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Bisutopia19371 Posts
It's about choosing what's most important to him. I'm ok with it as long as he doesn't get an invite back. He will have to earn his way back in. That's life and that's fair.
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On March 01 2013 03:22 Yhamm wrote:
When Rain forfeited his code S spot for MLG, did you wish GOM would ban him too?
I did.
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Canada13410 Posts
On March 01 2013 03:58 opterown wrote:
haha the GOM-bashing is ridiculous
I know it makes no sense. This is Stephano's choice. He would rather play a tourney where he is more likely to win and where he gains more exposure to the foreign market, one he represents. Lets also not forget this is the IEM finals for this season isn't it? Culminating from circuit points gained over the course of the year, vs the chance to be in Code S for another season and probably not win it later.
On March 01 2013 04:08 BisuDagger wrote:
It's about choosing what's most important to him. I'm ok with it as long as he doesn't get an invite back. He will have to earn his way back in. That's life and that's fair.
He still has a Code A spot, up to him to use it or not.
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On March 01 2013 04:06 GunSec wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 03:52 Serinox wrote:On March 01 2013 03:48 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:45 Aunvilgod wrote:On March 01 2013 03:00 Jakkerr wrote:On March 01 2013 02:56 SoOJuuu wrote:
foreigners get spots and give them up.
I bet this really frustrates korean gamers that are trying to make it.
Very disappointing in stephano. Playing at IEM is way more interesting for Stephano than GSL. But not for us fans. It is a much bigger accomplishment to get into Code S than place high at IEM where he won´t even necessarily meet the best koreans. Lets see which is more important: World championship with a prize pool of $100,000.00 that was announced months ago. Qualifying match for the GSL. Prize pool: Might get taken to lunch by one of the casters because its fun. I am not sure which one I would pick... You realize that in GSL you always get money for a season? It's not as much as IEM, but it's more than just a meal lol Oh I didnt know that, how much is that? In the hundreds of dollars or maybe thousands of dollars? I always thought top 32 get paid some
Just by being in Code S you get about $1400. Coincidentally, by placing last in your group at the upcoming IEM you would also get about $1400. It wasn't really about the money, EG would want him in Germany simply for exposure.
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On March 01 2013 04:07 Alryk wrote:Meh. He'll still be in code A at least. Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 04:07 Eury wrote:On March 01 2013 03:59 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:54 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On March 01 2013 03:32 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this. They should ban Rain too, and Grubby for skipping out on their matches for other events. Its disgrace that these players don't just drop everything when GSL sets their match on the same day as another event. They should play in their qualifying matches for GSL and forfit the events where they would win real money. We all know that qualifying for the GSL is more important than anything. HE shouldnt accept invitation in that case. Naniwa or Huk never forfeited their matches. And Rain never should have tried to qualify if he wasn't going to play EVERY SINGLE GAME. Same with Grubby. They should be banned forever and never allowed in GSL for leaving. They should walk to the other side of the street if they see a GSL player or caster, head bowed in shame. If Huk forfits a match because he is going to his own wedding, banned for life. You play every single game, that is how passion works. So in your little world GOM has no responsibility when they straight out of the blue changes Grubby's play date by a month? Disregarding any plans and money Grubby has already invested in tournaments and plane tickets? I almost starting to look forward to KESPA taking everything over in HotS. Dude... it's called sarcasm... :O Unless you were trying to quote zerox I guess, but then why not just quote him? XD
In this thread it is hard to tell.
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On March 01 2013 04:05 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 03:59 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:54 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On March 01 2013 03:32 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this. They should ban Rain too, and Grubby for skipping out on their matches for other events. Its disgrace that these players don't just drop everything when GSL sets their match on the same day as another event. They should play in their qualifying matches for GSL and forfit the events where they would win real money. We all know that qualifying for the GSL is more important than anything. HE shouldnt accept invitation in that case. Naniwa or Huk never forfeited their matches. And Rain never should have tried to qualify if he wasn't going to play EVERY SINGLE GAME. Same with Grubby. They should be banned forever and never allowed in GSL for leaving. They should walk to the other side of the street if they see a GSL player or caster, head bowed in shame. If Huk forfits a match because he is going to his own wedding, banned for life. You play every single game, that is how passion works. Looks like real-life doesnt exists :D Please tell me you are not serious about the wedding.
Of course I'm not serious at all. I am mocking the people who are freaking out about Stephano forfiting a qualifying match for one event to go play in the World Championship for another event. If this were anythign else but GSL, no one would care. But for some reason, if the GSL set a match for the same date you were already planning to go to another event, you should cancel your plans and play in GSL.
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On March 01 2013 04:08 Growiel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 03:22 Yhamm wrote:
When Rain forfeited his code S spot for MLG, did you wish GOM would ban him too?
I did.
Never a ban, just give never a seed or any bonus again to that player.
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On March 01 2013 04:03 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 03:59 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:54 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On March 01 2013 03:32 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this. They should ban Rain too, and Grubby for skipping out on their matches for other events. Its disgrace that these players don't just drop everything when GSL sets their match on the same day as another event. They should play in their qualifying matches for GSL and forfit the events where they would win real money. We all know that qualifying for the GSL is more important than anything. HE shouldnt accept invitation in that case. Naniwa or Huk never forfeited their matches. And Rain never should have tried to qualify if he wasn't going to play EVERY SINGLE GAME. Same with Grubby. They should be banned forever and never allowed in GSL for leaving. They should walk to the other side of the street if they see a GSL player or caster, head bowed in shame. If Huk forfits a match because he is going to his own wedding, banned for life. You play every single game, that is how passion works. Rain didn't choose to go to MLG, KeSPA forced him. In the situation with it was unfortunate but it is understandable that he couldn't change his flight. And you are vastly exaggerating in your posts, it's really annoying.
Its called sarcasm and I am mocking people who are climbing up to their ivory tower and calling down, claiming that Stephano disrespected GSL by planning to go and play in the the World Championship he qualified for months ago. I mean, if he canceled on IEM, that would be ok for some reason, but not on GSL.
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It's not like the two tournaments are at the same time... Stephano's U/D group is early Monday (the first one... and people complain about GOM?) and his IEM group isn't until Thursday. He could get on a plane Monday night in Korea and still have at least a whole day in Germany before his IEM games begin... Not too much sympathy from me, sorry, and the fact that this keeps happening should be embarrassing to the foreign community. Whether you like Huk or not, at least he stuck it out...
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On March 01 2013 04:13 bduddy wrote:
It's not like the two tournaments are at the same time... Stephano's U/D group is early Monday (the first one... and people complain about GOM?) and his IEM group isn't until Thursday. He could get on a plane Monday night in Korea and still have at least a whole day in Germany before his IEM games begin... Not too much sympathy from me, sorry, and the fact that this keeps happening should be embarrassing to the foreign community. Whether you like Huk or not, at least he stuck it out...
this is the main reason i'm slightly annoyed at stephano; if it did clash, then cool, but not like this i guess
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On March 01 2013 04:10 Eury wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 04:07 Alryk wrote:Meh. He'll still be in code A at least. On March 01 2013 04:07 Eury wrote:On March 01 2013 03:59 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:54 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On March 01 2013 03:32 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this. They should ban Rain too, and Grubby for skipping out on their matches for other events. Its disgrace that these players don't just drop everything when GSL sets their match on the same day as another event. They should play in their qualifying matches for GSL and forfit the events where they would win real money. We all know that qualifying for the GSL is more important than anything. HE shouldnt accept invitation in that case. Naniwa or Huk never forfeited their matches. And Rain never should have tried to qualify if he wasn't going to play EVERY SINGLE GAME. Same with Grubby. They should be banned forever and never allowed in GSL for leaving. They should walk to the other side of the street if they see a GSL player or caster, head bowed in shame. If Huk forfits a match because he is going to his own wedding, banned for life. You play every single game, that is how passion works. So in your little world GOM has no responsibility when they straight out of the blue changes Grubby's play date by a month? Disregarding any plans and money Grubby has already invested in tournaments and plane tickets? I almost starting to look forward to KESPA taking everything over in HotS. Dude... it's called sarcasm... :O Unless you were trying to quote zerox I guess, but then why not just quote him? XD In this thread it is hard to tell.
Well if you see my name and I am freaking out about something, its sarcasm. Unlike a lot of people freaking out about a forfited qualifying match, I am a mature adult who understands that when you qualify for a World Championship, you go to the World Championship.
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On March 01 2013 04:10 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 04:05 Dingodile wrote:On March 01 2013 03:59 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:54 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On March 01 2013 03:32 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this. They should ban Rain too, and Grubby for skipping out on their matches for other events. Its disgrace that these players don't just drop everything when GSL sets their match on the same day as another event. They should play in their qualifying matches for GSL and forfit the events where they would win real money. We all know that qualifying for the GSL is more important than anything. HE shouldnt accept invitation in that case. Naniwa or Huk never forfeited their matches. And Rain never should have tried to qualify if he wasn't going to play EVERY SINGLE GAME. Same with Grubby. They should be banned forever and never allowed in GSL for leaving. They should walk to the other side of the street if they see a GSL player or caster, head bowed in shame. If Huk forfits a match because he is going to his own wedding, banned for life. You play every single game, that is how passion works. Looks like real-life doesnt exists :D Please tell me you are not serious about the wedding. Of course I'm not serious at all. I am mocking the people who are freaking out about Stephano forfiting a qualifying match for one event to go play in the World Championship for another event. If this were anythign else but GSL, no one would care. But for some reason, if the GSL set a match for the same date you were already planning to go to another event, you should cancel your plans and play in GSL.
The dates for World Champions are known for months... and we had many code a ro24 games in this and last week, but no Stephano has to play in the same week like WC.
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On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this.
Yeah too bad nobody else has ever forfeited their GSL matches. Oh wait, there have been other players that decided to forfeit! Let's see here. We have both Rains (SKT1/Fnatic) who decided to ditch out on GSL. Thorzain dropped out of his up and downs back in August. ForGG and Ganzi both dropped their code A matches back in July. Sheth dropped out of the GSL wildcard tourney back when he was in korea while on FXO. Also Boxer gave up on his code A match because of physical problems, but hey who cares about those, he just disrespected his peers by dropping out! And you stated later in a post how HuK and Naniwa never forfeited their matches, good thing Naniwa just decided to probe rush Nestea at Blizzard Cup in 2011. That's so much better than forfeiting a match, right?
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This is what happens when you have tournaments running all the time all over the world. Stephano isn't going to make a hard commitment to Korea because thats not where the money is. And I don't blame him or any player for doing what he is doing. Its not just the Up and Downs. Then he has Code S/A matches. It hamstrings you're travel greatly.
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On March 01 2013 04:13 bduddy wrote:
It's not like the two tournaments are at the same time... Stephano's U/D group is early Monday (the first one... and people complain about GOM?) and his IEM group isn't until Thursday. He could get on a plane Monday night in Korea and still have at least a whole day in Germany before his IEM games begin... Not too much sympathy from me, sorry, and the fact that this keeps happening should be embarrassing to the foreign community. Whether you like Huk or not, at least he stuck it out...
Are you insane? Do you know how many timezones that is? He would be so messed up on jetlag, he might as well play drunk. The standard for jetlag is a full day to adjust per timezone you cross. Huk tried the fly everywhere and do every event two years ago, it was terrible and is the reason players don't do it.
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On March 01 2013 04:15 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 04:13 bduddy wrote:
It's not like the two tournaments are at the same time... Stephano's U/D group is early Monday (the first one... and people complain about GOM?) and his IEM group isn't until Thursday. He could get on a plane Monday night in Korea and still have at least a whole day in Germany before his IEM games begin... Not too much sympathy from me, sorry, and the fact that this keeps happening should be embarrassing to the foreign community. Whether you like Huk or not, at least he stuck it out... this is the main reason i'm slightly annoyed at stephano; if it did clash, then cool, but not like this i guess
You do understand that most people don't book plane tickets and hotel just a week in advance, right?
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Really?? Come on...what a shame.Why Stephano,why?? I suppose he got scared..What is more important? GSL or IEM.. wtf.. come on, you gotta be kiding me
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On March 01 2013 04:15 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 04:10 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 04:05 Dingodile wrote:On March 01 2013 03:59 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:54 ZeRoX-45 wrote:On March 01 2013 03:32 Plansix wrote:On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this. They should ban Rain too, and Grubby for skipping out on their matches for other events. Its disgrace that these players don't just drop everything when GSL sets their match on the same day as another event. They should play in their qualifying matches for GSL and forfit the events where they would win real money. We all know that qualifying for the GSL is more important than anything. HE shouldnt accept invitation in that case. Naniwa or Huk never forfeited their matches. And Rain never should have tried to qualify if he wasn't going to play EVERY SINGLE GAME. Same with Grubby. They should be banned forever and never allowed in GSL for leaving. They should walk to the other side of the street if they see a GSL player or caster, head bowed in shame. If Huk forfits a match because he is going to his own wedding, banned for life. You play every single game, that is how passion works. Looks like real-life doesnt exists :D Please tell me you are not serious about the wedding. Of course I'm not serious at all. I am mocking the people who are freaking out about Stephano forfiting a qualifying match for one event to go play in the World Championship for another event. If this were anythign else but GSL, no one would care. But for some reason, if the GSL set a match for the same date you were already planning to go to another event, you should cancel your plans and play in GSL. The dates for World Champions are known for months... and we had many code a ro24 games in this and last week, but no Stephano has to play in the same week like WC.
That is the real problem, it is an embarrassment that the GSL cannot find a calendar or go to TL and click on the “Upcoming Events” tab. Artosis knows how to use TL, he could show them how and then they could avoid this problem in the future.
"Now see these dates? Don't set the matchs for the white guy on these dates and he can attend. Got it?"
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On March 01 2013 04:20 Dvriel wrote:
Really?? Come on...what a shame.Why Stephano,why?? I suppose he got scared..What is more important? GSL or IEM.. wtf.. come on, you gotta be kiding me
Money is the most important thing...
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On March 01 2013 03:00 nmetasch wrote:
I'd say don't expect him to stick around in the Korean team house too much longer either if hes not gunning for GSL.. I don't think he really cares about proleague either. In fact, I don't tihnk any of the team really cares about proleague..
I think JD cares about PL. He looked pretty mad after one of his recent losses. I also think HerO cares.
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