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Top 50 streamers in March 2013 (HotS numbers!)

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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 21:30:03
April 02 2013 18:23 GMT
#1
Welcome to the monthly edition of the top 50 streamers list.

Last month saw the release of Heart of the Swarm, and I'm sure you all want to know what that did to the viewership numbers for the SC2 streams, so I'll get right to it!

Table of contents
  • Huh? What's this?
  • Top 50 streamers in March 2013
    • Sorted by avg. viewer
    • Sorted by avg. viewer * hours streamed
    • Stray observations
  • The big picture
  • Proleague vs. GSL
  • Older entries


Huh? What's this?

For those of you who don't already know what this is about: I'm gathering various data from all the streams that are presented on teamliquid.net (viewers, game, events, etc.) and use that data to produce the pretty tables you see below. The tables only contain SC2 players (that is, people streaming games of Starcraft 2 being played by the streamer themselves) and not casters, teams or other streams. The tables also only contain Starcraft 2 related activities. So CatZ streaming Dota2 will not be taken into account, for instance.

For live stream data, go and visit soiii's site http://sc2streamnumbers.com/ where you can check out detailed graphs of stream viewers of every stream. (Thread here). Please check it out, it's pretty awesome. I thought about doing something like that at some point, but soiii did it way better and prettier than I could've ever done.

The list


Due to space limitations, I have to shorten the headers and leave some data out of the tables presented here. You can get the full tables from the links below.
The headers aren't as clear as I'd like them to be thanks to this, so here's a quick explanation, just in case: "Viewers" denotes the average viewers in the given month. "Hours" are the hours played. "Place diff" and "Viewer diff" are the place and viewer differences compared to last month.

I have retired the HotS percentage bar. Teamliquid doesn't allow streamers to make the distinction between HotS and WoL any longer, and so far there's no need for that feature, anyhow: Absolutely nobody streams WoL.

Also, the HTML version linked beneath the images has some more information that I had to leave out due to space limitation, most notably the featured status of the players.

Now, Without further ado, here's this month's tables:

UPDATE: Added RotterdaM (minus recent ATC cast)! Apologies for overlooking him.

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(HTML version here)


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(HTML version here)


Stray observations

  • So many new viewers! Rejoice, Starcraft 2 isn't dead yet! We barely had one player peaking 10000 viewers in a month previously, and last month we had four. More on overall HotS numbers later.
  • Destiny's back! Well, not really, but he played some SC2 again, and he's still pretty popular. Initially it looked like he would end up taking the #1 spot, as he was the first to crack the 10000 viewer mark, but in the following days he got some pretty good competition. Still, that's not a bad result at all for a retired player.
  • While we're at it: It should be noted that a lot of players decided to try out (and stream) the Single Player campaign first. That's not quite what I intended this list to be for originally, but since this is a one-time (Well, one out of two times, actually) occurrence, I don't see a reason to do much about it.
  • The biggest loss this time around is clearly Jaedong. He's been in a steady decline ever since he started streaming (and dominating the list). While nearly everyone got lots of new viewers, he lost about 1300 last month. If you're one of those 1300, please let us know why you stopped watching him. I'm really curious about this one.
  • On the other end of the spectrum, we have some players who gained a significant number of new viewers, even considering the HotS launch: Ret went from an average viewership of 890 up to 2150, Catz went from 530 to 1630, and Incontrol and Sase also gained quite a number of new viewers. Congrats!
  • With MajOr streaming again, this marks the first time a KeSPA contracted player has ever appeared on one of the top 50 lists! (And, to my knowledge, the first time a KeSPA player has ever streamed SC2 on teamliquid, period. Correct me on this one if I'm wrong.)
  • I have no numbers on Artosis' stream, since he apparently wasn't listed on teamliquid. Sorry.
  • Notable absentees this month: MMA, DRG, SuperNova, HasuObs, Leenock, HyuN, Goody, Babyknight, Ganzi, ForGG.
  • If you find any mistakes or errors in the lists, please do let me know, especially concerning team changes or players that you are absolutely sure should be on the lists, but are not.


The big picture


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(The actual numbers are not important, it's the ratio between month that's important.)

We all expected a raise in total viewership, and we got one. But while the raise is significant compared to the previous month, it's barely noteworthy compared to April nearly one year ago. So that's cause for concern, right?

Wrong. Heart of the Swarm was released on the 12th, and the beta has ended by the 1st. So not a soul (other than the guys at IEM, of course) could stream HotS during that time. The bar that you see is the result of roughly 2/3 of a month's worth of streaming. So, basically, imagine that bar to be 1/3 larger than it actually is to get a more accurate image. Or just have a look at this:

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This is the same data, but broken down by day and not by month. And while the last graph shows a too bleak picture of HotS stream viewership, this one goes into the other direction: The WoL numbers you see here are lower than usual, since pretty much nobody cared about WoL any more days before HotS was released, and barely anyone streamed. Still, this shows a much more accurate representation of what happened once HotS was released: Loads of viewers! And, much more importantly, loads of viewers that kept watching streams all throughout the month.

With the exception of MLG, that is. That's the bump at the 16th and 17th. That's when there were over 100.000 people watching MLG... and when there was literally zero featured SC2 streamers online at times. Zero. Nada. They've all been watching MLG, too, presumably. And so did you.

Let's wait and see if the high numbers continue this month.


Proleague vs. GSL

Please take the GSL numbers below with a large grain of salt. The numbers below only reflect the twitch.tv viewer numbers, and do not count viewers that have watched GSL straight from gomtv.net. In addition, as always, the numbers below only reflect the official English streams of the corresponding events, and say nothing about Korean viewerships.

Still no GSTL viewers. Sorry!

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Not a whole lot to say, since there wasn't a whole lot going on last month. The Code S finals had slightly less viewers than the Ro4, but, as I said above, that can have many reasons, and is in no way an indication that they were less popular.

So that's all for this month.
Hope you guys enjoyed, as always. Any kind of feedback is always welcome!

Older entries
  • Top 50 streamers in February 2013 + Proleague/GSL
  • Top 50 streamers in Jan.2013+Proleague/GSL viewers
  • Top 50 streamers in Dec 2012 (plus Top 100 2012!*)
  • Top 50 streamers in November 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in October 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in September 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in August 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in July 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in June 2012
  • Top 50 streamers in May 2012
  • Who is the most popular streamer?(Numbers inside!) (March-April 2012)
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
April 02 2013 18:44 GMT
#2
Finally a non-zerg streamer breaking the 10k mark. Go Grubby!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 02 2013 18:48 GMT
#3
Love that you do these I look forward to it each time!
ibraishome
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany337 Posts
April 02 2013 18:57 GMT
#4
Very interesting again! Thank You!
But ForGG was actually streaming almost everyday, I think...
Xzilend
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada29 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 18:58:20
April 02 2013 18:57 GMT
#5
Pretty cool information! Thanks for sharing

Grubby for #1! ^_^
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MetalxStorm
Profile Joined January 2012
United States71 Posts
April 02 2013 19:00 GMT
#6
Very interesting stuff, keep up the good work
The Darkness Rides
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
April 02 2013 19:00 GMT
#7
This is so awesome, and thank you so much for doing this I always like checking up on threads like this. It is what make TL so epic. <3
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
April 02 2013 19:01 GMT
#8
Great work as always.

I´m looking forward for the trend to continue, Stephano´s stream already reached 14k yesterday, so if that is an indicator, April should be even better.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
April 02 2013 19:03 GMT
#9
Sadly only few Korean pros are streaming. I know, I know, they don't want to reveal builds'n'stuff, but I still miss them ever since Kespa started that trend.
Plus at my hours, there are very few Protoss streaming

Thanks for compiling the list!
Get off my lawn, young punks
KainiT
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria392 Posts
April 02 2013 19:03 GMT
#10
When Jaedong started streaming he played english mainstream pop. I didn't like that but could arrange with it to some extent but I just can't stand the kpop he listens to now.
Generally it seems that music is a big factor for getting lots of viewers.
With great power comes great responsibility.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 02 2013 19:03 GMT
#11
On April 03 2013 03:57 ibraishome wrote:
Very interesting again! Thank You!
But ForGG was actually streaming almost everyday, I think...

I was a bit confused by that myself, since he usually streams a ton of games. He did stream, but for last month he had an average of only 331 viewers, so he barely didn't make it in to the top 50 this time.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
April 02 2013 19:04 GMT
#12
Notable absentees this month: MMA, DRG, SuperNova, HasuObs, Leenock, HyuN, Goody, Babyknight, Ganzi, ForGG.


It's false ForGG is in your list ! ^_^
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 02 2013 19:06 GMT
#13
On April 03 2013 04:04 Aeromi wrote:
Notable absentees this month: MMA, DRG, SuperNova, HasuObs, Leenock, HyuN, Goody, Babyknight, Ganzi, ForGG.


It's false ForGG is in your list ! ^_^

D'oh. I usually just check the first list, since anyone who's not there but is in the second list usually isn't as notable. Alright, striking that.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
April 02 2013 19:07 GMT
#14
It's weird that forGG isn't getting more viewers, he is so awesome !
rly ?
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 19:10:18
April 02 2013 19:09 GMT
#15
"The Code S Finals had less viewers than the Code S Ro4 [...] that can have many reasons".

Well, it seems not many people liked ZvZ at this point, in a period that was filled with Z everywhere...

Great work anyway, the graphs are pretty cool news, there's a net gain in viewership !
LiquipediaWanderer
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 02 2013 19:11 GMT
#16
Heh imo the main reason jaedongs stream numbers are down is his stream has been dying a TON this month. Swear to god everytime I watch his stream dies randomly throughout the whole game. I keep watching but I imagine a ton of people stop watching cause it's a pain :/.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
April 02 2013 19:11 GMT
#17
On April 03 2013 04:07 algue wrote:
It's weird that forGG isn't getting more viewers, he is so awesome !



Maybe it's because he streams on Dailymotion and all the viewers are not count as viewers. It's like when Millenium Tv stream, there are 40 viewers on Team Liquid but 4000 viewers in fact.
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 19:16:57
April 02 2013 19:15 GMT
#18
Who is Tara Babcock, Filter and kaitlyn ? Never heard of those players...

edit : nevermind, ForGG is on the second list.

Anyway, thank you again for those threads. I'm looking forward to it every month.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 19:21:04
April 02 2013 19:20 GMT
#19
On April 03 2013 04:15 Serimek wrote:
Who is Tara Babcock, Filter and kaitlyn ? Never heard of those players...

kaitlyn is a popular streamer. You can see an interview of her here.

Filter is mostly known for his thread Bronze to Masters, Improving Mechanics, and I think he gets most of his viewers from that. But I'm not sure.

Tara Babcock.. er.. Google her. But only when your parents aren't looking.
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
April 02 2013 19:20 GMT
#20
Great job, thanks! It really looks poor for Proleague, now that EG-TL is in last place and they were bringing the majority of the viewers.. Hopefully they do better in the next round. Better english casters would help too. The format is too awsome to let it die!
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
April 02 2013 19:28 GMT
#21
On April 03 2013 04:20 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 04:15 Serimek wrote:
Who is Tara Babcock, Filter and kaitlyn ? Never heard of those players...

kaitlyn is a popular streamer. You can see an interview of her here.

Filter is mostly known for his thread Bronze to Masters, Improving Mechanics, and I think he gets most of his viewers from that. But I'm not sure.

Tara Babcock.. er.. Google her. But only when your parents aren't looking.


Ah ah ! I'm too old to live with my parents, but my girlfriend might be suspicious about me watching SC2 now... :p

Be that as it may, I'm quite confused that hundreds of nerds watch an SC2 stream to see boobs...
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
HappyZerGling
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Ukraine161 Posts
April 02 2013 19:45 GMT
#22
i'm in the list woot xd
happy me, happy skill, happy win :D twitch.tv/happyzerg https://twitter.com/HappyZerG1
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 19:49:55
April 02 2013 19:47 GMT
#23
Incontrol at place 19? What's wrong with you guys? His stream is so entertaining, the music is great and he's closer to the top than people give him credit for.

Glad to see the Grubster is so far up there. Love that guy.
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 02 2013 20:32 GMT
#24
Oh, one thing I forgot to mention: I also don't have viewer numbers of MC currently, since he's streaming with azubu.tv now. He's streaming right now. They're not yet linked from teamliquid, and I'm not sure if they even offer live viewer numbers.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 02 2013 20:35 GMT
#25
ForGG that streaming beast! He needs more viewers, but he is always streaming when I am at work... ;;
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
April 02 2013 20:43 GMT
#26
Look at all those players on Korean teams streaming.
Enel
Profile Joined April 2012
Sudan430 Posts
April 02 2013 20:43 GMT
#27
Sadly, Naniwa never streamed HotS.
Go Sudan
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
April 02 2013 21:01 GMT
#28
Awesome!
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 02 2013 21:29 GMT
#29
Updated the list!

I forgot RotterdaM! Well, I didn't quite forget him, I categorized him as a caster because I've seen him casting from his main account. Somehow I thought he was casting more events than just the Acer Team Cup.

He's in the list now, minus the casting viewer numbers, of course. Sorry for that!
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
April 02 2013 23:43 GMT
#30
u fucking genius i love you
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foccault
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada3 Posts
April 03 2013 01:40 GMT
#31
Lol. Dragon streamed over 211 hours, that guy is a machine.
nil admirari
FrogsAreDogs
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada181 Posts
April 03 2013 05:22 GMT
#32
I was one of the people who used to watch Jaedong's stream,but he has actually got worse, so I stopped watching =|
YO
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
April 03 2013 05:43 GMT
#33
LOL @ Destiny taking 4th just like that. Majority of those hours are not sc2 afaik but that 10 k peak was right? And Artosis is 6th beating people like Demuslim, Naniwa and TLO? It's a shame he is on in the middle of the working day here. I would watch 100%. He has always been super educational when I've had a chance to take a glance.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 05:52:51
April 03 2013 05:49 GMT
#34
Jeez Dragon, 211 hours of Starcraft in a month. That is like 50+ hours a week. No wonder he got carpal tunnel. The last few days he has been usually streaming from when I wake up until about supper time my time, basically through the whole night in Korea. It is crazy because it is light when he starts, turns dark out, then is light again when he quits. It works fine for me because I just leave it on all day and tune in when I am not doing something. He has been quite entertaining.

It is crazy how much his stream has grown. I remember when he first started (way back before it was normal for Korean pros to stream) and there were like 10 people watching and trying to tell him his stream was working because he thought it was broken, and within a few hours once the word spread that a dude from Slayers was streaming he got a huge number of viewers. That initial popularity hasn't gone away as he can still draw a pretty good crowd. He definitely deserves it with the number of hours he puts in.

Edit: Holy crap ForGG putting in WORK
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 03 2013 05:53 GMT
#35
still can't get my head wrapped around teamless nony...
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TritaN
Profile Joined December 2010
United States406 Posts
April 03 2013 06:11 GMT
#36
On April 03 2013 14:49 Ben... wrote:
Jeez Dragon, 211 hours of Starcraft in a month. That is like 50+ hours a week. No wonder he got carpal tunnel. The last few days he has been usually streaming from when I wake up until about supper time my time, basically through the whole night in Korea. It is crazy because it is light when he starts, turns dark out, then is light again when he quits. It works fine for me because I just leave it on all day and tune in when I am not doing something. He has been quite entertaining.

It is crazy how much his stream has grown. I remember when he first started (way back before it was normal for Korean pros to stream) and there were like 10 people watching and trying to tell him his stream was working because he thought it was broken, and within a few hours once the word spread that a dude from Slayers was streaming he got a huge number of viewers. That initial popularity hasn't gone away as he can still draw a pretty good crowd. He definitely deserves it with the number of hours he puts in.



Not only that, but he's by far the most entertaining streamer on the list.

The guy stripped down to a bikini and danced to Lady Gaga - Poker Face on stream. You can't make that shit up.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 03 2013 07:22 GMT
#37
On April 03 2013 14:43 d00p wrote:
LOL @ Destiny taking 4th just like that. Majority of those hours are not sc2 afaik but that 10 k peak was right? And Artosis is 6th beating people like Demuslim, Naniwa and TLO? It's a shame he is on in the middle of the working day here. I would watch 100%. He has always been super educational when I've had a chance to take a glance.

All the hours displayed in the list are SC2, actually. It's possible that Destiny (or any other streamer) might have forgotten to switch from SC2 to LoL in their streamer-interface on teamliquid, however. That tends to happen now and again, just like some streamers forgot to switch from HotS back to WoL while the beta was down, as you can see in the graph for March.
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
April 03 2013 08:08 GMT
#38
Ah, i enjoy these list so mutch, thanks for it!

Ah finally the Top 2 isn't taken by EG players.
Grubby stream was awesome last month. I hope i continue streaming as mutch as this!

And sad that ForGG isn't in the 50, he players & streams so mutch. Hope he will get more viewers.

<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
April 03 2013 09:31 GMT
#39
Stephano has quite a following o_O

viva la france
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 03 2013 11:29 GMT
#40
The only mistake I noticed was "The Special" you've listed in WoL colours yet it was a HoTS thing.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
April 03 2013 11:38 GMT
#41
212 hours streamed for Hui. Seriously, why the fuck isn't he featured yet.

For Artosis you're going to want to switch the team to TT Esports like WhiteRa since he's officially part of the "TT Esports family" and has stated many times that his stream is mainly available thanks to TT Esports whether you believe that's honest or superficial.

Jaedong's stream isn't peaking anymore because all the SC2 bandwagon has winded down since he's not winning anything :x
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
April 03 2013 11:56 GMT
#42
What I get from this is that basically all EG members are just ladder streaming machines and pretty much never win any tournaments in recent memory.

EG must be forcing them to do so, can't be explained otherwise ;p
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 03 2013 11:58 GMT
#43
On April 03 2013 20:56 Psychobabas wrote:
What I get from this is that basically all EG members are just ladder streaming machines and pretty much never win any tournaments in recent memory.

EG must be forcing them to do so, can't be explained otherwise ;p


I think if anything they chose to do it themselves as it's their main form of income if I understand correctly?
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
April 03 2013 12:00 GMT
#44
On April 03 2013 20:58 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 20:56 Psychobabas wrote:
What I get from this is that basically all EG members are just ladder streaming machines and pretty much never win any tournaments in recent memory.

EG must be forcing them to do so, can't be explained otherwise ;p


I think if anything they chose to do it themselves as it's their main form of income if I understand correctly?


Or they're required to stream a certain amount of hours for their contracts.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 12:03:04
April 03 2013 12:02 GMT
#45
On April 03 2013 20:56 Psychobabas wrote:
What I get from this is that basically all EG members are just ladder streaming machines and pretty much never win any tournaments in recent memory.

EG must be forcing them to do so, can't be explained otherwise ;p


EG had been streaming machines since the beginning of sc2 when they were winning a lot of tournaments. More likely they have a much more convenient environment.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 18:43:21
April 04 2013 18:38 GMT
#46
On April 03 2013 21:02 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 20:56 Psychobabas wrote:
What I get from this is that basically all EG members are just ladder streaming machines and pretty much never win any tournaments in recent memory.

EG must be forcing them to do so, can't be explained otherwise ;p


EG had been streaming machines since the beginning of sc2 when they were winning a lot of tournaments. More likely they have a much more convenient environment.


If I got IdrA's stream viewer numbers, I'd stream like a mother fucker. Wasn't the figure floating around that you get 1 USD per ad for every 1k viewers? If he streams 4 hours a day, has 2 adds playing four times an hour and consistently 7k viewers, that's some sweet moolah.

Imagine getting payed 50+ USD an hour playing a game while receiving a generous salary from your team without having any living expenses. The dude will be balling all through college.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 06 2013 06:12 GMT
#47
"The Code S finals had slightly less viewers than the Ro4, but, as I said above, that can have many reasons, and is in no way an indication that they were less popular."


B-b-but it is?! That's the whole point of measuring metrics.
The heart's eternal vow
macaronix49z
Profile Joined November 2012
Philippines8 Posts
April 06 2013 07:12 GMT
#48
Nice Stats, You could see the beta decline and comeback of HotS Viewers. "Destiny, Retired..." would it be better if theres no more Retired o_O
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 06 2013 21:53 GMT
#49
On April 03 2013 20:29 Qikz wrote:
The only mistake I noticed was "The Special" you've listed in WoL colours yet it was a HoTS thing.

Actually, the colors in that graph are to differentiate between GSL/eSF and Proleague/KeSPA. Probably should change the colors to make that more obvious, though.

On April 06 2013 15:12 PVJ wrote:
"The Code S finals had slightly less viewers than the Ro4, but, as I said above, that can have many reasons, and is in no way an indication that they were less popular."


B-b-but it is?! That's the whole point of measuring metrics.

You know the saying about only believing the statistics you falsified yourself, right? Even disregarding the various caveats for statistics in general, this one on particular is not ideal due to the various factors I mentioned in the OP. A laggy twitch.tv stream sends people to gomtv.net, whose viewer numbers are not counted, for instance.

On April 06 2013 16:12 macaronix49z wrote:
Nice Stats, You could see the beta decline and comeback of HotS Viewers. "Destiny, Retired..." would it be better if theres no more Retired o_O

As far as I know, he's still retired and has no interest in getting back to becoming a SC2 pro. He played the game for fun. Though that might always change in the future.
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
April 07 2013 10:01 GMT
#50
Im pretty sure I saw Stephano have above 13,000 a week or two ago
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 07 2013 10:20 GMT
#51
Really noticed the numbers pick up dramatically with HotS, cool to see this, thanks!!
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
April 08 2013 11:46 GMT
#52
Can't believe I forgot about your thread this month thank you so much <3 for this !
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 08 2013 12:03 GMT
#53
On April 03 2013 04:03 ACrow wrote:
Sadly only few Korean pros are streaming. I know, I know, they don't want to reveal builds'n'stuff, but I still miss them ever since Kespa started that trend.
Plus at my hours, there are very few Protoss streaming

Thanks for compiling the list!

hm, between grubby, sase and sage i can almost always find a good protoss streaming. what time are you wanting to watch?
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
April 09 2013 16:15 GMT
#54
Hey Conti, http://sc2streamnumbers.com/ has gone down
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
CamoPillbox
Profile Joined April 2012
Czech Republic229 Posts
April 09 2013 16:20 GMT
#55
We need 10k viewers on Dragon stream to watch next bikini dance :D More fun More Dragon .
Czech Terran(Hots) player
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 09 2013 16:26 GMT
#56
On April 10 2013 01:15 FXOdesRow wrote:
Hey Conti, http://sc2streamnumbers.com/ has gone down

Hmm, that's not my site, actually. You gotta poke soiii for that (see his thread here).
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 09 2013 16:31 GMT
#57
On April 03 2013 20:38 Gamegene wrote:
212 hours streamed for Hui. Seriously, why the fuck isn't he featured yet.

For Artosis you're going to want to switch the team to TT Esports like WhiteRa since he's officially part of the "TT Esports family" and has stated many times that his stream is mainly available thanks to TT Esports whether you believe that's honest or superficial.

Jaedong's stream isn't peaking anymore because all the SC2 bandwagon has winded down since he's not winning anything :x


Has he even listed his stream here on TL? If yes, the 800+ average viewers he is getting should qualify for him being featured.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
April 09 2013 16:32 GMT
#58
On April 10 2013 01:31 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 20:38 Gamegene wrote:
212 hours streamed for Hui. Seriously, why the fuck isn't he featured yet.

For Artosis you're going to want to switch the team to TT Esports like WhiteRa since he's officially part of the "TT Esports family" and has stated many times that his stream is mainly available thanks to TT Esports whether you believe that's honest or superficial.

Jaedong's stream isn't peaking anymore because all the SC2 bandwagon has winded down since he's not winning anything :x


Has he even listed his stream here on TL? If yes, the 800+ average viewers he is getting should qualify for him being featured.


He's been listed on TL since 2011 lol.

Extremely ridiculous that he hasn't been featured this entire time. Seriously TL if you're reading this wtf.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 09 2013 16:50 GMT
#59
On April 10 2013 01:32 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 01:31 JustPassingBy wrote:
On April 03 2013 20:38 Gamegene wrote:
212 hours streamed for Hui. Seriously, why the fuck isn't he featured yet.

For Artosis you're going to want to switch the team to TT Esports like WhiteRa since he's officially part of the "TT Esports family" and has stated many times that his stream is mainly available thanks to TT Esports whether you believe that's honest or superficial.

Jaedong's stream isn't peaking anymore because all the SC2 bandwagon has winded down since he's not winning anything :x


Has he even listed his stream here on TL? If yes, the 800+ average viewers he is getting should qualify for him being featured.


He's been listed on TL since 2011 lol.

Extremely ridiculous that he hasn't been featured this entire time. Seriously TL if you're reading this wtf.

He seems to get most of his viewers from Taiwan and outside of teamliquid, so it's understandable not to have him featured. He would most likely get the same amount of viewers if he were not listed here.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
April 09 2013 17:10 GMT
#60
On April 10 2013 01:50 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 01:32 Gamegene wrote:
On April 10 2013 01:31 JustPassingBy wrote:
On April 03 2013 20:38 Gamegene wrote:
212 hours streamed for Hui. Seriously, why the fuck isn't he featured yet.

For Artosis you're going to want to switch the team to TT Esports like WhiteRa since he's officially part of the "TT Esports family" and has stated many times that his stream is mainly available thanks to TT Esports whether you believe that's honest or superficial.

Jaedong's stream isn't peaking anymore because all the SC2 bandwagon has winded down since he's not winning anything :x


Has he even listed his stream here on TL? If yes, the 800+ average viewers he is getting should qualify for him being featured.


He's been listed on TL since 2011 lol.

Extremely ridiculous that he hasn't been featured this entire time. Seriously TL if you're reading this wtf.

He seems to get most of his viewers from Taiwan and outside of teamliquid, so it's understandable not to have him featured. He would most likely get the same amount of viewers if he were not listed here.


might as well get rid of the russian streams from sctv defiler and snipealot2 since a lot of the viewers are chinese zzz
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
GimliGloin
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada24 Posts
April 09 2013 17:24 GMT
#61
Are there some streams that normally don't show up on the featured list? I lurk pretty frequently on TL and haven't noticed Tajea/Bomber/Major/Hyun on the side.
"Nestea. We're all just Nestea. The weird thing is, Nestea is Nestea in real life. And we just pretend to be him in this video game."
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 09 2013 17:39 GMT
#62
On April 10 2013 02:24 GimliGloin wrote:
Are there some streams that normally don't show up on the featured list? I lurk pretty frequently on TL and haven't noticed Tajea/Bomber/Major/Hyun on the side.

You can have a look at the HTML lists to see which streams are featured and which aren't. All the players you mentioned are featured, they probably just stream at times inconvenient for your time zone.
Lathund
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden95 Posts
April 09 2013 20:36 GMT
#63
More people should watch SaSe. Only streamer to play Björn Rosenström (Although he has a new playlist today it seems) which should be reason enough. Oh, and some neat micro
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 20:37:55
April 09 2013 20:37 GMT
#64
Who is Hui? I see him on this chart every month, and I've never heard of him, let alone see his stream anywhere.
Refer to my post.
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
April 09 2013 20:37 GMT
#65
i guess sc2hots is bringing more viewers which is good.
http://twitter.com/PiQLiQ
Ry2D2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States429 Posts
April 09 2013 21:13 GMT
#66
Is the proleague vs GSL stream viewers just on twitch? Because Proleague has 2 non twitch streams running at the same time as their twitch one with the same content and GOM has the direct embed (not twitch) stream on their site so I'm curious if those stats account for these.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 09 2013 21:22 GMT
#67
Stephano mass streaming his ladder play on NA :o not sure it's good practice for him
Terran & Potato Salad.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 09 2013 21:24 GMT
#68
On April 10 2013 06:22 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Stephano mass streaming his ladder play on NA :o not sure it's good practice for him


Well he wont' play on KR due to latency so I don't think it matters either way.
When I think of something else, something will go here
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 09 2013 21:42 GMT
#69
On April 10 2013 06:13 Ry2D2 wrote:
Is the proleague vs GSL stream viewers just on twitch? Because Proleague has 2 non twitch streams running at the same time as their twitch one with the same content and GOM has the direct embed (not twitch) stream on their site so I'm curious if those stats account for these.

It's just for twitch AFAIK, so they're largely irrelevant. I don't know why people even look at them for anything.
Mvrio
Profile Joined July 2011
689 Posts
April 09 2013 21:43 GMT
#70
let's go destiny!!
On October 03 2011 Jinsho wrote: Everyone is just a speck of fly dirt on the wall compared to Greg playing at his best :D
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 09 2013 21:46 GMT
#71
On April 10 2013 05:37 Zenbrez wrote:
Who is Hui? I see him on this chart every month, and I've never heard of him, let alone see his stream anywhere.

Hui is a Taiwanese player, he's mostly playing in the (Wiki)Taiwan eSports League, and his fanbase seems to be mostly outside of Teamliquid. That's why he's not featured despite the viewer numbers.

I probably should add a section talking about the lesser known streamers or something.

On April 10 2013 06:13 Ry2D2 wrote:
Is the proleague vs GSL stream viewers just on twitch? Because Proleague has 2 non twitch streams running at the same time as their twitch one with the same content and GOM has the direct embed (not twitch) stream on their site so I'm curious if those stats account for these.

Yes, it's just twtich.tv viewers, as I explained in the Proleague/GSL section.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12874 Posts
April 09 2013 21:50 GMT
#72
I still don't get why ForGG has so little avg viewers, there must be a bug because of daylimotion, otherwise it's sad.
WriterMaru
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 09 2013 21:53 GMT
#73
On April 10 2013 06:50 Poopi wrote:
I still don't get why ForGG has so little avg viewers, there must be a bug because of daylimotion, otherwise it's sad.

I'm sure it's not a bug. What has he done to gain a fanbase, besides ask Rachael to kiss him that one time or something?
Refer to my post.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
April 10 2013 03:52 GMT
#74
On April 10 2013 06:53 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 06:50 Poopi wrote:
I still don't get why ForGG has so little avg viewers, there must be a bug because of daylimotion, otherwise it's sad.

I'm sure it's not a bug. What has he done to gain a fanbase, besides ask Rachael to kiss him that one time or something?


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Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44317 Posts
April 10 2013 03:55 GMT
#75
EG kicking ass as always :D Woot ^^
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