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2.0.4 FAQ: Unranked, Bonus Pool, Leave League - Page 2

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NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
March 01 2013 11:20 GMT
#21
So leaving league resets your MMR?
TmzZ666
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland144 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 11:32:28
March 01 2013 11:30 GMT
#22
Im liking the new changes in general, but how about giving us some stats, like:
- matchup winrate,
- map winrate,
- matchup map winrate,
Put it on loading screen plus some tab in a profile to browse?
Easy stuff and so much helpful. Anyone on this?

EDIT:
And vs players history if applicable. I would love them stats!
Replicats
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada18 Posts
March 01 2013 12:05 GMT
#23
I started playing unranked in WoL and noticed the matchmaker began matching me against bronze and silver players, so I think it might not be working the way they said. I feel like I'm playing new placement with my unranked, everyone I've played against so far has been Plat or below and my mmr is much higher than that.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
March 01 2013 12:10 GMT
#24
On March 01 2013 20:30 TmzZ666 wrote:
Im liking the new changes in general, but how about giving us some stats, like:
- matchup winrate,
- map winrate,
- matchup map winrate,
Put it on loading screen plus some tab in a profile to browse?
Easy stuff and so much helpful. Anyone on this?

EDIT:
And vs players history if applicable. I would love them stats!


You haven't checked your profile page right...? There are already map and MU stats in patch 2.0.4.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Deckard.666
Profile Joined September 2012
152 Posts
March 01 2013 12:42 GMT
#25
On March 01 2013 17:58 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Q: Is the Bonus Pool accumulation rate different after 2.0.4?
A: No. It's still 90 per week for Master/Grandmaster, 52.2 per week for lower leagues, 66% of the normal rate for Arranged 2v2, and 33% of the normal rate for Arranged 3v3/4v4.


That is going to become outdated rather quickly. It's going to double once 2013 Season 2 starts (Source). Other than that, nicely done.
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
March 01 2013 12:50 GMT
#26
i doubt unranked uses a similar MMR as starting point or MMR at all... as in WoL im a top 100 GM, and in unranked WoL i get bronze-gold players in the first few times I tried for unranked.
Deckard.666
Profile Joined September 2012
152 Posts
March 01 2013 12:58 GMT
#27
On March 01 2013 21:50 KiF1rE wrote:
i doubt unranked uses a similar MMR as starting point or MMR at all... as in WoL im a top 100 GM, and in unranked WoL i get bronze-gold players in the first few times I tried for unranked.


Maybe it works differently in WoL and the HotS beta. In the beta, I got demolished when I tried to offrace, getting matched against master opponents because I'm masters in ranked. My MMR quickly dropped around platinum, and then stabilized.
DueleR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States207 Posts
March 01 2013 13:27 GMT
#28
The one semi-annoying thing about playing ranked ladder now is that I seem to face a lot more players picking random, who I assume are mostly playing unranked.
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 13:48:07
March 01 2013 13:47 GMT
#29
Just to be sure. I have two profile in plat, and my wife want to test sc2 in multi (before she was just playing against AI). Now with "leaving league", could i sent one of my profile into bronze ?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
March 01 2013 13:51 GMT
#30
On March 01 2013 22:47 Wertheron wrote:
Just to be sure. I have two profile in plat, and my wife want to test sc2 in multi (before she was just playing against AI). Now with "leaving league", could i sent one of my profile into bronze ?


Two 1v1 ladders? That doesn't seem likely. Or are you talking about 2v2?
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
March 01 2013 13:55 GMT
#31
On March 01 2013 22:51 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 22:47 Wertheron wrote:
Just to be sure. I have two profile in plat, and my wife want to test sc2 in multi (before she was just playing against AI). Now with "leaving league", could i sent one of my profile into bronze ?


Two 1v1 ladders? That doesn't seem likely. Or are you talking about 2v2?


Yes i have two accounts in Plat 1v1. I wanted to demote the training account (now i have unranked to play without pressure) for her in bronze. If "leaving league" is faster than 54 free looses, could be cool
damahammer
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany111 Posts
March 01 2013 14:59 GMT
#32
every change is good, especially faster eating through the bonus pool and leave league.
Except there is one thing which is just horrid: unranked and ranked matchmaking puts them against each other, and the guy playing ranked gets the points.... that is stupid and needs to be removed
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
March 01 2013 15:36 GMT
#33
I'm in Diamond and I played a Unranked match against a Bronze opponent..
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
March 01 2013 15:59 GMT
#34
I think Unranked in the Ranked player pool with just have an advantage for the Ranked player. I know that I'll be using Unranked play to practice my off races, which are Bronze/Silver level compared to my Platinum level Zerg play. I'll probably lose Unranked games and I'm okay with that, but hopefully that initial boost of ranked players doesn't stay for too long
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
March 01 2013 16:42 GMT
#35
On March 01 2013 18:12 zenkicker wrote:
Q: For example I am at Gold in Ranked play the left the league and played Unranked all throughout the season (or forever), will my MMR change and can be matched with Diamond/Masters assuming I really increased my skills?


Yes. Supposedly, anyway.

On March 01 2013 18:26 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
Is the portrait border visible/displayed when I start a ranked game and the map is being loaded? What about unraked and team games? Can we see based on this the league of our opponent?


It always shows your 1v1 Ranked position. If it's supposed to reflect the mode you're currently queued for, it's not doing that now.

Is this really true?
For me the unranked mmr seems to start with a clean table regardless of my ranked mmr.
First I get matched with bronze-silver and then after 10-15 straight wins it's diamond/masters again.
It was same for both my US and EU accounts.
My US account had ~50 ranked games played this season and solid diamond ranking.
My EU account had no ranked games played this season (1 placement match) low masters last season.


It's supposed to use your current Ranked MMR as a reference point in that case, yes.

On March 01 2013 18:37 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Im facing silvers/gold in unranked and Im a master in ranked 1v1.

also if Im facing ranked players when im playing unranked, isnt it possible to drop mmr by offracing or leave on purpose and then use that in my ranked matches to get a higher rank because I now get to play way below my actual mmr?


No, because if you're Silver Unranked and Master Ranked, then when you queue for Ranked, you would be facing other Master players and wouldn't get matched with anyone in Silver. They're separate.

On March 01 2013 19:04 Soundwave12 wrote:
sounds good my only concern with the leave league thing is this. Wont it make it quite easy to smurf? For example a diamond who want to have some "fun" ripping up bronzes leaves leagues, loses placement matches, places in bronze and there we go. If he want to go back to diamond he'll be there in a week since he'll just crush everything game after game up till he hits high plat...

and wouldnt this make portrait farming quite easy too, with the same technique... if you are a decent player you just go for it, once you get to much competition, leave league and restart from bronze...


It's not much easier than the method a lot of players used to use, which was to intentionally lose dozens of games to get to the bottom of Bronze and then gradually work their way back up again. In that regard, Leave League is basically just a timesaver. We still need to know whether 1 or 5 Placements is intended though (I asked PressureTested to Leave League and it only gave him one Placement).

On March 01 2013 19:25 onPHYRE wrote:
In the beta leave league gave me 1 placement match, but in WoL after the patch it gives me 5. Though granted I wasn't placed the season before so that might have an effect on it, such that if you had to play 5 placement matches to start the season, leave league gives 5 placement matches, but if you only had to do 1, then it gives 1.. I dunno my theory based on limited information.


I have a working theory on this which might fit. Did you have any Unranked games played when you hit Leave League? It's possible that it was using your Unranked MMR as a starting point for Ranked, which would explain the one Placement Match. This would also fit with PressureTested's one Placement Match (he had played one Unranked game to establish his Unranked MMR). I'd like to do more data collection on this.

On March 01 2013 19:31 battleboy wrote:
Does the bonuspool only drops for losing in HotS or also in WoL now?


As of 2.0.4, WoL as well.

On March 01 2013 20:30 TmzZ666 wrote:
Im liking the new changes in general, but how about giving us some stats, like:
- matchup winrate,
- map winrate,
- matchup map winrate,
Put it on loading screen plus some tab in a profile to browse?
Easy stuff and so much helpful. Anyone on this?

EDIT:
And vs players history if applicable. I would love them stats!


That's already in, aside from the stats against individual players. That could be a neat idea.

On March 01 2013 21:42 Deckard.666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 17:58 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Q: Is the Bonus Pool accumulation rate different after 2.0.4?
A: No. It's still 90 per week for Master/Grandmaster, 52.2 per week for lower leagues, 66% of the normal rate for Arranged 2v2, and 33% of the normal rate for Arranged 3v3/4v4.


That is going to become outdated rather quickly. It's going to double once 2013 Season 2 starts (Source). Other than that, nicely done.


I thought they had backpedaled on that but if they stick with it, I'll update the OP.



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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
March 01 2013 17:23 GMT
#36
This is weird.

I am master in Ranked but I'm playing against some really, really bad players in Unranked. A guy didn't even build orbital command for his 1-base-4-barracks-1-factory-1-starport-no-attack play.

I thought the MMR carries over to unranked?

Does this mean I have to keep playing until I face people closer to my league in unranked?
Deckard.666
Profile Joined September 2012
152 Posts
March 01 2013 17:30 GMT
#37
That 4/1/1 play is deadly, man. I don't know what you're talking about.


Seriously though, it seems like there's an issue in WoL where the MMR doesn't carry over to unraked. In HotS it certainly does. Were you playing WoL or HotS?
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 17:37:16
March 01 2013 17:34 GMT
#38
On March 02 2013 01:42 Excalibur_Z wrote:

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 19:25 onPHYRE wrote:
In the beta leave league gave me 1 placement match, but in WoL after the patch it gives me 5. Though granted I wasn't placed the season before so that might have an effect on it, such that if you had to play 5 placement matches to start the season, leave league gives 5 placement matches, but if you only had to do 1, then it gives 1.. I dunno my theory based on limited information.


I have a working theory on this which might fit. Did you have any Unranked games played when you hit Leave League? It's possible that it was using your Unranked MMR as a starting point for Ranked, which would explain the one Placement Match. This would also fit with PressureTested's one Placement Match (he had played one Unranked game to establish his Unranked MMR). I'd like to do more data collection on this.



I had played an unranked game in both the HotS Beta and in WoL when I did leave league, but it had a different amount of placement matches between the two. The only difference is I was ranked in 1v1 in HotS Beta, and had played 2v2 the season before in HotS Beta. While in WoL before now my last ladder game was almost a year ago so everything was reset. To clarify in the WoL instance I played 2v2 with a friend and we both left the league and had 5 placement matches. Meanwhile in HotS Beta I played 1v1 and 2v2 RT, with past season MMR still active (unlike WoL which was reset completely) and I left both 1v1 and 2v2 leagues at least 15 times, and it was always just 1 placement match. My MMR did not seem to reset in either WoL or HotS Beta either, based on the competition, and despite the difference in placement match requirements.

Edit: As a weird and random side note, I noticed some wonky stuff with my unranked MMR translating to my ranked MMR (which I know is not supposed to happen). Me and a buddy went 10-0 in unranked before we started ladder, starting vs bronzies and playing masters by the end. Despite my account being reset and him not being very highly ranked (like silver MMR) we started of vs masters players right away in our placement matches. Found that very strange since my MMR was reset (was masters 1v1 and 2v2/3v3/4v4 before).
Livin' this life like it was written.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
March 01 2013 17:41 GMT
#39
On March 02 2013 02:30 Deckard.666 wrote:
That 4/1/1 play is deadly, man. I don't know what you're talking about.


Seriously though, it seems like there's an issue in WoL where the MMR doesn't carry over to unraked. In HotS it certainly does. Were you playing WoL or HotS?


WoL
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
March 01 2013 17:44 GMT
#40
Q: How do I get one of those cool portrait borders and what do they mean?
A: The portrait borders reflect your 1v1 league. If you don't have one, it's because you're not in a Ranked 1v1 division. This border persists into team games as well as chat channels.

This is a really good idea for team games and ums since it will make frantically looking at all the profiles of my teammates in a monobattles lobby a thing of the past.

I really like a lot of the other changes too, just more steps in the right direction in my opinion.
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