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Priest214
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan30 Posts
February 13 2013 00:33 GMT
#801
If he doesn't even have a repentant attitude to his cheating, a lifetime ban WOULD be good.
Starcraft is not a game, it is not a hobby, it is a way of life.
kuehl
Profile Joined February 2013
Austria2 Posts
February 13 2013 01:58 GMT
#802
On February 13 2013 09:33 Priest214 wrote:
If he doesn't even have a repentant attitude to his cheating, a lifetime ban WOULD be good.


I think that's too harsh. in the end it doesn't matter if he has a repentant attitude. It's more important that a lot of people agree that he has only cheated recently - that's what should be a benefit for him.

It would be nice to hear something from him again.
Maybe he should state what he plans on doing/what should happen according to him?
Develop a passion for learning and you will never cease to grow.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 02:03:33
February 13 2013 02:03 GMT
#803
On February 13 2013 10:58 kuehl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 09:33 Priest214 wrote:
If he doesn't even have a repentant attitude to his cheating, a lifetime ban WOULD be good.


I think that's too harsh. in the end it doesn't matter if he has a repentant attitude. It's more important that a lot of people agree that he has only cheated recently - that's what should be a benefit for him.

It would be nice to hear something from him again.
Maybe he should state what he plans on doing/what should happen according to him?


i don't think the circumstances of it matter that much, and in this case i think the circumstances are pretty fucked up. if he hacked in a custom vs an ai, then ok. if he hacked on ladder vs other people to earn money from it, he's just a fucking scumbag. drop him in the garbage can, move on and let someone else who isn't a piece of shit take his place.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
February 13 2013 02:04 GMT
#804
On February 13 2013 11:03 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 10:58 kuehl wrote:
On February 13 2013 09:33 Priest214 wrote:
If he doesn't even have a repentant attitude to his cheating, a lifetime ban WOULD be good.


I think that's too harsh. in the end it doesn't matter if he has a repentant attitude. It's more important that a lot of people agree that he has only cheated recently - that's what should be a benefit for him.

It would be nice to hear something from him again.
Maybe he should state what he plans on doing/what should happen according to him?


i don't think the circumstances of it matter that much, and in this case i think the circumstances are pretty fucked up. if he hacked in a custom vs an ai, then ok. if he hacked on ladder vs other people to earn money from it, he's just a fucking scumbag. drop him in the garbage can, move on and let someone else who isn't a piece of shit take his place.


couldn't agree more.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
February 13 2013 09:17 GMT
#805
I don't think he should be banned for life. Everyone deserves a second chance IMO and the fact that he will have the word "hacker" attached to his name is a really hard punishment in itself. He didn't hack in any tournament AFAIK so I don't find it that big of a deal either and like someone said earlier in this thread that if we hand out the hardest possible punishment for stuff like this, what are we going to do with players who are violating even harder against the rules?

Also, while I agree with that his attitude is quite ridicolous, I don't think he should be punished any harder for it. Even if he wouldn't care he could simply act in a way that everyone wanted him to i.e. be super apologitic. Right now he is at least being honest about what he thinks.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2142 Posts
February 13 2013 09:21 GMT
#806
Scary stuff
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
February 13 2013 09:51 GMT
#807
sigh ... terrible terrible damage ...

however, I don't have any respect in any aspect for hackers
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Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 10:41:34
February 13 2013 10:35 GMT
#808
How old is this guy?

E: Definitely old enough to know better and make a reasoned decision.
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
February 14 2013 08:25 GMT
#809
On February 13 2013 19:35 Brett wrote:
How old is this guy?

E: Definitely old enough to know better and make a reasoned decision.


Seems like he has not the balls to do the correct decision
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crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 08:38:29
February 14 2013 08:35 GMT
#810
On February 13 2013 11:03 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 10:58 kuehl wrote:
On February 13 2013 09:33 Priest214 wrote:
If he doesn't even have a repentant attitude to his cheating, a lifetime ban WOULD be good.


I think that's too harsh. in the end it doesn't matter if he has a repentant attitude. It's more important that a lot of people agree that he has only cheated recently - that's what should be a benefit for him.

It would be nice to hear something from him again.
Maybe he should state what he plans on doing/what should happen according to him?


i don't think the circumstances of it matter that much, and in this case i think the circumstances are pretty fucked up. if he hacked in a custom vs an ai, then ok. if he hacked on ladder vs other people to earn money from it, he's just a fucking scumbag. drop him in the garbage can, move on and let someone else who isn't a piece of shit take his place.


Don't understand why people overreact to his case so much, we see hackers pop in your thread like 3-4 times a week. Put aside the fact he had 2nd place at WCS USA, I don't see why is case is different.

But yeah he got banned by Blizz (I think) and I don't think he's using TL so.. I guess that's it with him, people are just looking for a "Bouc émissaire" to blame when tbh it's just really easy to hack and there seems to be no response at all by the big guys (blizz) on the hundreds of hackers on the ladder -.-

edit: unless you are a known personality or a complete moron, it's really hard to detect hacks... but sc2 is so poorly coded it seems like they have no idea on how to prevent hacks e.e. Maybe they should hire one ~
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
February 14 2013 08:52 GMT
#811
How you know it is poorly coded? There are hacks for every esport game out there (or do you know a game where it is impossible to hack?), it is not about preventing hacks being available it is about detecting them.
Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
February 14 2013 08:55 GMT
#812
The information about your opponent's units IS being transmitted to your PC. As long as that remains the case, hacks will exist. All it takes is a program to interpret memory.
Everyone left over is a member of the OP race and you have to figure out which one of them is the least OP. - CosmicSpiral
ShotgunMike
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden241 Posts
February 14 2013 09:22 GMT
#813
So, he admitted to be a hacker..

Ban from TL, report to Blizzard (not that they will do anything but anyway..). Hopefully, he will not be able to play tournaments in the future. Let's move on to funnier things, no reason to spend time on scumbags.
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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
February 14 2013 09:24 GMT
#814
would people condemn him as much if he only had hacked in custom games, like Nexus Wars and shit
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
February 14 2013 09:59 GMT
#815
On February 14 2013 18:22 ShotgunMike wrote:
So, he admitted to be a hacker..

Ban from TL, report to Blizzard (not that they will do anything but anyway..). Hopefully, he will not be able to play tournaments in the future. Let's move on to funnier things, no reason to spend time on scumbags.


Blizzard already took action. Like, within a couple of days of the story breaking.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
February 14 2013 10:03 GMT
#816
On February 14 2013 18:59 SgtCoDFish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 18:22 ShotgunMike wrote:
So, he admitted to be a hacker..

Ban from TL, report to Blizzard (not that they will do anything but anyway..). Hopefully, he will not be able to play tournaments in the future. Let's move on to funnier things, no reason to spend time on scumbags.


Blizzard already took action. Like, within a couple of days of the story breaking.

Like, within the same day, less than 6 hours from the creation of this topic:
On February 09 2013 11:54 Cloaken wrote:
Thanks again to the OP for this information. We were able to take some solid action based off of these details.

Please always remember you can report hacks directly to hacks@blizzard.com.

Good luck out there, and always remember to "Play Nice, Play Fair."

You are probably answering to a guy who obviously just glanced through the OP, commented on it once and then left the topic for good anyway.
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 15:02:45
February 14 2013 15:02 GMT
#817
If blizzard actually "took action" like they said then why are 2 of his accounts still in top 16 gm? Or many of the confirmed maphackers they claimed to have dealt with in the maphacker topic? They need to put those guys into their own bronze division like they did with all the drophackers back then...
aka SethN
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 14 2013 15:05 GMT
#818
On February 14 2013 18:24 ROOTFayth wrote:
would people condemn him as much if he only had hacked in custom games, like Nexus Wars and shit

Is there an official ladder for Nexus Wars?
He hacked deliberately to grab the GM #1 spot, not to troll some silver leaguers in custom games, I don't get your point.
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel322 Posts
February 14 2013 15:26 GMT
#819
On February 14 2013 18:24 ROOTFayth wrote:
would people condemn him as much if he only had hacked in custom games, like Nexus Wars and shit

Then... how would anyone be able to trust him with ladder/teams/tournaments? Would you?
And why are you asking? :S
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 14 2013 16:00 GMT
#820
On February 15 2013 00:02 TylerThaCreator wrote:
If blizzard actually "took action" like they said then why are 2 of his accounts still in top 16 gm? Or many of the confirmed maphackers they claimed to have dealt with in the maphacker topic? They need to put those guys into their own bronze division like they did with all the drophackers back then...



Yeah I'm not really sure why ppl are saying Blizzard took action, the edrink accounts are still in GM.
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