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KillerDucky
United States498 Posts
On February 26 2013 20:37 Seeker wrote: Any new unit that you particularly like? The tempest. It was hard to win late game PvZ if luck wasn't with you but thanks to the tempest, late game PvZ is no longer an issue. And the pace of the game feels slower. PvZ will be slower? Oh god no! | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
Even slower than Broodlords turtle behind spines? I'm not sure, but i haven't watched much HotS yet. However the once in a while occuring soul trains etc. from Protosses somewhat increased the average speed. However i have no doubt that TvZ is gonna be the best again, after how good Taeja vs viOlet was. | ||
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ThePrince
Peru331 Posts
On February 26 2013 23:51 wklbishop wrote: First off, what do you mean by justification? You do not need to justify yourself if you win. You win because you actually won. You made your opponent GG, there's no justification to it other than you won. Maybe since your from France, it's a misunderstanding in connotations, but it sounds off. Secondly off you're wrong. He said he got lucky in his match specifically then said KT (his team and not HIS win like you said, but THEIR win) worked harder. That's 2 reasons given. Thirdly, Realistically, what other justification is there? Religion? I'm just better inherently? I got lucky? My opponent was bad? Which one would you rather hear? Finally, the reason I'm harsh at people who say snide comments like you about this isn't b/c I'm some fanboy. I just like the idea of hardwork. I'm not a fan of inherent talent, I'm always a personal believer of genius being "1% talent and 99% perspiration." I like how people emphasize hard work. Yes you are a fanboy. | ||
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stew_
Canada239 Posts
On February 26 2013 20:39 mongmong wrote: Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him Jaedong.... how far have you fallen  not as far as bisu | ||
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ThePrince
Peru331 Posts
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
On February 26 2013 22:19 Otolia wrote: Oh look yet another korean whose sole justification for his win is : " I work harder I deserve to win. " You prefer him giving an in-depth description of the relationship between dedication, talent and opportunity instead? We all like to think that we are responsible for our fortunes (as opposed to our misfortunes which are always everyone else's fault of course) and by thinking hard work is the primary difference the victory feels all the sweeter. "It was not because of talent, it was ME, my WORK".  | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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cheerful
78 Posts
What exactly are they focusing on ? Still weird that people keep thinking EG-TL could turn all that around and beat KT | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On February 27 2013 01:43 cheerful wrote: " I don't think EG-TL is really focusing on Proleague. " What exactly are they focusing on ? Still weird that people keep thinking EG-TL could turn all that around and beat KT Well, it is not like KT have been tearing it up lately. | ||
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malady
United States600 Posts
On February 26 2013 22:19 Otolia wrote: Oh look yet another korean whose sole justification for his win is : " I work harder I deserve to win. " lol um okay.. well its true isn't it? | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19297 Posts
The difference is Bisu hasn't even had the chance to fall. He's 1/1 this season. :'( | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On February 27 2013 00:13 EthanOz wrote: Now the question is, why did EGTL joined PL if they're not focused on winning it? The same reason they do anything - so people talk about them more and deliver publicity. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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forumtext
575 Posts
On February 27 2013 02:19 BisuDagger wrote: The difference is Bisu hasn't even had the chance to fall. He's 1/1 this season. :'( It's a shame that Bisu's micro has so little use in SC2, Deathball™ vs Deathball™ is just not for him. Hopefully he will come back strong in Hots, he deserve more than this. | ||
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
On February 27 2013 00:24 Otolia wrote: I agree with you. It is ridiculous to even think about justifying one's win but he did it. The quote above proves at. I wish players (particularly koreans) who stay away from the "I work harder, I deserve to win". That's a very negative way of thinking which only brings negative consequences like jealousy or envy when things don't go their way. Neither hard work nor talent matters. Choices and opportunities do however. And curiously that's the basis of SC2 : game decisions. PS : You seem smart enough, so stop thinking hard work is better than talent. Both of them are mindless. Hard work is a quality shared by many while talent is shared by few. To the first part, fair enough. To the part about hard work not being better than talent. I disagree with that sentiment strongly. Hard work is the thing that's in your hands whereas talent feels like it's luck-based. I respect people who are able to achieve something through their own efforts. And at the end of the day, it's better for me personally to believe in that, it's served me well academically and career-wise. I mean... ever read Naruto? LOLs. You're free to disagree, but at least understand that sentiment. EDIT: ... I don't really like KT.... LOLs... you know what you're right. I AM A TOTAL FANBOIIIII. But not of KT or Myunsik, but of guys like Rock Lee from Naruto. Guys like Shin from Eyeshield 21. And so on and so forth. It's just the sentiment in general that I'm a fan of. I love seeing talent-less idiots succeed and I get upset when people try to think it ain't no big thing and talent is so amazing. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
Yeah, this really sums it up. I imagine Jaedong and Stephano are practicing a ton with Taeja to help prepare him for RorO. GSL is definitely way more important to them. | ||
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edlover420
349 Posts
On February 27 2013 02:28 Alryk wrote: "I don't think EG-TL is really focusing on Proleague. I think the results are inevitable since we work harder." Yeah, this really sums it up. I imagine Jaedong and Stephano are practicing a ton with Taeja to help prepare him for RorO. GSL is definitely way more important to them. I disagree. Jaedong and Taeja are Korean and Proleague is way more important then GSL for 98,5% of Korean players due to television coverage, luxury, tradition and recognition Proleague players receive in Korea. I just think that EG-TL guys simply refuse to practice as much as kespa teams do (12-14 hours daily(Stephano has said himself more then once that he plays about 4 hours a day)) and there is the reason why they will get trashed more and more in future rounds. | ||
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
On February 27 2013 00:24 Otolia wrote: I wish players (particularly koreans) who stay away from the "I work harder, I deserve to win". That's a very negative way of thinking which only brings negative consequences like jealousy or envy when things don't go their way. Neither hard work nor talent matters. Choices and opportunities do however. And curiously that's the basis of SC2 : game decisions. I don't even...what? oO Saying you won, because you worked hard is now a "very negative way of thinking"? This definitely has to be the dumbest thing I've read in a while. What do you want him to say? "I'm a motherfucking badass motherfucker and I just won this game even though I don't have any talent and don't work hard." Yeah, that sounds about right. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On February 27 2013 02:34 edlover420 wrote: I disagree. Jaedong and Taeja are Korean and Proleague is way more important then GSL for 98,5% of Korean players due to television coverage, luxury, tradition and recognition Proleague players receive in Korea. I just think that EG-TL guys simply refuse to practice as much as kespa teams do (12-14 hours daily(Stephano has said himself more then once that he plays about 4 hours a day)) and there is the reason why they will get trashed more and more in future rounds. I don't think so. Proleague was more important in BW, but GSL right now is where the money (#1), the fame worldwide, and even the fans are at. You could even say luxury - a lot of players say the gom studios are more comfortable. Stephano said that in 2011, after he won IPL3. I highly doubt he practices four hours a day now. And just as evidence, if Taeja wanted to win PL more than GSL, he'd have played in every round of proleague, especially the allkill format, and let his GSL results to the wayside. The fact that he didn't do so is evidence of what he cares more about. RorO as a kespa player is the same. He said that he did have to balance both, but that he was glad his team let him practice for GSL. SPL was certainly the most prestigious thing for BW, but just because they play SC2 now doesn't instantly mean that it's better than Gom. GOM has continually done more for the scene than almost any other group (except blizzard), and it shows. Edit: RorO's quote: I want to thank my team who was very considerate to me because I am in an individual league. Leads me to think that he was given significantly more than is or was normal to practice for an individual league than in the past. If SPL was so important, they probably would have forced him to play SPL maps in practice and only that. Not only that, the plethora of practice partners he had (Rain, CJ Hero, and the "protosses" on his team) imply that at the very least, the Samsung Khan protoss players were also given time to help RorO with his preparation. This never would have happened in the past (not to this degree, or with GOM). SPL is important, but the players would be silly not to recognize that a GSL championship will give a player more fame than doing well in SPL, or even winning. SC2 has grown up with a lot more individual competitions than BW did, (partially just because there are so many foreign events). | ||
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