I feel glad. I didn't want to disappoint the many people in the audience that were cheering so I did my best. I am so proud that I won.
From a rookie's perspective, wasn't it pressuring to face Jaedong?
Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him. I've always wanted to face him at least once in my lifetime so I feel good that I've won. I was also able to get revenge for losing against him during a qualifiers previously.
How did you prepare for today's game?
I prepared for a week. I watched Jaedong's VODs and decided to react properly to what he was doing.
If you had to evaluate today's game?
My micro was bad because I got too nervous. I think I won cause I got lucky (laughs).
KT Rolster snapped its five game losing streak.
We were on a five game losing streak but we were still ranked second so the team's atmosphere wasn't that bad. Head coach Lee also encouraged us a lot and everyone gathered their strengths together and practiced hard. We were confident for today's match. Mainly because we had always 4-0ed EG-TL whenever we met them.
You guys seem to be especially strong against EG-TL.
I don't think EG-TL is really focusing on Proleague. I think the results are inevitable since we work harder.
This season's goals?
I don't really have a personal goal. I just want to make sure I never show a disappointing performance to the people who cheer me on.
HotS will commence soon.
I haven't played it a lot but personally, I feel confident.
Any new unit that you particularly like?
The tempest. It was hard to win late game PvZ if luck wasn't with you but thanks to the tempest, late game PvZ is no longer an issue. And the pace of the game feels slower.
Anything else you would like to say?
I was able to win today but there will come a time where things slow down. When that time comes, I just hope that the people will continue to cheer me on and believe in me (laughs).
On February 26 2013 20:50 []Phase[] wrote: This probably has been asked and answered before but... What does proleague do when hots comes out? switch mid-tournament or not?
On February 26 2013 20:50 []Phase[] wrote: This probably has been asked and answered before but... What does proleague do when hots comes out? switch mid-tournament or not?
On February 26 2013 20:39 mongmong wrote: Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him
the blasphemy of this trash talk cannot stand! jaedong, slay this non believer... eventually... please... :'(
On February 26 2013 20:39 mongmong wrote: Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him
the blasphemy of this trash talk cannot stand! jaedong, slay this non believer... eventually... please... :'(
well it's true since Jaedong was the #1 zerg for such a long time and near-bonjwa status in SC1. I don't think he meant it in a bm way.
Man, Myungsik must have banged someone seconds after winning the game 'cause that hairstyle... is really disorganized. And he's so honest GL to you myungsik. May you win again soon.
On February 26 2013 20:39 mongmong wrote: Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him
Well he says the truth. But I can't stand how people seem to look down on Jaedong now. I just want him to destroy everyone in PL. Jaedong winning WCG was the first time I watched starcraft and the reason my interest shifted from wc3 to sc. I really hope he comes back .
Right now I'm more annoyed than disappointed in TL-EG. More specifically the eventual "bler bler bler first season in proleague bler bler bler high hopes and expectations for next time bler bler bler" same speech every foreigner has given about their bad performance for the last two years.
And at Jaedong. This is really only sort of the place because the interview mentions him. I wish he'd just retired instead of selling out to the foreign market while he could. He used to hold himself as wanting more than anything to be an example for younger generations of gamers. Is this what they're supposed to follow? The tyrant is dead.
I hope they buckle down and start practicing correctly and functioning as a team in preparation for their matches, rather than the seemingly group of individuals acting individually under the same banner. It's disheartening to watch.
I beleve in Jaedong! I really feel though that being with a foraign Team (even though EG IS by far my favorite Team ever) dosn´t do him well. I wish he stayed with team8 or joined any other Kespa team but i´m SURE even that can not stop him from rising to his old glory!
On February 26 2013 22:19 Otolia wrote: Oh look yet another korean whose sole justification for his win is : " I work harder I deserve to win. "
Well, it is a really good justification tbh and it beats the other, tacit version: "Look at me! I don't practice and I suck but I can do stupid promotion videos. Give me free money and sponsorship plz!"
Haha, Myungsik dishing out the hard truth, it probably won't change much but it's at least somewhat satisfactory that they continue to get teased about their awful performance and someone twists the knife once in a while.
On February 26 2013 22:19 Otolia wrote: Oh look yet another korean whose sole justification for his win is : " I work harder I deserve to win. "
First off, what do you mean by justification? You do not need to justify yourself if you win. You win because you actually won. You made your opponent GG, there's no justification to it other than you won. Maybe since your from France, it's a misunderstanding in connotations, but it sounds off.
Secondly off you're wrong. He said he got lucky in his match specifically then said KT (his team and not HIS win like you said, but THEIR win) worked harder. That's 2 reasons given.
Thirdly, Realistically, what other justification is there? Religion? I'm just better inherently? I got lucky? My opponent was bad? Which one would you rather hear?
Finally, the reason I'm harsh at people who say snide comments like you about this isn't b/c I'm some fanboy. I just like the idea of hardwork. I'm not a fan of inherent talent, I'm always a personal believer of genius being "1% talent and 99% perspiration." I like how people emphasize hard work.
On February 26 2013 22:19 Otolia wrote: Oh look yet another korean whose sole justification for his win is : " I work harder I deserve to win. "
First off, what do you mean by justification? You do not need to justify yourself if you win. You win because you actually won. You made your opponent GG, there's no justification to it other than you won. Maybe since your from France, it's a misunderstanding in connotations, but it sounds off.
Secondly off you're wrong. He said he got lucky in his match specifically then said KT (his team and not HIS win like you said, but THEIR win) worked harder. That's 2 reasons given.
Thirdly, Realistically, what other justification is there? Religion? I'm just better inherently? I got lucky? My opponent was bad? Which one would you rather hear?
Finally, the reason I'm harsh at people who say snide comments like you about this isn't b/c I'm some fanboy. I just like the idea of hardwork. I'm not a fan of inherent talent, I'm always a personal believer of genius being "1% talent and 99% perspiration." I like how people emphasize hard work.
I think the results are inevitable since we work harder.
I agree with you. It is ridiculous to even think about justifying one's win but he did it. The quote above proves at.
I wish players (particularly koreans) who stay away from the "I work harder, I deserve to win". That's a very negative way of thinking which only brings negative consequences like jealousy or envy when things don't go their way. Neither hard work nor talent matters. Choices and opportunities do however. And curiously that's the basis of SC2 : game decisions.
PS : You seem smart enough, so stop thinking hard work is better than talent. Both of them are mindless. Hard work is a quality shared by many while talent is shared by few.
On February 27 2013 00:13 EthanOz wrote: Now the question is, why did EGTL joined PL if they're not focused on winning it?
Exposure and stage time for everyone. Think they got both, with Stephano being a popular term to be searched for in the internet after his first appearance. I am glad that EGTL doesn't commit to PL full time, I was worried I wouldn't see them somewhere else.
On February 26 2013 22:19 Otolia wrote: Oh look yet another korean whose sole justification for his win is : " I work harder I deserve to win. "
First off, what do you mean by justification? You do not need to justify yourself if you win. You win because you actually won. You made your opponent GG, there's no justification to it other than you won. Maybe since your from France, it's a misunderstanding in connotations, but it sounds off.
Secondly off you're wrong. He said he got lucky in his match specifically then said KT (his team and not HIS win like you said, but THEIR win) worked harder. That's 2 reasons given.
Thirdly, Realistically, what other justification is there? Religion? I'm just better inherently? I got lucky? My opponent was bad? Which one would you rather hear?
Finally, the reason I'm harsh at people who say snide comments like you about this isn't b/c I'm some fanboy. I just like the idea of hardwork. I'm not a fan of inherent talent, I'm always a personal believer of genius being "1% talent and 99% perspiration." I like how people emphasize hard work.
I think the results are inevitable since we work harder.
I agree with you. It is ridiculous to even think about justifying one's win but he did it. The quote above proves at.
I wish players (particularly koreans) who stay away from the "I work harder, I deserve to win". That's a very negative way of thinking which only brings negative consequences like jealousy or envy when things don't go their way. Neither hard work nor talent matters. Choices and opportunities do however. And curiously that's the basis of SC2 : game decisions.
PS : You seem smart enough, so stop thinking hard work is better than talent. Both of them are mindless. Hard work is a quality shared by many while talent is shared by few.
I think its a fine way of thinking and most people who are remembered in their respective pursuits have this (or similar) mentality. You can have this mentality of hard work being all that is needed to get to your goal without being jealous at your first few/many failures. You can, you know, keep going.
On February 26 2013 20:37 Seeker wrote: Any new unit that you particularly like?
The tempest. It was hard to win late game PvZ if luck wasn't with you but thanks to the tempest, late game PvZ is no longer an issue. And the pace of the game feels slower.
On February 26 2013 20:37 Seeker wrote: Any new unit that you particularly like?
The tempest. It was hard to win late game PvZ if luck wasn't with you but thanks to the tempest, late game PvZ is no longer an issue. And the pace of the game feels slower.
PvZ will be slower? Oh god no!
Even slower than Broodlords turtle behind spines? I'm not sure, but i haven't watched much HotS yet. However the once in a while occuring soul trains etc. from Protosses somewhat increased the average speed.
However i have no doubt that TvZ is gonna be the best again, after how good Taeja vs viOlet was.
On February 26 2013 22:19 Otolia wrote: Oh look yet another korean whose sole justification for his win is : " I work harder I deserve to win. "
First off, what do you mean by justification? You do not need to justify yourself if you win. You win because you actually won. You made your opponent GG, there's no justification to it other than you won. Maybe since your from France, it's a misunderstanding in connotations, but it sounds off.
Secondly off you're wrong. He said he got lucky in his match specifically then said KT (his team and not HIS win like you said, but THEIR win) worked harder. That's 2 reasons given.
Thirdly, Realistically, what other justification is there? Religion? I'm just better inherently? I got lucky? My opponent was bad? Which one would you rather hear?
Finally, the reason I'm harsh at people who say snide comments like you about this isn't b/c I'm some fanboy. I just like the idea of hardwork. I'm not a fan of inherent talent, I'm always a personal believer of genius being "1% talent and 99% perspiration." I like how people emphasize hard work.
On February 26 2013 20:39 mongmong wrote: Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him
On February 26 2013 22:19 Otolia wrote: Oh look yet another korean whose sole justification for his win is : " I work harder I deserve to win. "
You prefer him giving an in-depth description of the relationship between dedication, talent and opportunity instead? We all like to think that we are responsible for our fortunes (as opposed to our misfortunes which are always everyone else's fault of course) and by thinking hard work is the primary difference the victory feels all the sweeter. "It was not because of talent, it was ME, my WORK".
On February 26 2013 20:39 mongmong wrote: Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him
Jaedong.... how far have you fallen
not as far as bisu
The difference is Bisu hasn't even had the chance to fall. He's 1/1 this season. :'(
On February 26 2013 20:39 mongmong wrote: Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him
Jaedong.... how far have you fallen
not as far as bisu
The difference is Bisu hasn't even had the chance to fall. He's 1/1 this season. :'(
It's a shame that Bisu's micro has so little use in SC2, Deathball™ vs Deathball™ is just not for him. Hopefully he will come back strong in Hots, he deserve more than this.
On February 26 2013 22:19 Otolia wrote: Oh look yet another korean whose sole justification for his win is : " I work harder I deserve to win. "
First off, what do you mean by justification? You do not need to justify yourself if you win. You win because you actually won. You made your opponent GG, there's no justification to it other than you won. Maybe since your from France, it's a misunderstanding in connotations, but it sounds off.
Secondly off you're wrong. He said he got lucky in his match specifically then said KT (his team and not HIS win like you said, but THEIR win) worked harder. That's 2 reasons given.
Thirdly, Realistically, what other justification is there? Religion? I'm just better inherently? I got lucky? My opponent was bad? Which one would you rather hear?
Finally, the reason I'm harsh at people who say snide comments like you about this isn't b/c I'm some fanboy. I just like the idea of hardwork. I'm not a fan of inherent talent, I'm always a personal believer of genius being "1% talent and 99% perspiration." I like how people emphasize hard work.
I think the results are inevitable since we work harder.
I agree with you. It is ridiculous to even think about justifying one's win but he did it. The quote above proves at.
I wish players (particularly koreans) who stay away from the "I work harder, I deserve to win". That's a very negative way of thinking which only brings negative consequences like jealousy or envy when things don't go their way. Neither hard work nor talent matters. Choices and opportunities do however. And curiously that's the basis of SC2 : game decisions.
PS : You seem smart enough, so stop thinking hard work is better than talent. Both of them are mindless. Hard work is a quality shared by many while talent is shared by few.
To the first part, fair enough.
To the part about hard work not being better than talent. I disagree with that sentiment strongly. Hard work is the thing that's in your hands whereas talent feels like it's luck-based. I respect people who are able to achieve something through their own efforts. And at the end of the day, it's better for me personally to believe in that, it's served me well academically and career-wise.
I mean... ever read Naruto? LOLs. You're free to disagree, but at least understand that sentiment.
On February 26 2013 22:19 Otolia wrote: Oh look yet another korean whose sole justification for his win is : " I work harder I deserve to win. "
First off, what do you mean by justification? You do not need to justify yourself if you win. You win because you actually won. You made your opponent GG, there's no justification to it other than you won. Maybe since your from France, it's a misunderstanding in connotations, but it sounds off.
Secondly off you're wrong. He said he got lucky in his match specifically then said KT (his team and not HIS win like you said, but THEIR win) worked harder. That's 2 reasons given.
Thirdly, Realistically, what other justification is there? Religion? I'm just better inherently? I got lucky? My opponent was bad? Which one would you rather hear?
Finally, the reason I'm harsh at people who say snide comments like you about this isn't b/c I'm some fanboy. I just like the idea of hardwork. I'm not a fan of inherent talent, I'm always a personal believer of genius being "1% talent and 99% perspiration." I like how people emphasize hard work.
Yes you are a fanboy.
... I don't really like KT....
LOLs... you know what you're right. I AM A TOTAL FANBOIIIII.
But not of KT or Myunsik, but of guys like Rock Lee from Naruto. Guys like Shin from Eyeshield 21. And so on and so forth.
It's just the sentiment in general that I'm a fan of. I love seeing talent-less idiots succeed and I get upset when people try to think it ain't no big thing and talent is so amazing.
"I don't think EG-TL is really focusing on Proleague. I think the results are inevitable since we work harder."
Yeah, this really sums it up. I imagine Jaedong and Stephano are practicing a ton with Taeja to help prepare him for RorO. GSL is definitely way more important to them.
On February 27 2013 02:28 Alryk wrote: "I don't think EG-TL is really focusing on Proleague. I think the results are inevitable since we work harder."
Yeah, this really sums it up. I imagine Jaedong and Stephano are practicing a ton with Taeja to help prepare him for RorO. GSL is definitely way more important to them.
I disagree. Jaedong and Taeja are Korean and Proleague is way more important then GSL for 98,5% of Korean players due to television coverage, luxury, tradition and recognition Proleague players receive in Korea. I just think that EG-TL guys simply refuse to practice as much as kespa teams do (12-14 hours daily(Stephano has said himself more then once that he plays about 4 hours a day)) and there is the reason why they will get trashed more and more in future rounds.
On February 26 2013 22:19 Otolia wrote: Oh look yet another korean whose sole justification for his win is : " I work harder I deserve to win. "
First off, what do you mean by justification? You do not need to justify yourself if you win. You win because you actually won. You made your opponent GG, there's no justification to it other than you won. Maybe since your from France, it's a misunderstanding in connotations, but it sounds off.
Secondly off you're wrong. He said he got lucky in his match specifically then said KT (his team and not HIS win like you said, but THEIR win) worked harder. That's 2 reasons given.
Thirdly, Realistically, what other justification is there? Religion? I'm just better inherently? I got lucky? My opponent was bad? Which one would you rather hear?
Finally, the reason I'm harsh at people who say snide comments like you about this isn't b/c I'm some fanboy. I just like the idea of hardwork. I'm not a fan of inherent talent, I'm always a personal believer of genius being "1% talent and 99% perspiration." I like how people emphasize hard work.
I think the results are inevitable since we work harder.
I wish players (particularly koreans) who stay away from the "I work harder, I deserve to win". That's a very negative way of thinking which only brings negative consequences like jealousy or envy when things don't go their way. Neither hard work nor talent matters. Choices and opportunities do however. And curiously that's the basis of SC2 : game decisions.
I don't even...what? oO Saying you won, because you worked hard is now a "very negative way of thinking"? This definitely has to be the dumbest thing I've read in a while. What do you want him to say? "I'm a motherfucking badass motherfucker and I just won this game even though I don't have any talent and don't work hard." Yeah, that sounds about right.
On February 27 2013 02:28 Alryk wrote: "I don't think EG-TL is really focusing on Proleague. I think the results are inevitable since we work harder."
Yeah, this really sums it up. I imagine Jaedong and Stephano are practicing a ton with Taeja to help prepare him for RorO. GSL is definitely way more important to them.
I disagree. Jaedong and Taeja are Korean and Proleague is way more important then GSL for 98,5% of Korean players due to television coverage, luxury, tradition and recognition Proleague players receive in Korea. I just think that EG-TL guys simply refuse to practice as much as kespa teams do (12-14 hours daily(Stephano has said himself more then once that he plays about 4 hours a day)) and there is the reason why they will get trashed more and more in future rounds.
I don't think so. Proleague was more important in BW, but GSL right now is where the money (#1), the fame worldwide, and even the fans are at. You could even say luxury - a lot of players say the gom studios are more comfortable.
Stephano said that in 2011, after he won IPL3. I highly doubt he practices four hours a day now.
And just as evidence, if Taeja wanted to win PL more than GSL, he'd have played in every round of proleague, especially the allkill format, and let his GSL results to the wayside. The fact that he didn't do so is evidence of what he cares more about.
RorO as a kespa player is the same. He said that he did have to balance both, but that he was glad his team let him practice for GSL. SPL was certainly the most prestigious thing for BW, but just because they play SC2 now doesn't instantly mean that it's better than Gom. GOM has continually done more for the scene than almost any other group (except blizzard), and it shows.
Edit: RorO's quote:
I want to thank my team who was very considerate to me because I am in an individual league.
Leads me to think that he was given significantly more than is or was normal to practice for an individual league than in the past. If SPL was so important, they probably would have forced him to play SPL maps in practice and only that. Not only that, the plethora of practice partners he had (Rain, CJ Hero, and the "protosses" on his team) imply that at the very least, the Samsung Khan protoss players were also given time to help RorO with his preparation. This never would have happened in the past (not to this degree, or with GOM). SPL is important, but the players would be silly not to recognize that a GSL championship will give a player more fame than doing well in SPL, or even winning. SC2 has grown up with a lot more individual competitions than BW did, (partially just because there are so many foreign events).
On February 27 2013 02:28 Alryk wrote: "I don't think EG-TL is really focusing on Proleague. I think the results are inevitable since we work harder."
Yeah, this really sums it up. I imagine Jaedong and Stephano are practicing a ton with Taeja to help prepare him for RorO. GSL is definitely way more important to them.
I disagree. Jaedong and Taeja are Korean and Proleague is way more important then GSL for 98,5% of Korean players due to television coverage, luxury, tradition and recognition Proleague players receive in Korea. I just think that EG-TL guys simply refuse to practice as much as kespa teams do (12-14 hours daily(Stephano has said himself more then once that he plays about 4 hours a day)) and there is the reason why they will get trashed more and more in future rounds.
I don't think so. Proleague was more important in BW, but GSL right now is where the money (#1), the fame worldwide, and even the fans are at. You could even say luxury - a lot of players say the gom studios are more comfortable.
Stephano said that in 2011, after he won IPL3. I highly doubt he practices four hours a day now.
And just as evidence, if Taeja wanted to win PL more than GSL, he'd have played in every round of proleague, especially the allkill format, and let his GSL results to the wayside. The fact that he didn't do so is evidence of what he cares more about.
RorO as a kespa player is the same. He said that he did have to balance both, but that he was glad his team let him practice for GSL. SPL was certainly the most prestigious thing for BW, but just because they play SC2 now doesn't instantly mean that it's better than Gom. GOM has continually done more for the scene than almost any other group (except blizzard), and it shows.
You are looking on this from the foreigner perspective. Go on holidays to Korea. You will see that GSL is online streamed event with viewer base of mostly foreigner fans. Than turn on the TV and there is a big chance that you will see televised PL matches or interviews or whatever. Also you will see that a player who appeared like 3 times in a PL will be more recognized by Koreans than an avg lower skilled code S player. And Korean players care only about Korean fans, they go abroad only to ''steal'' the money.
It's easy to get upset about Jaedong's current performance, but if you know anything about JD, you should know how extremely professional, dedicated, and hardworking he is that made him such a stone cold killer in BW. A guy with determination like that won't stay down forever. JD isn't the type of person to half-ass it in anything.
I guess EG-TL is focusing on making a comeback when hots hits. It would make sense considering how everyone is playing frequently, especially thorzain and idra.
On February 26 2013 20:39 mongmong wrote: Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him
Jaedong.... how far have you fallen
not as far as bisu
I bet Bisu would score similar to JD if he gets to play though
On February 27 2013 03:06 Tachion wrote: Myungsik is going to die
It's easy to get upset about Jaedong's current performance, but if you know anything about JD, you should know how extremely professional, dedicated, and hardworking he is that made him such a stone cold killer in BW. A guy with determination like that won't stay down forever. JD isn't the type of person to half-ass it in anything.
Be patient. He'll be back.
I know it's still early and whatnot, but he has been beasting it up in Hots when he streams, I definitely have faith in the dude
On February 26 2013 20:37 Seeker wrote: Any new unit that you particularly like?
The tempest. It was hard to win late game PvZ if luck wasn't with you but thanks to the tempest, late game PvZ is no longer an issue. And the pace of the game feels slower.
PvZ will be slower? Oh god no!
Even slower than Broodlords turtle behind spines? I'm not sure, but i haven't watched much HotS yet. However the once in a while occuring soul trains etc. from Protosses somewhat increased the average speed.
However i have no doubt that TvZ is gonna be the best again, after how good Taeja vs viOlet was.
I think he means slower in a good way, even though it may not sound that way at first. As in, it doesn't get to max versus max quite as quickly.
On February 26 2013 20:39 mongmong wrote: Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him
Jaedong.... how far have you fallen
not as far as bisu
The difference is Bisu hasn't even had the chance to fall. He's 1/1 this season. :'(
It's a shame that Bisu's micro has so little use in SC2, Deathball™ vs Deathball™ is just not for him. Hopefully he will come back strong in Hots, he deserve more than this.
Well MSL format tournament is back in Korean Brood War. He needs to return if Hots doesn't work out or he's not having fun. He would ruin the brood war scene. :!!!!!!
On February 26 2013 20:39 mongmong wrote: Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him
Jaedong.... how far have you fallen
not as far as bisu
The difference is Bisu hasn't even had the chance to fall. He's 1/1 this season. :'(
It's a shame that Bisu's micro has so little use in SC2, Deathball™ vs Deathball™ is just not for him. Hopefully he will come back strong in Hots, he deserve more than this.
Well MSL format tournament is back in Korean Brood War. He needs to return if Hots doesn't work out or he's not having fun. He would ruin the brood war scene. :!!!!!!
Yep, I wish all ex-BW players would return to the real man's game. Sea is much happier there.
On February 27 2013 02:28 Alryk wrote: "I don't think EG-TL is really focusing on Proleague. I think the results are inevitable since we work harder."
Yeah, this really sums it up. I imagine Jaedong and Stephano are practicing a ton with Taeja to help prepare him for RorO. GSL is definitely way more important to them.
I disagree. Jaedong and Taeja are Korean and Proleague is way more important then GSL for 98,5% of Korean players due to television coverage, luxury, tradition and recognition Proleague players receive in Korea. I just think that EG-TL guys simply refuse to practice as much as kespa teams do (12-14 hours daily(Stephano has said himself more then once that he plays about 4 hours a day)) and there is the reason why they will get trashed more and more in future rounds.
I don't think so. Proleague was more important in BW, but GSL right now is where the money (#1), the fame worldwide, and even the fans are at. You could even say luxury - a lot of players say the gom studios are more comfortable.
Stephano said that in 2011, after he won IPL3. I highly doubt he practices four hours a day now.
And just as evidence, if Taeja wanted to win PL more than GSL, he'd have played in every round of proleague, especially the allkill format, and let his GSL results to the wayside. The fact that he didn't do so is evidence of what he cares more about.
RorO as a kespa player is the same. He said that he did have to balance both, but that he was glad his team let him practice for GSL. SPL was certainly the most prestigious thing for BW, but just because they play SC2 now doesn't instantly mean that it's better than Gom. GOM has continually done more for the scene than almost any other group (except blizzard), and it shows.
You are looking on this from the foreigner perspective. Go on holidays to Korea. You will see that GSL is online streamed event with viewer base of mostly foreigner fans. Than turn on the TV and there is a big chance that you will see televised PL matches or interviews or whatever. Also you will see that a player who appeared like 3 times in a PL will be more recognized by Koreans than an avg lower skilled code S player. And Korean players care only about Korean fans, they go abroad only to ''steal'' the money.
Thats the good old time. Now, korean SC2 market is keep on shrinking. Just see the number of the audience at SPL for yourself. KR is dominated by LoL which is clearly the future. Hell even KESPA is thinking about LOL now. The major market of SC2 is international now. if the international interest fade, the korean SC2 scene will perish in a glance. That's how it works now.
On February 26 2013 22:19 Otolia wrote: Oh look yet another korean whose sole justification for his win is : " I work harder I deserve to win. "
First off, what do you mean by justification? You do not need to justify yourself if you win. You win because you actually won. You made your opponent GG, there's no justification to it other than you won. Maybe since your from France, it's a misunderstanding in connotations, but it sounds off.
Secondly off you're wrong. He said he got lucky in his match specifically then said KT (his team and not HIS win like you said, but THEIR win) worked harder. That's 2 reasons given.
Thirdly, Realistically, what other justification is there? Religion? I'm just better inherently? I got lucky? My opponent was bad? Which one would you rather hear?
Finally, the reason I'm harsh at people who say snide comments like you about this isn't b/c I'm some fanboy. I just like the idea of hardwork. I'm not a fan of inherent talent, I'm always a personal believer of genius being "1% talent and 99% perspiration." I like how people emphasize hard work.
Yes you are a fanboy.
... I don't really like KT....
LOLs... you know what you're right. I AM A TOTAL FANBOIIIII.
But not of KT or Myunsik, but of guys like Rock Lee from Naruto. Guys like Shin from Eyeshield 21. And so on and so forth.
It's just the sentiment in general that I'm a fan of. I love seeing talent-less idiots succeed and I get upset when people try to think it ain't no big thing and talent is so amazing.
On February 26 2013 20:39 mongmong wrote: Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him
Jaedong.... how far have you fallen
not as far as bisu
The difference is Bisu hasn't even had the chance to fall. He's 1/1 this season. :'(
It's a shame that Bisu's micro has so little use in SC2, Deathball™ vs Deathball™ is just not for him. Hopefully he will come back strong in Hots, he deserve more than this.
Well MSL format tournament is back in Korean Brood War. He needs to return if Hots doesn't work out or he's not having fun. He would ruin the brood war scene. :!!!!!!
in all honesty by.hero would probably just knock bisu out of ssl just like how he knocked bisu out of batoo osl :/
On February 26 2013 20:39 mongmong wrote: Compared to his BW days, Jaedong is not that good right now. He still has a reputation behind his name but I can handle him
Jaedong.... how far have you fallen
not as far as bisu
The difference is Bisu hasn't even had the chance to fall. He's 1/1 this season. :'(
It's a shame that Bisu's micro has so little use in SC2, Deathball™ vs Deathball™ is just not for him. Hopefully he will come back strong in Hots, he deserve more than this.
Well MSL format tournament is back in Korean Brood War. He needs to return if Hots doesn't work out or he's not having fun. He would ruin the brood war scene. :!!!!!!
in all honesty by.hero would probably just knock bisu out of ssl just like how he knocked bisu out of batoo osl :/
edit: added quote for context
Bisu hasn't lost to a single Hydra Bust in WOL. Maybe he's immune!
A huge reason why BW still reigns over SC2 in Korea is because of the mechanics requirement. It seems much more impressive to "them" rather than specific decision-making that SC2 requires. Furthermore, it is much more visually noticeable when players do something extraordinary in BW, and the viewers understand how difficult it is to pull such tasks off.
The way I see it, SC2 is like American baseball, while BW is more like Japanese/Asian baseball. SC2 is flashy with "terrible, terrible damage" (homerun), while BW is more about the continuous "smaller" action sequences throughout the game (small ball). Americans/foreigners like all of the explosive stuff. Koreans find delight in overcoming their opponents in pure mechanics even if other aspects of their game are not as good. Of course, this is not helped by the fact of how quickly players can max out. It is actually considered somewhat a feat in BW to max out, considering the difficulty of macroing as well as how there are smaller fights throughout the duration of the game. Floating resources is more forgiveable in BW, because players actually had more than 10 seconds to micro specific units.
While I know the two games are different, SC2 has a far lower mechanics requirement, and that is a big reason why KESPA players are not as dominant some thought they would be. Simply put, APM does not mean nearly as much in SC2 as it does in BW, even if you disregard hotkey spamming and whatnot.
Sadly, SC2's not going to change enough, so the Korean market is only going to continue to dwindle. BW needs to come back and save the Starcraft legacy in Korea. /onlyhalfjoking
One thing I find amusing (but not at all unexpected) is that the recent BW SSL's group selection had far more Korean physical presence than GSLs/etc held in Korea. Yes, just the group selection ceremony; no games.
I think if not EG-TL and especially EG doesn't take action their brand as a premier team will take a big hit. Their Korean based players can't make in pro league and their american based can't make it in international competitions. They'll have big stream numbers as the biggest achievement.
On February 27 2013 03:15 Aleteh wrote: I guess EG-TL is focusing on making a comeback when hots hits. It would make sense considering how everyone is playing frequently, especially thorzain and idra.
See that's the problem. There's been so many "wait until allkill format, that's when the team will shine!", "wait until Stephano gets here, then the team will be unstoppable!", or "wait until Jaedong gets used to SC2, then EGTL will be unstoppable!".
It's not that the people who originally said such things were foolish for saying so. Not really, at the present time those observations made sense. But there have been certain intangible factors that resulted in EGTL's predicament today. Now I don't even think HotS will save them. They need to address the root causes for their losses.
Other Proleague teams are also preparing for a HotS switch at the same time. If anything, evening out the playing field in terms of experience will be more beneficial to other teams than to EGTL.
On February 27 2013 05:48 GxbKoma wrote: I'm just wondering why they aren't focused on Proleague
Because they're in last place? Airforce Ace was always last, and you can sure bet they cared. They literally have nothing else to do, they haven't gone to foreign tournaments in a quite some time now (which will change soon). They participated in GSL just as much (or litte) as the other teams. I can assure you no one on EGTL finds it rewarding to show up and get demolished every match.
Having said that, why are they losing? I don't know.. if you were to ask me who has the bset lineup, I would say EGTL. Whatever reason they're not pulling through I couldn't tell you, but I still firmly believe it's not because they "don't care".
Haha, the only Proleague interview thread this season that got more responses than this was Thorzain, after he became the first foreigner to win a game in forever. Clearly MyuNgSiK knows how to get noticed by the foreign audience.
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