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followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
February 28 2013 18:54 GMT
#101
On March 01 2013 03:32 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this.


They should ban Rain too, and Grubby for skipping out on their matches for other events. Its disgrace that these players don't just drop everything when GSL sets their match on the same day as another event. They should play in their qualifying matches for GSL and forfit the events where they would win real money. We all know that qualifying for the GSL is more important than anything.


HE shouldnt accept invitation in that case. Naniwa or Huk never forfeited their matches.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
February 28 2013 18:54 GMT
#102
Not surprising one bit, GOM please get them to sign that if they accept a seed they HAVE to stay in the league and can't forfeit for other events for at least 6months or something.
The curse is real
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 18:56:44
February 28 2013 18:56 GMT
#103
Money trumps big title chance apparently

Too bad

Chances are slim, but still, without participating in the GSL, he can never be the best.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 28 2013 18:56 GMT
#104
On March 01 2013 03:50 vividred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:41 CornMuscles wrote:
Stephano never really showed interest in the GSL. How is this a shock to anyone. Played as a fan service, lost, left. This is exactly what everyone should have known would happen.


How is it fan service if he didn't show any effort.

See this is very disgusting in esports (even in sports) where the player has a mindset to follow the money rather than being on top with glory etc. If all foreigners will be like this, I'm sure they'll forever be roflstoped by koreans.

Stephano should stay out of the GSL or even PL if he's just treating these tournaments as a joke. And I'm saying this because it's very disrespectful to GOM to give him a free seat in CODE S, get owned then leave.


Yeah, because know that everyone in professional sports is in it for the "glory" and doesn't care about money. The same with Koreans. They don't play for the money, ever. Not even in BW. Its not like Nada ever had an appearance fee to even play at an event or all the Korean teams were not run by sponsors. No, they all played for the Glory, just like all the players in GSL right now.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
February 28 2013 18:56 GMT
#105
On March 01 2013 03:50 vividred wrote:
See this is very disgusting in esports (even in sports) where the player has a mindset to follow the money rather than being on top with glory etc.

99% of all football-player in europe are so as you describe. Pretty sure, in esports the same, maybe except korean sc2. But the tendency that the koreans do the same is there... look parting, squirtle, etc..
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
odaxium
Profile Joined October 2010
United States356 Posts
February 28 2013 18:56 GMT
#106
Eh, Stephano wasn't going to do anything in GSL anyway
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 28 2013 18:58 GMT
#107
haha the GOM-bashing is ridiculous
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 28 2013 18:59 GMT
#108
On March 01 2013 03:54 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:32 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this.


They should ban Rain too, and Grubby for skipping out on their matches for other events. Its disgrace that these players don't just drop everything when GSL sets their match on the same day as another event. They should play in their qualifying matches for GSL and forfit the events where they would win real money. We all know that qualifying for the GSL is more important than anything.


HE shouldnt accept invitation in that case. Naniwa or Huk never forfeited their matches.

And Rain never should have tried to qualify if he wasn't going to play EVERY SINGLE GAME. Same with Grubby. They should be banned forever and never allowed in GSL for leaving. They should walk to the other side of the street if they see a GSL player or caster, head bowed in shame. If Huk forfits a match because he is going to his own wedding, banned for life. You play every single game, that is how passion works.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 19:01:43
February 28 2013 19:00 GMT
#109
Takes the easier foreigner tournament instead of trying to prove the doubters wrong by performing well in the Up/Downs. Can't help but wonder if he even thinks he could advance so would rather try winning an easier tournament instead.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
Asterion
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany193 Posts
February 28 2013 19:00 GMT
#110
This might have been asked before, but is there any chance they will change the groups? Otherwise there is a group with 4 people and some with 6... They could just randomly pick a player from the 6player groups one would think.
amiGo_O
Profile Joined February 2012
Czech Republic959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 19:00:39
February 28 2013 19:00 GMT
#111
THIS VIDEO says how I feel about GSL vs. IEM

User was temp banned for this post.
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YuiHirasawa
Profile Joined August 2012
Japan220 Posts
February 28 2013 19:03 GMT
#112
I hope he will stay away from Korea from now on. From a spectator point of view I prefer to see Stephano doing well on the EU/NA scenes than meh in Korea. Korea was not a total failure though since he did pretty well in proleague in my opinion.
Fun things are fun
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
February 28 2013 19:03 GMT
#113
It's the nature of competing in the GSL. If you want to go to a lot of international events there will be scheduling conflicts.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
February 28 2013 19:03 GMT
#114
On March 01 2013 03:59 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:54 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:32 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this.


They should ban Rain too, and Grubby for skipping out on their matches for other events. Its disgrace that these players don't just drop everything when GSL sets their match on the same day as another event. They should play in their qualifying matches for GSL and forfit the events where they would win real money. We all know that qualifying for the GSL is more important than anything.


HE shouldnt accept invitation in that case. Naniwa or Huk never forfeited their matches.

And Rain never should have tried to qualify if he wasn't going to play EVERY SINGLE GAME. Same with Grubby. They should be banned forever and never allowed in GSL for leaving. They should walk to the other side of the street if they see a GSL player or caster, head bowed in shame. If Huk forfits a match because he is going to his own wedding, banned for life. You play every single game, that is how passion works.

Rain didn't choose to go to MLG, KeSPA forced him. In the situation with it was unfortunate but it is understandable that he couldn't change his flight. And you are vastly exaggerating in your posts, it's really annoying.
achew
Profile Joined February 2012
France86 Posts
February 28 2013 19:03 GMT
#115
Cash Rules Everything Around Me
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
February 28 2013 19:05 GMT
#116
On March 01 2013 03:59 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:54 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:32 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this.


They should ban Rain too, and Grubby for skipping out on their matches for other events. Its disgrace that these players don't just drop everything when GSL sets their match on the same day as another event. They should play in their qualifying matches for GSL and forfit the events where they would win real money. We all know that qualifying for the GSL is more important than anything.


HE shouldnt accept invitation in that case. Naniwa or Huk never forfeited their matches.

And Rain never should have tried to qualify if he wasn't going to play EVERY SINGLE GAME. Same with Grubby. They should be banned forever and never allowed in GSL for leaving. They should walk to the other side of the street if they see a GSL player or caster, head bowed in shame. If Huk forfits a match because he is going to his own wedding, banned for life. You play every single game, that is how passion works.

Looks like real-life doesnt exists :D
Please tell me you are not serious about the wedding.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
February 28 2013 19:06 GMT
#117
On March 01 2013 03:52 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:48 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:45 Aunvilgod wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:00 Jakkerr wrote:
On March 01 2013 02:56 SoOJuuu wrote:
foreigners get spots and give them up.
I bet this really frustrates korean gamers that are trying to make it.

Very disappointing in stephano.


Playing at IEM is way more interesting for Stephano than GSL.


But not for us fans. It is a much bigger accomplishment to get into Code S than place high at IEM where he won´t even necessarily meet the best koreans.


Lets see which is more important:

World championship with a prize pool of $100,000.00 that was announced months ago.

Qualifying match for the GSL. Prize pool: Might get taken to lunch by one of the casters because its fun.

I am not sure which one I would pick...

You realize that in GSL you always get money for a season? It's not as much as IEM, but it's more than just a meal lol


Oh I didnt know that, how much is that? In the hundreds of dollars or maybe thousands of dollars? I always thought top 32 get paid some
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
February 28 2013 19:07 GMT
#118
On March 01 2013 03:59 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:54 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:32 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this.


They should ban Rain too, and Grubby for skipping out on their matches for other events. Its disgrace that these players don't just drop everything when GSL sets their match on the same day as another event. They should play in their qualifying matches for GSL and forfit the events where they would win real money. We all know that qualifying for the GSL is more important than anything.


HE shouldnt accept invitation in that case. Naniwa or Huk never forfeited their matches.

And Rain never should have tried to qualify if he wasn't going to play EVERY SINGLE GAME. Same with Grubby. They should be banned forever and never allowed in GSL for leaving. They should walk to the other side of the street if they see a GSL player or caster, head bowed in shame. If Huk forfits a match because he is going to his own wedding, banned for life. You play every single game, that is how passion works.


So in your little world GOM has no responsibility when they straight out of the blue changes Grubby's play date by a month? Disregarding any plans and money Grubby has already invested in tournaments and plane tickets? I almost starting to look forward to KESPA taking everything over in HotS.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 19:09:36
February 28 2013 19:07 GMT
#119
Meh.

He'll still be in code A at least.

On March 01 2013 04:07 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:59 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:54 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:32 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this.


They should ban Rain too, and Grubby for skipping out on their matches for other events. Its disgrace that these players don't just drop everything when GSL sets their match on the same day as another event. They should play in their qualifying matches for GSL and forfit the events where they would win real money. We all know that qualifying for the GSL is more important than anything.


HE shouldnt accept invitation in that case. Naniwa or Huk never forfeited their matches.

And Rain never should have tried to qualify if he wasn't going to play EVERY SINGLE GAME. Same with Grubby. They should be banned forever and never allowed in GSL for leaving. They should walk to the other side of the street if they see a GSL player or caster, head bowed in shame. If Huk forfits a match because he is going to his own wedding, banned for life. You play every single game, that is how passion works.


So in your little world GOM has no responsibility when they straight out of the blue changes Grubby's play date by a month? Disregarding any plans and money Grubby has already invested in tournaments and plane tickets? I almost starting to look forward to KESPA taking everything over in HotS.


Dude... it's called sarcasm... :O

Unless you were trying to quote zerox I guess, but then why not just quote him? XD
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GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
February 28 2013 19:07 GMT
#120
On March 01 2013 04:03 YuiHirasawa wrote:
I hope he will stay away from Korea from now on. From a spectator point of view I prefer to see Stephano doing well on the EU/NA scenes than meh in Korea. Korea was not a total failure though since he did pretty well in proleague in my opinion.


I think he is the only foreigner with winning record, 6-4 is pretty good,
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