, maybe you are just reading his response wrong? Seems like you just wanted to jump at any chance to attack Idra with things that don't even have any context with what he stated.
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it's perfectly sound to call someone "this fuck" based on a playing style? the context is he still doesn't respect this game 5 god damn years after f91 raped him and rekrul told him, if you go read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342 you would know exactly what I mean, and why it is relevant to the context.
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On April 06 2013 09:24 rei wrote:
i was hoping for a demonstration reaction to different builds on different scenarios, and I was also looking for how to deal with terran mid game harassment and zerg late game army.
out of all your games none has gone into late game, in fact i don't even see one game you actually took a 3rd, every game it's a 2 base timing or one base timing, that's all it takes to get into top 16gm, i don't believe it, where's the rest of your replays? you are hiding your real strategies. There are enough ppl in GM ladder that will not die to any of these timing builds for me to think you must make it up there with a one two punch that kept them guessing.
I've played him once and it went very late, and he didn't all-in..
+ Show Spoiler +And he lost, maybe due to inexperience in the lategame? )
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On April 07 2013 08:11 rei wrote:it's perfectly sound to call someone "this fuck" based on a playing style? the context is he still doesn't respect this game 5 god damn years after f91 raped him and rekrul told him, if you go read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342 you would know exactly what I mean, and why it is relevant to the context.
Don't worry, I've been around long enough to know that thread. I know exactly what you mean, but that would be like me bringing up Idra leaving against MMA when he was ahead or against Huk with hallucinated Void Rays. Of course there is some context with his actions, but I don't think its enough to just randomly start teeing off on him when he made a decent point. I'm just paying more attention to the first line he said that actually warrants discussion. The second line is just good old Idra, which apparently keeps you from seeing his relevant points. Anyways, I'm done arguing, have fun.
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On April 07 2013 04:15 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 03:02 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
MC and Parting don't take flak for doing basically the same thing, based around pure timings and micro.
I think people would be amazed at the cheese on Korean ladder. LOL @ the cheese being figured out and he doesn't deserve GM. Watch Korean GM buddy, never will you have seen so much aggression in your life. difference is they win based on control and their opponents have to respect their late game as well because they are good players, which makes their allins stronger with this fuck if you figure out what hes doing he loses, its just a matter of figuring out which ridiculous risk hes taking in any given game.
Thanks Idra...it is exactly what I meant! Nice to see someone thinks like me for once...maybe I just explained myself wrong but anyway...thanks 
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First of all, I appreciate the feedback and nice comments on the replays.
Regarding the debate that came up according to my playstyle, I must say that I mostly agree with what you guys say. The reason why koreans are the best of the best is basically what IdrA said (besides rigorous training schedule and making a living out of SC2). They are very good with timing attacks and all ins, and they can perfectly play a macro game, and thats what makes them unpredictable.
I consider myself having a hard time playing macro games mostly vs terran and protoss. I feel that terran mid game with their new medivac super fast drops are devastating and that's why as of now, I try to finish the game earlier. I know that the speed or something around the terran mid game will be nerfed soon, and that will incentivate me to play more macro oriented games vs them. Vs protoss I feel its a bit hard to play on 3 or more bases, there are usually some earlier engagements that just dont allow you to take expansions safely, and I try to take the most ouf of those earlier engagements. On the zerg matter, I have no problem in playing macro games vs them. In WoL I used to hate going late game vs zerg because of that bl + infestors comp, but that's no trouble anymore now.
I know that I must improve my mid-late game and macro play a lot, and I'll be working on that to become more unpredictable and a better player. I think that I'll even have a big of advantage because some players might overreact thinking I'll all in and I'd actually play a macro play. For now, just enjoy those reps haha.
Capoch
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Well said, Capoch. Your replays have been extremely useful to me and I'm sure to many of my Protoss brethren. Please release more in the future!
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GG Capoch! A big player of the team. Now you`ve to play Age II again
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Ahhh... its the same "only late game ability counts" crap. So Capoch posted a replay pack full of 2 base allins. So? The real strengh of a player is not his ability to allin/play 1 hour macro games. A player needs to adapt and change based on the situation. Fixation on a build, a playing style will cause a player to fall of the greed very fast. IMO Capoch can't be judged now (his top 16 position is 100% deserved as of right now), but later when opponents will learn how to deal with his builds and how he adapts to that.
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The comments in this thread alone have convinced me to cast at least one of these games
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On April 11 2013 10:09 Husky wrote:
The comments in this thread alone have convinced me to cast at least one of these games
why? and did you improve your game sense?
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and this mentality of yours had been keeping your ass beneath the Koreans. after you got told by rekrul so many years after that f91 series you still don't respect the game you play as your job. You still hasn't figure out what skill is in this game that is your job? skill is what wins games, you have no talent at this game if you don't recognize this.
I think you are missing the point. The point is Top Koreans can play any game, any time. Cheese, macro intensive, micro instesive,all in a seamless and fluid game. IdrA is making the point that these are fairly predictable (not bad ifyou win) timng attacks,an all timing attacks can be broken when scouted.
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On April 07 2013 11:22 Capoch wrote:
I know that I must improve my mid-late game and macro play a lot, and I'll be working on that to become more unpredictable and a better player. I think that I'll even have a big of advantage because some players might overreact thinking I'll all in and I'd actually play a macro play. For now, just enjoy those reps haha.
Capoch
Well said, great attitude towards the game and dealing with the ridiculous comments in this thread. I will be cheering for you in the WCS, best of luck.
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AoC player here too Hi Capoch, te recuerdo de aoc. Hemos jugado juntos más de una vez con mis smurfs haha. Saludos!!
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Good Work Capoch!! Cheers from Costa Rica. Is good to see that more Latin players are doing fine in the ladder hopefully we will have in the future a WCS just for Latin players (why not??). There are many types/styles of playing SC2(HOTS) some consider all-in players are not skill enough(I though that also a few months ago) but is more how you get more comfortable when playing a game been aggressive works for you and its fine, so don't pay attention to troll comments and continue your training, I know myself how difficult is for Latin players to defend or passion for SC in country's where there is not a Gaming Culture like in USA, Europe or Korea.
Buena Suerte Amigo!!
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Wait, what do you mean by sc2 is bit hard for people who live in Argentina?
Like money wise or latency, etc?
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On April 27 2013 00:18 LTY wrote:
Wait, what do you mean by sc2 is bit hard for people who live in Argentina?
Like money wise or latency, etc?
Not Argentina specifically, Latin country's in general, I am from Costa Rica. In USA, Europe, Korea you have sponsors, leagues, tourneys every weekend(amateur/semipro/pro) so you can compete at high level always, the quantity of active skill players is higher in USA than in all Latin country's by far, so for a Latin player to get a good level is more difficult, look Fenix(Peru), Major(Mexico) and Killer(Chile) they have to come to USA(Killer) or Korea (Fenix, Major) to get a decent training enviroment.
Also E-Sports in Latin Country's is still in the stereotype that if you play games you are lazy, no social skills, a freak which is not the case, many of the players here have to combine work, studies and SC which is not an easy combination but we do it cause we love SC and we want to show society that they are wrong and things are changing and E-Sports came to stay .
PD: Sorry for my english
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I really appeciate the replays. Even though im a high masters zerg player i feel as though i still benefit from this
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EPT
